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    Instead of getting the lyric, you could try that coil system that was shown at sea otter or one of those events that make a 36 into a coil...

    Otherwise I think you should tinker with the settings on the 36 more before giving up on it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    Instead of getting the lyric, you could try that coil system that was shown at sea otter or one of those events that make a 36 into a coil...

    Otherwise I think you should tinker with the settings on the 36 more before giving up on it


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    Will do. On a separate note this arrived. The size is a bit strange 216x64mm guess the extra 1mm will not be noticeable. Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread-img_1019.jpgClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik8yu View Post
    The size is a bit strange 216x64mm guess the extra 1mm will not be noticeable.
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    Hey there,
    Anybody tried the ccdb coil il in a rune yet?
    I'd like to give it a try but not sure if it will work with the the ks link?

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    I started with a linear spring coil. It was good. But as I progressed to doing bigger hits I had to up my spring rate to compensate for the little digress ice nature of the frame design. It's very minimal so I think it will work!

    As a result I went to a dvo jade though and haven't taken it off the bike since. Love coil!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtailoner View Post
    Hey there,
    Anybody tried the ccdb coil il in a rune yet?
    I'd like to give it a try but not sure if it will work with the the ks link?
    I'm running this shock on a Spitfire. Have had it on there about two months. No complaints, it rocks.

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    Hi guys, I was checking the mount hardware of the 2017 Rune.. it says 40.0 x 8.0 and 20.0 x 8.0. is this correct ? (2016 and previous V2 were 25.4x8mm according to the specs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    Hi guys, I was checking the mount hardware of the 2017 Rune.. it says 40.0 x 8.0 and 20.0 x 8.0. is this correct ? (2016 and previous V2 were 25.4x8mm according to the specs).

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    Yep, all the redesigned 2017 models have made this switch

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    Correct. Spitty, Rune, Phantom, and Prime are all m8x40mm and m8x20mm. Unfortunately, sourcing the m8x20mm can be tricky. It's not a common size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtailoner View Post
    Hey there,
    Anybody tried the ccdb coil il in a rune yet?
    I'd like to give it a try but not sure if it will work with the the ks link?
    If you're aggressive and want to run coil, you need something with bottom out resistance (Jade or RC2/RC4). Dunno if kinematics have been updated for 2017. If the frame got a bit more progressive, you'll be just fine with most coil shocks.

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    thanks !... yeap, freaking hard to get.. would I be able to reuse the one in the stock monarch on a DVO Jade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgutierod View Post
    thanks !... yeap, freaking hard to get.. would I be able to reuse the one in the stock monarch on a DVO Jade?
    No wrong ID. But I'm using fox sls spring on mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    No wrong ID. But I'm using fox sls spring on mine.


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    I believe luisgutierod is talking shock hardware, not springs.

    You can use the hardware from the stock Monarch, but you'll need to swap out DVO's white poly bushings for the "old" metal backed DU bushing.
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    Doh! Good call dirt. I was a little confused when we were talking air shock to coil spring.


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    Hey,

    Anyone with the new 2017 Rune (or maybe 2016 - but the kinematics changed a little bit i think) and experiences with the Fox Float X EVOL shock from MY2016 or MY2017?

    It seemed that there appeared some problems with the shock (volume too big?!?) which doesnt fit the Rune (same as the debon air shock). Banshee itself says they dont have tested this shock for the 2017 Rune.

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    I really have to get to posting pics of mine.

    Frame: 2016 Banshee Rune V2 Small, Orange and Blue
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    R.tire: Maxis Minion DHR 2.4 WT
    Wheelset: WTB ASYM i35 / ONYX Hubs / Sapim D-Light Spokes
    Crankset: Saint w/ Hope NW
    Guide & bash: MRP
    Chain: KMC 10spd superlight-something-or-other
    Cassette: XTR
    Derailleur: SRAM X0
    Shift Lever: SRAM X0
    Saddle: SDG
    Pedals: Time ATAC
    Handlebar: Atlas
    Stem: 50mm Hope AMFR
    Grips: ODI Troy Lee (soon to be Answer Stien)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjw View Post
    I really have to get to posting pics of mine.

    Frame: 2016 Banshee Rune V2 Small, Orange and Blue
    Rear Shock: CCDB Air CS
    Fork: RS Pike 160mm
    Headset: Cane Creek 40 (110 waiting in box to be pressed in)
    F.tire: Maxis Minion DHF 2.5 WT
    R.tire: Maxis Minion DHR 2.4 WT
    Wheelset: WTB ASYM i35 / ONYX Hubs / Sapim D-Light Spokes
    Crankset: Saint w/ Hope NW
    Guide & bash: MRP
    Chain: KMC 10spd superlight-something-or-other
    Cassette: XTR
    Derailleur: SRAM X0
    Shift Lever: SRAM X0
    Saddle: WTB Lazer V Ti
    Pedals: Time ATAC
    Handlebar: Atlas
    Stem: 50mm Hope AMFR
    Grips: ODI Troy Lee (soon to be Answer Stien)
    Brakes: Hope Tech E4 w 183mm Rotor
    Seatpost: Reverb (will swap for 9point8)
    Great build! Look forward to pictures.
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    My Rune

    As Promised.

    While it might look new, it's far from. The frame however has very little use thus far, and the wheels, stem, and saddle, are new. Everything else was used on my last bike, a Norco Range, for a couple of season.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjw View Post
    As Promised.

    While it might look new, it's far from. The frame however has very little use thus far, and the wheels, stem, and saddle, are new. Everything else was used on my last bike, a Norco Range, for a couple of season.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endless Trails View Post
    Sweet built! What chainstay protector is that?
    It's 3M Rubber Mastic tape, that I carefully cut just so. It it super pliable and wraps and fits to any shape surface that I've used it on (chainstays!). Much the same stuff (if not exactly the same) as "slappertape" but cheaper.

    I've also used it up and inside the upper chain guide to reduce the space the chain has to jump and it helps quiet things a little. In short, the stuff is super useful and everyone should have a roll in their tool box.

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    A little update on my 222mm shock on a 2014 v2 xl rune.

    I made a pair of offset bushings which gave me a total of 4,4mm difference.

    Now the frame sits with the longer shock, almost like it would with a 216mm one, but has more travel.

    I was expecting the seat tube to touch with the shock or to have problems with bottoming out, but it all seems fine.

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    Update

    I have sold the debonair, i tried several psi, on various rides and i just dont like it. Bought a new bos VIP r to match my front deville, it was on 50% discount so it was hard to resist. While i m waiting for it to arrive, i m using my old nomad s float ctd with one large spacer and it keeps surprising me how versatile it is.

    Also tried the bike with a friends ccdb air, it s simply amazing the control it gives on nasty trails, the rear wheel stays glued to the ground, and every bump sends you forward gaining more and more speed. I was really impressed. Thing is, its weight and its price, i m saving for some 650 wheels, for some time now, and after riding some buddy s bikes, i feel i ll gain more with new bigger wheels than a ccdb.

    I m taking bigger jumps and gaps, i ve ever done, this bike really gives a Boost confidence, but i m taking some time to adapt to such a long wheelbase on twisty trails, cause i ve ridden a nomad for so many years, everybody knows how short these were. Swapped the stem for a shorter one, installed a 40mm , and it improved a lot, for a relaxed body position and to flow on the trail

    Any tips appreciated

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    Ready for season 3 on my rune: Last week I took it completely apart, serviced the shock, cleaned and greased everything, now its time to braaaaaap.
    Oh and that brown thing bottom right is an actual bomb, just like the bike (This area was major battle-front in first world war, exactly 100 years ago and its super common to find them around, especially while digging. Will call the authorities soon to come and destroy them as there are more around the trail )
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    I'm looking at shock options for my rune. Need to get the rc4 serviced and it is expensive. Currently can get a pretty killer deal on a dvo jade, comes in a bit cheaper than a db coil il. Wondering what would play nicer with the rune, if anybody has much to say about their experience with either of these shocks?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedrizzle View Post
    I'm looking at shock options for my rune. Need to get the rc4 serviced and it is expensive. Currently can get a pretty killer deal on a dvo jade, comes in a bit cheaper than a db coil il. Wondering what would play nicer with the rune, if anybody has much to say about their experience with either of these shocks?


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    I started with a ccdb coil. It was great but I had to compensate at bottom out by adding a stiffer spring. The frame doesn't ramp up at the end like id wanted. Now I have a jade and it's been on for a year. Working flawlessly and I have yet to experience a harsh bottom out.

    Also it looks like I'll be using the jade for a while. Servicing it looks like cake


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    My 2016 Rune build finally completed.
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    Nice build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    I started with a ccdb coil. It was great but I had to compensate at bottom out by adding a stiffer spring. The frame doesn't ramp up at the end like id wanted. Now I have a jade and it's been on for a year. Working flawlessly and I have yet to experience a harsh bottom out.

    Also it looks like I'll be using the jade for a while. Servicing it looks like cake


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    Serviced mine in about 20minutes the other day. What % sag do you run and what are your compression/rebound settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmj View Post
    Serviced mine in about 20minutes the other day. What % sag do you run and what are your compression/rebound settings?
    Nice!

    I have a 525 lb spring which puts me at 25% ish shock sag. the bladder I have between 200-205 (talked to DVO and they said I should be good up to 210). Compression/rebound I'm basically at DVO's base setting with rebound being a click or two faster.

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    Guys, what spring rate are you running on Runes? I'm ~ 85kg (187lbs) all geared up and have 450 lb spring. I want to be sure of the correct spring rate before i pony up for TI spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoshy View Post
    Guys, what spring rate are you running on Runes? I'm ~ 85kg (187lbs) all geared up and have 450 lb spring. I want to be sure of the correct spring rate before i pony up for TI spring
    I'm 225 running 525 lb spring. I think you're in the ballpark


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    Quote Originally Posted by shoshy View Post
    Guys, what spring rate are you running on Runes? I'm ~ 85kg (187lbs) all geared up and have 450 lb spring. I want to be sure of the correct spring rate before i pony up for TI spring
    I'm around 80kg with kit, running 425 or 400, depending on what ride I'm after.

    450 looks about right for you. How does it feel? What sag are you running and at how many turns of pre load?

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    I'm about 185-190 riding weight and ride a second hand Ti-coil that the guy believed was a 400. I sit at about 30% sag with no preload but have it set to 25% with maybe few turns. If I was going to purchase a TI- coil new I would get a dual spring rate 400/450

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    Nice!

    I have a 525 lb spring which puts me at 25% ish shock sag. the bladder I have between 200-205 (talked to DVO and they said I should be good up to 210). Compression/rebound I'm basically at DVO's base setting with rebound being a click or two faster.

    What are you running?
    I've been running about 12 clicks of HSC and 3 clicks LSC, Rebound is about 21 from the fastest setting. In their set up they make their rebound suggestion starting from the slowest setting but im not sure how many clicks I am from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmj View Post
    I'm about 185-190 riding weight and ride a second hand Ti-coil that the guy believed was a 400. I sit at about 30% sag with no preload but have it set to 25% with maybe few turns. If I was going to purchase a TI- coil new I would get a dual spring rate 400/450
    Even with the jade bottom out resistance you don't find that enough?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    Even with the jade bottom out resistance you don't find that enough?


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    That bladder isn't actually intended for that but its nice that it does soften it when you bottom out. I do wish it was more progressive though which is why I think the dual spring rate would be nice. They are pricey though.

    I like the jade enough that I havn't even tried my ccdb air cs that I have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom King View Post
    I'm around 80kg with kit, running 425 or 400, depending on what ride I'm after.

    450 looks about right for you. How does it feel? What sag are you running and at how many turns of pre load?
    Didn't measure sag actually, went by feel. Online calculators put me between 380 and 410 so i oversprung it a bit. I was running air (front and rear) between 25% and 30%. Coils are the same i guess. Whenever i rode more sag, it felt wallowy. No preload, just tight enough so the spring does not rattle.

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

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    If you how it feels then that's awesome but summer lean puts me at 205 ish and I still think my 525 lb spring is enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    If you how it feels then that's awesome but summer lean puts me at 205 ish and I still think my 525 lb spring is enough.


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    Ran a 500lb spring for a bit but prefer the 450lb. Had the 450 on my rc4 and it was fine. For my the recommended 550lbs would be way too harsh.

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    Does anybody know where i can buy the born on the shore sticker? The one from the seat tube.
    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by drapeado View Post
    Does anybody know where i can buy the born on the shore sticker? The one from the seat tube.
    Thx
    I have to ask why?
    I thought those little add on stickers (That one, and the size sticker) were kind of cheap looking. I actually picked mine off just over the weekend and threw them in the garbage bin! I wouldn't put them back on if someone paid ME, let alone pay someone for them =P
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    I'm guessing he likes that decal, lol. I actually stripped my 2013 Prime Raw for the most part, but stripped around that decal. It's a reference to where the bike was conceived.
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    Yeah, i like the canadian flag or logo (whatever that is) there s a lot of spech, canyons and yts where i ride. I love my rune and i like it even more for being so diferent from the mainstream. But Ok, i got your message, guess it s not cool to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drapeado View Post
    Yeah, i like the canadian flag or logo (whatever that is) there s a lot of spech, canyons and yts where i ride. I love my rune and i like it even more for being so diferent from the mainstream. But Ok, i got your message, guess it s not cool to have it.
    Please dont interpret it that way. I am certainly not a guy who's going to tell anyone else what is cool/uncool. Perhaps it's me who's uncool!?

    But I thought the message funny as I JUST peeled mine off because I thought the detracted from the bike/frame/paint job. I guess I'm not one for slogans, or maybe not for stickers in general? I didn't like them.
    Had I seen your message prior to removing mine I'd have heated them up and remived them neatly to send to you.

    I just wanted to know your side - how you perceive things
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjw View Post
    Please dont interpret it that way. I am certainly not a guy who's going to tell anyone else what is cool/uncool. Perhaps it's me who's uncool!?

    But I thought the message funny as I JUST peeled mine off because I thought the detracted from the bike/frame/paint job. I guess I'm not one for slogans, or maybe not for stickers in general? I didn't like them.
    Had I seen your message prior to removing mine I'd have heated them up and remived them neatly to send to you.

    I just wanted to know your side - how you perceive things
    I didn t, and i didn t want you to react like that either. We re cool 😃
    As i said i like that logo, maybe cause i am an european, dunno. I also removed mine, it was way too old and weared out.

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    So I am buying a rune frame but I need to know at my size what size frame to get. I am exactly 6 foot with a 32in inseam. Would a large work or should i go XL?

    Also any tips one whether you like the bike in low or nuertral would help. I ride with 650b wheels and a will be putting a 2017 fox float 36 fit4 160mm on it.

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    Large. Try all 3 settings. Mines in steep to compensate for a 170mm fork

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    I'd go large like Ryan says. I on the low setting with a 50 mm stem and it feels primo! I am running quite a few spacers under the stem so be generous when you first cut your fork.

    I think I'll give my fork another 10 mm of travel (170) which should lower my stem height to a reasonable amount


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    so my next question is spitfire vs rune. i really cant decide. My trails are more oriented toward the spitfire but there is one place I ride which is my favorite that has really gnarly rocky downs.

    Currently riding a DB mission 27.5 but ti feel like I waste so much energy going uphill it climbs okay but not efficiently and i clearly sense wasted energy. How does the rune climb is the spitfire that much better in this category? Can the rune do okay on trail riding?

    Other thing is the rune comes with the cane creek vs the only spitfire i can find comes with the rock shox monarch plus rc3. I feel the better value is coming on the rune.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strife21 View Post
    So I am buying a rune frame but I need to know at my size what size frame to get. I am exactly 6 foot with a 32in inseam. Would a large work or should i go XL?

    Also any tips one whether you like the bike in low or nuertral would help. I ride with 650b wheels and a will be putting a 2017 fox float 36 fit4 160mm on it.
    my 2's:
    I'm also exactly 6 foot with a 31.5in inseam and was going with L size bikes since i began riding, 14 years ago. however, for the past 7 years I'm on a size M Wildcard ant it fits even better than the L size.
    i've just ordered a new Spit, size M. according to the geometry chart, it should be spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strife21 View Post
    so my next question is spitfire vs rune. i really cant decide. My trails are more oriented toward the spitfire but there is one place I ride which is my favorite that has really gnarly rocky downs.

    Currently riding a DB mission 27.5 but ti feel like I waste so much energy going uphill it climbs okay but not efficiently and i clearly sense wasted energy. How does the rune climb is the spitfire that much better in this category? Can the rune do okay on trail riding?

    Other thing is the rune comes with the cane creek vs the only spitfire i can find comes with the rock shox monarch plus rc3. I feel the better value is coming on the rune.

    What are your thoughts?
    For your riding I'd suggest the Spitfire. It's plenty able enough to cope with the gnar and heads down like it has way more than 140mm rear travel. It will fit your main riding better than the Rune.

    I own a Rune by the way and love it. Have also ridden a mates Spitty which was a blast. Would be happy with either.

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    I climb everything with my rune. 11-36 with a 32 nw chainring. Never feel overbiked cause my trails are very technical. And i have to climb ( a lot) to the fun part. If i had smoother singketracks to ride, i would choose the spitfire, lower BB for better cornering, lighter on climbs and if you put a 160 fork, it s a blast on way down.

    I would t sell my rune for a spitfire though.

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    so my next question is spitfire vs rune.
    What are your thoughts?
    Hey- I've had both with identical builds...160mm fox 36, wide carbon rims with minions, etc. I had the spitfire first for 2yrs? then swapped the parts over to the Rune frame. Ran them both in slack setting.

    The spitfire is pretty much the ultimate do-it-all bike IMO. Lower BB and slightly longer feeling cockpit made it comfortable for all-day pedally rides, and it absolutely slays corners. One of the best cornering bikes I've ever owned. I was equally happy doing alpine XC rides on it, or steep flowy DH trails.

    I went to a Rune frame since I ended up with an Evil Following as my other bike. The Spitfire and Following were basically equally awesome at the same stuff. Some new local DH trails had opened up, and I had a week in whistler, so going to the burlier Rune made sense to diversify my stable, so to speak.

    Going to the Rune, my initial thoughts were: Weight is about the same, and with a good shock the bike pedals excellent. I cleared all the same climbs and felt equally fresh hours in to longer rides. The only compromise was the higher BB and shorter cockpit of the Rune. These are an advantage for jumping and steep DH tech, but come at a small cost while climbing or riding flowy cornery stuff.

    I only really notice the extra travel on the Rune when things get super hectic. Majority of trail riding, the bikes felt equally plush.

    Overall, the differences were maybe more subtle than you might expect, which is really a compliment to how well the Rune works as a trail bike. If I could only have one ride, I'd lean towards the spitfire, slacked out with the best suspension. But if you spend a lot of time jumping or riding dbl-blk DH stuff, then lean towards the Rune.

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    Hey- I've had both with identical builds...160mm fox 36, wide carbon rims with minions, etc. I had the spitfire first for 2yrs? then swapped the parts over to the Rune frame. Ran them both in slack setting.

    The spitfire is pretty much the ultimate do-it-all bike IMO. Lower BB and slightly longer feeling cockpit made it comfortable for all-day pedally rides, and it absolutely slays corners. One of the best cornering bikes I've ever owned. I was equally happy doing alpine XC rides on it, or steep flowy DH trails.

    I went to a Rune frame since I ended up with an Evil Following as my other bike. The Spitfire and Following were basically equally awesome at the same stuff. Some new local DH trails had opened up, and I had a week in whistler, so going to the burlier Rune made sense to diversify my stable, so to speak.

    Going to the Rune, my initial thoughts were: Weight is about the same, and with a good shock the bike pedals excellent. I cleared all the same climbs and felt equally fresh hours in to longer rides. The only compromise was the higher BB and shorter cockpit of the Rune. These are an advantage for jumping and steep DH tech, but come at a small cost while climbing or riding flowy cornery stuff.

    I only really notice the extra travel on the Rune when things get super hectic. Majority of trail riding, the bikes felt equally plush.

    Overall, the differences were maybe more subtle than you might expect, which is really a compliment to how well the Rune works as a trail bike. If I could only have one ride, I'd lean towards the spitfire, slacked out with the best suspension. But if you spend a lot of time jumping or riding dbl-blk DH stuff, then lean towards the Rune.
    Thanks for posting this! I was thinking of a rune to replace my delirium but the spitfire ( as you described) has recently caught my attention. If you were riding Whistler all the time ( mostly trails like gargamel & hey bud and few days in the park) would you still lean towards the spitfire?

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    As soon as bikepark gets mentioned, spitfire shouldn't really be considered. Rune would definitely be better suited to the riding you have described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    As soon as bikepark gets mentioned, spitfire shouldn't really be considered. Rune would definitely be better suited to the riding you have described.
    Ha, the boss chimes in!

    Yeah, actually a week in whistler was one of the reasons I moved from the Spitty to the Rune.

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    Darkside was made for Whistler

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    Darkside was made for Whistler
    This statement is actually true. I designed it to be my ideal Whistler big bike.
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    Darkside was made for Whistler
    Overkill outside the park!

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    Depends on what you ride... the bikepark is tame compared to many DH tracks in the area, the local stuff gets rowdy. For trail riding around whistler I'd probably opt for the phantom to be honest, I had a blast testing it out there. If I had one bike for local riding, then rune would be it, but I wouldn't subject it to the bikepark regularly.
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    Hi all, I'm planning to order a Rune next week. Does anyone have feedback on how they are working with a monarch plus? I read a lot of people are running coil but I'm trying to keep any unnecessary weight off the build. I've been on an X2 shock for 2 years, so wondering if I should budget for one or if the monarch plus will fit the bill.

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    I think it depends on your intended purpose on the rune. Many are going coil because it's so bombproof but I ran an air shock on it for a while before switching to coil.


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    I'll be riding all mountain (not bike park) and mostly pedalling up, a lot of fire road climbs. Also doing some enduro racing. I'm coming off a bronson.

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    The Monarch Plus is a nice shock...however, if you've figured out how to dial in your X2, I think you'll be a bit disappointed with the Monarch.

    We currently have a sale on frames bundled with a RS Monarch and a headset...it's only +$110 to add a shock and headset! Test the Monarch out and use it as a spare if you need to upgrade.
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    What sort of weight are the coil builds coming out at? I can spec the frame with a coil through my dealer but it adds a full pound over the monarch plus

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    I think mine is coming in around 34 lbs BUT I have so much crap on it so I can ride backpackless I think it's an unfair number to judge the bike.


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    I'm at 31.5- 32 with a dvo jade, lyrik, carbon bars and wheels

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    OK thanks, if I could pull off a 32 lbs build in large with coil I'd be pretty happy. I've got carbon bars and hoops too, but also saint brakes.

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    Def doable! I also have a jade with the sls spring and the weight between that and the x2 was about half a pound.


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    Last question - I'm trying to decide what colour frame to get, do the raw frames look a bit dull out in the wild? They look great on the site but some of the real world photos of raw frames don't look the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creg View Post
    Last question - I'm trying to decide what colour frame to get, do the raw frames look a bit dull out in the wild? They look great on the site but some of the real world photos of raw frames don't look the best.
    A mate has a raw Rune, I was only thinking the other day how great it looked in the flesh.

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    I personally never think a bike looks wrong in either black or raw... go for it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    I personally never think a bike looks wrong in either black or raw... go for it!


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    my mate that I ride with all the time is getting black - can't be too matchy! I'm thinking yellow now, just been watching this over and over https://www.pinkbike.com/video/468969/

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    Am I right in thinking this years rune is exactly the same reach as the spitty? Im changing to a rune as I've cracked 2 spitfires.

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    Ive got a 2017 raw built up with X2, i think it looks f@#king fantastic. Ill post a shot tonight so you can take a look. The black looks equally as awesome, but my last frame was black soo...

    And yea the reach is 455 this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZacMD View Post
    Ive got a 2017 raw built up with X2, i think it looks f@#king fantastic. Ill post a shot tonight so you can take a look. The black looks equally as awesome, but my last frame was black soo...
    Would love to see a pic!

    I ordered the yellow with the monarch plus to start. I have an x2 available to me if I want to go that way, or I might see what shocks come out this season. Can't wait to do my build

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    Mine's raw too, i really like it. It has a "brushed" look, and it changes as you look at it from diferent angles

    It also "hides" all small rock hits etc

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    Unfortunately I imagine a lot of the companies are focusing on metric shocks.... UGH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Roberts12 View Post
    Am I right in thinking this years rune is exactly the same reach as the spitty? Im changing to a rune as I've cracked 2 spitfires.
    Where did the Spittys crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom King View Post
    Where did the Spittys crack?
    one across the downtube by the support gusset, and one actually on the weld of support gusset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Roberts12 View Post
    one across the downtube by the support gusset, and one actually on the weld of support gusset.
    no support gusset in 2017 models...
    will never crack over there again

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    My Rune cracked the seat tube at the upper link mount. I've seen others cracked at the same spot
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    Looking for refresh my Rune '13, paiting it and new stickers. I have a PDF with the "old" stickers but I was looking for the new ones, Has someone the new stickers in pdf or similar? Or any sites to buy it?

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    Nice huck!

    These guys do some fully custom decals for Banshee in the current design hasdesigns.pt

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    I've bought a 2015 Rune second-hand and love it so much I've bought the 2017 frame and am doing a complete fresh build. Yay!

    I've read a bit in this thread about coil options and the recommendation from @builttoride in 2015 was to go with a coil shock with bottom out control or that had position based damping.

    What are the options like in 2017? The DVO Jade is still around but is getting a bit long in the tooth. I can get a good preorder price on the 2018 Fox DHX2 but don't know if it will suit. And the cane creek db inline coil looks good for weight reasons.

    Help me out. I'm keen to try out a coil as the frame comes with the Monarch so I will have option to run either air or coil depending on the conditions.

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    I'm running a jade exclusively on the Rune. I love it. it's a DH beast with a coil. The bladder system isn't really bottom out resistance specific but I have yet to experience a harsh bottom out.

    I'm running a 2016 rune though so I don't know if the kinematics of the 2017 has changed. That being said, when I ran a straight linear coil like a CCDB CS, I found that I had to compensate a little with a stiffer spring.

    I think that's what you'll experience with the DHX2. Maybe others can chime in but the only shock I know that's around with a bottom out resistance is the X-fusion vector coil.

    If weight is not an issue, I don't care how far along air shocks have come (I had a X2 on it before), it'll never be the same as coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saintberry View Post
    I've bought a 2015 Rune second-hand and love it so much I've bought the 2017 frame and am doing a complete fresh build. Yay!

    I've read a bit in this thread about coil options and the recommendation from @builttoride in 2015 was to go with a coil shock with bottom out control or that had position based damping.

    What are the options like in 2017? The DVO Jade is still around but is getting a bit long in the tooth. I can get a good preorder price on the 2018 Fox DHX2 but don't know if it will suit. And the cane creek db inline coil looks good for weight reasons.

    Help me out. I'm keen to try out a coil as the frame comes with the Monarch so I will have option to run either air or coil depending on the conditions.
    Check out the MRP Raze. Their website says it's designed for DH Race/Gravity, but I put one on my '17 Prime and so far it's been incredible in both climbing and descending. It has lots of adjustability as is and MRP can tune it to your needs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcalabrese22 View Post
    Check out the MRP Raze. Their website says it's designed for DH Race/Gravity, but I put one on my '17 Prime and so far it's been incredible in both climbing and descending. It has lots of adjustability as is and MRP can tune it to your needs as well.
    Does the raze have bottom out resistance? Is that determined using shims or something?


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    MRP Raze = Elka Stage 5 (MRP bought the design or something)
    I had one of those Elkas on my v1 Rune and it was probably my all time favorite shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    MRP Raze = Elka Stage 5 (MRP bought the design or something)
    I had one of those Elkas on my v1 Rune and it was probably my all time favorite shock.
    Before going with the jade I tried to look into the raze a lot because Keith was rocking it but I still couldn't figure out if it had a ramp up or not. My biggest problem with the DB coil with my weight and riding style was the last 20% travel felt soft. I had support but it wasn't the big ramp up type I was hoping to feel in my legs as my main suspension (legs) was towards the end of the travel....

    If there is something other than adjustable valves, I may consider it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    Does the raze have bottom out resistance? Is that determined using shims or something?
    I believe it's via shim stack. The good thing about MRP is you can call them up, talk to them about your needs and they can probably customize it for you as they build and test them in house.

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    I studied the kinematics of the rune, and my wise-ass conclusion was that this bike needs botom out control.... I know couple guys that are so ****ing fast with coil shocks on linear leverage ratio all mountain bikes, including CC DB Coil on an Rune... in the end its about how you like your ride and how YOU adapt to your suspension and make the most out of it..

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    Im not understanding the new dt swiss axle thing? my hanger is really loose and I dont feel i should tighten further as its very stiff.

    Ideas?

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    So I ended up going with an elevensix. I got a good deal on it and they do a tune for the Rune. It also has a climb switch so I'm happy.

    Thanks for the advice. I hope it rips!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Roberts12 View Post
    Im not understanding the new dt swiss axle thing? my hanger is really loose and I dont feel i should tighten further as its very stiff.

    Ideas?
    The hanger is being loose is nothing to do with the axle. you need to tighten up the hanger retainer bolt on the drive side if your hanger is loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saintberry View Post
    So I ended up going with an elevensix. I got a good deal on it and they do a tune for the Rune. It also has a climb switch so I'm happy.

    Thanks for the advice. I hope it rips!
    First person I know with a 11-6 on the rune. Do give us your thoughts...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junersun View Post
    First person I know with a 11-6 on the rune. Do give us your thoughts...
    Will do. The frame is still about 3 weeks away but will post the build and impressions when I get on it.

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    I just finished my build:

    2017 X-large frame w/ natural finish

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    I am 6'2" and the frame feels perfect.

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