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    Does anyone have experience with a coil shock (thinking DHX RC4 or CCDB) on the Rune V2?
    And also with offset bushings (bb drop change and seat/ steering angle changes)?

    If anyone can point out to me how to search this thread for it, I'd be grateful too - haven't been able to figure out how to search for specific words in a thread on mtbr.com

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley Henigson View Post
    Hey Banshee Rune owners,

    I've got a 2015 Med Rune
    Isn't that a 2013 Rune? Based on the color and in the seat tube there is no hole for the dropper post cable?

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    New here guys, heres some pics of my freshly built Rune, Only a couple of ride in but so far I'm really enjoying it!, Although i am finding it a little harder on the climbs than my previous ride (Covert Carbon)




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    Quote Originally Posted by nealy578 View Post
    New here guys, heres some pics of my freshly built Rune, Only a couple of ride in but so far I'm really enjoying it!, Although i am finding it a little harder on the climbs than my previous ride (Covert Carbon)



    Nice ride.
    I've just finished mine,haven't even given it a test ride yet.
    I'll put photos on tomorrow .
    Did you go for 160 or 170mm fox 36s?

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    Asked this in the Canfield forum as well, but has anyone ridden the Rune V2 and the Canfield Balance that could make a comparison? On paper they seem like pretty similar bikes and both at least to me sort of try to blur the lines between an AM and DH bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesos View Post
    Nice ride.
    I've just finished mine,haven't even given it a test ride yet.
    I'll put photos on tomorrow .
    Did you go for 160 or 170mm fox 36s?
    I went for the 160mm 36's as they were from a previous build and were better geometry wise, however i may have gone for 170's had i known this was on the way!

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    My new ride

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    This is my final Build.... For the moment.
    Changed the cranks to the Hope crankset and got a sram X1.
    I love the Performance of this bike.
    Today i put renthal push-on Kevlar grips on it. So there is nothing i Can do better for the moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtailoner View Post
    This is my final Build.... For the moment.
    Changed the cranks to the Hope crankset and got a sram X1.
    I love the Performance of this bike.
    Today i put renthal push-on Kevlar grips on it. So there is nothing i Can do better for the moment.



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    Nice build...
    but you could do yourself, your balls and our eyes a favour and put that saddle into a normal trailbike position

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    So, the picture was taken After a day of dh-section-fun.
    Most rides the saddleposition is a nur More "trailbike Position"

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    Well... this is mine... taken on the 1st ride (about dec last year)... surely it change a bit

    Frame : banshee rune s size + fox float shock
    Handlebar : deity with odi tld grip
    groupset : deore xt
    chainring : wolftooth 32t (now replace with hope 30t) + one up 42cog
    fork : rockshox pike
    stem : da bomb
    rim : ztr flow
    hubs : hope
    tyre : schwalbe hans dampf (change to magic mary front)
    Dropper : rockshox
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    Hi all, all rune are so sexy here.

    Like most others facing the upgrade with 26 wheel, I am wondering to build with 27.5 fork but keep using the 26 wheel.
    Will the geometry be a mess? Will it make the BB too low?

    Any advice is more than welcomed

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcname View Post
    Hi all, all rune are so sexy here.

    Like most others facing the upgrade with 26 wheel, I am wondering to build with 27.5 fork but keep using the 26 wheel.
    Will the geometry be a mess? Will it make the BB too low?

    Any advice is more than welcomed
    I'm running a 26" wheel on a 27.5 fork. It feels and works great.

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    Just ordered the vorsprung corset air can for the fox float X on my rune v2. Does anyone know which volume spacer I should run? I'm 195lbs loaded.

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    Great to hear so lanceuppercut
    Hows your build? Mind to share the config?
    It'd better even better with bike porn
    Thx man

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcname View Post
    Great to hear so lanceuppercut
    Hows your build? Mind to share the config?
    It'd better even better with bike porn
    Thx man
    Some of my friends (abou 5 or 6) are running 27.5" forks with 26" wheels... the radius difference is only 10mm anyways, so you end up with a slightly slacker headangle compared to the same fork in 26" and more mur clearance... and easier resale... and you can Keep your 26" wheelset for now...

    so really no issues with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanceuppercut View Post
    I'm running a 26" wheel on a 27.5 fork. It feels and works great.
    Me too since December, works fine by me (probably due to the massive fork upgrade).
    Slowly building up a 650b wheelset just so I can hand down the current ones to the hardtail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssPav View Post
    Me too since December, works fine by me (probably due to the massive fork upgrade).
    Slowly building up a 650b wheelset just so I can hand down the current ones to the hardtail.
    Why would you go 650B?
    The Rune was designed for 26", 650B will raise the BB-height to an uncomfy level... makes no sense to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Why would you go 650B?
    The Rune was designed for 26", 650B will raise the BB-height to an uncomfy level... makes no sense to me...
    Oops, my bad.
    Thought I was in the Spitfire thread.
    I had not known that Runes are for 26" wheels.
    Interesting, as you see a lot built with 650b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssPav View Post
    Oops, my bad.
    Thought I was in the Spitfire thread.
    I had not known that Runes are for 26" wheels.
    Interesting, as you see a lot built with 650b.
    Just because lots of people think 650B is any different then 26" does not make it true
    Most people just go with the fashion instead of thinking what makes sense geometrywise...
    Same holds true for the Spitfire...

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    Of course it's different.
    Whether you think it's worth the change is up to the person riding it.
    If I'm unhappy with the change I will still have my old wheelset to fall back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssPav View Post
    Of course it's different.
    Whether you think it's worth the change is up to the person riding it.
    If I'm unhappy with the change I will still have my old wheelset to fall back on.
    Just saying - 14.3" BB height is just not fun to drive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Just saying - 14.3" BB height is just not fun to drive...
    I don't understand why you quote the BB height with the dropout chips on high.
    That's why the dropouts are adjustable.
    Just saying

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    If you use decent meaty tire, it is a little higher than stated on the homepage... and if you use a 650B Fork, 14.3mm in neutral is realistic... and slack setting is maybe not the best allround setting with a higher 650B fork if you like pedaling uphill...
    The stated values are with 545mm Fork, which is 26" 160mm...

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    Someone who likes pedalling uphill probably wouldn't spec meaty tires and a 170mm fork anyways.

    Horses for courses buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssPav View Post
    Someone who likes pedalling uphill probably wouldn't spec meaty tires and a 170mm fork anyways.

    Horses for courses buddy.
    A 650B 160mm fork is already 555mm Long, and the geometry chart is with 545mm fork for both wheel sizes... (its all there, you just got to read stuff) so there you go with the additional BB height...

    I have been riding mine with 26" wheels for 2.5 years now and I know what I like... and I have ridden one with 650B wheels, you feel the additional bb height...
    it is up to you if you want to blow some money into a wheelset that does not really make sense for the Rune...

    If you don`t believe me on the figures, measure your current BB-height with 26" wheels and the 650B fork... and then add .45" for the 650b wheels... that is what you will end up with

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    Luckily for me I'm not that hypersensitive.

    Anyways, it's a Spitfire, not a Rune.
    So for the OP, yes a 650b fork with 26" will work fine.
    A lot of people seem to be happy with their 650b wheels.
    Some people may get spooked by the extra BB height.

    Only person who can say if they're right for you is you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssPav View Post
    Luckily for me I'm not that hypersensitive.

    Anyways, it's a Spitfire, not a Rune.
    So for the OP, yes a 650b fork with 26" will work fine.
    A lot of people seem to be happy with their 650b wheels.
    Some people may get spooked by the extra BB height.

    Only person who can say if they're right for you is you.
    Spitty is a little lower anyways, so probably better suited for 650B than the Rune

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Spitty is a little lower anyways, so probably better suited for 650B than the Rune
    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Just because lots of people think 650B is any different then 26" does not make it true
    Most people just go with the fashion instead of thinking what makes sense geometrywise...
    Same holds true for the Spitfire...
    Nice backpedal mate

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    ist still not ideal... but what the heck... it is your bike anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    ist still not ideal... but what the heck... it is your bike anyways
    Why not ask builttoride .
    He designed the rune and is on this forum all the time

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    The Spitfire is "lower" than the Rune -> 10mm due to the geo-charts.
    This means a 650B Spitfire has almost the same bb-heigth as a 26er Rune ...

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    Yes! Switching to 650B destroyed my Geo numbers. 10mm of BB Height! What am I going to do!!!!?????

    In all seriousness I have been on a 650B Rune going on a year now. 10mm of BB height gain? I don't notice it a bit. My pedals still have scuffs from pedal strikes.

    The Rune in 650B guise with the chips in the slack position rides just fine. Actually it rides exactly like my Rune in the 26" guise except for a small amount of holding momentum better, slight rollover and cornering. All in all I like the Rune with the 650B set-up better.

    That said I rode my 650B pike with 26" wheels while I built my 650B wheels with no problems.

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    I also rode my Rune with a 650b pike and 26' for more than 6 months with no problem.
    I don't think the rise in bb height was noticeable when switching to 650b wheels. Actually I feel the bike rides better now. It rolls slightly better, specialy on rock gardens and deeply ruted or rootes trails. Also, I felt the 650b fork with 26' wheels made steering a bit nervous.
    I never rode the bike with a 26'' fork, so cannot tell if is better or not...
    Cheers!
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    I'm so enduro, 26" wheels have never even touched my rune!

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    This Bike is bringing so much fun

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    Switched to 650b and for my riding the bike feels better with higher bottom bracket than with 26" (2.4" tyres), my problem was that I was constantly hitting rocks and deep roots with my pedals at technical trails.

    I've had the flip chips at the lowest setting with 26" and I tried the other settings with the flip chip also, but the bike felt too much like XC-machine for me. 650b fixed the only problem I had with the Rune, so if you haven't tried it yet and have same kind of troubles that I had, I encourage to give it a shot.

    The Fox 36 Float is closest to the coil fork that I've met so far, this fork ROCKS! Had to sell one bike to get it but it was worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis-FIN View Post
    Switched to 650b and for my riding the bike feels better with higher bottom bracket than with 26" (2.4" tyres), my problem was that I was constantly hitting rocks and deep roots with my pedals at technical trails.

    I've had the flip chips at the lowest setting with 26" and I tried the other settings with the flip chip also, but the bike felt too much like XC-machine for me. 650b fixed the only problem I had with the Rune, so if you haven't tried it yet and have same kind of troubles that I had, I encourage to give it a shot.

    The Fox 36 Float is closest to the coil fork that I've met so far, this fork ROCKS! Had to sell one bike to get it but it was worth it.

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    Hi Nice ride.
    I went with a black and red look with Fox 36 aswell.(my bikes on the previous page).
    My forks are 170mm and just rite for the uplift/bike park build I was looking for.
    I agree with you about the coil feel.

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    No more orange

    Just fitted my stealth fork graphicsBanshee Rune V2 Build Thread-image.jpgBanshee Rune V2 Build Thread-image.jpg

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    Might buy one soon...

    How poppy and playful is the bike? i've heard a lot of good things about it but, nothing about it's abillity to pop small features, manuals, berms etc.

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    Might buy one soon...

    How poppy and playful is the bike? i've heard a lot of good things about it but, nothing about it's abillity to pop small features, manuals, berms etc.
    The Rune does it all exceedingly well for a beefy bike. You would think with its long, low, slack numbers that it would be a pig in the tight/choppy stuff, but it rips. It has some of the best air manners of any rig I have been on if not the best and you can boost it off of just about anything. The bottom line: it is one of the best pedaling bikes available and despite its weight (about 1.5-2 lbs heavier than similar eg: Nomad, carbon rigs) it absolutely smokes.

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    Hm, not totally sure about the best pedaling bike (but thatdepends a lot on the Setup), but I agree about the rest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Hm, not totally sure about the best pedaling bike (but thatdepends a lot on the Setup), but I agree about the rest...
    I said "one of..." as there are as many opinions as riders out there. That said, I find it superior to both versions of the VPP system, FSR, I-drive, DW-link, single-pivot and four-bar single pivots. My set up is with a DB Air CS/Pike RC3 and also as I previously mentioned if it weighed a little less there are few rigs that would hold a candle to it.
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    hi all, i've read a lot of messages...but i would really appreciate if there is someone that build rune first with 26" wheels and after change to 650b. pros & cons? considering that i'm running 1*10 setup with 30 blackspire single crown with wolftooth 42d with 26" wheels (easton haven), would be useful to use a 28 single crown in case of 650b wheels?

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    Difference from 26" to 27.5" is about 1 tooth chainringsize...
    But you should also consider the bike`s kinematics... it will maybe have a little pedal kickback with a 28t chainring, I think it was designed for a 32-34t ring...

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    I used mine for a month or so with 26" to start with. 32, 11-36. Changed to 650b and didnt really notice too much difference, it was a little tougher up hills. I changed to an oval 32t a while ago and I think that has helped, but differences are minimal.

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    thanks a lot for your feedback. did you notice relevant different between the two different setup with different wheel diameter? ok, you wrote that you didnt' notice relevant different in uphill. but in downhill mode you noted relevant different? i'm riding my rune more or less since october 2013 with 26 wheels and i'm quite curious to try with the different wheels.

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    Sorry, I thought your concern was how much tougher 650b is uphill.
    DH and on flat, I would say 650b is slightly better than 26, not a lot in it, but does roll faster over obstacles. Its a little slower to get going/accelerate (more so up), but this is outweighed by ability to roll over obstacles better.
    I still have my 26 wheels for DH duties as they are tougher

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    hi guys,

    Planning on buying CC db air cs.after so much consideration, review n research on shocks, i decided that CC db air is the best for rune. my question is, will it fit 'S' size frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoebanshee View Post
    hi guys,

    Planning on buying CC db air cs.after so much consideration, review n research on shocks, i decided that CC db air is the best for rune. my question is, will it fit 'S' size frame?
    I have a CCDB Inline with under 100 miles that I need to sell. i still have the box, all of the paperwork, & extra volume sleeves. PM me and we can work out the details.
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    First ride on my XL Rune, what a difference having the right size frame makes!Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread-imageuploadedbytapatalk1430804617.525987.jpg

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    Hey guys,

    I have been riding my Rune with CCDB Air for a bit more than 2 years now... but I have the feeling that it (the shock) really needs a service any time soon, and I want to get a replacement shock and maybe try something lighter, partly to see if a "climbswitch/CTD/whatever they call it) would be usefull uphill...

    I heared that it is better to use the Monarch Plus rather than the Monarch Plus DebonAir, since it matches the kinematics much better... but this one is not really easily available...

    does anyone have a clue which airshock with uphill compression switch might be the most suitable? It should match the performance of my Lyrik coil RC2DH...

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    CCDBAir with Climb Switch :P?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas.blub View Post
    CCDBAir with Climb Switch :P?
    +1 from me

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    that would be way too easy...

    irony is that on my Darside, there is a DBAir with CS - only that I never need it there... but they are different length

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    Sold my CCDB in favor of a Float X and have never looked back. That service $$ really adds up...

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    Evening all.
    I'm eagerly waiting for the new 11 speed XT stuff to come into stock.
    Can anyone tell me if I want the 50mm or 53mm chain line on the cranks??
    Keith???

    Thanks

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    I had float and debonair on my rune but bos kirk works far better


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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have been riding my Rune with CCDB Air for a bit more than 2 years now... but I have the feeling that it (the shock) really needs a service any time soon, and I want to get a replacement shock and maybe try something lighter, partly to see if a "climbswitch/CTD/whatever they call it) would be usefull uphill...

    I heared that it is better to use the Monarch Plus rather than the Monarch Plus DebonAir, since it matches the kinematics much better... but this one is not really easily available...

    does anyone have a clue which airshock with uphill compression switch might be the most suitable? It should match the performance of my Lyrik coil RC2DH...
    I'm running Coil Lyriks and CCDB CS, I took a good few rides to get the setting as I wanted it, but it's awesome now. Just tweak a couple of dials for full on downhill duties and the bike is a weapon. Tweak it back and go and climb 4000ft in 20 miles.

    The CS really makes a difference, you can set the shock up to perform as it should on flowy singletrack and dh, and not worry about compromises just so it climbs well too. I've always had RP23s on other bikes and it works so much better than those. It stays really active but everything slows down with the cs on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have been riding my Rune with CCDB Air for a bit more than 2 years now... but I have the feeling that it (the shock) really needs a service any time soon, and I want to get a replacement shock and maybe try something lighter, partly to see if a "climbswitch/CTD/whatever they call it) would be usefull uphill...

    I heared that it is better to use the Monarch Plus rather than the Monarch Plus DebonAir, since it matches the kinematics much better... but this one is not really easily available...

    does anyone have a clue which airshock with uphill compression switch might be the most suitable? It should match the performance of my Lyrik coil RC2DH...
    I've run both Monarch Plus ('13) and Monarch Plus Debonair ('15) on my Rune. I don't agree that the regular plus is better than the debonair, at least not for the Rune V2. Also, I find that the compression setting is also very important. For me, the L is better than the M, this latter is harsh for the Rune cinematic. Oddly, this same shock on a '10 Enduro was sweat!!! Can not speak of how it would perform on a Rune V1...

    I still have the older Monarch, so if you are interested, maybe we can sort something... Although I don't know if this would fit a V1. Dimensions are 216x63mm. Send me a PM if you are interested.

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    Mine is a V2... first series for the upgraders, delivered Okctober 2012...

    So you recommend the debonair with L compression stack?

    btw. I will go for a new shock, since it should be a runner for at least this season...

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    Cachaulo what model and length is your dropper. I´ve got identical frame and thinking about this shadow routing dropper upgrade. Nice bike by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailTiger View Post
    Cachaulo what model and length is your dropper. I´ve got identical frame and thinking about this shadow routing dropper upgrade. Nice bike by the way!
    I am using the 420mm length, 125mm travel reverb stealth...the 380/125 didn't leave me with as much post engagement and I wanted to make sure I could get the seat high enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Mine is a V2... first series for the upgraders, delivered Okctober 2012...

    So you recommend the debonair with L compression stack?

    btw. I will go for a new shock, since it should be a runner for at least this season...
    My bad, I was convinced you had a 2009 Rune. Sorry.

    Anyway, I'm very pleased with the L comp debonair.
    That said, I'm 90+Kg, and can't say if a lighter rider would find this tune underdamped.

    Hope it helps.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoebanshee View Post
    hi guys,

    Planning on buying CC db air cs.after so much consideration, review n research on shocks, i decided that CC db air is the best for rune. my question is, will it fit 'S' size frame?
    hi keith/builttoride,
    will CC db air cs fit my "S" size rune?

    Quote Originally Posted by spunkmtb View Post
    I have a CCDB Inline with under 100 miles that I need to sell. i still have the box, all of the paperwork, & extra volume sleeves. PM me and we can work out the details.
    hi spunkmtb,
    thanx for the offer, but i think i'll get a new one.. appreciate your kind offer bro

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    How tall are you? I'm 192 and thought an XL would be too big but it's spot on.

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    Rune Pivot Bolt & Bearing Removal / Replacement

    Hello All

    I have two questions please any feedback on your experience will be great.

    1) I'm struggling to remove the lower linkage bolts, the upper linkage bolts were easy , but the lower ones seem stiff / stuck , Any special technique involved here ?

    2) Will standard bearing tools remove the bearings from the frame, the reason i ask is because the inner side of the frame isn't flat, seems to be built up a bit around the bearing recess

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    Where can i buy some 26" 12X150mm rear dropouts in europe for the rune?

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by NóiNPO View Post
    Where can i buy some 26" 12X150mm rear dropouts in europe for the rune?

    Thanks in advance
    Maybe other places, but the portuguese distributor seems to have them in stock:
    Dropout Kit BANSHEE KS Link - JUSTBIKES Online Store

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by makoman View Post
    How tall are you? I'm 192 and thought an XL would be too big but it's spot on.
    I'm 6', and the large fits nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NóiNPO View Post
    Where can i buy some 26" 12X150mm rear dropouts in europe for the rune?
    Thanks in advance
    Everyday26

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    My newly built steed.



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    Need help with Monarch

    I installed a monarch debonair R model (no compression) M L tune. It was stock from a Norco Range. I am 180lb with gear and only have 140 psi to achieve proper sag. Ive been told that is really low. Can anyone else with a monarch compare notes with me? I am curious how many bands you have installed and how much psi. Ride characteristics etc.

    Thanks

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    Hi, I used my monarch plus from my norco range while my ccdb was being serviced not to long ago. I weigh about 195 and ran about 190psi to get 30 percent sag. I know this is a different rock show ham your but it seems like 140psi is a bit light but your air can is bigger so it might use less air due to larger volume. One weird thing about running the monarch on my Rune was even with a healthy 30% sag I still couldn't get it to use the full length of the travel or bottom it out. How about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGPIE!!! View Post
    Need help with Monarch

    I installed a monarch debonair R model (no compression) M L tune. It was stock from a Norco Range. I am 180lb with gear and only have 140 psi to achieve proper sag. Ive been told that is really low. Can anyone else with a monarch compare notes with me? I am curious how many bands you have installed and how much psi. Ride characteristics etc.

    Thanks
    I'm runing a monarch+ debonair. To achieve 30% sag at the shock I'm using 210psi. I'm 95kg with all gear (~210lb).
    On the '13 monarch+ (not debonair) I was using 230psi.
    So, as far as I can tell, the debonair will use less pressure than a regular shock to achieve the same sag.

    Regarding the full travel issue, I had the same problem when first using the '13 monarch+ with the stock MM setting. After changing the compression stack to a lower setting this was corrected. For sure, when riding a mellow trail, I did not use full travel, even with the new setting. But on a more agressive trail, on the same hits, drops and jumps where previously I was getting 90% of travel at best, I started achieving all travel. On the new debonair+ (ML stting), it is similar.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cburden View Post
    Hi, I used my monarch plus from my norco range while my ccdb was being serviced not to long ago. I weigh about 195 and ran about 190psi to get 30 percent sag. I know this is a different rock show ham your but it seems like 140psi is a bit light but your air can is bigger so it might use less air due to larger volume. One weird thing about running the monarch on my Rune was even with a healthy 30% sag I still couldn't get it to use the full length of the travel or bottom it out. How about you?
    Interesting thanks! I am able to get full travel on just about any trail, the weird thing is that it feels pretty spot on with mellow xc am stuff but performs really weird on true DH stuff. The other weird thing is that a recent ''ask pinkbike'' others are running their debonairs with like 300 psi: Ask Pinkbike: Creaky Seatposts, Handlebar Suggestions, Shock Setup, and Flying With a Bike - Pinkbike
    Last edited by MAGPIE!!!; 05-24-2015 at 05:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tugamik View Post
    I'm runing a monarch+ debonair. To achieve 30% sag at the shock I'm using 210psi. I'm 95kg with all gear (~210lb).
    On the '13 monarch+ (not debonair) I was using 230psi.
    So, as far as I can tell, the debonair will use less pressure than a regular shock to achieve the same sag.

    Regarding the full travel issue, I had the same problem when first using the '13 monarch+ with the stock MM setting. After changing the compression stack to a lower setting this was corrected. For sure, when riding a mellow trail, I did not use full travel, even with the new setting. But on a more agressive trail, on the same hits, drops and jumps where previously I was getting 90% of travel at best, I started achieving all travel. On the new debonair+ (ML stting), it is similar.

    Cheers
    Makes sense, thanks! So how did you change your compression stack? I might have to play with around with the bands and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGPIE!!! View Post
    Makes sense, thanks! So how did you change your compression stack? I might have to play with around with the bands and see what happens.
    LBS...
    I'm not too handy when it comes to playing with the insides of a shock...
    Actually they're are not a regular LBS. They are specialists in shock/fork maintenance and tuning.

    Cheers

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    I know this is a random question. I currently have a medium Legend and Rune. After mainly riding the Rune all of the time the legend feels so small. Does anyone else ride both of these frames? If so what sizes do you have?

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    Legends up until 2014 were rather small compared to dh bikes from other manufacturers. I've been riding Rune and legend in M until last year, then switched both to L (2014 Rune, 2015 Legend). I'm 177cm and I don't regret the switch.

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    Hi!
    For almost 5'6'' (167 cm) S or M size?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by esferico View Post
    Hi!
    For almost 5'6'' (167 cm) S or M size?
    Thanks
    I would go with M. I´m also 167 cm and got a S Sptifire. If I could pick again I would go with a M Spitfire.

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    Those that made the jump from 26" to 27.5 was it worth the change? I've been debating tossing my 26" blunt35's for some 27.5 LB rims. I'd be out roughly $500 between rims and tires to convert. Just trying to see if it's worth the expense.

    Not trying to turn this thread into a wheel bashing thread. Just wanted to ask here since the frame is setup to fit either wheel size.

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    Actually, it is made for 26" wheels, with the slight possibility to fit 27.5" wheels.

    I wouldn`t bother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have been riding my Rune with CCDB Air for a bit more than 2 years now... but I have the feeling that it (the shock) really needs a service any time soon, and I want to get a replacement shock and maybe try something lighter, partly to see if a "climbswitch/CTD/whatever they call it) would be usefull uphill...

    I heared that it is better to use the Monarch Plus rather than the Monarch Plus DebonAir, since it matches the kinematics much better... but this one is not really easily available...

    does anyone have a clue which airshock with uphill compression switch might be the most suitable? It should match the performance of my Lyrik coil RC2DH...
    try vivid air...you gonna love the feeling...when you go up and downhill...with that shock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmX View Post
    Actually, it is made for 26" wheels, with the slight possibility to fit 27.5" wheels.

    I wouldn`t bother...
    No it's not.
    I had this conversation with Keith (builttoride on this forum)he designed it and runs his 27.5"
    Look back on previous posts by him he's really active on this forum and his posts are really helpful.
    The bb height is only affected by 5mm and the benefit of the larger wheel is worth it .
    But I personally would only change if you have to replace your wheels because 26" works aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedo32 View Post
    try vivid air...you gonna love the feeling...when you go up and downhill...with that shock...
    too bad the vivid doesn't have a climb switch... it would be my choice if it had one also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesos View Post
    No it's not.
    I had this conversation with "Builtoride" he designed it and runs his 27.5"
    Look back on previous posts by him he's really active on this forum and his posts are really helpful.
    The bb height is only affected by 5mm and the benefit of the larger wheel is worth it .
    But I personally would only change if you have to replace your wheels because 26" works aswell.
    Banshee's published numbers say it raises it by 10mm. With the 275 dropouts not adding any additional drop from the 26" dropout, the bigger wheel has to raise the BB by half of the additional tire diameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanceuppercut View Post
    Banshee's published numbers say it raises it by 10mm. With the 275 dropouts not adding any additional drop from the 26" dropout, the bigger wheel has to raise the BB by half of the additional tire diameter.
    Not what the designer told me.
    He physically measured it on his personal 27.5" rune .
    The exact measurement is 6mm higher, have a look at 6mm on a rule an you'll see how insignificant it is.
    It was designed to work with 27.5" and 26" and in my opinion works just as well any of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesos View Post
    Not what the designer told me.
    He physically measured it on his personal 27.5" rune .
    The exact measurement is 6mm higher, have a look at 6mm on a rule an you'll see how insignificant it is.
    It was designed to work with 27.5" and 26" and in my opinion works just as well any of them
    If the axle to crown measurement stays constant, and the 650b dropout keeps the rear axle height the same in relation to the frame as Banshee states, that would mean that the 275 tire is only 12mm larger in diameter than the 26". Somebody let me know if I'm somehow screwing my math up.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just trying to understand how the numbers came about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanceuppercut View Post
    If the axle to crown measurement stays constant, and the 650b dropout keeps the rear axle height the same in relation to the frame as Banshee states, that would mean that the 275 tire is only 12mm larger in diameter than the 26". Somebody let me know if I'm somehow screwing my math up.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just trying to understand how the numbers came about.
    I know what's on paper doesn't quite add up.
    Perhaps the 27.5 dropouts put the axle slightly higher compared with BB.
    I'm not sure perhaps we should ask builttoride.
    Although if you think about it if you have the same sagg at the shock with longer distance from pivot to axle ,the distance the axle moves up is slightly more .
    simple school boy math.

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    matter of truth is - in reallity, a 650B Rune has 10-15mm higher BB dependig on fork and tires.
    6mm maybe if you compare a 26" Rune with 170mm Lyrik an 2.5" tires with 650B Rune with 160mm Fox 36 and 2.2" tires...

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    No it's not MalcolmX
    It's been measured and its 6mm with same volume tyres,so in fact it's not a matter of truth
    The longer distance from pivot to rear axle with the same sagg brings the rear axle slightly higher compared with the BB.
    Fork length will affect the bb height but with clever selection you can minimise that.
    I wanted 170mm fork so I selected a 2015 fox 36 as the crown to axle measurement isn't far off the pike 160mm

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    so what is the actual number you measured, with which dropout setting?

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    Not by me but by Keith the actual designer of the bike.
    Ask him yourself he's known as builttoride.
    He's really active on this forum and so helpful

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    Sorry if you maybe put your money into an unsatisfying setup, but it is imply not true (I don`t know if you directly got your info from Keith)
    I measured bb-height in at least 6-7 different Rune builds from myself and some friends, and I know the numbers.
    With 170mm Fox 36, neutral Setting and decent tires, your bb will be around 360mm, likely a touch higher... in slack, you will probably end up at 355mm...

    I know Keith has always been very helpful, since I bought my first Rune V1 in 2008, and he has always been super helpful and supportive however the 6mm is an urban legend, and simply not possible, when your wheels raise the bike 12mm and the fork is at least a couple of mm higher, even if it is short by 650B standards...
    The effect with the longer distance of the rear axle is in the 1-2mm range...

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    Who said I wasn't satisfied with my build.
    It performs exactly as I wanted

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