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    And if it helps any I'm on a Spitfire with 32t 11-36. I'm not that fit. The rear suspension action and frame geometry help a lot with making the climbs easier. I'm on 160 Talas and never run the low setting. Compared to my old Tracer with 140mm fork but equivalent weights/gearing the Spitty wins hands down.

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    Hans Dampf 2.35 650B on X-Fusion Vengeance ?

    Hi all you Banshee owners and those with more experience than me , I know that this has probably been asked before but if anyone has any definitive insight , please share.

    I will be fitting a X-Fusion Vengeance HLR to my new frame when it arrives and will be running Hope / Stans Flow 650b. I have got a set of Schwalbe Hans Dampf's 2.35. Will I need any adjustments to the fork or will the clearance be sufficient. I have heard that the clearance at the crown is very little.

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    I've been running same set-up 650b with Hans Dampf 2.35 and High-Roller II 2.3 fit no problems. Plenty of clearance all round. No need to adjust.

    Using arch mudguard is a bit tight but works fine in the last month of mud.

    Found running the forks set at 170mm travel the axle-crown height was too high, setting at 150mm travel gave best stack height, bottom bracket height, steering angle etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by dzdale View Post
    Hi all you Banshee owners and those with more experience than me , I know that this has probably been asked before but if anyone has any definitive insight , please share.

    I will be fitting a X-Fusion Vengeance HLR to my new frame when it arrives and will be running Hope / Stans Flow 650b. I have got a set of Schwalbe Hans Dampf's 2.35. Will I need any adjustments to the fork or will the clearance be sufficient. I have heard that the clearance at the crown is very little.

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    Nice to see you back AdrianoMTB - great build!

    Did you go for 150mm or 160mm pike?

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    Hi guys! from the first rune i Posted it here... here it comes my new one...

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    Some really sweet looking bikes on this thread.
    Not seen any on here with the new Fox Float X shock yet. Anyone got one? How is it working so far with the Rune?
    Hopefully my frame should be here this week. Just waiting then on the X-Fusion Sweep fork to show up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    I've been running same set-up 650b with Hans Dampf 2.35 and High-Roller II 2.3 fit no problems. Plenty of clearance all round. No need to adjust.

    Using arch mudguard is a bit tight but works fine in the last month of mud.

    Found running the forks set at 170mm travel the axle-crown height was too high, setting at 150mm travel gave best stack height, bottom bracket height, steering angle etc.
    Hi ptd , thanks for the feedback , Do you have the HLR Coil ? Thats what Ive ordered , if so how do you make the travel adjustments ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzdale View Post
    Hi ptd , thanks for the feedback , Do you have the HLR Coil ? Thats what Ive ordered , if so how do you make the travel adjustments ?
    I have the air spring, but you can adjust the travel on the coil also.

    Edit: At least their website says you can adjust the coil travel with the travel adjust - maybe someone with the coil can confirm?

    X-Fusion call it the 'ladder adjust'.
    http://www.xfusionshox.com/images/pd...vel-Adjust.pdf

    Edit: These instructions are right - but instruction #16 showing the different travel positions are a bit old. The forks are max 170mm with 20mm steps, so the next one down is 150mm. My memory is a bit vague I've only opened mine once, but I think the 170mm/160mm option is achieved by a 10mm 'travel reducer' in the bottom of the fork rather than the ladder adjust.

    It's easy, but you need a nice press (like an arbor press) to get the pin in and out - that's the only tricky bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    I have the air spring, but you can adjust the travel on the coil also.

    X-Fusion call it the 'ladder adjust'.
    http://www.xfusionshox.com/images/pd...vel-Adjust.pdf

    Edit: These instructions are right - but instruction #16 showing the different travel positions are a bit old. The forks are max 170mm with 20mm steps, so the next one down is 150mm.

    It's easy, but you need a nice press (like an arbor press) to get the pin in and out - that's the only tricky bit.
    Thanks for the reply . Not to keen on going to 150 , I don't have the fork yet , wondering if I shouldn't change that for a 160 Pike ? I am a heavy rider and was hoping to have a do it all bike that was equally capable in the bike park hence my interest in the vengeance coil 170 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzdale View Post
    Thanks for the reply . Not to keen on going to 150 , I don't have the fork yet , wondering if I shouldn't change that for a 160 Pike ? I am a heavy rider and was hoping to have a do it all bike that was equally capable in the bike park hence my interest in the vengeance coil 170 ...
    Yeah I was reluctant to loose the 20mm but I must admit the forks are really composed and I don't miss the travel.

    I'm tempted on the Pike myself for weight saving only, and would choose the 150mm for the lower axle-crown so I can set the back dropouts to slack more often.

    That's my current theory anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    Yeah I was reluctant to loose the 20mm but I must admit the forks are really composed and I don't miss the travel.

    I'm tempted on the Pike myself for weight saving only, and would choose the 150mm for the lower axle-crown so I can set the back dropouts to slack more often.

    That's my current theory anyway!
    Thats good to hear. I'm not too bothered about weight as I could probably lose a few pounds myself Have you had any time on the Pike ? and if so how would you rate the performance difference between that and the vengeance ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzdale View Post
    Thats good to hear. I'm not too bothered about weight as I could probably lose a few pounds myself Have you had any time on the Pike ? and if so how would you rate the performance difference between that and the vengeance ?
    No time on the Pike, only the glowing user reviews to go by and a few odd reports about bushings. I'm a sucker for marketing!

    I'd rate the Vengeance highly, for example they make me happy like Fox 40s, maybe even more noticeable high and low speed compression adjustments.

    If I could choose now it'd be Pike only for weight, Vengeance performance and reliability has been great, and fun to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    No time on the Pike, only the glowing user reviews to go by and a few odd reports about bushings. I'm a sucker for marketing!

    I'd rate the Vengeance highly, for example they make me happy like Fox 40s, maybe even more noticeable high and low speed compression adjustments.

    If I could choose now it'd be Pike only for weight, Vengeance performance and reliability has been great, and fun to ride!
    Brilliant , Thanks for the replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.PEDRO View Post
    What do you feel with the 32t ? Do you have enough speed when downhill and it's not too hard when you uphill ?
    Iīve to admit that none of the climbs on my current setup was more than 250 vertical meters but till now I didnīt really realize any difference while climbing. On the parts of the climbs where I used the first gear of my old setup, I get along with 32/42t pretty well. Feels the same to me even if itīs different on paper.
    Iīm shifting to the second or third gear in same spots where I shifted befor but at this point, I can feel the difference because of the wider spread.
    Iīm running 42-35-29-24-21-19-17-15-13-11.

    On the fast side of the gears, there is one missing. But...I honestly never used 36/11 in the field. If Iīm that fast, I have other things to do than to pedal

    On the verry few transfers to or from my hometrails where I used this gear, I can still pedal with 32/11t without spinning out.

    I see it this way: The Rune is no streetfighter an maybe not even an AM rig?! If I really need a bigger gear on time, Iīm either in the wrong place or I should consider turning Enduro-Pro

    If I were a bit more powerfull, I would probably thingk about a 34t up front but currently I see no need for this, and the chainline while climbing is bad enought right now

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    hi to all i am waiting for my 2014 rune frame i have almost all parts right know i am reading this entire topic loool also this is my firts build and i buy a 26/39 and a 24/38 with a 11/32 cassette is this setup will be hard to climbing ? also it will be posible to only change the 26 for the 24 lol only ? sorry about my english thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    We will be shipping a limited run of orange runes soon... (this frame pictured was a proto sample).
    or @ NoStyle

    can you re-post a picture of the orange rune...i dont know if i could resist purchasing an orange rune...

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    Sorry, unfortunately it was only a Link that doesnīt work anymore. I havenīt saved it, so canīt re-post it.
    Hopefully someone has it or another one to post up here!

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    R: Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Here it is


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    thanks!

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    wow orange rune looks sick sick

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    Hi guys, first post on this forum. So far i have learnt a lot, hopefully pick up some more!!

    I am awaiting my 2014 Rune frame, and starting to look at the build.

    So far im sold on XX1 drivetrain, and 160mm Pike up front.

    Anyone able to give me the specs on the headset i going to need to run the Pike? Im looking at either Cane Creek or Chris King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizensnips3 View Post
    Anyone able to give me the specs on the headset i going to need to run the Pike? Im looking at either Cane Creek or Chris King.
    SHIS zero stack tapered steerer:
    Upper: ZS 44/28.6
    Lower ZS 56/40

    I have the cane creek 40, lower bearing gets lots of muck, might suggest the 110 as it apparently has better sealing but I haven't tried one.

    Edit: This looks like the right Chris King one
    http://chrisking.com/files/upload/he...-Fit-Guide.jpg

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    Thanks for the info.

    Cant wait to get it all together.

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    When I build my rune I had troubles aligning rear brake as it was too far out. To position it properly I used 2mm shims between dropout and brake adapter.

    My dropouts are 26" 142x12. Hub is hope 2 pro evo.
    Is it normal?

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by tene View Post
    When I build my rune I had troubles aligning rear brake as it was too far out. To position it properly I used 2mm shims which was in box with changuide.

    My dropouts are 26" 142x12. Hub is hope 2 pro evo.
    Is it normal?
    There were apparently a few issues with the earlier dropouts (see earlier in this thread) which the new revised dropouts resolve.

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    Hey guys, couldn't find an active V1 build thread. I'm looking at buying the shock that was on a 2011 Rune. It's the Monarch 4.2, anyone know what compression and rebound tune it would have been set at, or maybe what tune the 2011 Rune calls for? All that the shock days on it is 75 PSI

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    Is there any official measurement on the rune 2014 yet? How much weight does it save (vs. rune v2 2013).

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    No weight savings. 2014 is more or less the same as 2013.

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    Not sure if this has been discussed but just a thought.

    I can currently get a Rune V2 with CCDBA or Spitfire V2 with Fox CTD. Both roughly the same price, but shocks are different.

    My riding probably does not require or even justify Rune, mostly trail with very rare trail/bike centres.

    The question is: if I get a Rune and build it up with Works Components angleset to steepen the head angle rather than slackening it, and keep riding the CCDB with smaller air chamber to keep the suspension more lively, will this be effectively Spitfire? There are some geo differences, namely Rune has very slighly shorter chainstays and ETT, but it should not make that much of a difference?

    Weight is quite similar between the frames and does not really concern me too much.

    Or should I just stop making things up and get a Spitfire with Fox CTD rather than Rune with CCDBa?

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    I've got a spitfire now and I'm currently waiting for my rune. Both had ccdb because I hate fox shox after owning many. Get the spitfire sell the fox and get a rockshox or x fusion. You won't look back.

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    Thanks for the advice AllenB.

    I have a vague feeling that I've been in touch with you on Pinkbike re: your Raw 650b Spitfire?

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    Haha! I'm everywhere. Yep that's me. Rune should be tomorrow. I'm getting my rune so I can start doing uplifts again.

    Stripping spitty tonight.

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    Oh and the tt on a large is 615 for both rune and spitty.

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    Website says 610 Rune and 615 Spitty?

    I was under the impression that they have the same wheelbase and due to slacker angles Rune logically has slightly shorter ETT and reach too.

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    Anyone run into this yet? 26x2.4 Trailking with the dropouts in the highest/least slack setting the tire rubs the bottom triangle brace. I know theres a handfull of other tires this large, curious what else hit's. It probly clears by 1/4 inch in the middle position just not in the highest.
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    Is this a 650B/27.5 Tire?
    Honestly, with my 26 Highroller II 2.4 in the 26 Dropouts there is around 20 mm of Clearance. Although I have a Spitfire and the Rear-Triangle might be different ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Is this a 650B/27.5 Tire?
    Honestly, with my 26 Highroller II 2.4 in the 26 Dropouts there is around 20 mm of Clearance. Although I have a Spitfire and the Rear-Triangle might be different ...
    No it's a 26x2.4 conti trailking. It fits fine with the flip chips in the middle position. I have a HRII 26x2.4 here it's a good bit smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Is this a 650B/27.5 Tire?
    Honestly, with my 26 Highroller II 2.4 in the 26 Dropouts there is around 20 mm of Clearance. Although I have a Spitfire and the Rear-Triangle might be different ...
    So you have an all different setup...
    what do you want to prove with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94krawler View Post
    No it's a 26x2.4 conti trailking. It fits fine with the flip chips in the middle position. I have a HRII 26x2.4 here it's a good bit smaller.
    That's strange. I once tested a 2,5 Conti Baron (DH) tire in the highest setting in my v2. There was definitely enough clearance. I can't even imagine a tire that would not fit...(fatbike tires excluded*g*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeezKneez View Post
    So you have an all different setup...
    what do you want to prove with this?
    Prove? Hmmm ... as mentioned, the Spitfire Rear-Triangle might be a bit different, not sure about that, but Iīm really curious because there is plenty of Clearance for a 26" Tire. So much that I can run a 2.3 650B-Tire in the regular 26 Dropouts. Clearance is only limited by the square middle Brace, but not by the upper or lower ones. Again: Maybe the Rune is different! Just wondering if the 2.4 Trailking has a so much higher Carcass than the 26 2.4 Highroller II on a friendīs Rune, which clears fine in all Flip-Chip-Settings ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Evteev View Post
    Not sure if this has been discussed but just a thought.

    I can currently get a Rune V2 with CCDBA or Spitfire V2 with Fox CTD. Both roughly the same price, but shocks are different.

    My riding probably does not require or even justify Rune, mostly trail with very rare trail/bike centres.

    The question is: if I get a Rune and build it up with Works Components angleset to steepen the head angle rather than slackening it, and keep riding the CCDB with smaller air chamber to keep the suspension more lively, will this be effectively Spitfire? There are some geo differences, namely Rune has very slighly shorter chainstays and ETT, but it should not make that much of a difference?

    Weight is quite similar between the frames and does not really concern me too much.

    Or should I just stop making things up and get a Spitfire with Fox CTD rather than Rune with CCDBa?
    Shock-Option aside - My impression is that if your Riding doesnīt require a Rune the Spitfire might be more suitable for you. To steepen up a Rune makes it not a possible Spitfire, as there are Differences in Rear-Travel (the Spitfire is more firmer overall) and Geometry (Reach, ETT, HA and BB-Height). The Rune will get a higher BB and slacker Seatangles, which is somehow senseless.
    Is there no Possibility to get a Spitfire with CCDB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Prove? Hmmm ... as mentioned, the Spitfire Rear-Triangle might be a bit different, not sure about that, but Iīm really curious because there is plenty of Clearance for a 26" Tire. So much that I can run a 2.3 650B-Tire in the regular 26 Dropouts. Clearance is only limited by the square middle Brace, but not by the upper or lower ones. Again: Maybe the Rune is different! Just wondering if the 2.4 Trailking has a so much higher Carcass than the 26 2.4 Highroller II on a friendīs Rune, which clears fine in all Flip-Chip-Settings ...
    The Trailking is 27.25 tall overall. It's nearly a half inch taller than a 2.5 minion. Sorry the Minion is the only other tire on a wheel right now. I never tried moving my flip chip's to the least slack angle before and when you do it moves the tire forward and down in the frame. Its not a huge deal but I was curious if anyone else ran into this with any other tires.

    FWIW I do have 650b dropouts I could swap on but the short chainstay is nice. Putting on a 650b dropout to fit a 26" tires seems silly let alone gaining .4 of a inch of chainstay to do it.
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    Does someone use 2x9 setup?

    I installed 36x22 chainset and 11-32 cassete. It seems like mid cage derailleur's limit is 22x18 if i shift to smaller cog chain will lose all tension.
    Maybe I doing something wrong, but I can not shorten chain, as it would be too short for 36-32 with compressed suspension. But mig cage worked just fine on Giant Reign even with 11-34 cassete.

    I read that people use 2x10 - does it work on all cassete cogs?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm finally i have my Banshee Rune 2014 back/black

    i receive my banshee rune today from www.rbikes.com. and i will build this weekend with old my love my beautiful bike i already install the CCDB and richard bikes send me the frame with the chris king headset installed so i have a job less to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by tene View Post
    Does someone use 2x9 setup?

    I installed 36x22 chainset and 11-32 cassete. It seems like mid cage derailleur's limit is 22x18 if i shift to smaller cog chain will lose all tension.
    Maybe I doing something wrong, but I can not shorten chain, as it would be too short for 36-32 with compressed suspension. But mig cage worked just fine on Giant Reign even with 11-34 cassete.

    I read that people use 2x10 - does it work on all cassete cogs?
    Iīm using oldskool 2x9 XT Shadow (GS = mid Cage Derailleur) on my Spitfire and there is no Issue at all. I went the way to keep the Chain as long as possible plus Guide. A Bike-Mate of mine has 2x10 XT Shadow + (mid Cage) on his Rune and same here - no Issues while shifting through all Gears ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94krawler View Post
    The Trailking is 27.25 tall overall. It's nearly a half inch taller than a 2.5 minion. Sorry the Minion is the only other tire on a wheel right now. I never tried moving my flip chip's to the least slack angle before and when you do it moves the tire forward and down in the frame. Its not a huge deal but I was curious if anyone else ran into this with any other tires.

    FWIW I do have 650b dropouts I could swap on but the short chainstay is nice. Putting on a 650b dropout to fit a 26" tires seems silly let alone gaining .4 of a inch of chainstay to do it.
    Yes, running 650B Dropouts to fit a overtall 2.6 Tire doesnīt make Sense.
    By the way - here is an interesting Review:

    BANSHEE RUNE bike test The trail thug!

    In this Review the Tester runs 650B (!) Highroller II (2.4?) in the 26 Dropouts and has no Clearance-Issues, at least in the slack Setting.

    Tough to say swap the rear Trailking for another Tire, but it seems this Tire has a much higher Carcass than Maxxis or Schwalbe. And like Grazertourer has mentioned - a 2.5 Conti Baron is even bigger/taller than the others and does fit.

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    Hi,

    Soon I'll have here the full spec list. I'm still working on some components.
    I've chosen the Bos Kirk instead of CCDB just to save some weight. Now let's see how does the Kirk handle the job...
    I'll be also running it in 26''


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    These black on black frames are nice! That Kirk shock looks superb in that frame!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Yes, running 650B Dropouts to fit a overtall 2.6 Tire doesnīt make Sense.
    By the way - here is an interesting Review:

    BANSHEE RUNE bike test The trail thug!

    In this Review the Tester runs 650B (!) Highroller II (2.4?) in the 26 Dropouts and has no Clearance-Issues, at least in the slack Setting.

    Tough to say swap the rear Trailking for another Tire, but it seems this Tire has a much higher Carcass than Maxxis or Schwalbe. And like Grazertourer has mentioned - a 2.5 Conti Baron is even bigger/taller than the others and does fit.
    Yup that totally makes sense, look at the your dropouts. As the dropout moves further into the slack position theres more tire clearance at the bottom of the swing arm. Theres a few other tires with large volume casings, The Ardent 2.4 comes to mind. Just curious if anyone else knew of anything else hitting.
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    I pulled my CTD for warranty and swapped on a DHX5.0 I had kicking around. Its 1/4inch longer and has 1/4inch more travel. Compressed distance is the same and I cycled it and nothing bind's. Is it going to be OK to run this till my CTD comes back? I cant see a reason not to run it unless its going to void my warranty or something.
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    i cant get my rune to fit right this is my parts sram x0 gxp 26/39 and sram 1099 11/32 with sram x0 medium cage type 2 derraileur and xx front derraileur 26/39 direct mount s3 bottom pull and chris king gxp sram mtb BB but i can't get all this work together the the shifter do not change well and even the chain is slightly touching the swing arm when i rotate the pedals so do i do something wrong i try everything and a friend of mine that know more than me try and nothing i will have to go to a local bike shop for the first time loool Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread-img_0713.jpg
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    You've got all the spacers and the springy thing from the CK BB on the drive side?

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    i put 4 spacer and what do you mean about the springy thing?

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    The two piece metal device that puts a side load on the bearings.

    "disc spring"

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    do you mean the like 1/2in tube that goes on the crank star tube and the one that look like a doble star washer loool ? sorry about my english

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    Yes, the flat double metal piece should be on the drive side against the BB.

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    omg i put it on the non drive side but on the manual gxp the pic look like the disc spring goes on the non drive side oooh shit on the chris king BB instrictions are in the drive side and in the crankset instructions are in the non side drive omfg

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    after all the problem was that my rear derraileur limit screw up/down
    was broken and i did not see it loool

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    Its my Rune..) Theme on local forum with many photos: Banshee Rune V2





    Now with Fox 36 float 2014^
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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Awesome build, so sweet. Are the fox floats 160 ?

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    I am in a bit of a dilemma in trying to understand fork offset. Been reading a lot about fork offset but still got some unanswered questions I'm hoping someone can help me out on.
    Currently have a Fox 36 and looking to go to 650b.
    Getting a XFusion Metric 180mm. They offer the fork in a 26/650b with a 42mm offset and a 650b specific with 46mm offset. My frame is a XL so I am not worried about the 650b tire hitting my foot if I was to go with the 42mm offset fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but I am thinking that the 42mm offset fork with 180mm fork and 650b will give me a more similar feeling to a 160mm fork with a 46mm offset. It will allow the bike to be less "floppy" at slow speeds. Does anyone know what offset the grometry specs are for on the Banshee website? Probably looking into this too much but curious and figured others might be too.

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    Hi Guys,

    I've recently updated my 2013 Raw Fox CTD frame to a 2014 Black CCDBAirCS and I have a question for Keith or anyone who can answer it...

    Is it possible to install a new 2014 Rock Shox Reverb Stealth with Connectamajig or is the seat tube hole too narrow for it to get into? Maybe better the 2013 Reverb without Connectamajig?

    Have any of you been able to install a Connectamajig Reverb in your 2014 Rune?

    Thank you very much!

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    I think it goes the more offset the less floppy.
    20mm more travel with less offset would mean more floppy.
    Edit: just saw the 26/650 comparison, wiki has a formula that might give the answer...
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    I am in a bit of a dilemma in trying to understand fork offset. Been reading a lot about fork offset but still got some unanswered questions I'm hoping someone can help me out on.
    Currently have a Fox 36 and looking to go to 650b.
    Getting a XFusion Metric 180mm. They offer the fork in a 26/650b with a 42mm offset and a 650b specific with 46mm offset. My frame is a XL so I am not worried about the 650b tire hitting my foot if I was to go with the 42mm offset fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but I am thinking that the 42mm offset fork with 180mm fork and 650b will give me a more similar feeling to a 160mm fork with a 46mm offset. It will allow the bike to be less "floppy" at slow speeds. Does anyone know what offset the grometry specs are for on the Banshee website? Probably looking into this too much but curious and figured others might be too.

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    You'll have to thread the hose through before connecting the Connectamajig once the hose is out the top of the seat tube. This will give you the option of removing the seatpost a few times without need to bleed the system if required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    You'll have to thread the hose through before connecting the Connectamajig once the hose is out the top of the seat tube. This will give you the option of removing the seatpost a few times without need to bleed the system if required.
    Thank you Keith, no problem!

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    I've read just about this entire thread and I think its Awesome that Keith quickly reply's and is very helpful.

    I Just bought a second hand, size Large Rune Frame w/26" dropouts. Im 5'-10.5" w/ 34" inseam, hope it fits good..

    Trying to sell my 13" Transition Covert 26 frame to pay for it, loved the covert but just wanted to try a different frame. First impressioin of holding the Rune frame is "beefy" Hopefully I can get the weight to 31/32lbs without a fortune.

    Looking to put the CC DBair CS shock on it.

    couple of opinions wanted.. Should I go 27.5 with it?? is it worth the cost to change? or save the money and stick with 26"

    I have a Rockshox Lyrik RC2l 160mm from the covert, that I like. Just replaced all seals/oil/rings on it.. however Id have to sell it at a big loss and buy a 27.5 capable fork.. But I could also get a lighter fork as well.. Xfusion sweep or a Pike.. but are those too light??

    I already sold the wheels from the covert so, I will be buying a new wheelset anyways.. Might as well make the switch??

    a lot of my riding with this bike will be local trails, one imparticular (beacon hill) where I ride up a 1.5 mile climb and then descend on what is basically a few small DH courses, lots of jumps/drops into another short climb to do the courses again. So all of the downs are earned basically.

    here is a great vid showing some great features of beacon hill
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    Nice lookin frame! You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. I am sold... I have a super clean ZTR Flow set I briefly had on my Rune I can sell you. I built a carbon wheelset is why I am selling. PM me if interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    Nice lookin frame! You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. I am sold... I have a super clean ZTR Flow set I briefly had on my Rune I can sell you. I built a carbon wheelset is why I am selling. PM me if interested!
    I saw that on pb, I follow you, creepy i know.. haha. Id buy them if I can get my Covert frame sold.. I am tapt out for bike money atm..

    Ya I wish I didnt have to re-fork up but I probably will try the 27.5..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    ... couple of opinions wanted.. Should I go 27.5 with it?? is it worth the cost to change? or save the money and stick with 26" ...
    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    ... You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. ...
    Riding a Spitfire, and startet with 26 and switched to 650B/27.5 I would double socalMXs quote. Since then all the 26-Stuff is collecting Dust and remains unused.
    I think Money is a big Factor for most of us, but getting a 650B-Fork by Time means you can easily go with both Wheelsizes anyway. Depending on the Forks A-to-C the Geometry would not be off too much, maybe 10 mm taller = 0,5 Deg slacker HA, but you would be ready for whatīs coming in the Future.

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    Fox Float X vs. CC DBair CS on the Rune?

    also, looking to save some weight and go 27.5 from the 26" RS lyrik that I have now..

    Fox 34 float good match? Is it noticeably less stiff/burly than a Lyrik?

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    Re: Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    Fox Float X vs. CC DBair CS on the Rune?

    also, looking to save some weight and go 27.5 from the 26" RS lyrik that I have now..

    Fox 34 float good match? Is it noticeably less stiff/burly than a Lyrik?
    DBAir and PIKE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    DBAir and PIKE!
    Ya, I hear ya.. My bank account just doesnt agree with both of them.. Im looking at a used fox 34. then in the least I can send it to PUSH and still be under a new fox/pike and probably have a better fork.

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    Fox 34with AVA, then

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    Rune V2 2014 Build Complete

    My new Rune V2 is complete!

    This beast has absolutely blown away my expectations. It pedals great with the relatively light build and CCDBA CS shock, and descends like a mini downhill bike! Previously had a Mojo HD for 3 years and there is no comparison...

    Running the 26 inch Dropouts in lowest setting with HRII 27.5 Tyres (just enough clearance) to keep the chainstays short.

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    Havoc Carbon Bars
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    Thanks to Ben at Singletracks in Australia for providing great service and supplying the Frame.
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    SICK! Whats it weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Thanks to Ben at Singletracks in Australia for providing great service and supplying the Frame.
    Ben's quite good to deal with, bought my rune off him too.

    Bike looks great, nice and stealthy.

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    Had my Rune now for 9 months, overall very happy with it. Perhaps a should have gotten an XL frame (LEV is at max height), but after coming from a firebird it feels pretty roomy. The firebird in my experience has better suspension - it was nothing short of amazing, but the rune has more playful nature, I couldn't manual the firebird at all, I can and do manual the rune constantly, it's a lot of fun to ride.

    Rune V2 Large
    Lyrik 170mm RC2DH solo
    Hope + Flow Ex's
    Formula RO + Hope rotors - these things are an amazing brake.
    KS LEV
    XT drivetrain 1x10 + RF narrow wide 30t
    65mm Havoc Stem + Carbon havoc bars
    Hans Dampf / Nobby Nic tubeless combo

    Around 13.4kg - my scale are a little out I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uphill=sad View Post
    Had my Rune now for 9 months, overall very happy with it. Perhaps a should have gotten an XL frame (LEV is at max height), but after coming from a firebird it feels pretty roomy.
    How tall are you? What is your inseam?

    Do you think going to the XL would make it less playful?

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    Rune size Large Weight

    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    SICK! Whats it weigh?

    Just weighed it with very accurate calibrated scales. 13.6kg (just scrapes in under 30lb!) as pictured including the 0.41kg XT pedals.

    Feels really well balanced and confidence inspiring, certainly doesn't feel heavy..

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    Dravs, That is one BaDa$$ machine!! Under 30lbs is impressive with how its set up. That gives me hope for mine.

    I just bought a used 2013 fox 34 160 float ctd (trail adjust) last night locally for 450 bucks. Ill send it in to fox for the 14' damper upgrade. Ive got spikes oozy evo 27.5" rims laced to Chris king hubs and Hans Dampf/racing ralph rubber coming. I plan on the CCdbair CS shock as well, how do you like yours? although if I find a Fox X float for a good used price id probably settle for that. Now I gotta save up for a crank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    Fox 34with AVA, then
    That damper looks pretty rad.. However it is not inexpensive, it would cost 20 dollars less than I just paid for my used fox 34 fork.. although it would still be cheaper than a new 2014 model and WAY better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Just weighed it with very accurate calibrated scales. 13.6kg (just scrapes in under 30lb!) as pictured including the 0.41kg XT pedals.

    Feels really well balanced and confidence inspiring, certainly doesn't feel heavy..

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    really nice!
    Did you get just the frame kit from Ben or also the pikes? Where did you buy it in oz?
    thanks

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    my rune is 29 pounds and i think i can lower to 27 pounds is a medium frame

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    Unfortunately to get a Rune down to 27lbs you would have to sacrifice so much running wimpy wheels/tires no dropper and spend a ton of money doing it. Will not make sense for what the bike is intended. 29lbs is about the low and just fine.

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    yea i was just saying i like the bike the way i have but my bike have a rockshox stealth reverb that is 500 something grams is twice than a normal carbon seatpost and 530 grams pedal my other bike the pedal are 275g but that is with my racing tires not with the my gravity tires that weight 2 pounds more loool

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    @Uphill=sad

    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?

    I'm running RO's with the plain 180mm Formula rotors f+r and really love the power and feel of the brakes but I'd like to get some floating rotors, the Formula versions are prohibitively expensive. Are you using the Formula adapters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILVMTB View Post
    How tall are you? What is your inseam?

    Do you think going to the XL would make it less playful?
    My inseam is just on 38 inches barefoot, I'm quite tall in the legs. I think if I was on a XL I'd run a 50mm stem instead of a 65mm stem, I find the 65 better for both keeping the front down on climbs and fast flat corners. A XL would probably offer that by default. I would love to ride an XL just to see what I may and may not be missing out on. I like slow technical riding, the large does fit really naturally for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RollingRevolution View Post
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    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?

    I'm running RO's with the plain 180mm Formula rotors f+r and really love the power and feel of the brakes but I'd like to get some floating rotors, the Formula versions are prohibitively expensive. Are you using the Formula adapters?
    No problems at all with clearance, lots of people seem to have clearance problems with The Ones in years gone by. Using formula adapters, I'm not sure I notice a performance increase or much change in the feel of the breaks at all, I went to hope rotors after buying some for the Mrs Turner, they are really, really nice rotors. I also warped a two formula rotors - I think it's the 'minimal' bolt attachment area that caused this. They are a little heavier if your the type of person who would kill puppies to save a few grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingRevolution View Post
    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?
    Just had a closer look and took a couple of pictures, certainly is close, but having a look for rub marks on the spider, it's not ever rubbed - it's also about the same clearance as on the Lyrik.

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Yeap that is close but if it's not touching it's not touching. Thanks for taking the trouble to take the photos. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cicot View Post
    really nice!
    Did you get just the frame kit from Ben or also the pikes? Where did you buy it in oz?
    thanks

    Yeah I just got the frame from Ben, he really went out of his way to sort me out. I got the Pike from bike24 in Germany.

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    The CCDBA is unreal, in combination with the KSlink it feels way better than anything I have ridden before. It just eats up the rocky drops to flat that I ride with no harsh bottom out. Cant compare to a Float X, never ridden one, but I'm sure that they are good too.

    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.
    What aren't you enjoying regarding the 27.5 or perhaps what were you expecting from 27.5? Unless you already have the wheels the cost to swap wheel sizes isn't a resounding endorsement to 27.5.

    Secondly wondering why more manufacturers aren't making bikes with interchangeable 26/27.5 dropouts, it gives us the consumer more options - manufacturing costs? geometry changes?

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    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.[/QUOTE]

    Same here, I just went back to 26, I tried 27.5 for 2 months, but I missed to much my 180 mm 36 talas ... I never tried the more dh setting on 27.5, and maybe that was a mistake ...
    My bike with 27.5 was lighter do to the fork and tires (I have lighter tires and wheelsets on 27.5) and it does pedal a lot more easy, but I was running ahead of my riding friends on the way up, and with 26 we are closer.

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    does anyone know what brand headset is stock on the rune v2's? The guy I bought the frame from included the headset but didnt send the crown race. I went to 3 local bike shops today looking for a 1.5 crown race and Zero luck..

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    Dravs, what do you like about the Rune over the Mojo? I've only been on a Mojo once, but loved it. Wish Utah had a Banshee dealer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uphill=sad View Post
    What aren't you enjoying regarding the 27.5 or perhaps what were you expecting from 27.5? Unless you already have the wheels the cost to swap wheel sizes isn't a resounding endorsement to 27.5.

    Secondly wondering why more manufacturers aren't making bikes with interchangeable 26/27.5 dropouts, it gives us the consumer more options - manufacturing costs? geometry changes?

    The Rune does seem to pedal a bit better in 275 mode with the same HR II tyres, and my Havoc 26 wheels weigh almost the same as the 275 Spline One. But it feels a little more like a 29'er than I was expecting. A lot of the reviews claimed that they couldn't tell the difference between 26 and 275, but it definitely has lost some of its willingness to get airborne and a little slower to react. It might just take a bit of getting used to how it feels, I have only had a couple rides.

    Because I have already got the wheels I will probably swap back and forth. Use the 27.5 for more trail type riding and the 26 for light Downhill/ Bikepark stuff. Ill do some Enduro timed runs and see how they compare. Feels like the 275 might be faster and more forgiving but not as fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    The Rune does seem to pedal a bit better in 275 mode with the same HR II tyres, and my Havoc 26 wheels weigh almost the same as the 275 Spline One. But it feels a little more like a 29'er than I was expecting. A lot of the reviews claimed that they couldn't tell the difference between 26 and 275, but it definitely has lost some of its willingness to get airborne and a little slower to react. It might just take a bit of getting used to how it feels, I have only had a couple rides.

    Because I have already got the wheels I will probably swap back and forth. Use the 27.5 for more trail type riding and the 26 for light Downhill/ Bikepark stuff. Ill do some Enduro timed runs and see how they compare. Feels like the 275 might be faster and more forgiving but not as fun...
    Give it several rides & look to take advantage of the wheel size. Once you get used to it, slap the 26" wheels back on and that is when you will see. I did this and couldn't believe how slow the smaller wheel felt, not just pedaling flat either. 27.5 is where its at for a reason, if it were false claims it would have died off quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeboardorblade View Post
    Dravs, what do you like about the Rune over the Mojo? I've only been on a Mojo once, but loved it. Wish Utah had a Banshee dealer!

    I think that they are completely different bikes. The Rune doesn't have that sit up and propel you forward feeling when you jump on the pedals that the HD did, but the Rune still pedals well. I do use the CS on long fire road climbs that I wouldn't have bothered with on the Mojo.

    The Rune is far superior on the descents, with the extra reach to move your weight around and the 2 deg slacker head angle makes a massive difference. It is way more stable and less skittery than the shorter and taller HD and the suspension feels much deeper and ridiculously capable.

    What has surprised me most is that it has lost nothing up technical climbs and steps, I think that the slack HA doesn't climb thinking is nonsense. the only time I have noticed it is slow technical descents where you are picking your way down rock bridges, its more inclined to flop to the side rather than steer, but just requires better balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    does anyone know what brand headset is stock on the rune v2's? The guy I bought the frame from included the headset but didnt send the crown race. I went to 3 local bike shops today looking for a 1.5 crown race and Zero luck..
    If it's a Banshee headset then this might help you...

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

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    Forks > Xfusion Metric - Internaly adjusted down to 160mm
    Shock > CCDB Air CS
    Headset > Hope
    Brakes > Saint M820
    Bars > Answer Pro Taper DH
    Grips > ODI SDG Hansolo - Green
    SeatPost > RockShox Reverb
    Cranks > Saint M820
    ChainRing > RaceFace Narrow Wide
    Pedals > Saint
    Shifter > Saint
    Rear Deralleur > Zee
    Wheelset > Hope Pro Evo 2 / Stans Flow
    Tyres > Schwalbe - Hans Dampf
    Weight > 15.4 kg
    Last edited by dzdale; 12-23-2013 at 07:15 AM.

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