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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_daugherty View Post
    I'm actually a big fan of the 40 headset, have one on my legend and one of my wildcard and my girlfriend has one on her Rune. All of them have been great for us. Maybe you just got a lemon.

    For weight, i'm estimating that the large will be just over 8.5lbs w/ a CCDBa. My goal is 30lbs or under with an adjustable post and 2ply tires. Wish me luck.
    I always jived well with 40 series as well, but were EC lowers. Zerostack 40 bearing with wet and dirty riding won't last I am afraid. You can get a 110 lower cup zerostack for a good price at Universal . Good luck with the weight, pretty ambitious especially with DH tread and dropper post. Heading to Blackrock in a few
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    I always jived well with 40 series as well, but were EC lowers. Zerostack 40 bearing with wet and dirty riding won't last I am afraid. You can get a 110 lower cup zerostack for a good price at Universal . Good luck with the weight, pretty ambitious especially with DH tread and dropper post. Heading to Blackrock in a few
    I went 110 in mine also, 40 series has very short life expectancy in the PNW

    Jon let us know how the Rune performs, thinking about your ride report from yesterday. I think the slacker HA on v2 is probably why you may have leaned towards the V1 for better climbing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_daugherty View Post
    I'm actually a big fan of the 40 headset, have one on my legend and one of my wildcard and my girlfriend has one on her Rune. All of them have been great for us. Maybe you just got a lemon.

    For weight, i'm estimating that the large will be just over 8.5lbs w/ a CCDBa. My goal is 30lbs or under with an adjustable post and 2ply tires. Wish me luck.
    Sorry mate but you are going to need more than good luck

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    Just received the Flouro Yellow color. It's LOUD. Looks great.


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    Uaaahhhh, that´s so awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    I always jived well with 40 series as well, but were EC lowers. Zerostack 40 bearing with wet and dirty riding won't last I am afraid. You can get a 110 lower cup zerostack for a good price at Universal . Good luck with the weight, pretty ambitious especially with DH tread and dropper post. Heading to Blackrock in a few
    i've had ok luck with 40 series headsets. when i get them though, i fully clean the stock grease out and re-grease with a high quality bearing grease i get from work. it's made for extreme wet applications. so far they have held up well with this treatment, external and internal style and it's a lot cheaper than 110 or chris king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemech23 View Post
    Just received the Flouro Yellow color. It's LOUD. Looks great.

    I thought they were only going to be available in Blue, Black and Raw. That looks sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    I went 110 in mine also, 40 series has very short life expectancy in the PNW

    Jon let us know how the Rune performs, thinking about your ride report from yesterday. I think the slacker HA on v2 is probably why you may have leaned towards the V1 for better climbing.




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    Alright, after today's ride at Blackrock can easily say this bike totally rips! Was still getting use to the taller and slacker front end while climbing since I was unable to drop the fork down like i usually do on the steep grinds due to blown adjustable fork last week. The bike did seem to climb better the more I went up the hill though and really shined on all the fun freeridey descents. Was able to hit stuff higher, farther, and harder than on my SB just the week prior at same locale. Conditions were pretty spectacular up ther today though. Most fun I had at Blackrock to date, mostly due to bike. The V2 does feel like a true AM/FR machine than the previous model as well. Pretty happy with the bike now as just general somewhat flat trail riding like I did yesterday wasn't enough for it. Had so much fun today that I pretty much rode continuously for at least 4 hours with multiple times up to the top. Great job with design and execution Keith, Jay and Banshee!
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    Finally got the Large Ano black Rune built up. I can't wait to get this bike up to black rock!
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    It will like BR very much as I just came back from there for first time with Rune. Perfect bike for the place as it allows to get multiple runs in with minimal effort.
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    Took my Rune 2 on a bit of an adventure over Christmas weekend here in Taiwan. Such an amazingly versatile bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    I always jived well with 40 series as well, but were EC lowers. Zerostack 40 bearing with wet and dirty riding won't last I am afraid. You can get a 110 lower cup zerostack for a good price at Universal . Good luck with the weight, pretty ambitious especially with DH tread and dropper post. Heading to Blackrock in a few
    I only ride the zero stack 40 headsets and all have lasted since they were released and I ride in the PNW. Opinions appreciated but I'll stick with what has worked with me.

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    Does anyone have the stand over height with 650b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by general lee View Post
    Took my Rune 2 on a bit of an adventure over Christmas weekend here in Taiwan. Such an amazingly versatile bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resnick View Post
    Does anyone have the stand over height with 650b?
    Here’s the same bike with 26” and 650b dropouts and wheels. I don’t have an accurate measurement, but it “feels” about 10mm higher. Note that I haven’t dropped the travel on the Lyrik to 150mm yet, so some of the rise is from that...

    Edit: well, there's two images when I preview the post, but just one when I save it...
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    the missing 650b image...
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    Quote Originally Posted by belljeffw View Post
    the missing 650b image...
    What kind of clearance between the arch and the tire are you getting with the Lyrik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belljeffw View Post
    Here’s the same bike with 26” and 650b dropouts and wheels.
    belljeffw, did you ever try to put the 650b rear wheel on the 26er dropout? Just my curiosity, but I'd be interested in knowing if there would be enough clearance for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    belljeffw, did you ever try to put the 650b rear wheel on the 26er dropout? Just my curiosity, but I'd be interested in knowing if there would be enough clearance for it.
    No, unfortunately I ordered the 135X10 dropouts for the 26" wheels, and didn't have the hub spacers to adapt my 650b rear wheel. My memory of how close a fit it was makes me think you would have problems using the 26" dropouts with 650b wheels, but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    What kind of clearance between the arch and the tire are you getting with the Lyrik?
    It's a little under 1/4" (6mm). Slogging through deep mud might be a problem : )




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    @ ptd:
    Awesome Rune
    Are these the 2.25 or 2.35 Hans Dampf? Could you please measure the Clearance between Tire and Yokes/Chain- Seatstays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemech23 View Post
    Just received the Flouro Yellow color. It's LOUD. Looks great.
    frikkin awesome. means mine can't be TOO far away. better get onto getting my 650 wheels built up!

    shame it didn't make it for my trip to queenstown this weekend but I didn't build up my hopes that it would so all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    All SRAM S3 offering work with good clearance.
    so i picked up my spitfire frame today. down at the lbs, looking through a local distributor's website, trying to figure out which front derailleur to order. unfortunately we couldn't rely on the catalogue or the website - the descriptions and part numbers the distributor listed didn't line up with either the shimano or sram website. so, looking for clarity, we headed over to the crc website - surely they'd have an accurate run down of the different front derailleur standards?



    but no - while i've been told by everyone in the know that i need an s3 derailleur for my frame, crc is telling me i need an s2, as the drl mounting holes on the frame are clearly offset as described above under spec 2. so, assuming keith is right, since i can't get one through my lbs, do i order a s2 derailleur, assuming crc got their descriptions mixed up? or an s3, assuming their internal processes are right even if the website copy got goofed

    what a ****ing mess
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    I may be able to help as I purchased a spec 3 X0 from CRC, for this very job, and it has the offset holes. (as per the description for the spec 2 above)

    I have it in front of me

    i can take a pic if it helps with the packaging.

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    Keith is right (of course). You do need a S3. CRC's product description has been wrong about this for at least a year. I went through this buying a S3 for my Prime, and I remember realizing that I needed to ignore CRC.
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    thanks guys. to be clear, i'm railing here not against the design of the spitfire but (again) against the idiocy of the mtb industry:



    8 different slx front derailleurs... are you ****ing kidding me? and that doesn't include the god-knows-how-many road bike standards there are
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    thanks guys. to be clear, i'm railing here not against the design of the spitfire but (again) against the idiocy of the mtb industry:



    8 different slx front derailleurs... are you ****ing kidding me? and that doesn't include the god-knows-how-many road bike standards there are
    Haha, welcome to my world!

    I wonder how many other industries think a standard is something that they can apply to any new design they feel like coming up with, rather than something that should be thought through very carfeully in the first place, and stuck to by all manufacturers to make life easier for veryone including customers. Standards in this industry tend to just be made up by big companies to make more money if you ask me! (not that I'm bitter! haha). That said, I think the S3 standard is best all round for clearance reasons.

    Yeah, CRC have the spec wrong, they have S2 and S3 swapped round the wrong way... which isn't very helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    ... That said, I think the S3 standard is best all round for clearance reasons ...
    I can confirm this. Installation is a No-Brainer and Clearance everywhere!
    I´m a Shimano-Guy for many Years, but first Time switched to a SRAM X0/S3/36-22T/Bottom-Pull Frontmech for my Spitfire, because I want Things go easy and free of Trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Yeah, CRC have the spec wrong, they have S2 and S3 swapped round the wrong way... which isn't very helpful.
    CRC actually have one of the clearer descriptions of the different mounts I've found - it's a shame it's backwards...

    Quote Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    8 different slx front derailleurs... are you ****ing kidding me? and that doesn't include the god-knows-how-many road bike standards there are
    If you think that's bad, look at SRAM's lineup. I really had trouble hunting down the one I needed last year. SRAM also has multiple cage sizes for different chainring ranges. How does anyone maintain that kind of inventory? The answer turned out to be that they don't. Maybe it's better now that their 10 speed drivetrains have been on the market for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    Fun!
    Nice!!

    Are you running a 10spd chain on the XX1 cranks and chainring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rednova75 View Post
    Nice!!

    Are you running a 10spd chain on the XX1 cranks and chainring?
    I went xx1 chain because of the alleged longer life / stronger..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    I went xx1 chain because of the alleged longer life / stronger..
    Correct me If I'm wrong but are you running a 10spd cassette and saint rear der.? How is that meshing with the XX1 chain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rednova75 View Post
    Correct me If I'm wrong but are you running a 10spd cassette and saint rear der.? How is that meshing with the XX1 chain?
    That's right, working fine so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
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    Are these the 2.25 or 2.35 Hans Dampf? Could you please measure the Clearance between Tire and Yokes/Chain- Seatstays?
    2.35 Hans Dampf.
    Seat stay 14mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    2.35 Hans Dampf.
    ]Seat stay 14mm
    Seat stay bridge 15mm
    Chain stay 15mm
    Chain stay bridge 16mm
    Big clearance everywhere. Makes me really curious about running 650B wheel in the 26" dropouts. I'd be totally fine chopping 10mm off those bold measurments and having shorter 650B dropouts. Am I the only one who thinks the 650B drops are fugly?
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    Breaking her in!

    From my second ride last weekend on the V2. Very much digging the feel of it on the trail, especially in the neutral setting w/160 fork.

    Ride On!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    Still waiting on my front deraileur and chain so figured I would post in the meantime

    Plan to swap out wheels and run my I9 DH set also

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    very very nice
    but how can it be this frame does not have the ugly welding between the top tube and the seat tube?
    Thanks

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    That is some f'in beautiful riding, man.

    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    From my second ride last weekend on the V2. Very much digging the feel of it on the trail, especially in the neutral setting w/160 fork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    2.35 Hans Dampf.
    Seat stay 14mm
    Seat stay bridge 15mm
    Chain stay 15mm
    Chain stay bridge 16mm
    Thank you very much. This is massiv Clearance.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Big clearance everywhere. Makes me really curious about running 650B wheel in the 26" dropouts. I'd be totally fine chopping 10mm off those bold measurments and having shorter 650B dropouts. Am I the only one who thinks the 650B drops are fugly?
    That was my first Thought too.
    Seriously: If this Clearance is offered on the Spitfire too, than there should be no big Problem to go with Hans Dampf 2.25/2.35 and 26 Dropouts.
    But no - I don´t think the 650B Dropouts are fugly. I have both 26 and 650B 142x12 and the Difference is right about 10 mm in Lenght. Visually hard to set appart.

    @ All, just for the Interest:
    I´m running mostly 2 Tires - Maxxis Highroller II 2.4 and Onza Ibex FR 2.25. Both great Tires, like them a lot!
    Yesterday I got Feedback from Onza Tires. They are testing a Ibex FR 650B 2.4 Version. Launch is planned in April/May. A Ibex FR 2.25 for 650B is planned too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meekkho View Post
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    very very nice
    but how can it be this frame does not have the ugly welding between the top tube and the seat tube?
    Thanks
    There is nothing ugly about the welding, but there is no brace on the small frame size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    From my second ride last weekend on the V2. Very much digging the feel of it on the trail, especially in the neutral setting w/160 fork.

    , wish we had stuff and dirt like that down here in arid AZ. Nice riding! Oh we have some stuff .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    From my second ride last weekend on the V2. Very much digging the feel of it on the trail, especially in the neutral setting w/160 fork.

    that was very nice. trails look great for january. i have to get out to oregon sometime, i love that type of terrain. the dirt looks beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    that was very nice. trails look great for january. i have to get out to oregon sometime, i love that type of terrain. the dirt looks beautiful
    Thanks, was only my third time riding there in many years since having kids as it is almost 2hrs each way from home. Was the perfect storm for great dirt riding conditions that day for sure with dry, fast, yet tacky conditions. Now, we are back to the usual 40 degree wet, slop-like conditions, which makes me dream of AZ or other SW riding. Sedona in 6 weeks though, can't wait to see how the V2 digs the terrain at red rock country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    From my second ride last weekend on the V2. Very much digging the feel of it on the trail, especially in the neutral setting w/160 fork.

    Bonzai is looking good. Riding this weekend?

    I just swapped my WTB Bronsons for my Minion DHF's. I like the Bronsons a lot but with the thin single ply I cant run them at the pressures I like with out burping them. Burped them twice at Sandy last Sunday. The DHF's are the single ply Exo's but the sidewalls are far more substantial. Plus the DHF's corner better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Thanks, was only my third time riding there in many years since having kids as it is almost 2hrs each way from home. Was the perfect storm for great dirt riding conditions that day for sure with dry, fast, yet tacky conditions. Now, we are back to the usual 40 degree wet, slop-like conditions, which makes me dream of AZ or other SW riding. Sedona in 6 weeks though, can't wait to see how the V2 digs the terrain at red rock country!
    Shred sedonuts all the time, an hr away. Give us a hoot if you need some trail hookup while there. Also, the Dells are close by .
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Bonzai is looking good. Riding this weekend?

    I just swapped my WTB Bronsons for my Minion DHF's. I like the Bronsons a lot but with the thin single ply I cant run them at the pressures I like with out burping them. Burped them twice at Sandy last Sunday. The DHF's are the single ply Exo's but the sidewalls are far more substantial. Plus the DHF's corner better.
    Hopefully this Sunday, will be a little wet, but shouldn't be too bad. Have bad cold right now, but still riding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by helimech View Post
    Shred sedonuts all the time, an hr away. Give us a hoot if you need some trail hookup while there. Also, the Dells are close by .
    Thanks, will do. Will be arriving solo for work stuff as well, but should have some good opportunities to ride as this will be my third time down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Big clearance everywhere. Makes me really curious about running 650B wheel in the 26" dropouts. I'd be totally fine chopping 10mm off those bold measurments and having shorter 650B dropouts. Am I the only one who thinks the 650B drops are fugly?
    I second that

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