• 01-04-2013
    mudpuppy
    What headset for a straight 1 1/8 steerer?
  • 01-04-2013
    Dogboy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mudpuppy View Post
    What headset for a straight 1 1/8 steerer?

    ZS44 top/ZS56 lower with a 30mm crown race.
  • 01-04-2013
    mudpuppy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    ZS44 top/ZS56 lower with a 30mm crown race.

    Thank you. :)
  • 01-04-2013
    Hikers Only
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    I just have to say how much this bike rocks!!! So far I have ridden it at our local freeride and jump trail to a 35 mile, 5500 feet ride, and it has handled everything. When pointed DH its way faster than the V1 to the point where i scared myself a little as I wasn't expecting it:eekster:

    Thank you Banshee:thumbsup:
  • 01-04-2013
    juanbeegas
    These new Runes are really making me envious. They're all looking really really good!
  • 01-04-2013
    murrayf
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    starting my build tonight...
  • 01-05-2013
    Haus Boss
    Sorry, posting one more time. My first round of pix didn't turn out so well. I like this one:

  • 01-05-2013
    Hikers Only
    That's a sweet picture!!
  • 01-05-2013
    murrayf
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    Finished the build today. First ride tomorrow. Quick spin round the house and I instantly noticed waaaay less pedal bob. Size wise the large feels great, I always felt too cramped on my V1 Medium. I'll throw on a 50mm stem, 2012 XT brakes and a lighter wheelset and it should be perfect. The raw metal under clearcoat looks amazing in the daylight and the whole frame right down to the pivot axles is on a new level of finesse compared to the V1. Big thanks to Keith@Banshee and Zac@Trident for helping sort me out.
  • 01-06-2013
    AdrianoMTB
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    Hi guys!!

    Wow, nearly 25 pages of runes thoughts!!! Really Like it!!! So after 2 months using the bike and handle it in any possible conditions (Including bikepark session)... I have to say... THIS IS THE BIKE!!!

    BRUTAL....

    I want to show yours my Rune with 2 different builds.

    1. DH Configuration ( I have the vivid coil waiting for a K9 spring so.. figure out the bike with the coil... see the slack angles and how the bike appears.... itīs a killer bike! ) (About 16 kilos)

    Attachment 750977
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    2. Enduro configuration... 14,2 kilos Simply the perfect enduro bike!!

    Attachment 750979
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    Thanks keith for design a bike for the hard bikers :thumbsup:
  • 01-07-2013
    DaWiseNuthatch
    Hello AdrianoMTB,

    I see you are not using a front derailleur here? Why do you do that? Is the single 36 ring enough? I'd appreciate advice on that, because most of the riders here in Russia say you need a front derailleur on a mid-travel bike, whereas one American guy I know who's been riding for all his life says it's only required when "climbing trees".

    I'd also appreciate it if you shared your experience wrt installing the LG1+ guide in combination with the XT triple crankset. Do the small ring tabs get in the way of the chain guide backplate? Did you have to grind them off?

    Also, how are the XT cranks holding up in downhill? Any chance to break them?

    Other than that, I have to say you guys must be crazy professional. I see lots of CCDB's and even some BOS shocks in this thread, that's crazy expensive, there must be some real reason to spend that much on professional hardware.
  • 01-07-2013
    ptd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DaWiseNuthatch View Post
    Hello AdrianoMTB,

    I see you are not using a front derailleur here? Why do you do that? Is the single 36 ring enough? I'd appreciate advice on that, because most of the riders here in Russia say you need a front derailleur on a mid-travel bike, whereas one American guy I know who's been riding for all his life says it's only required when "climbing trees".

    I find a 2 tooth smaller chainring to largest rear cog is enough for me. I'm running 34T front 11-36 back. When I'm fit I've found 36T front 11-36 back enough. Riding the same trails, my friend uses 2x front with 11-36, he wouldn't consider a single front. So it depends what you like/fitness/style.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DaWiseNuthatch View Post
    Other than that, I have to say you guys must be crazy professional. I see lots of CCDB's and even some BOS shocks in this thread, that's crazy expensive, there must be some real reason to spend that much on professional hardware.

    It seems from this thread there are lots of enthusiasts who have chosen the frame/gear becuase it's fun. My situation is after 20+ years of mtb'ing it's a luxury to have stuff like the CCDB and this frame, it's replacing 2 bikes, and it's fun...
  • 01-07-2013
    AdrianoMTB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DaWiseNuthatch View Post
    Hello AdrianoMTB,

    I see you are not using a front derailleur here? Why do you do that? Is the single 36 ring enough? I'd appreciate advice on that, because most of the riders here in Russia say you need a front derailleur on a mid-travel bike, whereas one American guy I know who's been riding for all his life says it's only required when "climbing trees".

    I'd also appreciate it if you shared your experience wrt installing the LG1+ guide in combination with the XT triple crankset. Do the small ring tabs get in the way of the chain guide backplate? Did you have to grind them off?

    Also, how are the XT cranks holding up in downhill? Any chance to break them?

    Other than that, I have to say you guys must be crazy professional. I see lots of CCDB's and even some BOS shocks in this thread, that's crazy expensive, there must be some real reason to spend that much on professional hardware.

    Hello DaWiseNuthatch (good nick :D)

    Iīm not using a front dérailleur in the Rune cause my local trails and the ways where I use to go up with the bike (mostly of them are wide semi roads) are not very technical in the uphill.. just go with good cadence and good fitness level. Obviously itīs not my first time with 1 ring in the front.. so my body is habituate to run with this kind gear.

    Anyway the most important thing is how your fitness level are, so itīs depend on your capacity to maintain this kind of gears, in my case until now Iīm able to move that gears but I use to train 4 days a week plus the weekend route... probably the day I expend only 1 or 2 days with the bike I will build 2 rings again or the SRAM XX1 :thumbsup:

    My combination in the bike is 11-36 in the rear and a 30t in front. not complex and specially physical.

    The combination with the e-thirrteen LG1 and the 30T ring are awesome, no issues and the chain line is fine so, good.

    In the downhill the cranks performance are perfect to be honest, no issues, no scare about brake it.. just fine again

    About the thread of shocks like the CCDBīs or BOS or something like that.. I do not know the case of our partners but in my case I had a Ibis mojo hd later and a DH bike so I decided to reduced them in only 1.. the Rune... so itīs perfect, thatīs why most people of this forum have this amazing builds on their Runes.

    Cheers!
  • 01-08-2013
    knumbskull
    BOOM. Its been a long time in the works:

  • 01-08-2013
    stunzeed
    Those who ordered a CCDBa, did you have to order a special tune shock for the Rune?
  • 01-08-2013
    Haus Boss
    You can find the base tune here: Cane Creek DBAIR Suspension Base Tunes
  • 01-09-2013
    Mishtar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    Those who ordered a CCDBa, did you have to order a special tune shock for the Rune?

    Kieth posted this earlier. Notice he recommends one large volume spacer.

    builttoride
    mtbr member


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Any more info on the internal spacers? I ask because the frame warrantys are only available from Trident with the Fox Float or no shock, so if I wanted to buy a CCDB air and get the HV can just wondering what internal spacers i would need.

    Rune spec for the DBair is Xvol can with 1 large volume spacer. Base settings are as follows:

    LSR - 14 clicks in
    LSC - 10 clicks in
    HSR - 2 turns in
    HSC - 2 turns in
  • 01-09-2013
    jgusta
    V2 build specs
    Frame just arrived the other day! Everything looks good with exception of BB shell that looks like it needs to be faced/chased. Now just waiting for the 142x12 dropouts/axle as I was sent the wrong ones from Trident (135xQR) with frame initially, then it's build time and hope to take it out for it's maiden voyage this time next week!

    FRAME: Banshee Rune V2 Medium
    SHOCK: Rockshox Monarch RC3+ HV low tune
    FORK: Rockshox Lyrik DH RC2 160 air
    WHEELS: Stans Flow EX/Hadley hubs
    FRONT TIRE: Specialized Butcher Control 2.3
    REAR TIRE: Specialized Purgatory UST 2.3
    HEADSET: Cane Creek 110 zerostack
    STEM: Thomson X4 50mm
    BARS: Chromag OSX gold 780mm
    GRIPS: ODI Troy Lee Designs
    BRAKES: Shimano Saint 180/160
    DRIVETRAIN: Shimano Saint cranks w/Blackspire 36/24 rings + bash (2x9), Saint RD/shifters, XT FD, SRAM 990 cassette/991 Hollowpin chain
    BOTTOM BRACKET: Shimano Saint
    PEDALS: Crankbrothers Mallet 2
    SEAT POST: Thomson 410mm, KindShock Supernatural 150 when needed
    SEAT: Chromag Trailmaster DT
  • 01-10-2013
    builttoride
    The frame shouldn't need faced (everything is faced chased and reamed before leaving the factory), although sometimes on painted frames it looks a little like it might be required due to the weld around the ISCG. If in doubt you can send me a photo and I'll confirm keith@bansheebikes.com.
  • 01-10-2013
    helimech
    1 Attachment(s)
    Just got done building this LG up. Went with the LG air reducer sleeve in the can, hope that helps but not sure it needed it. Hitting the Dells tomorrow for its 1st romp and see how it handles. Feels very nimble around the hood, kinda like a SC Blur? Comes in at 32.5lbs. Cant wait for the romp.
  • 01-10-2013
    belljeffw
    For anyone waiting on the 650b dropouts...

    I called Trident today and they had apparently dropped that part of my order, since they didn't have any when the frame shipped. I was told they have "a few" in stock with more to come by the middle of February, and I had to give him my CC number again. It was pretty clear they wouldn't have sent the rest of my order if I hadn't called back. So if you're waiting for dropouts, give them a call...
  • 01-10-2013
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The frame shouldn't need faced (everything is faced chased and reamed before leaving the factory), although sometimes on painted frames it looks a little like it might be required due to the weld around the ISCG. If in doubt you can send me a photo and I'll confirm keith@bansheebikes.com.

    Yeah, the BB area doesn't look like it needs to be faced/chased at all when looking at BB shell face head on. It's only when you run your finger over the face of BB shell surface that it your fingers catches a bit of material protruding off the rim of the shell from the inner threads, making the shell face not totally flush or smooth feeling. I never had to have a new frame faced before or really know what determines if so, just curious as it doesn't feel totally smooth and flush at the face and wondering if it will impact BB install at all? Myself and a friend were going to do the build this weeekend, but going to have favorite LBS frame builder do it instead and sure he will be able to make that determination. Probably shoot you an up close pick as well just to make sure too.
    Thx Keith,
    Jon
  • 01-10-2013
    jgusta
    Awesomeness! Still loving the blue very much even though I went polished raw with mine. Let us know how the ride goes.
  • 01-11-2013
    Resnick
    Got my Raw frame a week ago. I'm going to start building Feb 15th

    Build is as follows so far
    Med Rune W/ Fox CTD and 142 rear axle
    2013 Talas RC2 Factory
    Stans Laced to hope evo2
    RF Atlas Cranks
    Nuke proof bars and stem
    2010 Saint Shifter pods
    SLX Front D (if it fits)
    2011 Saint 9 Speed D
    New Saint Pedals
    2013 Saint Brakes.
    reverb
    Chromag Trail master LTD

    I'm still thinking about Tires and head set.

    I can't wait to build this bike. I'm hoping for a sub 34lbs build.

    I'll post up once it's built!
  • 01-11-2013
    FullMonty
    Hans Dampfs are sikkkkk.
  • 01-12-2013
    stunzeed
    Does anyone know where you can order the 135 and 150 dropouts from?


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  • 01-12-2013
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    Does anyone know where you can order the 135 and 150 dropouts from?


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    Trident Sports bike division in N. Van, BC until US dealers get them in their hands. Not sure if 150's are available yet, but definitely 135's.
  • 01-12-2013
    stunzeed
    ...
  • 01-13-2013
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    ...

    People are going pretty short in the stem department due to long reach measurements on the frame as they are about the same length as the next size smaller. Given the fact the top tube lengths didn't change due to steeper seat tube angle and slacker front end. Guys that are running 30-40mm stems are guys who kind in-between'ers in sizes due to longer reach. For example I went medium and plan to run 50 stem with saddle pushed back or set-back post for more comfort with seated pedalling due to smaller top tube than what I am used to, but if going large I would more than likely need to run about a 30-35mm max to get similar cockpit feel with saddle forward a bit or I would feel too stretch out with out of the saddle riding/descending.

    You still in Portland area? Let's ride sometime if you are.
    JG
  • 01-13-2013
    BobRocket
    I should have a bike to post up some time soon.

    I've been on a MKI longer than almost anyone. I am going with a MKII in silver polish. 135mm and 150mm spacing.

    I'll give 650b a try at some point but for now I will stick with 26".
  • 01-13-2013
    stunzeed
    Those of you who ordered a CCDBa, what size mounting hardware did you get for the front and rear shock mounts


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  • 01-15-2013
    grazertourer
    Hi!

    Does anyone of you know which of the following axles fits the 142x12 drop outs of the Rune v2?


    Rock Shox rear maxle light
    Rock Shox Rear Maxle Lite Steckachse 12mm - BIKE-COMPONENTS.DE

    Shimano xtr 142x12
    Shimano XTR Steckachse SM-AX75 fr FH-M988B 12mm - BIKE-COMPONENTS.DE
  • 01-15-2013
    builttoride
    The maxle will fit.
  • 01-15-2013
    G_g
    I thought the axle was included... Is it? (I ordered 142x12 dropouts too)
  • 01-15-2013
    Marshall Willanholly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    Those of you who ordered a CCDBa, what size mounting hardware did you get for the front and rear shock mounts


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    The Fit Finder on Cane Creek's website has all that info for you.
    Cane Creek Double Barrel and DBAIR Suspension Shock Fit Finder

    Resi end: 25.4 x 8mm
    Air can end: 40 x 8mm
  • 01-15-2013
    grazertourer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by G_g View Post
    I thought the axle was included... Is it? (I ordered 142x12 dropouts too)

    Yes, it's included!

    I just want to go for an axle with quick release.

    @builttoride
    Thanks! :)
  • 01-17-2013
    MalcolmX
    thanks for the info... :)

    the Rune comes with an ThruAxle (if you order the 142mm or the 150mm Dropouts), but for Car Transport or Race (Tire Puncture) the Maxle is just more convenient... :)
  • 01-18-2013
    uzurpator
    Question to Banshee - can you tell us ( by 'us' I mean me and all my other personalities ) when will the next batch of Runes be shipped?
  • 01-18-2013
    cressa
    Has anyone built up an XL frame yet? Would love to see some pics.
  • 01-18-2013
    uzurpator
    I am waiting anxiously for one :) ( Going to be 150mm dropouts with 180mm front fork - 26" wheels ). A friend of mine is also waiting - but he is going for 160mm fork and 650b wheels.
  • 01-19-2013
    jgusta
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    Rune V2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Frame just arrived the other day! Everything looks good with exception of BB shell that looks like it needs to be faced/chased. Now just waiting for the 142x12 dropouts/axle as I was sent the wrong ones from Trident (135xQR) with frame initially, then it's build time and hope to take it out for it's maiden voyage this time next week!

    FRAME: Banshee Rune V2 Medium
    SHOCK: Rockshox Monarch RC3+ HV low tune
    FORK: Rockshox Lyrik DH RC2 160 air
    WHEELS: Stans Flow EX/Hadley hubs
    FRONT TIRE: Specialized Butcher Control 2.3
    REAR TIRE: Specialized Purgatory UST 2.3
    HEADSET: Cane Creek 110 zerostack
    STEM: Thomson X4 50mm
    BARS: Chromag OSX gold 780mm
    GRIPS: ODI Troy Lee Designs
    BRAKES: Shimano Saint 180/160
    DRIVETRAIN: Shimano Saint cranks w/Blackspire 36/24 rings + bash (2x9), Saint RD/shifters, XT FD, SRAM 990 cassette/991 Hollowpin chain
    BOTTOM BRACKET: Shimano Saint
    PEDALS: Crankbrothers Mallet 2
    SEAT POST: Thomson 410mm, KindShock Supernatural 150 when needed
    SEAT: Chromag Trailmaster DT

    Feels good to be back on a Banshee!!! Finally taking out the new ride manana to break her in!
  • 01-19-2013
    Haus Boss
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    Went for a hike today and stumbled upon a pair of elusive V2s playing in the California sun.
  • 01-19-2013
    JansonJanson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cressa View Post
    Has anyone built up an XL frame yet? Would love to see some pics.

    should get mine in the next few weeks ...
    i will report :D
  • 01-19-2013
    ryan_daugherty
    1 Attachment(s)
    My build: I should have my frame & fork at the end of feb or mid march, most of my components are here on Tuesday. All i'll need is my drivetrain, bars and some other knickknacks.


    Weight estimate is based off of claimed weights and some estimates that I could find. No air, grease or fluid estimated though. If I'm wrong on a few weights let me know.
  • 01-19-2013
    stunzeed
    2 Attachment(s)
    Still waiting on my front deraileur and chain so figured I would post in the meantime

    Plan to swap out wheels and run my I9 DH set also

    Attachment 754315

    Attachment 754316
  • 01-19-2013
    eurospek
    ^ Did you have a Convert before? I swear I've seen a similar build before on a Covert frame, black too. :D
  • 01-19-2013
    stunzeed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    ^ Did you have a Convert before? I swear I've seen a similar build before on a Covert frame, black too. :D

    Yup, that was mine prolly


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  • 01-19-2013
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryan_daugherty View Post
    My build: I should have my frame & fork at the end of feb or mid march, most of my components are here on Tuesday. All i'll need is my drivetrain, bars and some other knickknacks.


    Weight estimate is based off of claimed weights and some estimates that I could find. No air, grease or fluid estimated though. If I'm wrong on a few weights let me know.

    Sick build, but would pass on the CC 40 headset though as that is a lower end bearing and just wont last long around here on the lower cup. Mine seized in about 9-10 months with regular cleaning and no mud riding. Not sure about weights, but my medium Rune weighed a bit over 8lbs and my build is 33.3 lbs with standard post, over 34 lbs w/6" KS post.

    Took out the ride for first time today on some trails in the Gorge. Bike is VERY supple and smooth, so much different/better than the V1 in that regard, but I found the bike didn't accelerate or sprint near as well as the V1 on the flats and while climbing. So, I guess it is a trade-off. Want supple/smooth, bump eating travel with no pedal feedback at cost of pure pedallable acceleration. The frame also feels slightly more robust and heavier than the V1 with similar shock, I imagine about 1/2-3/4 lb. I feel this bike would be best for steep, rough terrain on a regular basis where you still need to pedal here and there. So definitely more AM/FR than previous version and pedals and rides similarly to the Cove G-Spot to me.
  • 01-20-2013
    ryan_daugherty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Sick build, but would pass on the CC 40 headset though as that is a lower end bearing and just wont last long around here on the lower cup. Mine seized in about 9-10 months with regular cleaning and no mud riding. Not sure about weights, but my medium Rune weighed a bit over 8lbs and my build is 33.3 lbs with standard post, over 34 lbs w/6" KS post.

    I'm actually a big fan of the 40 headset, have one on my legend and one of my wildcard and my girlfriend has one on her Rune. All of them have been great for us. Maybe you just got a lemon.

    For weight, i'm estimating that the large will be just over 8.5lbs w/ a CCDBa. My goal is 30lbs or under with an adjustable post and 2ply tires. Wish me luck.
  • 01-20-2013
    ryan_daugherty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stunzeed View Post
    Still waiting on my front deraileur and chain so figured I would post in the meantime

    Plan to swap out wheels and run my I9 DH set also

    Attachment 754315

    Attachment 754316

    Too bad the lev post isnt Kashima as well.

    Great build, cant wait to see it with the i9s