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    that thing is SICK! absolutly beautiful frame. however I still need time to get used to the new mainstream graphics... bit of a set back tbh.
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    Yeah, Build-Up made by german Distributor Mr. B..
    Steerer will cut down, rear Brake gets longer Cable and a lower external Cup (Fox Talas with "only" 15 cm Travel).



    Edith: Weight is 12,3 kg!
    Last edited by NoStyle; 12-09-2012 at 07:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    I cannot express in words how much I'm looking forward to seeing that built into a full bike.
    Yup, I have to agree with you there

    NoStyle get your hands on a working scale please so we can have a weight on that beauty. Noticeably more svelte tubing structure vs. the Rune or Prime.

    Wonder ir the rear triangle has any extra material shaved from the Rune's. Doesn't look it but the main frame, oh yeah, much lighter looking.

    Build weight of 30lbs or under with a dropper and I'd be
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    NoStyle: that is overwhelmingly awesome

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    That is a s3xy bike!
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    I love red bikes...and that one is so sexy...really thinking about what is going to replace my old rune now...hmmmm....

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    Damn, just over 27 pounds, pretty damn nice.

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    da red goez fasta (c)

    nice bike! Want to see build on 650b wheels.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Yeah, Build-Up made by german Distributor Mr. B..
    Steerer will cut down, rear Brake gets longer Cable and a lower external Cup (Fox Talas with "only" 15 cm Travel).

    [Taking pic out of quote because it's the right thing to do]

    Edith: Weight is 12,3 kg!
    Holy. Freaking. Crap.

    I was pretty bummed about the Spitfire being red while the Rune got the blue that I adore. No longer bummed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Damn, just over 27 pounds, pretty damn nice.
    Amazing, never thought a weight like that was gonna be possible Almost hard to believe, especially after seeing some of the Rune weights

    Now for a few ride reports to potentially seal the deal for me
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    That red one looks damn hot!!!
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    The weight is great, so are the Parts. Here´s an Overview the owner gave me:

    Rear Derailleur, Triggers, Brakes, Chain and Cassette: Shimano XTR
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    Fork Fox 32 Float RLC
    Wheelset: DT 240 mit XM450TL Felgen und Messerspeichen
    Handlebars: Syntace Vector Carbon 740mm
    Stem: Syntace F109 60mm
    Headset: Pivot
    Handles: Pivot
    Seatpost: P6 carbon hiflex
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal
    Tubes: Kenda

    The owner of the red Spitfire stated around 3,4 kg Frameweight with Shock, Dropouts and Seatclamp.

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    oh that red frame is gorgeous! making me (almost) regret going for boring black

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    Looks and sounds great but those seattube tacos are a concern after owning an '09 5 Spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    oh that red frame is gorgeous! making me (almost) regret going for boring black
    Glad you went black, so if we're on the same ride our bikes won't be twinsies once I get one too. Really bummed I missed that hardtail ride today (not sure if you were there).

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    soooo, what are the headset options for running a 1.125" steer-tube fork on a v2 spitfire? from what i can tell, there's:

    - chris king: inset 2 with a devo baseplate
    - cane creek: SHIS:ZS44 on top / SHIS:ZS56/30 below
    - hope: Integral 43.95mm upper / Integral 55.9mm lower + a Hope Tapered 1.5" Reducer Crown

    am i missing any good options? am i even on the right track? i don't know what's worse, the current state of front derailleur "standards" or headset "standards"

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    You forgot the fully sealed 44/56mm Banshee headsets that come with both 1.125" and 1.5" crown races so that they worth with both fork options... ask your dealer for details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    You forgot the fully sealed 44/56mm Banshee headsets that come with both 1.125" and 1.5" crown races so that they worth with both fork options... ask your dealer for details.
    i didn't forget about it because i didn't know it existed... until now. was almost ready to curse you for sticking us (me) with a hard-to-spec head tube only to find you've made it easy peasy lemon squeezy; beauty
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    The 44/56 head tube is the way to go for all frames IMO. Zero-stack on a tapered fork is where it's at. I wish people would drop all the other options (my TR250 has the one size down lower cup so I can run tapered but not ZS ... lame. 2013's have fixed this)

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    I need a group opinion to help with my future build. I am going to run the new xfusion Slant fork. I have ordered a black frame, should I run a white or a black fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokepeddler View Post
    I need a group opinion to help with my future build. I am going to run the new xfusion Slant fork. I have ordered a black frame, should I run a white or a black fork?
    Never a white fork, but that is just one mans opinion.

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    I vote black to match the frame

    What's the ETA on the Slant? You going 26 or 650 as apparently now there will be a different fork for each.
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    I was doing a 26er I was told they would be available in about three weeks. I was also told that the 650b fork will be closer to the end of January beginning of February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Yeah, Build-Up made by german Distributor Mr. B..
    Steerer will cut down, rear Brake gets longer Cable and a lower external Cup (Fox Talas with "only" 15 cm Travel).



    Edith: Weight is 12,3 kg!
    Wow, that looks awesome! Can you tell us the size?

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    The red Spitfire is Framesize M.

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    Thanks! Looking forward to photos and details of your black ano!

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    how do I fix bushing play in my spitfire?

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    ^The fix is moving to a new frame..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikedex View Post
    how do I fix bushing play in my spitfire?
    Step 1: Remove all components from said frame.
    Step 2: Throw frame in trash.
    Step 3: Procure new 2013 frame.
    Step 4: Install components from old frame onto shiny new 2013 frame.
    Step 5:..........?
    Step 6: Profit!

    ...or new bushings or new pivot axles might help, depending on your situation. There's other threads for that.
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    I finally heard back from Trident on my warranty claim so it looks like I will be upgrading to a V2 Spitfire!

    I think I will stick with a large frame, being about 6'1" (185 cm) tall. I currently run my saddle centered on the rails, and use a 70mm stem. So I could switch to a 50mm stem and the cockpit should feel fairly similar.

    I think I will get a black frame. I really like anodized finishes; very durable, not easily scratched, easy to clean. I have a raw finish Legend and that is nice too but does show scratches in the clearcoat, and I've just never been a huge fan of raw. The red does look nice but is a little too flashy for me. I really like the Rune blue, and wish that was a choice as well.

    I will probably first run 26" wheels, but switch to 650b once I can get a wheelset and fork. Has anyone compared the geometry of the 650b setting to other 650b specific bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMtnB44 View Post
    I finally heard back from Trident on my warranty claim so it looks like I will be upgrading to a V2 Spitfire!

    I think I will stick with a large frame, being about 6'1" (185 cm) tall. I currently run my saddle centered on the rails, and use a 70mm stem. So I could switch to a 50mm stem and the cockpit should feel fairly similar.

    I think I will get a black frame. I really like anodized finishes; very durable, not easily scratched, easy to clean. I have a raw finish Legend and that is nice too but does show scratches in the clearcoat, and I've just never been a huge fan of raw. The red does look nice but is a little too flashy for me. I really like the Rune blue, and wish that was a choice as well.

    I will probably first run 26" wheels, but switch to 650b once I can get a wheelset and fork. Has anyone compared the geometry of the 650b setting to other 650b specific bikes?
    I'm 6' exact and I will also go large should I get the Spitty frame.

    I emailed Banshee yesterday about the second run of Spitfire frames getting the blue color as well (me like that color). 2nd run on the Rune will get yellow so maybe they can do a blue Spitty.

    I've analyzed it over and over to head ache proportions. Spitty is long and only the Scott Genius is close (2/10th of an inch difference) Most everything else is about 1 inch to 2.5 inches shorter but it's got geometry designed to work this way run short stems and wider bars. Some may prefer to see a shorter CS length but I'm cool with it and it helps keep the front end down climbing. My current Jamis 650 has freakishly long CS @ 17.7" but it seems fine to me. The beauty of the Spitty is you can set it up low BB and slack (which most seem to do) or high BB and steep (67.5-68 degrees depending on fork A/C which I'll most likely do) or someplace in the middle. Effective SA is right on the money as well.

    Cannot wait for some ride reports to start trickling in on this bike. Top of my list at the moment with the icing it can be built under 30lbs without to much effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikedex View Post
    how do I fix bushing play in my spitfire?
    bikedex, have you heard or read of this: Banshee Upgrade Program ?
    If I were you I would take the chance

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    I'm 6' exact and I will also go large should I get the Spitty frame ... Cannot wait for some ride reports to start trickling in on this bike. Top of my list at the moment with the icing it can be built under 30lbs without to much effort.
    I am incredible busy at the moment and I can´t even manage to get a scale to weight the Frame due to 18 - 20 hours of work per Day. My Parts should arrive just before Christmas, so Riding-Reports may take some Time ...

    But hey: You can see how it looks, you know how light you can go depending on Parts ... and you know the Framesize that shoult fit. Now give yourself a Kick and place your Order! There´s no need to waste Time ...

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    I wonder how much a medium spitty would weigh in at with the following build:

    Xfusion Slant 34mm Fork
    Xfusion Hilo Sl
    Xfusion Vector air HLR rear shock
    WTB Volt ti
    Syntace MX30 28h wheelset
    Conti 2.2 trail king folding tires
    32t XX1 drivetrain
    Race Face turbine 60mm stem
    Easton haven carbon bars
    XTR brakes 180mm front, 160mm rear
    Spank Spike pedals

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    Anyone with a new Spitfire V2 frame here in the US or Canada? Any dealers have em in?

    Really would like to see a few more of these built up, some weights and ride reviews.

    My dealer say's the black anno is a pain to keep clean and attracts dirt more easily vs the raw/clearcoat finish. What's the consensus about that as I like both? Of course I really like the Rune blue color which isn't available on the Spitfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Anyone with a new Spitfire V2 frame here in the US or Canada? Any dealers have em in?.
    trident (north american distributor?) told me they were in customs late last week. should be in pretty soon. but the first batch may already be spoken for?

    i have a black ano rune. it does get dirty easily, and show it. but it is a very durable finish

    edit: i guess it depends on if you are buying it to look at, or to ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Anyone with a new Spitfire V2 frame here in the US or Canada? Any dealers have em in?

    Really would like to see a few more of these built up, some weights and ride reviews.

    My dealer say's the black anno is a pain to keep clean and attracts dirt more easily vs the raw/clearcoat finish. What's the consensus about that as I like both? Of course I really like the Rune blue color which isn't available on the Spitfire.
    Supposedly the spitfires are due to arrive this week at Trident Sports which was changed from the original date of the first week in December. Hopefully, they are due to arrive this week and then be sent out.
    I have the grey anodized v1 spitfire and IMO is the best way to go for color scheme. There are no scratches or absence of paint anywhere and when washed looks the same as it did when it was born. And that's after almost 3 years of abuse. Not sure why the black anodized would be a pain to clean. My wildcard is black anodized, too. Still looks brand new. Of course it doesn't get ridden as much since my spitfire is the bike of choice for everyday riding. If i had a choice it would always be anodized coloring for me. Usually the anodized treatment is more costly and the frame makers charge extra, but the coloring is permanent, i.e. no scratches/blemishes.
    Can anyone else confirm if spitfire's are landing at trident this week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Anyone with a new Spitfire V2 frame here in the US or Canada? Any dealers have em in?

    Really would like to see a few more of these built up, some weights and ride reviews.

    My dealer say's the black anno is a pain to keep clean and attracts dirt more easily vs the raw/clearcoat finish. What's the consensus about that as I like both? Of course I really like the Rune blue color which isn't available on the Spitfire.
    Yes, the ano frames will be the most scratch resistant. The black looks really matted when dirt dries on it, whereas the grey will look a bit better. The powdercoats will chip paint the easiest and raw/polished look the cleanest but scratch the easiest. I would go grey ano as that is what my 2011 Rune was and color and held up good. My 2010 ano black only looked good when wet or brand new and appeared really matted and scrubby, like color fade when dirt would dry on frame. My 2008 ano gold Rune color was nice as well.
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    I found I could keep my black ano Spitfire looking like new with a few Simple Green. I would use a spray bottle and when washing my bike I would give it a couple of sprays and then hose down the frame and wipe it dry. Worked like a charm.

    Obviously, you want to be carefull around bearings with the hose and the simple green but a super cheap way to keep it looking like new.

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    " I would go grey ano"

    since when is this an option for the V2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooldaddy View Post
    " I would go grey ano"

    since when is this an option for the V2?
    Oops, that doesn't sound like a color choice for 2013 V2's. Forgot it is red, ano black, and raw polished for V2 Spitty. I would go with the color that looks the best to you as each one of those finishes with have pro's and cons.
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    I personally had a black anodized Ellsworth moment for a long time and loved the durability of the finish even though it tended to look dusty after rides. My last bike I had for one season and it was powder coated black it looked really good after dusty rides but had a ton of little scratches and swirl marks after just one season. My vote is ano.

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    Well if the black anno cleans up ok when you give it a bath then I'm cool with that. Guess I was more curious if the dirt embedded into the finish and stayed there.

    After cleaning dirt bikes for over 30 years a mtn. bike is a walk in the park but I haven't had an anno frame yet.

    If you want an fantastic cleaner that wont hurt any of the finish this X-Tream Clean stuff is amazing and I've tried tons of em. Highly recommended and little to no scrubbing required. Especially if you wash on a regular basis. I think the Bicycle Wash is really the same as the MX/ATV wash (which I use). Worth every penny IMO.

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    I've had pretty good results with the Pedro's foaming bike wash on anodized finishes. Easy peasy. Cheaper by the gallon, and it lasts me a few years.
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    Anodized finishes hold up way better. I had a black ano rune and it did hold dirt if you just rinse it off, but it always cleaned up nice with some soap. I have a grey spitfire now and the finish is also holding up well except for where I left the cable lock for my bike rack looped around the down tube and it basically polished a little section from vibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Well if the black anno cleans up ok when you give it a bath then I'm cool with that. Guess I was more curious if the dirt embedded into the finish and stayed there.
    The industry has slowly moved from that flat-surface anodizing to the "shot-peened" anodizing that has a surface roughness to it.

    The shot-peened traps dirt. Not a chore to clean, but surely the flat one is much easier to clean.

    I had a Titus Switchblade that was black-flat-anodized. It was gorgeous. Very easy to clean also. Dust? Just pass a rag over and you were done. Mud didn't stick more to it than it would to paint and surely much less than the shot-peened anodizing.

    Mind you, supposedly, the shot peened increases fatigue life of aluminum and gives you that stealthy look.
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    I've got an ano black frame on the way too...I'm not super uptight about keeping frames ultra clean all the time though.

    Lots of neat freaks I know swear by Pledge furniture polish...

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    How is possible that first V2 SPITTYS are out there, and no pics or specs on website.
    Are they protos?
    Is V2 tailored for 650b wheels?


    looks like a nice choice if I don't go for 29er !

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    Ok, browsing the thread I found new spitty geo.
    The L suits me perfecly.
    I do think with 27.5 wheels it would be a killer trail riding machine !!!!!!!!

    mumble mumble mumble...... prime 29 or spit 27.5 ?????
    lots of sleepless night ahead !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by filbike View Post
    . prime 29 or spit 27.5 ?????
    I too would love to ride a 650b spitty back-to-back with the prime.

    filbike, what kind of trails do you ride & whats your size & riding style?

    I have some thoughts on the topic, but YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    I too would love to ride a 650b spitty back-to-back with the prime.

    filbike, what kind of trails do you ride & whats your size & riding style?

    I have some thoughts on the topic, but YMMV
    Well FM, as I'm gettin' older and stiffer and falls hurts more and more, I 'm changing my riding style.
    I'm oriented to trail riding with no big drops or jumps and no (more) killer speed in rock gardens and tech sections, but I still like reach the summit for enjoying way down as fast as I can.
    I was nailed on the "L" PRIME but when I saw that with "L" SPITFIRE I could find a bike that suits me better in dimensions (longer reach) and have the chance to use my old fork (VAN 36) and may be build a lighter bike, I saw a new light.
    best thing would be testing both...

    here a pic of my actual bike
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