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    such a great bike for this type of terrain

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    I finally got my upgrade Spitfire V2 put together last week and got a ride in over the weekend. I am really happy with it so far. The frame fits me perfectly and everything went together with no issues. I definitely notice some of the improvements over the V1, mostly how much smoother the suspension action is and the increased lateral stiffness.

    Parts list (mostly taken from my V1):
    RS Revelation Team
    Easton Havoc wheels
    Conti Trail King 2.4F/2.2R
    SLX crankset
    X.9 rear derailleur, X.0 shifter
    MRP Lopes SL chain guide
    Candy 2 pedals
    Syncros stem
    Easton Havoc bars
    Banshee seatpost and collar (will be replaced once I get another dropper post)

    I bought the 650b dropouts as well and a DT Swiss M1700 wheelset, just need a 650b fork and then I will try that out. I am debating between the new RS Pike or Xfusion Sweep; I would like to get the Sweep, if it is in fact available soon.
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    You can fit a 2.3" 650B Neo Moto in the Revelation fork. It would at least get you started while waiting for the new offerings to appear.
    2013 Banshee Spitfire V2 650b

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    I already have 650b sets of Nevegal 2.35 and Hans Dampf 2.35 so I don't want to buy any more tires. Also the M1700 wheels have a 15mm front hub and the Revelation is 20mm. I'm also not a fan of using improperly matched parts, so I can wait for a real 650b fork.

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    hi guys
    I've ordered a 2014 spitfire frame. blue, medium, 142x12.
    I want to start ordering parts for the bike...
    what seat post do I need if I want a KS LEV? what size? length?
    what size BB? regular or press fit?

    any more info can help

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    hi guys
    I've ordered a 2014 spitfire frame. blue, medium, 142x12.
    I want to start ordering parts for the bike...
    what seat post do I need if I want a KS LEV? what size? length?
    what size BB? regular or press fit?

    any more info can help

    thanks
    Did you consider looking at the website? All of that info is on there.

    Spitfire | Banshee Bikes: DH Race, Freeride, All Mountain, Trail, Slopestyle, DJ/Street/4x, Aggressive Trail, Cross Country

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    JustMtn, sure I checked
    but I cant understand if the BB is regular 73 with treaded or press fit...
    and the question about the seat post, I know its 30.9.
    but, what length do I need? 300? 400? with 100mm of travel? or 125mm of travel?

    thanks :-)

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    The BB is a regular ENG/BSA 73 mm, no Press-Fit.
    Towards your Seatpost: Isnīt this a Question of personal Preference? Hard to tell if 100 mm, 125 mm or maybe 150 mm Travel-Adjust would work for you. This too could have Influence for your prefered Length ...

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    NoStyle, thanks
    about the seat post, I know that I want 100mm of travel. but willa 400mm KS lev post will work with the seat tube? will it be too long? or does the seat tube is not long enough ?

    thanks

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    Huh, hard to tell ...
    Look at my Spitfire in Post 704. Itīs a large Size Frame with a Thomson Elite Post 42 cm, Saddle put down as much as possible. I canīt measure right now but I think thereīs 10-12 cm Post left outside the Seattube. For my personal Liking 40 cm would be to long, especially when going 125 or 150 mm Travel-Adjust ...
    Is it too long for you? Maybe yes ... and if I were you I would take the Benefit of more Travel than 100 mm ...

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    thanks NoStyle
    you have a nice bike :-)
    I think I'll go for the 125mm travel seat post.
    and maybe it will be best to wait with it till I get the frame and measure things.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    ... maybe it will be best to wait with it till I get the frame and measure things.
    Thank you!
    I think itīs the best you can do. Getting the Seat up enough for proper Position is important. But for me Standover-Clearancein steep techy Terrain is really important, maybe for you too.

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    I use a 380mm reverb with a 125 mm drop, I have a medium frame and have 31inch inseam. I have more than enough post inserted in the seatube and when the seat is at its lowest it is completely out of the road... Hope this helps.

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    thanks guys

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    RE: Seatpost length: I would add up the heights of the BB and seat tube and compare that with what you are currently riding. That should give you a rough approximation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoro View Post
    Can someone point me out to a chainguide that will fit proper on the V2 Spitty? My SRS+ looks wonky on it even in the wide position.

    From what I gathered, Straitline seems good and Gamut also? E13 is a no go, no for a clean install at least.

    Please don't tell me to buy a clutch rear D and ditch the chainguide.

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    +1, I'm trying to fit a Gamut P30 and its not looking promising... This is about the only position it will fit and while I haven't checked whether the tensioner will work in all the gears and travel (as my rear hub has not yet arrived) the top guide appears to be too low/right in the chain path. It doesn't appear that a small amount of dremelling will solve the problem.

    JustMtnB44's setup with the mrp lopes guide looks to fit well. What chainring are you running and was any grinding required to fit the lopes guide? If I'm honest I'm not sure I need a full on bash guard on this bike, I went with the gamut setup because it works well on my DH bike.

    Any advise is appreciated.
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    2013 Spitfire

    For what it's worth, I could not get my Straitline Silent Guide (32 tooth specific) to fit on my medium frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aweather View Post
    JustMtnB44's setup with the mrp lopes guide looks to fit well. What chainring are you running and was any grinding required to fit the lopes guide? If I'm honest I'm not sure I need a full on bash guard on this bike, I went with the gamut setup because it works well on my DH bike.
    Here is another picture of my setup. I am running a 32T chainring and did not do any grinding or trimming of the Lopes guide. The guide is rotated all the way to one side; it basically only fits in one position. There is probably 3mm of clearance between the chainstay and guide.

    I had an E13 XCX on my V1 Spitfire, but sometimes the chain would drop off the bottom of the chainring and get stuck between the chainring and ISCG tabs. The Lopes guide basically just adds the lower roller to prevent this. However, now the chain is very close to the chainstay and rattles against it. I need to wrap it in tape or a tube or something to keep it quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hartwerks View Post
    For what it's worth, I could not get my Straitline Silent Guide (32 tooth specific) to fit on my medium frame.
    It fits on my large frame but rotated all the way to one side

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    Hey dudes,

    So it looks like I'm going to be getting a V2 frame to replace my V1 frame. I need some advice on what size to pick.

    I am 5'7/5'8 and I am currently using a Medium frame. Are the V1 and V2 mediums sizes the same? Is the reach longer? I think the V1 medium is at about the maximum reach I can handle when my seat is up all the way for climbing. Going downhill the bike feels perfect.

    Would you suggest to go with another medium frame? I had trouble finding a seat post long enough for the V1 frame, to get proper leg extension when climbing. Switching to a dropper post (KS 900r) fixed that.

    Any advice from someone my height would be greatly appreciated.

    Oh and are the bottom headtube sizes different?

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    I'm 5'8 and ride a medium, my last bike was a small meta4x with a top tube of 559. I was really concerned about the long reach of the spitfire v2 but I decided to go for it anyway and it fits perfectly. I would go for medium but its your choice.

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    Thanks for the response monkeyninja. I think I'm with you on the medium suggestion. I wouldn't want to get the small and have it too small or get it and find out the seat tube is way too short.

    How long is the stem on yours?

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    50mm stem 740mm bars

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    I'm 5'7, 31" inseam. I think that I am in between sizes.

    I originally had a small Spitfire with a 50mm stem and it felt great. I had the front triangle replaced and upsized to a medium and it also felt great with a 50mm stem.

    The reach was noticeably longer initially but still comfortable. I have since put on a 45mm stem.

    The V2 reach is 23mm longer than the V1. I think the V1 was designed around a 70mm stem, whereas the V2 was designed around a 50mm stem.

    At 5'8, I'd pick a medium but it depends on how you want to set your bike up and what trails you ride.

    What stem length do you run on your V1 and what length do you intend to run on the V2?

    Do you ride tight trails or would you prefer the stability of a longer bike?

    You might find that the offset head on your KS dropper might stretch you out too much - a medium with 50mm stem and straight seatpost would be the way to go imho.

    Regarding headtubes... the V1 and V2 are different - both are 44mm top cup but the V1 is a 49.6mm bottom cup and the V2 is 56mm.

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    I think I have about the same measurements as you Sov. I'm 5'7 and around a 30/31" inseam.

    On my V1 Spitfire I've always used a 50mm stem. Who makes the 45mm stem? I plan on swapping over all the current parts to the new frame, stem included (minus the shock and lower headset cup).

    I guess it shouldn't be a big problem if the reach is only 23mm longer on the V2.

    This is my only bike, so picking between tight trails or higher speed ones is sort of a moot point. I ride everything on this bike and pretty much through myself down the hills on it as if it were my downhill bike.

    I guess if it comes down to it with the medium frame, I can always scoot my seat forward a bit and swap out the stem for a 40mm or 45mm one.

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    Now I have finally put my V2 together, what an awesome bike!

    I really like the CCDB Air and how every small adjustment is noticeable
    The settings is 4 clicks of LSC and 3 clicks of LSR as I read in this thread, thanks for posting useful settings, works great!

    As it is now with a 150 mm Revelation and the internal headset-cup it is a bit low, so I cannot run it in the lowest setting too much rock on my trails...
    I plan on using a external lower cup for even more awesomness in the future.

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    Weight is appr 13 kg with pedals according to my probably inaccurate scale

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    how do I choose the proper dropper seat post length?
    I want to order the KS LEV
    In 125mm /5” travel
    In the KS site, I see they have it in: 385mm / 125mm
    Does the 385mm size is with the 125mm travel or without?...

    Thanks

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    Saruti, 385 should be the seatpost in the longest setting, i.e. the shortest will be 385-125 = 260 mm

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    thanks
    any one here 170m high with Medium frame using the KS ?
    what length do you use?

    thanks

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    Note: useful length is 260 to 385 mm minus the insert length of course

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    What tunes on the shocks are supposed to be run on this frame?

    2012 Fox Float rp23 kashima 7.875 X 2.25 - Pinkbike

    Would that shock work out?

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    looks like you are holding a bolt of lightning

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    I had the same issue same guide, i cut a bit off the bottom curve of the boomerang vertically to just clear the bottom slider left side screws. Then i slotted out the bottom isg mount on the guide to clock it further anticlockwise but then the right hand allen screw doesnt align so i only use two screws to mount it. (hope that makes sense)
    I was really annoyed as i didnt want to modify chain guide.
    Anyway it does work ok except the chain rubs the top guide when in the 32&36 rear gear. Not ideal, it still only just clears bottom chain stay and chain still slaps that area because it is only millimeters away.
    I recon the 34,36T guide would work ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    hi guys
    I've ordered a 2014 spitfire frame. blue, medium, 142x12.
    thanks
    Are 2014's available? When are you expecting to take delivery?

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    the 2014 will arrive in August

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    size....

    hi guys
    the more I think about it, it looks like maybe I'll be better ordering a small frame...
    it looks like the geo of the small spitfire is more like the medium MKIII I have now.
    I'm 1,70cm. and using short 40mm stem on my bike now.Name:  MKIII2007.png
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    Sizing is very much based on personal Preference ...
    Iīm 180/181 cm Tall and switched from a M to a L Spitfire. M was really good, but the large is that little Tad better on long Days in the Saddle. I know some german Riders, all 172 or 173 cm Tall, all going with a medium Spitfire and shorter Stem.
    Depends on how you like to sit on the Bike, as the Reach (Standing on Pedals and Body moving over the Bike) changes on every single Obstacle ...

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    I built my v2 (warranty upgrade from a v1)up yesterday and got a 15 mile ride on it today. Overall, I'm really happy with the bike so far...I like the geometry, the bike feels better the fast you push it, and it just feels much, much smoother than my v1. Assuming the pivot wear issues are all sorted out with this new design, I can see hanging on to this bike for a long while.


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    Wow... that is one of the nicest spitfires I have ever seen!

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    nice
    what size?

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    Thanks for the compliments! It is a medium and while it is a bit heavier than my old el guapo, it does seem to pedal like it weighs a bit less. I plan on getting on a scale soon to see exactly how much it weighs bit my guess in the 29 lb range.

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    How tall are you?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    the 2014 will arrive in August
    Thats intrigue!

    could you please share som info on that?
    changes, colors, anything?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    How tall are you?

    thanks
    I'm 5'9/10 with a bit of a longer torso and shorter legs and medium fits great.

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    Here is my freshly built, 650b spitfire. Two short rides on it over the weekend as a shakedown and I'm very happy with it. I can't wait to get up to some proper trails in a weeks time! I spoke to the Gamut guys and sorted out that their p30 vpp guide will work, it fits and is working well so far.
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    When I got my V1 Spitfire I had been testing a >12 kg Transition Bandit for some weeks and my 13,5 kg Spitty just pedalled so much better it was hard to believe it was much heavier.
    I think people only know how well a Banshee pedals after trying one. Never tried the KS link though...

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    2013 Spitfire-spitfire-2014.jpghere are the 2014 spitfires

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    Quote Originally Posted by saruti View Post
    here are the 2014 spitfires
    damn, no green again! and that blue is even worse than red, on my side..

    'll take red one, eek

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