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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokepeddler View Post
    Seriously I love this bike. I am going to upgrade the shock to the new Xfusion Vector Air HLR. I think the big can and boost valve will help keep from bottoming out when jumping to flat. Other than that, this bike tears corners like no bike I have ever ridden. Well done Banshee. Also mine weighs in at 29.1 pounds with a 34 float fork, that is not bad in my book.
    if you're running the Fox Float CTD I suggest trying a small reducer first. It has worked excellent for me on the V1 and now V2. I'm around 200lb, run 165psi, 16mm of sag (2 more than recommended) and use all the travel but have yet to feel it bottom out on challenging terrain....

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    Anyone knows, which bearing types/sizes are used in the V2 Spitfire?

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    I believe they are the same as the Prime proto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooldaddy View Post
    if you're running the Fox Float CTD I suggest trying a small reducer first. It has worked excellent for me on the V1 and now V2. I'm around 200lb, run 165psi, 16mm of sag (2 more than recommended) and use all the travel but have yet to feel it bottom out on challenging terrain....
    Felt like i was blowing through the travel too, close to 195 geared up. running about 205psi to get the right sag. Bought the reducer and I hope this solves the issue.

    Other than that this bike really tears up the downhills. love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coocoomike View Post
    Felt like i was blowing through the travel too, close to 195 geared up. running about 205psi to get the right sag. Bought the reducer and I hope this solves the issue.

    Other than that this bike really tears up the downhills. love it.
    wow 205psi seems excessively high to me, I weigh the same and run 40psi less...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooldaddy View Post
    wow 205psi seems excessively high to me, I weigh the same and run 40psi less...

    Maybe my gauge is wrong, but to get the right sag (~14mm), i have to run it that high. Even with that pressure, I still go through all of its travel.

    In any case, I'm loving this bike. The new KS link and geo is pretty amazing. Took it on a nice shuttle run yesterday where i usually have my DH bike. No complaints, super fun and poppy. Really stable in the air. Rear suspension feels great over braking bumps. And carves great through the turns.

    I'm hoping the reducers will ramp up the shock just a little harder through its end stroke.


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    2013 Spitfire

    I really wish I could get my hands on one but they seem to be sold out ( in medium anyway) and getting conflicting info on future availability from stores.

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    Frame finally ordered (sold my Jamis Dakar 650) with ETA about a week. Went with the Raw in size large as it's supposed to be available now. Black would be maybe 5-6 weeks for the next shipment if I wanted that. Son #2 was handy at the decision time and voted Raw so I went for it. 650B of course Pretty pumped.
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    Has Banshee responded to the seat tube diameter issue? Seems pretty common on the new frames (rune, spitfire).

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    Quote Originally Posted by highrustler View Post
    Has Banshee responded to the seat tube diameter issue? Seems pretty common on the new frames (rune, spitfire).
    It would be good to hear this addressed I agree as it's the one thing that worries me with a frame ordered now. I asked my dealer to have it checked at the distributor before they ship the frame if possible.

    builttoride what you say to this matter???
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    It would be good to hear this addressed I agree as it's the one thing that worries me with a frame ordered now. I asked my dealer to have it checked at the distributor before they ship the frame if possible.

    builttoride what you say to this matter???
    Agreed. I'm not buying the frame until the issue is recognized/solved by Banshee.

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    for what its worth I'm one of the people who complained about the seat tube diameter being off, but so far my salsa QR has not had trouble holding the seat post in place, albeit with it tightened down more than on my old V1 frame, which does concern me still.

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    When we became aware of the seat tube tolerances being slightly on the large side on some frames, which potentially causes some slipping when combined with certain seatposts, we looked into the issue and had the factory service the bearings on the reamer to ensure there was no vibration happeneing. The seatubes have had tighter tolerances since the first production.

    If you do feel that your post slipps a bit over time then I'd recommend trying some carbon paste if your post doesn't allow for a tight clamp to be used.
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    So... what exactly would that mean for people having frames with higher tolerances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    When we became aware of the seat tube tolerances being slightly on the large side on some frames, which potentially causes some slipping when combined with certain seatposts, we looked into the issue and had the factory service the bearings on the reamer to ensure there was no vibration happeneing. The seatubes have had tighter tolerances since the first production.

    If you do feel that your post slipps a bit over time then I'd recommend trying some carbon paste if your post doesn't allow for a tight clamp to be used.
    Wow. Banshee. The bushing issue on the V1 gets a follow up with this one on the V2. You should work on your QA during production. Just recommending carbon paste is not professional...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kijan View Post
    Wow. Banshee. The bushing issue on the V1 gets a follow up with this one on the V2. You should work on your QA during production. Just recommending carbon paste is not professional...
    That seems a bit harsh, overall people appear to be damn happy with their V2, I am. I can live with some carbon paste over the fn bushing disaster called V1 for sure.

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    but still, it is sad to hear an (age) old problem occur on newer frame's. one should learn from previous problems to create a better product right? but to be realistic what other options do you have than to recommand carbon paste? it's not even a bad idea, and you can't expect a company to swap each front triangle for such small tollerance problems.
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    In my eyes, banshee is a group of freaks who design really cool bikes which ride fantastic (Yes, I love my V1 spitfire, but hate it's bushing and wear issue). But: this company seems to lack professionality. There is no adequate communication about shipping dates, quality control seems to be not professional (production in taiwan needs full time presence during production to ensure quality) The V1 had this design flaw regarding the wearing links, I assume it also was an effect of wrong production tolerances with unwanted forces on the bushings...

    I got a V2 upgrade promised due to my wearing V1 frame, the importer promised to deliver beginning of the year, currently I get neither updates nor responses anymore.

    @builttoride: what's going on here? eventually you should stop your marketing stuff, presenting on bike mag and whatever - but get your production under control and delivery chain fixed. If you want to run a successful bike company, that's top prio of your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kijan View Post
    But: this company seems to lack professionality.
    I would like to add that Keith was spotted wearing t-shirt and jeans in several promo videos.

    Totally unprofessional!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kijan View Post
    ... production in taiwan needs full time presence during production to ensure quality ...
    Thatīs the one and only Point I like to agree, because I do have Trouble with Outsourcing in my Business too.
    Apart from that - the Quality of my Frames or Correspondence with both Banshee or Distribution have been great for Years! Banshee is by far not the only Bike-Company going through Trouble during Production. It should not happen, but unfortunately sometimes thatīs the Way Things turn ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    I would like to add that Keith was spotted wearing t-shirt and jeans in several promo videos.

    Totally unprofessional!
    Yup, he missed the memo from Gary Fisher....

    No Style is correct there are many bike companies who struggle with production issues and design problems (how many thousands of frames do you think Trek/Fisher has had to give away because of breakage? Me included so great for lifetime warranty but bad design/QC control) Jamis has had loads of chainstay failures and I'm sure people could add plenty more from various other companies.

    I'm new to Banshee and didn't suffer through the V1 fiasco but aside from the seatpost issue (which I'm actually gonna assume is a small percentage) I've yet to read of any issues with the V2 frames of the Spitty, Rune, or Prime. Ok, the 142 dropouts were something but he's already had them redesigned so that's taken care of. It's not like they couldn't be used. Seatpost issue as well has been dealt with once he noticed the comments from users.

    I think the Banshee guys are a small company which requires each person to wear multiple hats and you get tugged in many different directions all at the same time. Stuff can fall through the cracks this way as they take care of the most important fires at the time. I also get the feeling that it's some of the importers/distributors that are dropping the ball and not Banshee themselves. Especially some of the Euro and far removed distributors where I see most of the complaints coming from. Maybe I'm wrong?

    It's obvious that Keith browses this forum when his time permits. How cool is it that we can actually get responses and help from the bikes designer right here on this forum? Guy's who have had serious distributor issues I've seen him send PM's to I assume to get an issue resolved. Should he have to do that? NO, but that's the multiple hat thing going on right there. I do feel bad for the guys with the issues and waiting on replacement frames and hopefully Banshee comes though for you soon.
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    I would say this is a rather small issue, especially if using carbon paste fixes the issue (which I suspect it will). Knolly had a some issues with the first several runs of Chilcotins. As others have pointed it, it's actually more common than you might think. This is hardly the bushing debacle that so many of us dealt with on our Runes and Spitfires.

    In regards to communication from Banshee and Trident, myself and everyone I know have not had any issues. They're both small companies that were completely swamped with the roll out of the v2 frames. I think they've done a pretty good job of correcting what was a ****storm. You gotta be patient though, you're not dealing with Wally World- just don't freak out when it takes them 3, 4, 5 days to return your emails-

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    I dig this new V2, I look forward to the next ride just hours after I finished the last one. I ultimately want the Cane Creek DBair on it but so far the Fox CTD works like advertised; I use all 3 settings where I can to get the most out of it and really can't fault it after adding the smallest reducer to get the sag right, get full travel without a harsh bottom-out. Just a great bike.

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    Here is mine again. Updates are CCDB-Air and 650B-Wheelset (WTB Frequency i23, Tune MK King/Kong, Sapim Race/Laser, Schwalbe HansDampf 2.25 Trailstar, AV13). Weight is now 13,8 kg because of the loss of 993 Gramms versus my solid 26er Wheelset. Dropouts are the 26 who give enough Clearance in more dry Conditions. For bigger Volume-Tires (2.35 or 2.4) - they may fit too, but would suggest the 650B-Dropouts, especially for muddy Conditions you want more Clearance.

    All I can say is: Iīm impressed to the maximum!

    The CCDB-Air needs some minor Tweaking from the Base-Tune. There is minimal Bob when Pedalling seated, which the Evolver didnīt have, but apart from that Banshee and CaneCreek have done a good Job with the Base-Tune. Itīs a well dialed Setup to start with and I think a few Clicks more LSC and Iīm done so far. The KS-Link with CCDB-Air and BOS Deville Fork simply is by far the best Suspension I have ever experienced - wow!

    The 650B Wheel is harder to tell what makes it so cool and different - and probably "better". Almost 1 Kilo Weightsaving is massive on a Wheelset and makes it difficult to describe if itīs the slightly bigger Size or the lighter Weight. Acceleration is a lot more effortless, just a few Pedalstrokes and you are up to Speed. Yes, slightly better Small-Bump-Absorbtion, slightly better Traction when Breaking and Cornering - but the last two depend very much on Tire-Choice. Less Stiffness? No - thatīs depending on the Wheelset-Buildquality. Mine is 1711 Gramms but feel as stiff as my Hardcore-26-Wheelset. Less playfull? No, not at all. With the 26 Dropouts the Difference was hard to notice. At least it gives a bit more Comfort on a long Bike-Day. And itīs a great Combination for those who donīt need 150 or 160 mm Travel in the Back!

    My Geometry-Settings werenīt touched yet. Still neutral Setting in the Back and -1 Deg Angleset = 74 Deg Seatangle and 65,5 Deg Headangle. Itīs bang on right there where others do their "650B-specific Geometry and Kinematics". But when it comes to Slackness ... well ... you know ...

    Damn - I love this Bike even more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Here is mine again. Updates are CCDB-Air and 650B-Wheelset (WTB Frequency i23, Tune MK King/Kong, Sapim Race/Laser, Schwalbe HansDampf 2.25 Trailstar, AV13). Weight is now 13,8 kg because of the loss of 993 Gramms versus my solid 26er Wheelset. Dropouts are the 26 who give enough Clearance in more dry Conditions. For bigger Volume-Tires (2.35 or 2.4) - they may fit too, but would suggest the 650B-Dropouts, especially for muddy Conditions you want more Clearance.

    All I can say is: Iīm impressed to the maximum!

    The CCDB-Air needs some minor Tweaking from the Base-Tune. There is minimal Bob when Pedalling seated, which the Evolver didnīt have, but apart from that Banshee and CaneCreek have done a good Job with the Base-Tune. Itīs a well dialed Setup to start with and I think a few Clicks more LSC and Iīm done so far. The KS-Link with CCDB-Air and BOS Deville Fork simply is by far the best Suspension I have ever experienced - wow!

    The 650B Wheel is harder to tell what makes it so cool and different - and probably "better". Almost 1 Kilo Weightsaving is massive on a Wheelset and makes it difficult to describe if itīs the slightly bigger Size or the lighter Weight. Acceleration is a lot more effortless, just a few Pedalstrokes and you are up to Speed. Yes, slightly better Small-Bump-Absorbtion, slightly better Traction when Breaking and Cornering - but the last two depend very much on Tire-Choice. Less Stiffness? No - thatīs depending on the Wheelset-Buildquality. Mine is 1711 Gramms but feel as stiff as my Hardcore-26-Wheelset. Less playfull? No, not at all. With the 26 Dropouts the Difference was hard to notice. At least it gives a bit more Comfort on a long Bike-Day. And itīs a great Combination for those who donīt need 150 or 160 mm Travel in the Back!

    My Geometry-Settings werenīt touched yet. Still neutral Setting in the Back and -1 Deg Angleset = 74 Deg Seatangle and 65,5 Deg Headangle. Itīs bang on right there where others do their "650B-specific Geometry and Kinematics". But when it comes to Slackness ... well ... you know ...

    Damn - I love this Bike even more!

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    Hehehehe .. oh well
    Honestly - this is my first Time running bigger Wheels that 26 on a MTB, and it feels really good. Of course the Difference is not that much, so nothing really unexpected. For now Iīm very pleased with the Spitfire as it is, but might get a potential Buyer for the new Phantom in the Future, as I like Short(er) Travel with slack Geometry very much!

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    How about a quick answer. Looking on the web site I see the geo says it was figured on a 545 a-c fork, so I assume that is a 160mm fork? Is that the fork in most of the Pics and videos on the site a 160? What is a-c on a Fox 34 150mm 27.5?

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    Fox 34 650b at 150mm travel setting has an axle to crown height of 544.4mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Fox 34 650b at 150mm travel setting has an axle to crown height of 544.4mm.
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    Lovely Spitfire, from Seaotters Banshee-Booth:

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    I love my spitfire! The most fun frame I've ever ridden, every time I ride it it seems to get faster and faster. I just fitted a reverb and have had no problems with the post slipping! Been playing about with DBair, from the base tune I have taken off 1/2 turn of hrs and 1/2 turn hsc. For climbing I add 3 clicks of lsc and 2 lsr and for decending I back off the lsc 2 clicks this gives me a lively poppy feel which I like..


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    Nice Picture - and good to hear that you really enjoy the Spitfire!
    Love mine too. Never had so much fun for some Time, and the Wildcard already was a damn good Fun-Machine.

    Would like to try your CCDB-Settings, especially the slightly increase of HSR, instead of HSC alone, should help a little for the Pedalling.

    BTW: Any ongoing Desicions according to 650B? All I can say is: Donīt be afraid - 650B and Spitfire are a great Match!

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    Still can't decide on 650b don't want to have to buy new dropouts. If I was going to do it I would like to use my 10mm bolt thru hubs to build the wheels. I have taken off hrs and hsc by 1/2 click not increased it I think the bike rides well like this. Just back from a ride now and it had a lot of climbing so I added 4 lsc from base tune and 2lsr and it climbed amazing no bob or bouncing over roots etc, then at the top take off 2 lsc and fly back down... So my setting are hsc 1.5, hsr 1.5, lsr 14 and lsc 14 for climbing 12 decending 13mm sag, let me know what you think.

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    Heyho,

    Starting from the Base-Tune there was little Bob. Added 3 Clicks LSC and the Bob turns into a very little Pump. You donīt feel it, but you can see it. I was given the Advice to additional increase the LSR to slow the Motion a bit, so I have added 3 Clicks there, too. Iīm going to test it tomorrow. If I donīt feel the Bob than Iīm fine. Sag is 13 mm on mine, too -> HSC 2, LSC 13, HSR 2, LSC 13 to check.
    I have saved your Setup and will check it out tomorrow ...

    If you want to go with your 10 mm Bolt-Thru-Hub, which is of course reasonable, you may be limited in Tire-Choice on 650B. The HD 2.25 is great for Allday-Rides and is much more grippy than the 2.25 NobbyNic, plus thereīs enough Clearance. Iīm not sure if a bigger Tire fits clear enough, plus there are good grippy 650B Tires to be released the next few Weeks ...
    The Cross-Braces at the Short-Links offer plenty Clearance, but the Cross-Brace in the Middle and the vertical Strut on the Drive-Side limit the Clearance more than the other two Braces do. If Banshee would "redesign" these two all Dropouts could be shortened for 5 to 7 mm and would still give plenty Clearance.
    The 26 Dropouts with 650B would take a 2.35 or 2.4 only in dry Conditions I guess.
    Tough Desicion ...

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    Got my M spitfire last monday and built it up.
    It has been a really long wait aboout 3 1/2 months. I ordered a Frame using the Banshee Upgrade program and 2 weeks after my order I noticed a crack appearing around the BB on my old
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    Hi tokrot, I believe a lot of us had to wait Weeks or Months for our Frames, but it is worth the Wait - and especially in your Case - Perfect Timing!?!

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    New Spitty

    Been on a 5 rides so far and really loving it.
    I have not been riding my old rune for months because of a cracked frame just getting out on an old ss a few times, the v2 spitfire seems to be a very similar fit to my old rune even with the same 60mm stem? (maybe I been on ss too long)
    Pedalling position is different and feels much more positive, every pedal is more powerful. This bike is extremely stiff!
    Im 5'11" and glad I went M (same as my old rune)
    So far really happy with the Fox Float 34 65psi(factory banshee in black) I'm preferring to leave it in descend mode I don't find it brake dives that bad. Although it seems to stiffin up when it hasn't been working, not sure if that's a fault or not, for example If I leave it sittin for a while and push on handle bars in its like its in climb mode then eventually it 'frees up'
    I also prefer the rear fox in descend mode, rarely bottoms out with around 14-15mm sag. (180psi)
    Still playing with sus settings...
    I see a lot of riders love the Hans Damf, not real common in NZ, I have been riding 2.25 Maxxis Ardents for a couple of years great tire but I have burped both f&R about 8 times and just did it on the new spitty so they are gone sick of it. I have got some system 4 Intense and had some b4 the ardents and I really rate them, although my local trails are probably well suited to that sort of tire, mostly hard packed dirt and the odd tree root, conditions stay fairly consistent summer winter.
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    I want to raise the BB a bit and keep it slack, but cant find an external lower 56mm cup headset. Is there such a thing, or is there any way to add a spacer to the fork crown? 1.5 steerer

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    Haven't seen a 56mm external lower. I'd go Works Components angle set and put the flip chips in the high setting
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    I havenīt found an external 1.5 Cup yet. Woudnīt it be better to go with steeper Flip-Chip-Setting and Angleset? As far as I know these have external Cup for 1.5, plus you can adjust the HA if you like.

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    Thanks for the reply's

    Aren't anglesets like $200-$300. I want to raise the BB, not just slacken the HA
    I have a full 1.5 will that even work.
    I've been riding in the steep setting for the old school shore trails just to try to avoid pedal smacks, but want to slacken it by .5 degree.
    A new external lower cup would be the answer as it would raise my axle to crown. It would slacken it as well as raise the BB. Don't really have the money for an angleset.
    I guess you cant put your crown race on some kind of spacer?

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    Hmmm yes ... the CCs are more expensive if you buy them as a complete Set (several Cups included). For one single Angle the Works-Components are cheaper, plus no upcharge for Custom-Order.
    So far I havenīt found an external Cup for your Configuration. Iīm not sure if Spacing works properly - maybe a Bike-Shop can give an Answer?!? So maybe an -0,5 or -1 Deg Angleset with lower external Cup could be your Ticket.

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    The CC anglesets are available in a 56 EC (external cup) version, AFAIK they are the only external 56 cups available so far.

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    Install a 650B front wheel only (fork depending of course) is another option. Or front and back both which will raise the BB at least 1/2".
    2013 Banshee Spitfire V2 650b

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Install a 650B front wheel only (fork depending of course) is another option. Or front and back both which will raise the BB at least 1/2".
    I would start there!


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    This would be a good Option too, but by far more expensive ...

    But: The Banshee Geometry-Charts are very accurate! My BB is at 345 mm in neutral Setting and 650B. Already low enough and could go lower!

    At least MartinS has it - unfortunately there is no external 56 mm lower Cup at the moment.

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    Measured several times, my bb is 13.25" in the steep setting.
    Website says 13.5"
    Also the wheel base is 1/2" longer, which is considerably longer than manufactures website.
    BTW I have minions 2.35 x 26 and 545mm lyric

    I wish both of these were what is listed on the manufactures site.
    .......and then there is the weight they list.

    I don't find Banshees info accurate atoll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nescafe View Post
    ... I don't find Banshees info accurate atoll.
    Hmm ... my Measurements are all correct, with both Wheelsizes, due to A2C-Height of my Fork and ZS-Headset?!?

    Anyway: Doesnīt help you for your External Cup-Dilemma ... :-/

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    Here is mine again. Had the Chance to switch Frames with a german Guy who didnīt feel really comfortable on his new large Frame. I was unsure myself if medium is the really perfect Size for me. After a Phonecall we made it happen.

    I have to check a new Chain-Device, or going Clutch-Derailler. Maybe a 40 mm Stem does fit the bill 100%, but itīs good as it is.

    This one has the -0,5 Deg Angleset, so Geometry is:
    - Flip-Chip neutral
    - Seatangle 74 Deg
    - Headangle 66 Deg
    - BB 346 mm
    - 650B Wheels in 26" Dropouts
    - Wheelbase: 1182 mm

    Did some Modifications on the Frame that will void Warranty, but this Baby is here to stay for some Years ...
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