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    [QUOTE=builttoride;10060159 While I've been told the vengeance works with 27.5, I don't think it would work very well in the thick mus we have here. I personally run my spitfire in 26".[/QUOTE]

    OK, I guess I'm asking this: If Banshee were offering built kits for these bikes, then what fork would Banshee be spec'ing the V2 with, in a 27.5 config?

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    Fox 34 27.5 would probably be what our distributors would ask for.
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    10-4, thanks!

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    For those who have Interest, Bernhard the german Banshee-Distributor gave me some Info about his Spitfire:

    He himself is 174 cm tall, with 78 cm Inseam and rides Sizes Medium. Stem-Length is 60 mm, Bars are 740 mm wide. He would suggest to go with Size Large for those who are 180 cm and taller, while another Rider with my Body-Measurements (181/85 cm) demorode it and felt pretty comfortable on Size Medium ... so should I, hopefully ...

    Weigth is 12,3 kg, BB-Heigth is 32,7 cm with the 150 Fox Float and ZS-Headset, slack Setting.

    His Impressions (in short Terms):
    - Rides great, feels/maneuvers directly
    - Rear-End is very stiff
    - Feels very planted/saturated on the Trail due to the low BB
    - Climbs "like a Goat" due to the steep Seatangle
    - He overall likes the Geometry very very much
    - Rear Suspension feels more than 14 cm Travel
    - Can be setup very plush without bottoming
    - When pedalling seated the Rear is neutral, with open/no Propedal
    - Out of the Saddle the Rear sags more, but not very much bobbing - at least less than other VPP-Designs
    - Can be easily tuned more firm due to the Fox CTD

    Hope it helps a little!

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    Awesome build, mine will be very similar except in 650B mode and with KS LEV dropper. Should be built by the end of the next week. Then it's mini winter vacation time to Pisgah NC.

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    For those who have Interest, Bernhard the german Banshee-Distributor gave me some Info about his Spitfire:

    He himself is 174 cm tall, with 78 cm Inseam and rides Sizes Medium. Stem-Length is 60 mm, Bars are 740 mm wide. He would suggest to go with Size Large for those who are 180 cm and taller, while another Rider with my Body-Measurements (181/85 cm) demorode it and felt pretty comfortable on Size Medium ... so should I, hopefully ...

    Weigth is 12,3 kg, BB-Heigth is 32,7 cm with the 150 Fox Float and ZS-Headset, slack Setting.

    His Impressions (in short Terms):
    - Rides great, feels/maneuvers directly
    - Rear-End is very stiff
    - Feels very planted/saturated on the Trail due to the low BB
    - Climbs "like a Goat" due to the steep Seatangle
    - He overall likes the Geometry very very much
    - Rear Suspension feels more than 14 cm Travel
    - Can be setup very plush without bottoming
    - When pedalling seated the Rear is neutral, with open/no Propedal
    - Out of the Saddle the Rear sags more, but not very much bobbing - at least less than other VPP-Designs
    - Can be easily tuned more firm due to the Fox CTD

    Hope it helps a little!

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    Thanks NoStyle, great info, my order has been placed.
    Last edited by hrdude; 01-11-2013 at 05:38 PM.

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    Double post

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    X2...thanks for getting that info NoStyle. Lots of positives but I especially like the "climbs like a goat" part.

    Now I just need to sell my 2011 Jamis Dakar 650 B2 with less than 250 miles on it before I can order a new Spitty frame. The Dakar is really a sweet bike but I feel the Banshee is more what I'm after.

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    If things go well my ordered Parts will hopefully arrive during the next week, so I can start building up mine - and give more Impressions, if wanted.

    Greetings
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    - Did Anyone try a 190mm shock in the New Spitfire?
    -is it worth running a db air in that travel range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kijan View Post
    - Did Anyone try a 190mm shock in the New Spitfire?
    -is it worth running a db air in that travel range?

    Been using a DB air since they came out and it is totally worth it in any travel range!

    And does anyone have a frame weight yet?
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    Did anyone already run a db air in the new spitty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlongb13 View Post
    And does anyone have a frame weight yet?
    Yes, someone please get one of these frames on a scale
    2013 Banshee Spitfire V2 650b

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Yes, someone please get one of these frames on a scale
    Banshee's site has it listed as 5.86 lbs. I'm assuming that's for a medium size but not sure if that includes shock or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrdude View Post
    Banshee's site has it listed as 5.86 lbs. I'm assuming that's for a medium size but not sure if that includes shock or not.

    Those specs are still for the old frame
    2013 Banshee Spitfire V2 650b

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    I Just weighed a medium Raw production V2 Spitfire, with the 142 drop outs and axel, derailer hanger, Fox CTD shock, and Banshee seat clamp and the weight was 8.09 lbs.

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    Wow a whole lbs heavier than the old one...

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    Try 2lb heavier.

    Holy crap. 8lb?!?! That is insane. Probably be a medium black ano for sale by the end of next week.

    When aluminum 160mm bikes are coming in under 7lb, a 140mm trail bike at 8lb is crazy. Sure hope that is wrong.
    Last edited by Dlongb13; 01-13-2013 at 11:07 AM.

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    Well....the red built up bike pictured above is "supposed" to be 27.1lbs which is a very respectable weight. Add XX1 and you could save maybe another pound. Ok, it doesn't have a dropper post or beefy forks so that would bring it closer to a 30lb weight I suppose. Not having owned a V1 Spitfire I'm not sure if that's good or bad but both my bikes now are around the 30lb mark so I'd be cool with that. Especially knowing the Banshee can take a beating.

    Still a few more frame weight checks would be nice and fully built bikes also. Patience I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Well....the red built up bike pictured above is "supposed" to be 27.1lbs which is a very respectable weight. Add XX1 and you could save maybe another pound. Ok, it doesn't have a dropper post or beefy forks so that would bring it closer to a 30lb weight I suppose. Not having owned a V1 Spitfire I'm not sure if that's good or bad but both my bikes now are around the 30lb mark so I'd be cool with that. Especially knowing the Banshee can take a beating.

    Still a few more frame weight checks would be nice and fully built bikes also. Patience I guess.
    Yeah the red one is light but like you said, fox 32 and a carbon post. And I am going 1x10 with full XTR b/c it is lighter than XX1. Wish I knew the weight of the wheels on the red one so I could do some math here.

    This is supposed to be my Enduro/Super D race bike, chose it over Carbon Divinci Dixon due to the 650B factor, just hoping I didn't make a bike mistake. I raced on a 30.5 lb Nomad last year and I don't want to be in that range again this year.

    Banshee really needs to update their website, that 5,86 number is incredibly misleading.

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    8.09 That's slightly more than the Prime weights that have been posted. Was kind of expecting the Spitfire to be at least a pound less.
    Last edited by hrdude; 01-13-2013 at 03:11 PM.

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    Here's the build list from the red bike. Do some digging and you can figure out some weights. Frame is around 7.5lbs but by a scale I don't know.

    The weight is great, so are the Parts. Here´s an Overview the owner gave me:

    Rear Derailleur, Triggers, Brakes, Chain and Cassette: Shimano XTR
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    Fork Fox 32 Float RLC
    Wheelset: DT 240 mit XM450TL Felgen und Messerspeichen
    Handlebars: Syntace Vector Carbon 740mm
    Stem: Syntace F109 60mm
    Headset: Pivot
    Handles: Pivot
    Seatpost: P6 carbon hiflex
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal
    Tubes: Kenda

    The owner of the red Spitfire stated around 3,4 kg Frameweight with Shock, Dropouts and Seatclamp.
    2013 Banshee Spitfire V2 650b

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    After the bushing issues I guess they are not taking any chances with frame breaking.

    We need a scale shot

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    Wonder how many holes I can drill in the frame to shave weight.

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