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    St Andrews

    Well it was cold and foggy, we heard later it didn't get to 10 degrees!
    Mitchell and I arrived at the general store at 11.30. The ride took 3.5 hours but this included multiple stops for teething problems with the new bike, photos, and some back tracking when we got a bit lost. We both weren't feeling great either so the ride should've been around three hours. Lots of singletrack, the odd fire road, back country gravel roads and some tar. Lots of climbs and descents. Good views normally but damp and dripping today. Quite fun riding in the foggy stillness. Got back to the general store and had a well-deserved tall cappacino and gourmet pie in front of an open fire, nice!
    Store owner is a MTB'er and he sat with us for 15 mins talking MTB. It turns out St Andrews is becoming bit of a hot spot for mtb, the guy is doing some grassroots work with the council re mtb access.
    Looking forward to next saturday if the weather is ok and everything works out.
    St Andrews is between the yarra valley and Eltham, mostly east and a bit north of the city. The ride is suited to hardtails and short travel dualies, ideally.
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    Nice photos mate I'll be there next saturday... looks like some sweet trails.

    And i see you took the new ride out for it's maiden voyage- very sweet!

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    A few more pics

    Well, I interupted the flow of our ride to take these, so i might as well post 'em up.
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    Is that near Diamond Creek? Looks great! Can you get there by train?

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    You could take the train to Hurstbridge. From there it looks about 10km of road riding to get to the start point. Could be some fair sized hills on Cherry Tree Road too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    You could take the train to Hurstbridge. From there it looks about 10km of road riding to get to the start point. Could be some fair sized hills on Cherry Tree Road too.
    I ride in that area a fair bit on the roady, and I can assure you there is no shortage of hills .

    Edit: Just checked the map and while I haven't ridden any part of most direct hurstbridge-St Andrews route, I have ridden it via a different route, and it's downhill most of the way (steep for a few K, gradual after that). You're going to be in for a ***** climb somewhere on the way in, but on the plus side getting back to Hurstbridge afterwards will be easy.
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    I rode in there on Sunday Morning. The Ridge Rd singletrack rocked.
    If you were to go direct from Hurstbrige to ST Andrews and then climb up to Smiths Gully that would be relatively easy with no big climbs.
    Alternatively start the ride from St Andrews.
    I'm in Diamond Creek and am planning to do it from home one day
    Station st D/C over the Gipson st bridge
    Up Broadgully rd Cross over to singletrack at HT lines3/4 of the way up the hill
    Climb up Wilsons rd hit singletrack on right side at top
    Back down to Main rd head back toward D/C up WattleGlen Rd, Valley rd- hard climbe turn onto Thorns rd and onto Watery Gully rd.
    Hit the main rd at the top and head out through Panton hill to Smiths Gully do ride ride back same way except this time follow singletrack on Watery Gully/ Flat Rock Rd into Hurstbridge back along the main Rd to D/C.
    I estimate about 65Km and 5 hrs later

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    Cheers for the directions. Might have to check it out some time!

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    Feel free to come along on saturday Woody, if you can make it. Time hasn't been organised yet, somewhere between 9-10am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Feel free to come along on saturday Woody, if you can make it. Time hasn't been organised yet, somewhere between 9-10am?
    I'm in warragul- and i'm not getting up for 6 or 7 am this weekend! (its been a huge week).

    How long does it take from here... what do you reckon?


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    haha, fair enough. I'd say it'd take a couple of hours, give or take. It won't be critical if you're 20mins late. The earlier the better as there will be less walkers, not that you see many. Check that route I described, it should be 100km/h travel most of the way. What time do you want to arrive?

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    hmmmm.. just found out that friends are coming to town and saturday morning/ early arvo is now out Sorry for piking... have a good one *shakes fist at sky*

    Maybe i'll see you all at chase the sun



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    Another time. Anyway, it'll allow me to do a bit more exploring that I wanted to do.
    If anyone else wants to come let me know. Time is flexible.

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    Hud,
    I would be interested for Sunday morning. I wouldn't be available till after 2 on Saturday

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    Sorry, it's been organised again for 10am saturday. Leaving it til 2pm means you'd be pushing it to get back before dark and all the pies would be gone.

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    cheers
    maybe next time
    have a good ride

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    Nice new bike Hud! Pity I couldn't make it, let me know next time you're planning on going

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Well it was cold and foggy, we heard later it didn't get to 10 degrees!
    How's about -8degC at noon today? (in NZ)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haggis
    How's about -8degC at noon today? (in NZ)

    wow! Nice picture..... My wife and I are moving to Christchurch next year... we can't wait

    *jealous!*

    Where are you based? South Island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilostmypassword
    wow! Nice picture..... My wife and I are moving to Christchurch next year... we can't wait

    *jealous!*

    Where are you based? South Island?

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    Dunedin, S.I. Fairly rare heavy snow fall, all rained off now, but fun while it lasted.

    Christchurch has some tasty track: Port Hills, Craigeburn, Wharfdale. You'll like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haggis
    Dunedin, S.I. Fairly rare heavy snow fall, all rained off now, but fun while it lasted.

    Christchurch has some tasty track: Port Hills, Craigeburn, Wharfdale. You'll like it.
    Sweet We have visited CC a few times this year and spent sometime at Mt Hutt/ Southern Alps too. It's just mind blowing how good the outdoor activities are- we know we won't be disappointed when we shift

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    I decided to explore a bit today. Found some more great tracks. Most of the ride was on shale, gravel, and hardpacked clay. The only ride I've really enjoyed lately in the wet conditions.

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    I must have missed this thread somewhere along the way. It looks like a nice area, it reminds me of a couple of local Tassie rides in terms of trail and terrain.

    Nothing like a good explore, uncovering new gems and riding somewhere new!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Feel free to come along on saturday Woody, if you can make it. Time hasn't been organised yet, somewhere between 9-10am?
    Sorry for not replying earlier Hud. Havnt been on in a while. Thanks for the offer though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low_Rider
    I must have missed this thread somewhere along the way. It looks like a nice area, it reminds me of a couple of local Tassie rides in terms of trail and terrain.

    Nothing like a good explore, uncovering new gems and riding somewhere new!

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    Same- I don't get in here much these days. Maybe email me HUD with some dates- I'll see what I can sort out- hanging out for some dry trails to get some KM's up!

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    This saturday might be ok. It's the only area I'm riding at the moment. The trouble with finding new tracks is I have to incorporate them into my loop.

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    Next Saturday is the big one!

    Ok, I'll try and get a MTBR ride happening. Saturday- meet at 10.30?
    To be confirmed later in the week. I'd judge it to be 35km, with a possible extra loop that involes a little backtracking.

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    No other takers? Come on, don't you get bored with Lysterfield?
    This ride is not all singletrack, but that makes it a good social ride.

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    Hi Hud, do you know if there are any trail maps available for around St.Andrews?? I'm unable to make riding in St.Andrews for a few weeks, mtb tour of California is on the cards instead, but would be keen to hook up with a group that knows their way around up there from around mid-October onwards. Trying to work out a training loop to incorporate Kinglake to get ready for the Otways in Feb.

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    Sorry guys- due to lack of interest- i'm now out.

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    J_775. I just use the Melways -and explore, I have been riding the area for years though. ORCA 1st edition may be a help to you.

    ILMP. Don't worry about your piker mates come along anyway.

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    J_775. I just use the Melways -and explore, I have been riding the area for years though. ORCA 1st edition may be a help to you.

    ILMP. Don't worry about your piker mates come along anyway.

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    J_775. I just use the Melways -and explore, I have been riding the area for years though. ORCA 1st edition may be a help to you.

    ILMP. Don't worry about your piker mates come along anyway.

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    J_775. I just use the Melways -and explore, I have been riding the area for years though. ORCA 1st edition may be a help to you.

    ILMP. Don't worry about your piker mates come along anyway.

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    Whoops, don't know what happened there, oh well.

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    Wink

    You trying to get your post count up?? Kidding.. Thanks for the info.. Chased up the Smith's Gully and Jerulsalem rides from ORCA edn1. Seems there is a lot more single track out there than what's on the maps though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    J_775. I just use the Melways -and explore, I have been riding the area for years though. ORCA 1st edition may be a help to you.

    ILMP. Don't worry about your piker mates come along anyway.
    Sorry dude- i've made plans to go to Walkerville and lay in the sun reading magazines all weekend

    Have a good one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilostmypassword
    Sorry dude- i've made plans to go to Walkerville and lay in the sun reading magazines all weekend

    Have a good one
    Will do- found some more awesome tracks out there yesterday, this push the loop to around 40km I'd imagine.

    J_775, the ORCA book actually misses virtually all of the good stuff, including the Ridge road ST. It does give you some knowledge of the area though.

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    Hi all,
    A mate and I are heading out to St A. this saturday meet around 9.30 at the general store. Length depends on conditions.
    Highly recommended. Nuke_powered it's not too far from Heidleberg

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    You guys ok for a St.A's virgin to tag along?? Will confirm whether I can make it in the next couple of days. By general store, do you mean just accross from St.A's market, or is that the pub??

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    Sure that will be fine. I take it your pretty fit? The ride has plenty of hills.
    The store is actually at Smiths Gully 1km or so from St A. Melways: 264 e3.
    I'll have to confirm later in the week too.

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    Ok, I'm in for Sat. Guess we'll find out about fitness then.. I'm entered in the Otway caper, so have to ride some hills at some point..First hitout on the new rig too, hopefully it all stays together. Was going to get the train to Hursty and then do a warm up road ride out to the shop from there.

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    No worries. We'll be at the shop around 9:30. my mobile is 0427 100 469. Take it in case you have some dramas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Hi all,
    A mate and I are heading out to St A. this saturday meet around 9.30 at the general store. Length depends on conditions.
    Highly recommended. Nuke_powered it's not too far from Heidleberg
    Although I'm a week late - this weekend may prove to be an excellent time to do some exploring - given it's a (potential) 4 dayer. Might follow the directions throughout this thread and see what I can find out there...

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