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    I would like to head out but can't this Saturday. Next Sat should be ok for me.

    Re ideas for an extra 10 km for the reverse loop - sorry I missed the bit that heads out towards Panton Hill, my bad. Tree over the track there is gone now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
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    Re ideas for an extra 10 km for the reverse loop - sorry I missed the bit that heads out towards Panton Hill, my bad. Tree over the track there is gone now.
    Sorry but I don't understand what you mean. Maybe a 15 hr working day does that to you...
    Are you talking about the loop that starts near the antique store? I don't think we ever took you on that.

    I'll be doing a 'late start' heading out there around 10am or so.
    Enjoy your weekend all.

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    I made the mistake of heading straight up Broad Acres at the five way junction; I missed the bit that heads over the bridge up Long Gully and up and then goes across to Bakehouse and then down south, around and back up to five ways again. I now see there are at least two ways to get back, long and short, and there are other tracks to explore in the area too although they probably all meet up. Now you have me interested about a loop near the antique store. Something new to check out.

    Have fun out there tomorrow.

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    There is one we call the 'mineshaft' descent which is good but cuts off a lot of the normal loop. It comes out on Long Gully near where the Long gully ST ends. There is another track that comes down and joins 'mineshaft' at the end though it's not worth doing. This one is just a steep and short section has steel stakes hammered in each side of it. IMO if you reach this -turn around and do something else.

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    Hey Hud,

    Any idea how long we will be out there for?

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    It was like old times, just Mitchell and I today. mys Trix pulled out which was a shame because I was keen to see his new bike. It was bucketing in the Yarra Valley as I drove out, but once I was over the Christmas Hills blue sky appeared and there was no rain for the duration of the ride. Plenty of moisture hitting us from underneath though.
    As it was just the two of us we did a shortened version of the reverse loop, and then did some poking around near Sugarloaf that I'd been wanting to do for a while. We did Mitchells Trail in both directions - the off camber stuff near the dams was very tricky in the wet. A coffee in front of the open fire was a real treat at the end of the ride.

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    What's Mitchell's Trail like to ride?

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    Great! - In both directions. Ross really likes it too.

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    Ok, so what did you find in your "poking around"? Potential to extend Mitchell's Trail further?

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    ....and most importantly, did you find a better way around the wasp nest?

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    The wasp nest was detoured around some time ago, though they seem to be gone anyway. (Flooded out?)
    The next area to be developed will be east of the Hermits Hut (Occupied). We should be able to have some fast middle ring ST across more open and grassy terrrain looping across some dam banks etc.

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    So you gonna herd us cats together for a ride this weekend or what Hud?

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    Sounds good, unless it's raining cats and dogs.
    So - Classic, Reverse or Yarra Ridge? Maybe we should ask Waldog, since he's very in.
    Let's make it a big one, Pagey and Piker have been making noises for a while.
    Say a 9:30 start at this point.

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    How about the Classic Ride? See you Saturday.

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    yeah sure let's do the classic..... buggered if i know the difference between them. on thing for sure though, we need to get as many as we can out there!!!! get into it guys!!

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    What about that one we did a while ago:
    Back of store, Boomers to 5 ways, climb to Motchalls then down, left and through to EYG, Up to top of Ridge via sneaky tracks, down Ridge, along Alma, LG, then easy way home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    What about that one we did a while ago:
    Back of store, Boomers to 5 ways, climb to Motchalls then down, left and through to EYG, Up to top of Ridge via sneaky tracks, down Ridge, along Alma, LG, then easy way home?
    I like the sound of that, especially the last three words.

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    Can we add Bunjil to that, maybe shortcut down mineshaft if it's looking a bit wet?

    (Actually I have no idea what the Classic Ride is, I was hoping to find out by doing it...)
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    Classic is down to St A Markets, through reserve alongside creek and across, along Smiths Gully Rd to One Tree Hill Road, down One Tree Hill, stupid climb to top of Rob Roy, down to EYG road near climb to Ridge Rd. The rest is variable but usually includes Bunjil.

    I don't like this one for the climbs. By default, I'd say neither does Waldog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    Classic is down to St A Markets, through reserve alongside creek and across, along Smiths Gully Rd to One Tree Hill Road, down One Tree Hill, stupid climb to top of Rob Roy, down to EYG road near climb to Ridge Rd. The rest is variable but usually includes Bunjil.

    I don't like this one for the climbs. By default, I'd say neither does Waldog.
    Yeah, what he said.

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    Thanks N_P. It sounds like a variant of the ORCA SGS ride.

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    Can't make it after all. Not a happy camper. Hoping to head out tomorrow arvo for my fix.

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    We no longer have our esteemed leader, so is it still on?

    Cough, cough....you yangs?

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    I might still head out there.

    (I know my way around, however there is much less esteem)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    I might still head out there.

    (I know my way around, however there much less esteem)
    I'm up for that. time?

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    Just waiting to hear from some others, but 9.00 is good for me.

    Cowpat - keen? May not include your level of stamina though.

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    Will be heading out for a brief ride after all. Probalby will start riding around 7:00-7:30 and must head for home by 10am. Hopefully will bump into you guys at some point.

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    Whoah! 7:00 am, that's even a bit early for me, wintertime anyways. Maybe we'll see you sitting in front of the warm fire at the store.

    I'll join N_P for the second wave at 9:00, unless N_P decides to make an early start too.

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    Hey....

    Hey, ...........if only it was a Sunday gathering, Id dust off the trance and join you guys. Although youve all been doing some serious km's over the last few weeks. I might struggle a bit if your planning an epic.

    Thinking of a you yangs ride soon, Waldog let me know next time youre heading out there and i'll try and join you.

    Cheers

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    No I'll be doing a quick solo loop, NP should stick with the others.

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    Will be sure to let you know wombat!!!

    I'll be there at 9.00 tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    No I'll be doing a quick solo loop, NP should stick with the others.
    I'm smiling at the inference: Hud doing a 'quick' loop - hence I should not join him

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    Nonono - I mean I won't be out there for long enough for it to be worthwhile....
    Yes, that was badly worded sorry.
    Actually I now have decided I will just go on a quick jaunt up to Silvan to check out some trails. I came to the conclusion that trying to ride St A. tomorrow was flogging a dying horse. I'm depressed, so I'll want a good ride report about it tomorrow.
    Enjoy your day.

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    Was nice...


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    Agree - a very enjoyable ride today. Riders were Waldog, Cowpat, Daz & myself. Did the same ride we did a while ago: Back of shop, Boomers to 5-ways, BroadAcres climb, Motchalls descent, Gills Rd to EYG (no sign of Albino Roo), Hud/Mitchells track up to top of Ridge Rd, Alma, LG Rd, Blue House back to shop. Ran into someone Cowpat knew coming down Hud/Mitchells trail (though not sure he rode the whole lot), on a GF 29er - nice looking rig with American Classic rims. Ever seen anyone else there Hud?

    Tracks in extremely good, sticky condition. Nice & damp without being too slippery. Few bogs on trail to 5-ways. But yeah, an awesome 3 hour ride.

    Boecastle Moroccan Lamb pie at the Gen Store is the shiznit.

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    I had the lamb pie last time I was there - very nice.
    Never seen anyone else on the new trails - but Ross has told a few of his mates about it, could've been one of them. Did you notice up the top just before you come out on the road - an extension has been marked in to give another 100m or so of trail.
    Boomers Bogs always seem to remain there for a while. It goes without saying that you rode straight through them and not around them causing track widening??
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    Straight through .... slowly.

    EDIT: Sorry - forgot to asnwer question - can't remember the last (first) time I rode the new track too well (fatigue) so I can't say I noticed anything different up the top. All I do know is that I prefer that muchos more than the old way to the top.
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    I'm thinking after a week of rain it'll be appropriate to hit up the (tweaked by Cowpat - less climbing) Yarra Ridge loop this saturday...

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    could be good...

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    The Yarra Ridge loop including Watsons was dry today, although I did not ride the loamy singletrack by the road near Skyline (rode the loop backwards, more climbing that way ). Some new track out there too, someone's been constructing stuff (little dropoff ramp).

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    I'm most keen for the fabled Yarra ridge loop, haven't had the pleasure yet, and I have a signed leave pass. What's the plan for departure?? General store at 9am??

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    I think after the rain we are about to get tonight, Yarra Ridge will be the go. P_Duck, that is the one we did last time.
    The last few times we have been meeting at 9.30, being winter and all and it works well.
    Suppose I'll confirm tomorrow night.

    Hey all,
    a week or so ago I pulled into a excavation site in Dandenong to do a delivery and who ambles out of the portable office to direct me, but J_775, now what are the odds of that?

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    I'm in too. Singlespeed? Or wussy geared bike?

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    Wussy geared bike for me as I am soft and unfit. Hey Hud, those odds are pretty long hey.. I'm just about over that work site, never been on a job for so long with so little to show for it, so was good to break it up with a familiar face.. Catch you Satdee.

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    I don't like riding by myself so I will be bringing the Superlight.
    Looks likely that Ross from the shop will be coming as well.
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    I'll be there on the new rig, all being well. I need a bit more fitness before I try the singlespeed again! I did enjoy it though, in spite of being close to throwing in the towel at the top of the first big hill.

    J_775. I have a signed leave pass too. Did your wife sign yours? Looks like a pattern here: signed leave passes, soft and unfit, and a wife.

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    Hey all,

    I plan on being there tomorrow, hopefully on my Yeti.
    So it was 9.30?

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    Yes.
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    St Andrews was cold. Great day though.

    New bike was great too. Everything I hoped for: climbs like a hardtail, but smooths out the ruff stuff. Lefty is great, very stiff.

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    Freezing cold today like H_bro said. Not so bad in the trees. but the ridges were windy and bitterly cold. Got some pics,
    but the camera was playing up in the cold, so no action shots. Camera was fine when I got home though.
    Great ride, and we were honoured to have the great man Ross ride with us (shop owner) Riders present were J_775 on his bi-monthly ride and his mate Stuart, Myself, Hud's Brother, Mystrix and Cowpat. H_bro and mystrix on their new rides
    The logs were pretty slippery but the trails were in good condition despite all the rain in the last week. At one point between Yarra Ridge and Bundy track we came across a family of deer, with both parties quite startled. A dad, mum and a half grown little one. At one point I was riding with a bit of pace about 10m away from the female. They are very quick, sort of jumping forward explosively.
    Much fun had on Errol's techy xc trails, I'm really starting to like them. Found some new trails that had been cut in with Cowpat showing us how to do a 4 foot drop off a ramp. More exploring to be done there.
    I was struggling all day and was ready to collapse by the time I got back, not sure what I did wrong today.
    Had a huge feed in front of the open fire at the shop, and yarned with Ross for a couple of hours about bikes and trails.

    Good times

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    Pre ride yarn and bike fettling.
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    Great ride today, Ross was setting a cracking pace.

    Hud you did say you hadn't had your Weeties this morning, that's got to have something to do with it. And the cold too, bitterly cold snow weather.

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    I was slow as a wet week too. Had a good breakfast and plenty of tucker on the trail, but I struggled most of the day. The downhills were ok though!

    What about you Casper? The cold didn't seem to slow you up much!

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    Great ... the one time you guys are riding at my pace and I miss it.

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    I rode out to YR yesterday and had a look about.

    That new trail that heads off from the dropoff ramp forms a loop about 300 m long, best ridden anticlockwise. A lot of work has gone into that 300 metres! There is a little junction that heads up part way around the trail but it goes nowhere.

    Errols Track continues on back down the hill into the gully from the spot we had lunch, however it is not finished; it peters out about 2/3 of the way down. A lot of work has gone into that too. Nice sweeping curves down the gully. From a walk around the area I can see some good wombat trails that might be used to complete the track quite easily. They would sidle around to the left and join the vehicle track that heads down the hill from where we had lunch, making a nice loop.

    I did not see any easy way to get between there and the dam. The wombats have not been very organised in that area - it's a mess.

    The trail heading off across the dam and out would take a little work to make rideable. It heads up towards some existing trail with a little old woodwork. I did not follow the track to it's end so I don't know where it goes. Maybe to the vehicle tracks that head down further west in the area. I'll have a look another day.

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    Found: bicycle toolkit

    If anyone has lost a small bicycle toolkit in a hard black plastic case somewhere around Boomers you can pick it up from Ross at the shop. Jill at Blue House passed it on to me.

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    Sounds good. Last time I checked Errols trail seemed to peter out just below where we had lunch. I'll try and check it all out some time.
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    Spent the arvo helping Errol put in another 200m of trail. His latest section is incredibley well made. With contours and switch backs working down the hill, there will be no erosion or environmental harm with this track. Actually he has cleaned up rubbish and removed some pitosporum trees. Feel kinda guilty talking about this when we have the other thread going, but there is no harm in these tracks and no-one will know about 'em.
    Heading out to St A tommorrow with Mitch for a loop of some descriotion, 9.30.
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    Alright there is a week of dry weather ahead of us and saturday's forecast is 19C!
    Mitchell, who some of you know is moving to the West for a fair length of time to work in the mines, so it would be good to give him a send off in appreciation of all his trail work (in the form of a ride of course!)
    So I'm thinking a big gathering of riders would be great and we can do either a Yarra Ridge (a lot of new trails out there now) loop or a reverse loop of some description. All welcome.
    (To be confirmed later in the week)
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    Hud, i would love to join Mitchell and yourself next weekend for what would be a fine send off indeed. But, unfortunately i will be in Canberra for the world cup.

    Sorry mate. Would really have loved to head out!!

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    Hmm...forgot about that, possibly a few people will be away for that weekend, not sure if he'll still be around for the following weekend, maybe we'll do a ride both w/ends!
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    Yeah, I'd like to be a part of that - but like Waldog I will be in Canb next weekend (well ... actually ... )

    (so Mitchell's doing the FIFO?)

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    For sure I'll be in that, if I can, but there's a good chance I shan't be able to make it. I won't know until later this week though. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to do Sunday though, or next weekend.

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    Google searched 'FIFO' and Wikipedia says "First in-First Out' and a long description. The meaning is still unclear sorry Something to do with organizing / priority?
    Anyway he wants to own his own home one day and figures this is the way to do it. Pretty hard to do - Leaving his bikes and missus behind (in that order)
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    Fly In, Fly out?

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    (so Mitchell's doing the FIFO?)

    I think so. Coming back once a month is his plan but who knows?
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    cowpat got it - the new way to describe people who work in that field, but don't live near that field, so to speak.

    There's even a website for such men to find women who are into FIFO men: http://meetaminingman.com.au/

    (Not that Mitchell needs this, obviously, but I first heard the term FIFO used when I saw the story about the women who created the above dating site. I found the concept kinda funny, since the women who would be using such a service would be after a man who is mostly not there, but brings in a lot of money... hence being 'gold diggers')

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    cowpat got it - the new way to describe people who work in that field, but don't live near that field, so to speak.

    There's even a website for such men to find women who are into FIFO men: http://meetaminingman.com.au/

    (Not that Mitchell needs this, obviously, but I first heard the term FIFO used when I saw the story about the women who created the above dating site. I found the concept kinda funny, since the women who would be using such a service would be after a man who is mostly not there, but brings in a lot of money... hence being 'gold diggers')
    Kinda sounds like Farmer wants a wife.... but not......

    Damn energy drink delerium.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    cowpat got it - the new way to describe people who work in that field, but don't live near that field, so to speak.

    There's even a website for such men to find women who are into FIFO men: http://meetaminingman.com.au/
    WTF! The saying used to be "only in America" now its also "only in Australia" haha.

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    Hope I'm not banging this drum in vain again...
    Ross and I, and perhaps some others are doing the Yarra Ridge loop this saturday (9:30 at the store) to check out the new trails. Would be great to have some of the MTBR crew along again...
    40km, lots of hills but great fun and a bunch of fun technical singletrack.
    Mitch has literally gone west so I'm low on riding buddies, Cowleyd you still around?
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    See you at the shop.

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    Hey Hud,

    Would have loved to have come but was without a car (lent to the bro to go skiing). Rode up to Warbuton and back instead. Let me know if you go out next week, I'm getting sick of riding by myself plus it makes you a target for the maggies (3 times today, bringing the air rifle next time!)

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    I'm going up to St Andrews with a few mates on Sunday 28th 8:30 am at the Store
    I'd like to learn some of these tracks that you guys do but Saturday does not work for me
    Anyone interested?

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    Guys - I;m keen to meet up at St Andrews anytime a crew is heading out. Pls pm me. I've never ridden the trails out there but saw a crew a few weeks ago - on a Saturday (I was on my roadie at the store)

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    Last time I was out there ( a few sat's ago) I leant my chain breaker to a roadie who was
    walking up there in his socks with a broken chain - certainly made his day!

    I Like Dirt, how'd you go out there?
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    Sundays St Andrews Ride

    Hi Hud,
    ended up a bit of an epic we started out from Diamond Creek taking in some of the local singletrack on route to the shop - we were an hour in by the time we got there.
    We had a great ride but I think we are missing some of the best singletrack up there.
    In your rides how does the Ridge rd ST stack up - highlight of our ride - not that that is bad
    Ended up 60 kms with about 15 of these on the asphalt so did not do too badly I think
    Really have to try to hook up with you blokes some time


    Oh I have just heard a whisper of a local (to St Andrews etc) MTB club being formed

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    Ridge Road is certainly a highlight in anyones book. But yeah it's easy to miss a lot of the trails. The start/finish of a few of them are deliberately low key to keep the moto's out. Mitchells Trail (the way we get to the top of RR) being one of these.
    I've heard similar rumours re. a club or some sort of organisation too.
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    John and I are hoping to ride saturday 9.30.
    Weather is meant to be ok .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    John and I are hoping to ride saturday 9.30.
    Weather is meant to be ok .

    G'day

    I'd be keen to do a few hours with you guys

    0413 000 441

    9.30 departure?

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    Things are quiet around here at the moment!
    Just thought I'd give an update for those interested:
    Errol has finished his loop, he says the total distance of his loop plus the dam link track, then the track down to Buttermans is 9km. That is great. 9km in that little area alone.
    Cheers to all involved in the hard work.
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    Hello

    Hud, are you riding this weekend?

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    Yeah, was just logging on to advertise that I was doing a yarra ridge loop ride - the tuff one on saturday.
    Keen to check out Errols completed loop.

    30C = 3L of water...
    9.00am at the shop? Best to start a little earlier if it's going to be hot.
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    If any other slower riders end up going I might tag along

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    Nuke, I'll be going tomorrow so I could keep you company. Heard about your bad back though, or was that just an excuse?

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    Sorry Hud, I have to go into the city tomorrow, pity was looking forward to it

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    I think I'm in, just a wee bit apprehensive. I might end up as one of those mythical "slower riders" tomorrow.

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    I'd like to see that!

    Where have you been, cowpat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    I think I'm in, just a wee bit apprehensive. I might end up as one of those mythical "slower riders" tomorrow.
    I'd like to see that!!! ^^^^

    Would love to join in the fun and test out my new XT wheels and tubeless setup, but study must prevail on this occasion.

    It's been toooooooo long since i've been to St. A's.

    Enjoy people

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    Yeah, I'm out unfortunately. My "Brett vs Lightpole" accident a few weeks ago has had my shoulder and back getting slowly worse and I went and got it checked out this arvo and have been told to take it easy for 24 hrs. Went and saw an Osteo that I hadn't seen in 10 years - he was finding sore spots I didn't know were there and which all pointed to a bit more damage than I thought I'd done in the first place when I came off. My back is now a mixture of red, purple and normal skin colours.

    Thanks for offering to keep my company though HB, very nice of you. I promise one day I'll get my unfit arse back to semi fit and make it to the top of St A climbs without needing a 1 hour rest....

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    Top ride at St A today. Four of us did the Yarra Ridge ride: Hud, Cowpat, Stuart and myself. Is Stuart an mtbr member? Not sure.

    Highlight was the Skyline Road singletrack. Some new tracks from Errol the Master Trail Builder, as well as some other recently built trails that I haven't ridden before. One of the new sections goes down a gully, swooping from one side to the other. Great fun.

    Cowpat was indeed a bit out of shape! He hasn't been on the bike for a while and it shows. On the other hand I've been doing quite a bit of riding lately and felt much better for it. Makes for a much more enjoyable ride at St A.

    It's just getting better and better out there. If you haven't been for a while, come back for another look.

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    Any one intersted in a ride on melbourne cup day? I haven't been to st andrews before and i'm keen to hook up with someone who knows the area for a decent ride of 50km or more.
    I'm getting really sick of the you yangs, i must have riden it 50 times or more. I might check out the yarra trails on sunday afternoon and try and find the pink ribbon loop. And then try st andrews on tuesday.

    Anyone (everyone) else get mountain biking flashing through their head as the first thing they think after hearing the words 'public holiday'?

    I'd be up for an early start tuesday if anyone is interested, the earlier the better.

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    hehe, was just talking to my brother about a big ride on cup day, as the last ride before the Gravity 12hr. Was thinking about the You Yangs or Wombat, but if the rain forcast for Sunday is substantial then it will be St Andrews.
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    Hey Hud, I'd be keen to tag along if you do go to St A's on tuesday, i'd probably bring my brother along as well.

    Otherwise i'd appreciate any maps or directions anyone could give me or point me in the direction of to find some single track out there. I'm not familiar with the area.

    Thanks, Paul

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    Looks like there is a ride happening Cup Day. 9:30 at the store...
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    Anyone up for a ride out here sat? Havn't been there for a month! It's meant to be a sunny day, after the rain it'll be prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Anyone up for a ride out here sat? Havn't been there for a month! It's meant to be a sunny day, after the rain it'll be prime.
    Stop organising rides for when i can't make it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog
    Stop organising rides for when i can't make it!!!!

    Sorry mate, but eventually it'll work out. Nuclear_Powered back yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud

    Sorry mate, but eventually it'll work out. Nuclear_Powered back yet?
    Ha ha, very funny..... N_P is back, i spoke to him today. I'm predicting that he'll be keen but the body won't let him play.

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    I'll try Hud. Still gotta get out on the 29er, maybe better to leave that until a ss group ride?

    Got a new 32 talas with the 15mm axle on the Yeti, so keen to give that a flogging....

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    Ok, we'll make it a 'geared-suspended' ride. What loop? 9am start? I'm flexible.
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    I expect I can make it. 9 am or earlier is good for me. If Piker's keen to flog his new Talas then let's do the reverse loop - more nice descents on that one. If we're up to it we can add in Mineshaft Rd or that loop near the antique shop too.

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