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    I'll probably be going out there sometime over the four days, give me a hoy if you go and we can see what works out. J_775 thought it was a great ride ride.

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    St.A's very tidy..

    Thanks Hud for playing ride leader last weekend. Really enjoyable trails, lots of variety and none of that groomed trail Lysterfield stuff, all proper mtb. I was trying to work out all the trails we hit on Google maps but it all kind of gets lost around Clinton's Rd and all the firetrails that aren't shown on the maps. NucPowered, I can higly recommend the riding out there. Really good hitout for fitness as well, but I'd want to do it with a group that know where they're going, otherwise you'd spend a lot of time just riding dirt roads. Hud and his mates have it all dialled and have a sweet 40+km loop that we did most of. I was going to explore around Blue Lake this weekend, but if you guys are keen to hit up St.Andrews again, I'd be up for that depending on your timing. Also NP if you don't have a car I did the train from Heidelberg to Hursty then about an 8k road ride to the store at Smith's Gully. Nice warm up to get the legs ready for some hills.

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    I'm planning on heading out on tuesday, the weather is meant to be better by then. Company would be good as my regular mates are not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    I'm planning on heading out on tuesday, the weather is meant to be better by then. Company would be good as my regular mates are not available.
    I could definitely be in for that - just looked at BoM site and thought the same thing about the weather. I'll PM on Monday if that's the case. 40km loop takes how long you reckon? few hours?

    As it stands I'm heading to You Yangs with my mates tomorrow. Probably the worst day to do it in terms of weather, but I haven't had a mudder for a while now so I figure why not. Plus the trails are really well built out there so they can stand being ridden on wet. Might try and look for the new bit of trail they were working on last weekend - supposed to be linking Western Plantation with Stockyards. I'm assuming it will start near/on the top of the ridge the DH tracks all start from.

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    Huge rain in Geelong and district at the moment according to the BOM radar. From what I've heard the Youies are pretty good in the wet, but this is serious looking rain.
    ST A is pretty good after rain but not during, as the tracks channel water
    The loop can be done in 2.5 - 3 hours, depending on how intense you want to be.
    I'll confirm monday too.
    Others welcome!

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    No St.A for me..

    I'm unfortunately out for Tues due to other commitments. Have a safe one.

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    Hope to head out Sat. AM, weather and conditions should be perfect. I'll be trialling the alternative to the One Tree Hill climb.
    Nuke_P or J_775?

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    Potentially. I'll PM you by 4pm today. Does this alternative to One Tree Hill add much in the way of time?

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    Huzzah.. I have an approved leave pass for tomorrow morning. What time are you setting off?? Still starting at Smith's Gully??

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    Good ride again.. More new trails to add to the loop out there. Hud, did you guys see the big buck just after we parted ways?? Spinning my way up the road and this huge buck with a full set of antlers runs out about 10m in front of me, kind of freezes, snorts, then charges off the side of the road down towards the creek where you guys were headed.. All happened pretty quick. Think I'd rather meet Yarra trails snakes that that again.

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    Thats incredible! We didn't hear or see anything. It also makes our echidna sightings pretty insignificant.
    Actually we have had deer in our vegie patch and we don't even live in the bush. The other side of the road from us is 1/4 acre house blocks and our side is 2 acre blocks with a tiny bit of bush behind us, yet we've seen deer jumping our metre high fence. It would seem they get around like foxes.
    I really liked the new stuff even though part of it was a stickfest. The rocky downhill was not as steep as the One Tree hillI descent, much more enjoyable IMO. Also I have a plan to avoid the last boring gravel downhill (before we made the wrong turn to the right) which hopefully will involve a bit more singletrack. We found a track while you were repairing Johns puncture.
    Also the stuff along Salters Rush road should be fun with a bit of work.
    On Sunday we went out for a bushwalk and general poke around the Steeles Ck area (Directly north of Yarra Glen.) We found that the Old Kinglake rd is now gated off and is a nice gradual middle ring climb on clay/gravel up to Mt Beggary then almost all the way to Kinglake. We intend riding up here next sat. almost to Kinglake then returning along Mt Jerusalem track which comes back down to the same area. It should be great.
    This area is also acessible from the north end of Rifle Range Reserve (near the cut down pine tree) There is a track going down behind this tree to Buttermans track which you cross and head up Marshalls road To Mt Everard track. The start of Marshalls road is just visible on the Melways page of the area if you are interested in looking. My new topo map has been getting a workout today.

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    Anyone know where I can get a trail map (showing single trails) for the St Andrews / Kinglake area?
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    I've got a topographical map of the area but it doesn't have any singletracks on it.
    Orca edition 1 has a ride 'smiths' gully saunter' but the ride is pretty hopeless IMO. It will give you a bit of an idea of the area though.

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    oh deer

    Anyone ever been 'honked' by a deer? A pleasant experience that all should try and combine with a ride at least once!

    They remain still (the you can't see me theory) until you get too close, then they blast out a honk (meant to induce a WTF response from tigers etc...in their native habitat) and then they POQ.

    One of the loudest sounds i've heard. Like an air horn next to your ear. The deafness lasts for days!

    Anyway, i digress. Anyone riding St. Andrews over the xmas/new year period?

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    If anyone wants to hook up for a ride, I'm pretty keen to head out there Sat am, and at least once more over the break. Probably just train it to Hurstbridge again.

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    I'd be keen to head out friday or saturday.

    Edit: Saturday is now out, but friday is very likely. Early will be the go as it'll be warmish.
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    I havn't got anyone to ride with yet, anyone keen? It's not much fun on your own.

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    Hi Hud, Unfortuneately I can only do Satdee due to work commitments. Going to be a hot day, but I need to HTFU, so a hot ride it will have to be. Have a safe one if you go Friday.

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    Never mind, I'll just take the camera as company. I hafta work Satdee.
    If you do it on sat. check out Flat Rock Rd. It finishes in Hurstbridge. Apparently there is a ST along the whole length (swaps side to side - Ridge Road-esque?)which may be worth incorporating. Hursty is the low point.

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    Good job! But wait there's more..

    Thanks for the info, will see if it can be found on the way back to Hursty.. Hope you survived your solo mission in the heat.. Get some shots of that tasty fun meadow section??

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    Not sure what you mean about the meadow section?? Didn't take the camera anyway.Piker was a last minute inclusion, it's not great to ride some of those remote sections by oneself.
    Yeah it was pretty hot out there, cool breeze on the ridges and the shop verandah though.

    A couple of things:
    We rode the new track off the edge of Salters Rush road. Go around the gate in front of the old curved roof shed and follow your nose. Good fun.

    Towards the bottom of Ridge road descent there is some coils of rusty wire half on the track. I shouldve moved it. Throw it out of the way when you go down, it was near where the dead kangaroo was.

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    any of you regular riders feel like putting together a trail map for us :-)
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by pagey
    any of you regular riders feel like putting together a trail map for us :-)
    Hmm..thats a bit above my ability- getting it done on computer anyway.
    Best bet is to come on one of Huds Rides or go with J_775 or Nukepowered, they know the area pretty well now.
    We won't be too hard on ya.

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    Different ride out there in the heat, really good workout though. Bit sketchy with lots of marbles after the rain. Knee and wrist got all intimate with the dirt at the bottom of Ridge rd too. First proper off on the new bike and got out lucky with only a scuffed quick release, so all good. The meadow section I was referring to is that nice ST section after climbing up Broadacres Rd.

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    Thanks for showing me around out there Hud, was a hot ride out there. I'm looking forward to getting out there on a lighter rig, single speed perhaps!

    I did my best to shift that fence wire on the move, guess i wasn't sideways enough....

    Will be back for sure. Night riding would be killer on some of those trails![/LIST]

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    I wanna check this place out......

    Howdy people, i'm keen as mustard to check out the much talked about trails at St. Andrews. I have no problem getting to the general store, but where to from there?

    Looking to head out there Tuesday with another riding buddy of mine.

    Help me please.

    Cheers, Grant.
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    pm sent..

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    Looks like good weather this weekend (read: not stinking f'ing hot). I'd be up for a 9am General Store start - earlier if need be (edit: Talking Saturday here). However, it's been a while since Hud first showed me round, and I get the impression some new lines/tracks have been found yeah?

    Also, having just spent the weekend on some of the better DH tracks I've ever ridden (Buller), I see huge potential for the One Tree Hill descent. I'm hopeless at organising things, but I was toying with the idea of doing some trackwork - you know, put something back into the sport I take so much from. The only catch is that I know nothing about building trails. But I'd follow directions if they were given and I can swing a mean shovel/axe. Hud - you said you've built a few trails in the past yeah? Whaddya reckon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    Looks like good weather this weekend (read: not stinking f'ing hot). I'd be up for a 9am General Store start - earlier if need be (edit: Talking Saturday here). However, it's been a while since Hud first showed me round, and I get the impression some new lines/tracks have been found yeah?

    Also, having just spent the weekend on some of the better DH tracks I've ever ridden (Buller), I see huge potential for the One Tree Hill descent. I'm hopeless at organising things, but I was toying with the idea of doing some trackwork - you know, put something back into the sport I take so much from. The only catch is that I know nothing about building trails. But I'd follow directions if they were given and I can swing a mean shovel/axe. Hud - you said you've built a few trails in the past yeah? Whaddya reckon?

    The thing is, if you look in a more current melways it says 'No bikes' in One Tree Hill reserve. So It's probably not a good idea to wade in with shovels and axes. I'm not opposed to the work that has bypassed the steep eroded section in the gully and I can't see the Rangers being too critical either. I'd be happy to (and have done in the area) go in with a rake and scratch away the twigs/leaves to make a singletrack in a remote area. But maybe I'ts not a good idea to talk about it on a public forum.
    Edit: I like your enthusiasm though, and a hand building tracks would be great as it can get a bit depressing on your own.
    Ross at the shop is thinking about a petition to put to the council, they know he's a rider and there is a bit of friction at the moment.
    I have a few ideas for singletracks in non-sensitive areas to replace some road sections. I'll point them out next time.
    Yeah we've found a few more tracks, theres a lot of good stuff you havn't seen yet. Last sat. we did the ST behind the shop over to Boomers in reverse, it was a hoot as you can probably imagine.
    This saturday will be perfect at 25 degrees, I'll bear it in mind.
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    The urge to ride is building again, who's up for it this saturday??

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    In negotiations...

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    With the great forecast, I am there. Hanging for a ride out there below 30 degrees. Prob keen for an ealy one. Will confirm later in the week.

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    Maybe I'll come again if I can get the bike dusted off in time. And fix the flat tyre...

    John
    (basking in Hud's reflected glory).

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    If memory serves me correctly, aren't you the older sibling? In which case, Hud's username should be John's brother...

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    Brett, is it? G'day.

    Yes, I'm the older brother, but as far as bikes and forums go Hud is more experienced and mature than me

    Calling myself Hud's brother sort of gives me some instant credibility on the forum. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud's brother
    Calling myself Hud's brother sort of gives me some instant credibility on the forum. Maybe.
    I get what you mean .... kinda like buying an iPod to get instant street-cred as opposed to some other (more useful) player.

    So what time are we thinking for the morning? I can do anytime, but I have 2 mates interested in coming along who aren't morning people, so they may be more likely to embrace a 9am start. But if the consensus is for earlier, that doesn't bother me.

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    Earlier is better, j_775 do you you have a time you have to be back by? I'd prefer closer to 8 but 9 would be okay.

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    C'mon all you other lurkers, let's make it a big MTBR ride, Woody, Pagey,Waldog, Sicwombat make an effort! We'll show those Taswegians how do do an MTBR gathering!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    C'mon all you other lurkers, let's make it a big MTBR ride, Woody, Pagey,Waldog, Sicwombat make an effort! We'll show those Taswegians how do do an MTBR gathering!!

    Sheesh... soon you mainlanders will be handing out mtbr stickers too

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Sheesh... soon you mainlanders will be handing out mtbr stickers too
    Freaky coincidence ... some o' them stickers just landed on my desk in an envelope a few minutes ago. I have a vague memory of asking someone for them about 6 - 8 months ago but I can't remember who.

    Hud I can do 8am start, but I'll be pushing it to convince the crew for that start time. I'll PM or SMS you later in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    C'mon all you other lurkers, let's make it a big MTBR ride, Woody, Pagey,Waldog, Sicwombat make an effort! We'll show those Taswegians how do do an MTBR gathering!!
    Righto, count me in. I fear that my level of fitness will be shot to pieces, but i'll give it a good bash. Where are we meeting, and what time?

    Wal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    Freaky coincidence ... some o' them stickers just landed on my desk in an envelope a few minutes ago. I have a vague memory of asking someone for them about 6 - 8 months ago but I can't remember who.

    .

    .... sounds like Low_Rider.

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    Perfect weather is forcast, we can take it cruisiley out of consideration of the lame and unfit - if no-one has time constraints.
    How about we aim to be kitted up and ready to roll by 9am, if Nukes sleepy mates are a bit late it won't matter.
    Meet at the Smiths Gully store at melways 263e3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Perfect weather is forcast, we can take it cruisiley out of consideration of the lame and unfit - if no-one has time constraints.
    How about we aim to be kitted up and ready to roll by 9am, if Nukes sleepy mates are a bit late it won't matter.
    Meet at the Smiths Gully store at melways 263e3.
    Sounds like a winner too me. Now, don't get me wrong i'm not hideously unfit, i just doubt that i'm in the same calibre of yourself and others, but i will give it a good crack no doubt about that!!

    Will be sweet, can't wait!!

    Wal.

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    Bugger, I'm gonna have to catch you fellas another Saturday.. Diary suddenly has an entry I can't change.. Will be out there Sunday morning though, so can pick up any bits/riders you lose along the way.. Have a safe one.

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    Dame - I'd love to come but I'm in Wagga for the weekend. I'm going to check out some trails while I'm there.

    I'm up for the next trip - keep me updated
    cheers
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    St andrews it is.

    Hey hud, Im there. Looking forward to it.

    Cheers.

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    Cool, it seems there is going to be quite a crowd if sicwombat is coming too. My mobile is 0427100469 if you need it.

    Hayden

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    I'm pumped!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Perfect weather is forcast, we can take it cruisiley out of consideration of the lame and unfit - if no-one has time constraints.
    How about we aim to be kitted up and ready to roll by 9am, if Nukes sleepy mates are a bit late it won't matter.
    Meet at the Smiths Gully store at melways 263e3.
    Hey Hud, isn't 264 e3?

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