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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    It's a 2001 model, I've gone all retro, and I reckon the logical progression from 3x9 to 1x9 to ??? is SS...
    Ahhh...that's better...another one falls prey

    Maybe a Niner carbon fork as well? Tensioning the chain? Options are EBB for a standard shell (there's two on the market) or a White Industries Eric Eccentric Eno rear hub with matching Eno freewheel. Stay away from derailleur mounted tensioners if possible. What brakes will you use?
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob
    Ahhh...that's better...another one falls prey

    Maybe a Niner carbon fork as well? Tensioning the chain? Options are EBB for a standard shell (there's two on the market) or a White Industries Eric Eccentric Eno rear hub with matching Eno freewheel. Stay away from derailleur mounted tensioners if possible. What brakes will you use?
    Using a Der mounted tensioner to start with (known as "what's in the shed already"), some Fox forks (ditto) and Elixir CR mags (rotorburn special).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben_M
    Ignitor, best tyre ever!
    Andrew at Wagga cycle centre recommends the Maxxis Rendez on the front. Looks like a nice tyre. What do you think ?

    He says you cant get the UST tubeless version of the Ignitor in Oz. Is that right ?

    Ill be getting a new Trance x2 with normal tubes soon. Wonder if its worth getting an Ignitor or the rendez

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    Quote Originally Posted by mella060
    Andrew at Wagga cycle centre recommends the Maxxis Rendez on the front. Looks like a nice tyre. What do you think ?

    He says you cant get the UST tubeless version of the Ignitor in Oz. Is that right ?

    Ill be getting a new Trance x2 with normal tubes soon. Wonder if its worth getting an Ignitor or the rendez
    Cant comment on the Rendez as I have never used it but plently of people rate it as a good tyre. If Andrew says you can get the Ignitor in UST tubless then id say there is a very good chance that you can get it.

    Which tyre to get? Thats the problem with tyres, too many choices......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    New Hope BB, proudly installed by yours truly. I was hoping (no pun intended) that with my new post-mount forks that I'd also be able to run my other blue Hope rotor, but alas 'twas not to be. There is still rivet rub. Will post a less awkward pic of the SL when I get a chance. It's now around 500g lighter at11.4kg with the swapped bits from the 'Piph, aiming for 10.9kg long term...
    The old superlite. do you still ride it much. What sought of handlebars are those ? Ritchey carbon pro ? They would look nice of my new giant trance...do you recommend carbon bars ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mella060
    ..do you recommend carbon bars ?
    I switched to carbon bars a while ago (Easton Monkeylite XC's) after riding alloy for several years, and have noticed absolutely zero difference whatsoever. They look nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    I switched to carbon bars a while ago (Easton Monkeylite XC's) after riding alloy for several years, and have noticed absolutely zero difference whatsoever. They look nice though.
    Yeh ive seen them on quite a few bikes lately. They look pretty nice. Are they a good bar for general all round trail use ?

    Im getting a new trance x soon and looking at possible upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mella060
    Andrew at Wagga cycle centre recommends the Maxxis Rendez on the front. Looks like a nice tyre. What do you think ?

    He says you cant get the UST tubeless version of the Ignitor in Oz. Is that right ?

    Ill be getting a new Trance x2 with normal tubes soon. Wonder if its worth getting an Ignitor or the rendez
    You can get the UST Ignitor 2.1 in Australia. I have one on the front of my bike and there are two in the shop I work at. I haven't ridden with the Rendez either but i like the Ignitor for the front too, it is narrow for a 2.1 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mella060
    Are they a good bar for general all round trail use ?

    Im getting a new trance x soon and looking at possible upgrades.
    When I turn the bars, the bike goes in the direction I turn. So I guess that makes them a good bar.

    Sorry if that sounds smart-arse-esque, but I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to tell the difference between any make/model/material differences when it comes to bars, stem or seatpost. There might be a difference in stiffness or flex that a computer could notice, but in most cases I doubt a human could with regards to these components.

    The Monkeylites were on sale at Jenson, and they looked nice, and Easton makes strong carbon components. All boxes ticked for me, so that's why I got em.

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    Still ride the SL a bit Dean. Sharing the load over a few other bikes means it falls out of love sometimes.
    As for my take on carbon bars you really need to get the top of the line ones to get any 'carbon' value.
    My bars are Ritchey WCS. They are light and strong and stiff-ish. Cheap carbon bars like the Ritchey Pro are kind of pointless in a practical sense. They look nice but aren't particulary light. They probably have an alloy skeleton like a lot of carbon bars do. That said they are probably still a good bar, but why not go for a wet-look WCS alloy that will be lighter and perhaps close in price?
    On a duallie I like stiff and light bars, no need for 'give' when you have suspension and steering is probably more precise in some cases with stiffer bars.
    If I bought another bar for use on a rigid bike, my priority would be strength and flex, so I'd go for something like the Salsa Pro-moto carbon. I've seen and experienced the carpark bounce test on them and there is noticably more flex than my WCS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mella060
    Andrew at Wagga cycle centre recommends the Maxxis Rendez on the front. Looks like a nice tyre. What do you think ?

    He says you cant get the UST tubeless version of the Ignitor in Oz. Is that right ?

    Ill be getting a new Trance x2 with normal tubes soon. Wonder if its worth getting an Ignitor or the rendez
    The Rendez is a nice front tyre. It grips on the turns much better than i expected with that tread pattern.

    Phantom Cycles has UST Ignitors and has never had any problem getting them tha i can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    If I bought another bar for use on a rigid bike, my priority would be strength and flex, so I'd go for something like the Salsa Pro-moto carbon. I've seen and experienced the carpark bounce test on them and there is noticably more flex than my WCS.
    No complaint with them here. I found a noticeable difference on rocky decents at speed. It cut down the blur you normally experience when running a rigid fork. I'd say that this would be less noticeable on a squishy fork.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    It's finally out there and ridable, just need to shorten the brake lines and lower the fork to 80mm ! Rides superbly...
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    don't know if this counts, but its got me back out on the bike and i'm loving it in a way my yeti arc just didn't do it for me...




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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git
    don't know if this counts, but its got me back out on the bike and i'm loving it in a way my yeti arc just didn't do it for me...
    It's funny how that works, I had a Scott Scale 20 with same geometry as the Yeti, full carbon and all, and it did nothing for me, just felt wrong, whereas I love the ARC ????

    Nice shiny GT there, very retro !

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    My Pivot Firebird. It usually has a DHX Air on it but i'm playing with my CCDB and a new Manitou Evolver ISX-6.






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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    It's funny how that works, I had a Scott Scale 20 with same geometry as the Yeti, full carbon and all, and it did nothing for me, just felt wrong, whereas I love the ARC ????

    Nice shiny GT there, very retro !
    yeah, not sure with my yeti, I have a medium (so 19in) and it was a llittle too big, and the 4in fork didn't help (2003 USA model). it was very slow in the steering, so it was fine climbing and very comfortable (is now my commuter to uni), but anything tight and ti felt like a pig, the GT is the opposite, loves the tight and steep, but its very nervous climbing... actually feels a lot liek my old manitou.

    But I don't think I co9uld complain about an ARC ti... no matter what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    Using a Der mounted tensioner to start with (known as "what's in the shed already"), some Fox forks (ditto) and Elixir CR mags (rotorburn special).

    Those don't look like Fox forks..
    Bike looks very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsH
    Those don't look like Fox forks..
    Bike looks very nice!
    Steerer wasn't long enough...

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    Nice casnell. How much does it weigh?
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Dunno, must weigh it...

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    Casnell: Love your work mate, excellent looking beast. Hope it gives you many great rides!

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    Needle roller bearings for the CCDB on the Firebird...


    And for the RP23 on the Mach 5...

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    [QUOTE=mik_git]don't know if this counts, but its got me back out on the bike and i'm loving it in a way my yeti arc just didn't do it for me.../QUOTE]

    mik_git: That bike is dripping with retro cool... love it!

    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    It's finally out there and ridable, just need to shorten the brake lines and lower the fork to 80mm ! Rides superbly...
    casnell: Not only a beautiful bike but you've managed to make the chain tensioner look good... it fits the colour scheme.

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    Does this count??
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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    Does this count??


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    Anyone ride a Scott Genius 10?

    That is what Russell Crowe rides

    From Twitter "I ride a Scott Genius 10 mountainbike, carbon fibre frame. Easily the best bike I've ever owned."

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    Betcha thats harder to throw at a concierge's head! what a tool! that's it i'm becoming a roadie...nah...too much leg hair.

    brilliant bike tho rusty...props for that but that's it.

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    Not a fan, huh, teamfbr?
    He's an odd one is RC..

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    I turned 29 the other day and I got this to show for it.



    I have always wanted a helmet cam so I am looking forward to testing it out, finger crossed it will be this weekend. I intend on getting a chest mount for it as I think that position works really well. Hopefully this is the end of my low quality videos that make people sick...... HQ fully sick vids from now on!!!!

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    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    That is very cool, I like the "be a hero" part

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    We are staying in Kangaroo Valley this weekend and you should see the driveway to the place we are staying which is up the top of an escarpment. About 2k long and very steep, could be a fun first test run.

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    2 down, 1 up.

    Well, the Epiphany and Ala Carte have both left the building and it was time for a new project.

    Salsa Selma!
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    sexy!

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    1 x 10 Firebird.


    LG1+ guide.


    XT stuff.


    Aluminium rocker link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Well, the Epiphany and Ala Carte have both left the building and it was time for a new project.

    Salsa Selma!
    HOT! Can't wait to see the final result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Well, the Epiphany and Ala Carte have both left the building and it was time for a new project.

    Salsa Selma!
    Awesome. Best colour combo I've seen in ages. Here are some grips for ya:


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    Bit lairy. They do look good, but will probably go for ESI grips.
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    You have no right calling those grips lairy young fella, after seeing those rims of yours.

    When ya gunna finish the Selma?
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Well, waiting for the Niner fork which is unknown, hopefully this month. (Which means my new sig is a bit premature, but was too clever not to put up ) All I need now is a seatpost and cranks as well as the incidentals. Looking at going 15 G cranks. Light, and they have a 30mm spindle,
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    Still reckon those grips will tie the bike together. Better even than The Dude's rug in Big Lebowski tied his room together.

    So ... keeping the SIR as a 1 x 9 hardtail and this will be the new rigid SS huh?

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    Got it in one. Then my life will be complete
    Hope the SL will still get some use...
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    Hey I jsut noticed that Selma has a splittable rear triangle. Gates carbon drive!! Do it!!

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    Well, to be honest, I hadn't thought of that, so thank you! Coincidently, I have been agonising over what crank set to over the last few days, I'll look into it. Though from what I have seen of the few carbon belt drive bikes at the Cog, they seem fragile and don't spin very freely.

    Edit: Just did a search and found...


    "Originally Posted by Salsa Cycles
    We have actually received this question quite frequently since Interbike so I'll jump in and answer this one. The quick and dirty is that no...it won't work. The rear triangle is bolted at the drops before paint/clear coat and then also has a super strong loc-tite on the bolt as well. Even if you could get the bolt out and the two pieces apart without doing serious damage to the frame, it would probably never stay tight again the way it does from the factory. On a side note, from what I understand of the belt drive it wouldn't work with the ENO hub as it requires a cassette style (as opposed to a freewheel) hub to mount up to like the Chris King single for example. The ENO does however work wonderfully with a chain type single speed conversion...I use one myself. That said, how many folks out there would purchase an EBB version of the Mamasita if it were available. Not just those that think it would be cool now but those that would actually throw down the green.

    Bobby
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    Bummer. What an odd thing to do - bolt something together with the intention of never getting it apart. Why not weld/join/whatever they do between Alu & Carbon I wonder? Anyways, I'm sure your bike will still rock even with chain..... and maybe some blue grips

    Interesting question he asks at the end, about making an EBB Mamsita - Other than the EBB, there's less that 1cm of geometry difference at any point between the 2 bikes. Mostly < 5mm actually. I guess the choice of paint colour would be nice - I reckon a combination of Selma's grey with Mamasita's red would look awesome personally.

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    Unfortunately it looks like Salsa is heading away from the scandium/carbon frames. Both the Selma and Mamasita are discontinued.
    Not such a fan of the new graphics philosophy either.
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    First ride yesterday. One word: Awesome

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    Drop seats are amazing eh. I love how much fun it makes the bike!

    Here is my new Porn. A 4 x 4 1987 Toyota Van. A home from home! Let's see how long i get out of it! lol






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    Nice, Nuclear, how about some complete bike pics??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Nice, Nuclear, how about some complete bike pics??
    +1, well that's really +2, because I have requested this directly.

    ILMP, that van is awesome!!! Love it!!

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    So N_P, a bright future of Youies shuttle days, Buller and iRide? Or is it not that kind of bike? Pics will tell...

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    I took it to Blue Lake yesterday (and noticed a certain trail fairy had been busy in that gully at the bottom of the steep descent - nice work), and it is certainly capable of regular XC riding, although a little twitchier than the Genius in the slow stuff. However, it was particularly muddy and slippery out there (to the point that I think it's not good for the trails in most parts, so I will not go out there again till it dries up) which made the techy sections really slow anyway - even the hardtail I was with was struggling. So I'll chalk that deficiency up to conditions for now.

    But ... that last downhill through the rock gardens down to the river - WOW. Straight through everything with practically zero deflection from the front end. Reminded me of the Glorys we hired at Buller. Massive grins after that and the jumps at the beginning.

    So ... yes Cowpat - Buller and Youies (iRide?) but like your 6.6, a bit of everything else too. Genius will be sold soon.

    Pics later on - must head to Bunnings for that other project I'm working on (the one we live in).

    P.S. ILMP - I second that: Nice van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    I took it to Blue Lake yesterday (and noticed a certain trail fairy had been busy in that gully at the bottom of the steep descent - nice work), and it is certainly capable of regular XC riding, although a little twitchier than the Genius in the slow stuff. However, it was particularly muddy and slippery out there (to the point that I think it's not good for the trails in most parts, so I will not go out there again till it dries up) which made the techy sections really slow anyway - even the hardtail I was with was struggling. So I'll chalk that deficiency up to conditions for now.

    But ... that last downhill through the rock gardens down to the river - WOW. Straight through everything with practically zero deflection from the front end. Reminded me of the Glorys we hired at Buller. Massive grins after that and the jumps at the beginning.

    So ... yes Cowpat - Buller and Youies (iRide?) but like your 6.6, a bit of everything else too. Genius will be sold soon.

    Pics later on - must head to Bunnings for that other project I'm working on (the one we live in).

    P.S. ILMP - I second that: Nice van.
    Hold on a minute. You tell us how good it is, and that you're selling the Genius, and then you don't tell us what you'll replace the Genius with and STILL don't give us a pic of the Nomad.

    You're just a bad person..... I would be knocking on your door right now if i wasn't so far away!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    I took it to Blue Lake yesterday (and noticed a certain trail fairy had been busy in that gully at the bottom of the steep descent - nice work)
    Sorry to go OT but...don't look at me on that one...someones been making a shared bike path out of the narrow techy traverse.

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    I demand pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    Sorry to go OT but...don't look at me on that one...someones been making a shared bike path out of the narrow techy traverse.
    See RB?

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    Wheels finally in place, chunky 203mm rotors bolted on, and getting bitten down on by Saint 4-pot calipers:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4871591246/" title="P1020372_fix by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4871591246_f9309db7e0_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="P1020372_fix" /></a>

    Cranks bolted in, extremely cheapo eBay Xpedo pedals are not too bad, but only work well with my white Shimano DH shoes:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4871589308/" title="P1020373 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4871589308_b41338ccac_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="P1020373" /></a>

    My view of the cockpit - lots of red ano:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4871583518/" title="P1020368 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4871583518_e0cd093ccd_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="P1020368" /></a>

    Oury lock-ons, with one inside clamp replaced with seatpost remote:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4870976227/" title="P1020369 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4870976227_a98ce613dc_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="P1020369" /></a>

    Rear brakes - also 203mm rotors. Some say overkill, but I'm the one lookin' at the scales:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4870971911/" title="P1020367 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4870971911_4ba85823d2_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="P1020367" /></a>

    Curvy top tube - one of the first things that drew me to this bike aesthetically:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4870980877/" title="P1020374_fix by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4870980877_2100d8e374_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="P1020374_fix" /></a>

    One from the right:
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    And one more from the left-rear:
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    Wow.
    That looks fantastic!

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    That looks amazing!! Absolutely amazing!!

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    Fantastic! Even matches the house! You should have painted the window sills red.
    You've done a great job with the build, very balanced looking!
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    Very nice everyone, I looked at 10 pages and your bikes sweet

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    Thanks guys - and MrsH. I'm extremely happy with it - both looks and performance-wise. Should've taken a lot less time than it did, but that white thing the bike is leaning against takes up more time than I care to mention. Speaking of which I'll have to update the "Why didn't we ride on the weekend" thread - got about a dozen weekend's worth of pics to post there.

    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    Sorry to go OT but...don't look at me on that one...someones been making a shared bike path out of the narrow techy traverse
    Really? Thought we were the only ones who knew about that part. Will talk to you about it offline soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    See RB?
    If you're talking about the post in the General MTB Discussion section, that was us they saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4871579318/" title="P1020364 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4871579318_b5f776af47_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="P1020364" /></a>

    Very nice bike, well done. Now we need pics of it in action!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretts_shed/4870978097/" title="P1020370 by bretts_shed, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4870978097_472c031992_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="P1020370" /></a>
    Nice weatherboards... I mean deck... I mean bike. 4 pot brakes, love it!

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    Nice one!

    Those pedals are interesting.

    How's it pedal in granny? Bob? Keen for a ride...

    (That's your cross-country wheelset, right?)

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    Very nice !

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    now that's a trail bike!

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    That's a bike that makes you yell "weeeeeeeeeeeeeee" all the way down
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Very Nice NP

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    Nice one!

    Those pedals are interesting.

    How's it pedal in granny? Bob? Keen for a ride...

    (That's your cross-country wheelset, right?)
    Happy for you to take it for a spin next time we're out together and you have the Intense, cos I'd feel bad if your Anthem buckled under my weight

    For all those steep pinch climbs out at Blue Lake I climbed either in 1-1 or 2-1, with 1 in the rear being 34T. I found it surprisingly bob-free in both open & medium floodgate modes of the shock. I didn't get much out of saddle climbing happening because it was too slipperly and I'd break traction. But to be honest I didn't feel the need much.

    Suspension-wise, at slow speed, the thing I noticed most was clearing logs uphill - the rear wheel moving backwards and upwards felt odd at first, but actually better than the Genius because it happened slower/smoother and didn't feel like it wanted to boost me.

    As for yelling weeeeee on the way down Steve - well, if I wasn't doing it verbally I was sure as s**t doing it inside my head. Couldn't wipe the grin off for a good 15mins. I couldn't really say what felt different other than rigidity & plushness, and even then not sure what was contributing to what. Needless to say, 160mm of travel + 20mm through axle + 35mm stanchions + 1.5in headtube & steerer + 740mm wide bars + 2.4 tyres = awesomeness when going through rockgardens downhill at high speed. Happy pills on 2 wheels I tell ya.

    N.B. cowpat: XC wheelset? - nice. About as XC as your wheelset with Minions on the Intense! As much as I don't like the term - that is my 'All Mountain' wheelset - i.e. the only wheelset the bike will have, and the only tyres it will have, from chairlifting the Alps all the way down to the Yarra trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat

    (That's your cross-country wheelset, right?)
    I use that same wheelset as my cross country wheelset, what are you trying to say?

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    speaking of trail bikes, managed to cast my eyes upon the latest trek fuel x bikes, and all i can say is "wow"...ok im off to buy a lottery ticket !!

    http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...l_ex/fuelex99/

    Think i prefer the blue colour of the 9.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly
    I use that same wheelset as my cross country wheelset, what are you trying to say?
    Errk - no offense intended. I just expected N_P would run tyres with deeper tread blocks and a stronger carcass on DH tracks to avoid cutting them up when the rear wheel skids over rocks. I figured N_P had a second wheelset or pair of tyres in the shed. OTOH I haven't seen those tyres before - they're probably a lot beefier than they look in the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    Errk - no offense intended. I just expected N_P would run tyres with deeper tread blocks and a stronger carcass on DH tracks to avoid cutting them up when the rear wheel skids over rocks. I figured N_P had a second wheelset or pair of tyres in the shed. OTOH I haven't seen those tyres before - they're probably a lot beefier than they look in the pics.
    No worries. I wish I could run an ultralight set of cross country hoops, but considering I cracked my trailfox frame in less than 2K kms just from hard riding, I'm glad I never have.

    NP you should look into the bolt-on axle conversion for the havoc rear and get rid of that wimpy quick release. I've got one on my new trailfox and it seems rock solid. It's a bit pricey, but it comes with a new axle, bolts, replacement bearings and bearing drifts. I just reused my old bearings since they were still good, so I've got a spare set for when they go bad. If you want to save the coin just get the axle and bolts, reuse your bearings and I'll lend you my bearing drift set.

    BTW nice bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly
    NP you should look into the bolt-on axle conversion for the havoc rear and get rid of that wimpy quick release.
    Cool - so you got one for your Havocs? Sounds interesting. But i'll be honest though - I do wonder if I'd even notice the difference. Maybe some can, but I don't think I could.

    Plus I've seen Santa Cruz vids of their riders (Weir, Vories, Gracia) doing things on Nomads I'm never likely to be able to replicate or have the courage to try - BIG big jumps and hits - all with pretty stock Nomads running QR's. Combine that with the following release from Santa Cruz:
    Why doesn't the Nomad have a through-axle rear end?

    Basically, it doesn't need it. Our VPP bikes are renowned for their stiffness- ask anyone who's ridden one. This is partially due to our design priorities, and also due to the natural stiffness of the rigid triangular swingarms. When starting with such a stiff structure, adding a through-axle really doesn't gain much. But it gets a bit heavier- and cuts down quite a bit on hub/wheel options.

    Certainly some other bikes (with pivots near the dropout) may benefit quite a bit from a rear through-axle, but for us it needlessly adds compatibility complications and weight.
    .... I guess if the bike's designers think it's fine with QR, then I should just go with that. But the part of me that want's to endlessly tinker with things is interested in it anyway. At the very least I want to try replacing bearings in things with mdern ceramic stuff. Not for weight, performance, lognevity (all boxes that ceramic bearings tick), but just because it'd be an interesting thing to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly
    BTW nice bike!
    Thanks I sense a Youies trip in the near future - you will be there on your BMC I'm sure.

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    I has Fox forks



    It has lots of adjustable bits! 08 RLCs



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    And here is the complete bike.. looks much nicer with white forks! And OMG so light to steer!


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    Good stuff Mrs H

    Orange o-ring is a bit blingy
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly

    NP you should look into the bolt-on axle conversion for the havoc rear and get rid of that wimpy quick release.

    BTW nice bike!
    I'm with you N_P on this, if it came all setup with bolt through rear then sure but Nomad's hold up fine with a QR! My Nomad did 60+ days at Whistler and not once did I have an issue with the QR.
    Love the build there, very similar concept to mine (big brakes/burly fork) except way more bling! I'd be interested to hear about how the chain feedback in the granny ring has been handled in VPP2? I'm considering going back to single ring because the granny peformance of my '07 is so bad!

    Anyway here is mine for comparison - looks good from afar, but far from good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    Sounds interesting. But i'll be honest though - I do wonder if I'd even notice the difference. Maybe some can, but I don't think I could.

    Thanks I sense a Youies trip in the near future - you will be there on your BMC I'm sure.
    Yeah, fair enough, and the bolts are more of a pain in the arse to undo than a quick release. I personally can't stand quick releases, I've gotten rid of them on all my bikes. Once I tried a 20mm thru axle I couldn't go back. I've replaced ordinary quick releases on my road bike with DT Swiss RWS skewers and I've gone bolt-on for the rear of the trailfox.

    The bolts are probably not a great inprovement for VPP suspension bikes like ours. But I started getting alot of slop from the rear of my trailfox. So I changed the frame bearings and bought the bolt-on conversion, and then it turned out the frame was cracked. So I got a new frame under warranty and at least I know the bike is as stiff as it can be. Plus, like you, I just like tinkering with bikes.

    Count me in for a You Yangs ride, where else around melbourne could you ride a rig like yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beardi
    Anyway here is mine for comparison - looks good from afar, but far from good!
    I like - very tough. Nomads look so awesome with a coil stashed in there. I was thinking of getting a Vivid Coil for chairlift days but will see how the Monarch fares for now. Plus I think PUSH are offering a Monarch service soon. Otherwise the Vivid Air is an option.

    What dual-ring guide is that you're running - a Stinger? Does it matter how many teeth one has on the bigger ring when running a Stinger? It's something I was going to look into if I have any retention issues. SC recommend MRP LRP, but want to get feedback.

    Will def. post feedback about VPP2 granny-bob issues if I find them. Opinions seem mixed in the SC forum. So far no problems, but need more km's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly
    I've replaced ordinary quick releases on my road bike with DT Swiss RWS skewers
    My first thought when you mentioned the thru-axle conversion was to run the 'thru-bolt' version of the DT Swiss RWS. So if the Havoc conversion effectively gives you room for a 10mm bolt to slide through, then perhaps one of these would do the trick. 10mm diameter? Check. Quick relelase? Check. Tinkering fun? Check.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Pauly
    Count me in for a You Yangs ride, where else around melbourne could you ride a rig like yours?
    If that's a serious question, then the answer is: everywhere - as in 'everywhere' is where I intend to ride it. If it's a rhetorical question, then yes - this bike is really going to be at home in the Youies at Stockyards. Either way - heading OS in 2 weeks for 2 weeks, so prob won't be till after then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beardi
    I'd be interested to hear about how the chain feedback in the granny ring has been handled in VPP2?
    Yup N_P, that is one reason why I'd like to have a ride on your new aluminium horse. The 22 on the Intense 6.6 never pedalled too well. Not a problem of bob but pedal feedback over bumps. I went to a single 34 but my dud knee gave me trouble so I'm on a 28 tooth Widgit right now. The knee's happy with it and there's no noticeable pedal feedback or bob.

    I've a through axle on the rear but that's mainly to run a Saint axle-mounted derailler - which has held up really well what with all the rocks, branches and bits of fencing wire it's collected over the years. Plus the rear triangle on the 6.6 is flexy and the through axle does seem to help a little, though that could be psychological.

    PS: I'm OS for a couple of weeks soon too - sounds like we'll be up for Youies session when you're back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat
    PS: I'm OS for a couple of weeks soon too - sounds like we'll be up for Youies session when you're back!
    Deal. And since it's climbing ability you want to test, you can ride the Nomad up the hills and I'll bomb it back down

    [ Inner-voice: how do I get back up the hills? Clearly didn't think that through properly. Time for caffiene ]

    Have fun on your holiday.

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    Yes that is a stinger and I'm a believer. I did have the nomad setup with a single ring and an e-13. I never dropped chains but the drag was pretty noticable.
    The stinger is so simple, light and very, very effective AND CHEAP! It's a huge weight saving over more complicated designs. I've never dropped a chain nor have I damaged the stinger itself. A big hit might bend it but nothing a vice can't fix! On a DH bike no, but for everything else two thumbs up!
    I was going to mention earlier N_P that I think a stinger would complete the package there. It's a whole lot of chain hanging out there in the breeze on a bike that is ready for burly trails.
    I'm not aware of any restrictions regarding ring size. With a BB mount there is lots of leeway. They are a little fiddly to setup but once you get the sweetspot it's smooth sailing. The rotating wheel can seize up once or twice a year but nothing a clean and a spot of grease won't fix.

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    Beardman,

    I'd been meaning to tell you to check out this thread, and to post your steed up.

    You two Nomad riders do actually know each other, you met in Canberra a couple of years ago.

    Beardy, I'm gonna have to borrow the Nomad when I'm back for a quick visit in November.

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    Ah ha I see! The only problem with Canberra world cup is that I was blind drunk most of the weekend and can't really remember any of it......except you not getting let into the pub!
    Back on track....yep it's all yours, it's just waiting on maxxis to make a tubeless ardent and needs its 28th DU bushing! November ey.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by beardi
    I'd be interested to hear about how the chain feedback in the granny ring has been handled in VPP2? I'm considering going back to single ring because the granny peformance of my '07 is so bad!

    Anyway here is mine for comparison - looks good from afar, but far from good!
    I never thought the Nomad was too bad in the granny ring, but there were definitely gears I could feel some chain pull. Here is my old one.



    The CCDB was easily the best shock for it too. I definitely preferred the feel of the old Nomad to the poor small bump sensitivity of the new Nomad. That's why I went for the Firebird instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    Orange o-ring is a bit blingy

    Ahahah..I think the flash accentuated it a little..

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    Salsa El Mariachi

    Raining and 9 Deg in Melbourne, its a beautiful day
    ........................'cause this just arrived!!

    Show us your bike porn-16082010174.jpg

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    Please excuse the messy kitchen!

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    Nice!!!

    It must have been frame delivery day in Melbourne today

    Post up some pics later

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    Dang John, that is beautiful. Love the swinging dropouts.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Yowee!! That is ho-at! Very very nice!
    Don't scratch it that's all
    BTW your fridge looks like ours...
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    Very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hud
    BTW your fridge looks like ours...
    Isn't that how all fridges are meant to look??

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    It must be wet out.....

    So we are all porning up


    These might baffle some...
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    Those won't but these might

    I'm not very good with images
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne's World
    And now it's time for .... EXTREME CLOSE UP!!!!!!!
    ...

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