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    Bike Buller - who'll be there and what rubbers do you prefer?

    Hi Guys!!

    Just wondering if there's anybody out there who'll be at Bike Buller in March? I'll be heading over from Perth and in my preparation it has occurred to me that I've never ridden over there and thus have no clue about tire selection and such. Even if you're not doing the weekend but have ridden/are familiar with the trails around there I'd greatly appreciate knowing what rubbers (intentional sexual innuendo) I should be using.

    I guess this would also be a reasonable place to discuss anything else people might want to know about getting ready/excited for the weekend...

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    I'll be there with a mate doing 50km XC race. I'll be running Maxxis Ignitors as that is what is on my bike and I have a bit of ride 'em till they break and run what you brung policy.

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    How eloquently put. I am in the fortunate position having ridden what I got to exhaustion and being in the market for something new. I also figure I've gone to the effort of organising to travel to another state for a race, I may as well do it right...

    Chumbox, are you not tempted to enter the 25km XC and the brake burner? I'll do both XC races but am tossing up whether to do the 4hr disc destroyer... Have you been to one before? are you able to comment on how aggressive the descent is? On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being an infant could do it and 10 being only for the manliest of men...

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    The XC tracks at Buller are not technically difficult. The surface is generally loam/dirt - no sharp rocks, pea gravel or loose shale - so you'll be fine with standard XC tyres. Ignitors or similar would be a good choice and would give a good margin for error, especially if you're not confident on downhills. Racing Ralphs, Crossmarks or even Race Kings would probably be faster overall but will need a little more rider input.

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    I'm in for the full serve
    I did the lot last year too and there is one word that comes to mind
    TUBELESS

    I have never seen so many people with flats
    Last year I used racing Ralphs
    I'll either use them again or race kings on the 29er

    Last year the BB did not run due to lift issues and they ran stage 2B(super D) instead
    What a cracker of a race it was.
    18Km from almost the summit to the pay station at the bottom 1100m loss 14 rivercrossings in the last 3km there was still alittle climbing too - the guys on the DH rigs had their work cut out for them.
    It has been included this year because of the great response to the super D last year.
    I think the Brake burner will be a tough race as it too is not totally down and includes a bit of climbing each lap not technically difficult though
    I was talking to a guy who had ridden the new Sterling tracks and recons they are fantastic too so looking forward to that.
    Last year I found the 25k to be the most difficult of the 3 stages

    Chumbox you need to do a Saturday event either the BB or the Super D

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    Anyone know the SuperD route to Mirimbah that the BikeBuller site mentions? Does it go down Klingsporn? It says suitable for XC bike, which Klingsporn is, but I wouldn't want to attempt many passes down there - a fall to the right could in some cases be disastrous.

    EDIT: ILD seems to have answered before me. Must go down the Stirling run given the mention of river crossings.

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    Thanks all for the nudge to do other races but not only can I not get there on the Saturday but my goal for the year is a 50km (Buller) and a 100km (Dirtworks 100 VIC), so that's me sorted... and I'll do the 80km Melb gravel grind in Feb for good measure.

    Maybe next year... the other races all look awesome at Buller.

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    Super D ended up on the delatite river road
    started at the summit of Baldy down the rad off around the back of the village through gangs gangs down past sewerage plant then onto the 4wd tracks to the bottom
    Fun easy on a 4"XC
    Chumbox
    Last year I was worried about the 50 having not done one before and backing up after Saturdays rides But it was really enjoyable we did have perfect conditions though
    The views from the top of Sterling were sensational and the fireroads down to telephone box junction were sensational. The route this year is somewhat different with the new singletrack on Sterling I think you'll be happy with the choice
    The only problem with the whole weekend was the ride up the asphalt from box corner not good to finish a MTB race on the blacktop

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    Tubeless

    Yep Tubeless unless you want to get really good at changing flats, I can now change a flat in under 2 mins. I had flats 4 in 3 races...

    So this year I am back with a nice set of tubeless wheels, and will probably run Racing Ralphs. I ran mountain kings last year with out any problems, most of the terrain is pretty loamy as suggested already, so grip isnt too bad. But the huge rocks on the descents are what cause the flats, when you are descending at 45kph and you get to a field of the largest boulders you have ever seen, you can only hope to steer through safely with TUBES

    The chairlift is fixed from reports I have heard, that means no road climb after the 50k this year. And River Spur was badly damaged in the big rains recently so a new track has been opened, not sure if River Spur will be fixed by then. But either way there is a way down the mountain

    Should be another good one this year

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    Well i rode there for the first time this week and yeh, definitely bring your tubeless tyres. Very rocky on the singletrack anyway. A lot of sharp rocks.

    I also did the Delatite river trail which is more loamy fire-trail. What an epic ride with all the river crossings but a lot fun. Guess that is the route for the super D course. 9km descent. I started from the village, riding down gangs gangs, then down the box corner trail and on to the delatite trail.

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    I Mr Carver & son on the entry list

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    Whose rubber held up?
    I think tube sales soared over the weekend
    I know John had a miserable time with flats yesterday
    Got to say though is Stone Fly Descent the best ST in Aus?

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    50km was a tough ride but was a great day all up. No problems with rubber which was great news, bike ran like a dream. So many tubes being changed from what I could see. Yes Stone Fly is an amazing trail.

    Here is the only pic I have looking back at Buller Village from the side of Sterling from what I can work out:
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    What a fantastic weekend! Weather was perfect, tracks are sweet as, and a great atmosphere everywhere. I'll be pulling out all stops to make it happen again next year!!
    I took the 96er with the rear only being tubeless. Had a 2.4 RR on the front which soaked up everything beautifully. The rear was going great until about a quarter of the way down the Super D when air started escaping thru' the tread. Stopped 3 times on the decent to air-up, and with some cautious riding, made it to the end. What a blast!!
    Sunday morning I woke to find the rear still holding good - lazy/silly move! 1km into the 50km event the rear was down to the rim, F#@&*. A combination of being in racing mode and shear stupidity saw me attempting to air up a couple of more times before conceding defeat and shoving a tube in, only to pinch-flat about mid way thru the event. No air left in canisters and a dodgey manual pump saw this 'fix' blow out to approx. 30min . By this stage I had been up and down the field a few times, so a lot of faces were becoming farmiliar . Finished the race with a slow leak in the rear - surprise, surprise!!
    Leason learnt. Don't just bring a patch kit and tubes, bring a spare tyre/s.
    My son had a nasty mishap/OTB after getting off the chairlift for his first full run down 'Brake-Burner'. He came out of it shaken but OK, but the front wheel looks like this:-

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    Bike Buller - who'll be there and what rubbers do you prefer?-08032011346.jpg

    One of the guys in our lodge had a spare front wheel he lent to Shaun, so he got out and rode Stonefly and was muchly inpressed, as was the rest of us.
    Great to see so many farmiliar faces out and about at Buller. Hope you all had a great event.

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    I would have been one of the fellas you saw supporting the rubber tube industry on Saturday. On the rocky decent about 9km in to the 25km I managed to get off the line and hit a rock bigger than my head before using the left hand side of my body as a friction brake against the rocks. I brushed myself off and rode about 5m before realizing my front tyre was floppy. After that it was smooth but difficult sailing for me.

    Man, you guys have an incredible trail system out there. Some of the sweetest riding I've done in awhile. The high country is amazing too. Im spending the rest of the week in Melbourne and hopping to ride on Saturday with a mate who recently came over from NZ. he usually rides the you yangs but they're closed. Any suggestions of good cc trails near the city?

    Cheers for the tyre suggestions too, I think I may have had a less than satisfying experience if I hadn't thrown some tubless tyres on my ride.

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    The shiny new i9 wheel trying to do a taco impersonation!!! Oh the tragedy!

    Quote Originally Posted by ilovecharlie
    Any suggestions of good cc trails near the city?
    Prob Smiths Gully/St Andrews or My Evelyn & surrounds is your best bet - these seem to be the only decent trails that hold up to rain around Melbourne. If you can make it to the Smiths Gully General Store you should be able to get some basic instructions, or post in the St Andrews thread here that you're heading out and you might get some guides.

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    Too bad about that wheel shaun
    What is that fork?

    John and I headed up to Buller on Friday and did a loop out to Stonefly and back. We started on Gang Gang's and did all the trails out and back except for Misty Twist.
    Amazing trails! I got plenty of pics which I'll post in the WDWAROTW thread soon.
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    Yeah I was wondering about the fork? Looking at it upside down, it has the lowers of a SID, but I didn't think they were available in 29"?

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    Good old Rebas

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    The I9's are reportedly very stiff. That must have been some whack Shaun gave it. Glad he's OK.

    I was considering trying to get up there for a social ride before the end of March. Don't know if it will happen just yet.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Worth the trip mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob
    The I9's are reportedly very stiff. That must have been some whack Shaun gave it. Glad he's OK..
    Yes, it was 'some-whack'. About 10 metres in front of me. I was concentrating of the track, but looked up to see Shaun flying thru' the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob
    I was considering trying to get up there for a social ride before the end of March. Don't know if it will happen just yet.
    If you make it up on a day when the weather is fine, you will not be disappointed. Simply awesome stuff (although the chairlift took some of the pain out of it ) !!

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    I have a spare front wheel Shaun can use indefinitely until his gets fixed, if he needs it.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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