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    Anyone up for riding out at Plenty Gorge?

    Anyone up for riding at Plenty Gorge during the week as a mostly regular sort of thing?

    All this wet weather and chill and I need to harden up a little, haven't been riding nearly enough.

    Probably the easyish southside loop only as the river's likely to stay too high to cross over winter.

    I'd join in all the fun and merriment at the Cog every week but it's a big trip in busy traffic to get out there and back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    All this wet weather and chill and I need to harden up a little, haven't been riding nearly enough.
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    Yeah I need to harden up as well. By south do you mean starting at Kariboo? Haven't ridden that side in ages. Wish we could plant some decent massive concrete stepping stones for the crossings.

    I'm keen to make it a regular thing.

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    Yes starting from Kariboo.

    That side doesn't have as many scratchy bushes intruding onto the track either...

    I might head out there on Thursday this week.

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    Rode there this morning. Usually can't during the week in the shorter daylight hours months but I'll let you know if I get a chance. Only five minutes from home.

    Would be good if there was a more permanent crossing of the river. It was going strong this morning after yesterdays rain.

    Trails getting slimy though. Went down a couple of times. New Nevengal tyres not very confidence inspiring and really clogged up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Rode there this morning. Usually can't during the week in the shorter daylight hours months but I'll let you know if I get a chance. Only five minutes from home.
    Let me know, I'll join you if I can. Might have to bring out the lights again.

    I have no idea on how to cross the river other than use the road - unless you've got a few tonnes of concrete blocks lying around looking for a good home. BTW any idea what they're doing at the old pipe bridge?

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    where abouts is this trail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyranT View Post
    where abouts is this trail?
    More like a network of trails that we string together into a loop (or figure 8 actually, if the river is crossable). No definitive, easy to follow line as such. Pretty hard to explain - best just to try and meet one of us out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered View Post
    No definitive, easy to follow line as such.
    And deliberately vague at intersections to keep the motos at bay.

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    Random pic from yesterday - detour around the collapsed drainage gully near Janefield.
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    The forecast looks nice so am heading out there tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday) if anyone is interested.

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    Hey cowpat, what's the condition of the trails at the moment? That pic make it look pretty wet.

    I rode Smiths Gully with Hud today and it was the greasiest I've ever seen it there.

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    Trails on the south side of the river are in good shape - just wish there were more.

    The singletrack is pretty much unaffected - some wet spots on the trail heading in from Kariboo and a bit damp in two other spots - one of them being where that pic was taken.

    The main 4wd track heading through is a bit slimy with green algae - but there's really no reason to be riding it.

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    Some pics from the south of the river. I don't know how long the loop is - pretty short maybe 6 km or a little more - but ok for a local ride.

    Entry from Kariboo:



    Over the other side of the pipeline easement:



    Young 'uns have built little rollover jumps:



    Heading west:



    Nice trail:





    Fun techy trail:



    A little rocky in spots:



    Tricky right turn around the tree and then down:



    Getting a bit overgrown:



    Heading west towards Janefield:





    Heading back:





    Dodgy rivulet crossing, but it's still holding out:





    More little jumps on the return journey:



    Young 'uns have built a little trail with some nice whoops:



    Last straight run on the way back before the pipeline easement:


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    Looks good! You'll have to take mearound there sometime Casper.
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    Anytime I'm free, if you're doing your last delivery around this way one day you can bring your bike on the truck?

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    Hey Casper are you up for a ride out there on Saturday? That is if the weather holds...

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    I would be but won't be around until late arvo tomorrow - 4 or 4:30 or so - or even later. Just a thought - do you think Freida would be up to it by now?

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    I haven't been riding with Frida yet, been really busy unfortunately. I might try her Saturday Morning.

    I'd be up for later on Saturday, I guess we'll need our lights.

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    Cool - I'll text you when I know when I'll be home. It's a short ride but better take lights just in case.

    Took the gps last time. Southside loop is only 5 km, plus 2 km each way from Kariboo to get to it. Have to look harder for a way to cross the river. There used to be 6 crossing points - have to check them all out one day. I do have an idea - but it's a bit out there.

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    Hello!

    My name is Emerson and I live in Plenty River Drive, Greensborough. I love to ride the longer, more obscure trails in the Gorge, starting from Kariboo Grove just across the river from home.
    I am usually there most weekends, and hopefully I will be able to get there tomorrow, most likely about midday, if not a bit after.
    I don't know the trails on the north side very well, but I am keen to learn more. I reckon I've got a pretty good handle on the southern side though, and I am happy to ride with anyone else who wants to go for a spin in the area, or to work with anyone who wants to help maintain or improve the trails (discreetly, of course!).
    Cheers - see you out there!

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    I'll show you the trails on the north side one day. They're a bit longer and a little steeper on that side. I tend to be busy on the weekends is the only thing, but if I'm free on an arvo one weekend I'll let you know.

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    Didn't get out at all yesterday, so extra keen for today. Will be heading out about 11 or 11.30, starting from Kariboo.

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    Could anyone help me out and draw a rough line maybe a screen shot from google earth of which trails + direction you take entering from Kariboo? Thanks guys

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    Plenty Gorge

    Hi there,

    My name's Emerson - and I've pretty much had enough of trying to get mtbr to load....

    I am happy to show you the trails in person, but I can't manage to make this site work adequately to upload any maps or pics.

    Email me directly at:
    emerthis at gmail.com

    Also, cowpat is the main man as trail-guide - it's his turf, as far as I'm concerned - but provided that we respect the bush and stay on the trails, I think we should do OK.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4drake9 View Post
    Could anyone help me out and draw a rough line maybe a screen shot from google earth of which trails + direction you take entering from Kariboo? Thanks guys
    Hi mate,

    With the amount of trails that cross each other and many that are difficult to find it may be easier hooking up with someone than trying to follow a map!!

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    Southside in the Gorge

    I get out there most weekends, and now the days are getting longer, after work occasionally too.

    Text me to arrange a guided ride.

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    Likewise - feel free to PM me if you're up for a ride in the arvo some day - I'm not usually free on the weekends that's all.

    I'm looking forward to daylight savings...and maybe the river will drop just a couple more inches...

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    Daylight

    Yep. Seriously looking forward to later sunsets. Already been home early enough twice to get out for quick blasts over the past two weeks, and the weather just keeps getting warmer. Now, to sort out some lights...

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    Plenty Gorge trail conditions

    Hi Guys,

    Good to see a thread on Plenty Gorge.

    Used to ride my old Giant carbon hardtail there in the early to mid 90's. (It's been a while...)

    I was thinking of getting back there to ride some of the old tracks and was wondering what the trails are like now? There used to be lots of great fast flowing single track - North of Plenty river.

    What's the best way to cross the river nowdays to get from the South to the North side? We used to rock hop at a narrow/shallower section and try to stay out of the drink - (didn't always work out that way).

    Hoping some of you regular local riders could give me an update on the old stomping ground.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnAnySunday View Post
    I was thinking of getting back there to ride some of the old tracks and was wondering what the trails are like now? There used to be lots of great fast flowing single track - North of Plenty river.

    What's the best way to cross the river nowdays to get from the South to the North side? We used to rock hop at a narrow/shallower section and try to stay out of the drink - (didn't always work out that way).
    There's a 5 km loop you won't have seen on the south side.

    Stuff on the north side now makes a big loop, though in recent months the more technical parts of it have been shortcut and thus overgrown as people only seem to like riding easy stuff.

    The young 'uns keep making, abandoning and then remaking little jumps, huts and other structures here and there, especially near Kariboo.

    All crossings are flooded this year. The standard one is the shallowest.

    You're best to hook up with someone if you want to find everything quickly. Most tracks are marked only minimally and all flagging tape anyone leaves on track entrances is removed. Motos are always a problem but most tracks are these days unaffected.

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    Thanks for the update Cowpat.

    For a decent ride, would you suggest North or South of the river now?

    And with the river levels up, how are you doing the cross over? Are you heading out to Plenty Road and cutting back in, or is there a better/quicker way.

    Wouldn't mind heading out that way again some time in the next month or so.

    Thanks again.

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    North side has steeper terrain and more track, plus you can loop out to Blue Lake if you want to add a few km.

    South side is more accessible for most and as a result the track is more established.

    I'm accepting my lack of fitness and not crossing, doing two loops southside instead if it's not too cold. The bridge at Booyan then the bike path/short cut/road to the Mackelroy entrance avoids getting your feet wet. I don't know how far it is but there's not much more than a km of bitumen involved.

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    Ahh... Blue Lake. That brings back some memories. Last I heard, the land around Blue Lake was fenced off - restricted access.

    Re: crossing the river - It would be great if Parks Victoria or whoever is responsible for the land had put in a cross over bridge, somewhere along there. Thought that may have been done by now.

    Anyway, thanks again for the info.

    Appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnAnySunday View Post
    Re: crossing the river - It would be great if Parks Victoria or whoever is responsible for the land had put in a cross over bridge, somewhere along there. Thought that may have been done by now.
    That'll never happen. These days to limit risk it'd have to be a single span bridge and would cost a fortune, and hardly anyone uses the area.

    There was a grand plan ten years ago to make a pedestrian bridge out of the pipe bridge and establish visitor facilities and walking/bike paths too but that that doesn't seem to have amounted to anything other than money for the consultants involved in drawing up this plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    That'll never happen. hardly anyone uses the area.

    There was a grand plan ten years ago to make a pedestrian bridge out of the pipe bridge and establish visitor facilities and walking/bike paths too but that that doesn't seem to have amounted to anything other than money for the consultants involved in drawing up this plan.
    Great bushland to enjoy and hardly anyone uses the area. Funny about that.

    It's interesting that 15 - 20 years ago it was a bit of a hidden treasure and still seems to be the same way today.

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    Vandals on the North Side

    There's been some trailbuilding activity the last few months on the north side (not me).

    The existing loop is slowly being turned into a mesh with useless little tracks added to shortcut sections and large sections bypassed or ignored - generally anything technically interesting, imho - like the narrow traverse and the big dipper. Or maybe it's just that whoever is building trails there hasn't taken the trouble to locate the existing ones; they could do with a bit of raking after all the recent growth. All the same I don't like to see the once-vague tracks lined with logs etc. clear as day for all to see, including the motos.

    Accepting that change is inevitable I've let it be, but it's getting to be too much.

    Here are some examples of the work of these vandals - note the live trees cut at thigh height to mark the tracks and the gratuitous overuse of weedkiller:







    I guess "Josh" is responsible, perhaps he is of the opinion that he has created these tracks that have been in use for some years now:



    And this is just straight-out vandalism. Cutting the middle post at the entrance so you can ride your bike through easier?



    The rangers can hardly not have noticed now that it has got to that:





    Just my little rant - I'm frikken angry at these morons but they're probably some underage kids who have no idea about anything.

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    Just got back from a couple of laps of the south side.

    Actually thought about riding the north but with the river obviously un-crossable after last night's storms and not really feeling like riding right around, I stayed south. Shared the trail with only a few kangeroos and a very friendly and brave echidna! Unfortunately, I don't think this sort of thing will last much longer with an increasing level of disregard for the area - trail damage, motos, rubbish being brought in and left, blatant vandalism, damage/killing of live trees (?!?!) etc.

    There are parts of the south side of the park that I dislike due to the damage/rubbish, which is why I enjoy the north side a lot more. It now looks as though it might be heading down the same path.

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    Sad to see it's come to this. I haven't been over there at all since I fell off and chopped up my leg coming down one of the steep moto ruts - which I think was further out than all this 'new' stuff anyway. It's not the sort of attention we want as mountain bikers. Probably couldn't hurt to start actively promoting responsible trail manners at our local bike shops, rotorburn, etc.
    I have heard from other locals that the trails are named for the kids whose Dad is doing most of the building for them - but I don't know how true this might be - I haven't met the builder/s myself. Hopefully the Ranger will sort them out before they ruin it for all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    There are parts of the south side of the park that I dislike due to the damage/rubbish, which is why I enjoy the north side a lot more. It now looks as though it might be heading down the same path.
    No damage or rubbish on the south loop I hope, except for the dumped car parts?

    Fingers crossed this "dad" doesn't venture down south. If I find him there he'll get a lecture on ethics and trail relations he won't forget in a hurry (if he's even capable of understanding simple concepts that is).

    Take care Emerson, will be in touch.

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    No significant rubbish on southside other than the car parts. Couple of plastic cups and such like, which I suspect have blown over from the newest house constructions, and which I should collect in a bag soon.
    The little gully crossing with our pile of rocks needs some attention, but other than that it all seems to be holding up well. I haven't been over there much of late, but did a quick southern loop last weekend. Will give you a buzz next time!

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    That's a sorry state of affairs. So much potential out at the gorge. One too many arse-hats to ruin it.

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    I've never ridden there, but even so this situation really annoys me.
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    That's a real shame. I guess some people have no idea.

    What's really crap is that all the years you've been in there building tracks (and some great tracks too, with some good technical challenges) and never doing anything that would annoy the rangers but now the whole area is probably going to be under close scrutiny.

    Do you ever see many other people riding out there? I know there must be some kids that ride there as they make all those dirt jumps and 'sick' dh tracks. I wonder if you or anyone has seen these people out there before.

    Maybe try posting this in rotorburn, seems like more young punks hang out there but then it may only just attract more people to the place.

    Anyway hope your well mate. Let's catch up for a ride sometime it's been ages.

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    Actually I was chatting to Ross and said the same thing was happening at Smiths Gully.

    People were just cutting new tracks through private land, putting in wood work.

    Apparently with the delicate situation with the council these new rouge track builders were really setting things back.

    I'm sure these is an existing etiquette about this sort of thing I know in climbing once someone has established a route you can't go and modify the route (even if it's putting in bolts for more protection). I guess things are a bit more vague in mtb and there isn't guide books showing who created the track.

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    Yep some "bolts" might get "chopped" out at the gorge.

    Sounds like trouble brewin' at the Yarra Trails too : Yarra Trails regulars - Page 118

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    Given Victoria's love of cycling (well, compared to everywhere in Australia except Canberra), I am astonished - even dismayed - that there is no apparent organisation looking after these issues on behalf of MTB users. I agree that it's a very vague area, and I am sorely tempted to get off my political behind and get something started, or reinvigorated, or coordinated - or whatever it might take to get a remotely coherent voice and action plan into place.

    I come from a history of riding my bike on trails that have, traditionally, been predominantly not for bikes - singletrack is the best, and very few areas have bespoke trails for the purpose - but as I grow older I realise why it's so important to abide by 'the rules'. You Yangs is a great example of how it can work, done properly - but perhaps its remoteness is a big part of what keeps it manageable. We have to start facing these challenges, rather than continually putting them off or ignoring them outright.

    Look at what's happening with the Menai area in Sydney's south right now:
    OK, I can't post links yet - apparently I haven't posted enough in this forum yet. Go to facebook and look up Menai-MTB-Park-proposal. In any case, it's the same old story.

    I am going to start by trying to get all the disparate groups I associate with to start talking to each other - even competing bike shops have this interest in common!

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    Doing a couple of loops of the south Saturday morning before the rain. If river is crossable may head across to the north.

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    Was on the south side this afternoon. The tracks are looking good.

    Here are a few vids of the terrain. The first was in September and the second was only last week.

    I ride a bit of everything, from straight up trail riding to small jumps and DH. The Gorge offers some good variety.

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3t9mNTKnu-s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    That's some very nice footage there! I was over there yesterday morning, doing the long XC loop with a couple of others. The trails are in good nick on the south side - just a shame about the rubbish blowing in from the new housing developments, and someone's dumped a trailer-full of crap as well.

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    Spent a couple of hours riding this evening. Quick loop of the south side before going right around to the north (river not crossable yet)

    Someone has been busy with a spray can marking a trail on the north side.
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    Arrrrrrrr..... The old North side. Haven't seen that side in ages. I think I better head there after work in the next few days. :P

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    Subtle...

    Is that the trail that heads along the cliff top up to the Blue Lake carpark? That is, the oldest singletrack I have found there which is still heavily used and requires no marking whatsoever?

    I went for a group ride at Westerfolds yesterday after work - the fit buggers nearly killed me, after my two weeks of excess and no riding. I will have to get out over here soon, to see what's been happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Someone has been busy with a spray can marking a trail on the north side.
    And painting arrows on the south side too, but someone seems to have come along and rubbed them off.

    Two of the three little crossings on the southside loop that were washed away are rideable again, btw.

    It's amazing how much erosion a few hours of hail and rain brought about, and just what has been washed down what are again tiny little streams:
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    Gees, that one isn't going to last much longer is it? Theer are some nice slabs of concrete there we could use for the smaller crossings though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    Subtle...

    Is that the trail that heads along the cliff top up to the Blue Lake carpark? That is, the oldest singletrack I have found there which is still heavily used and requires no marking whatsoever.
    Yes and these are not all the markings. Plenty more I didn't take photos of.

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    I like it

    Hi,

    I havent ridden there for over 5 years and really enjoyed it. I rode on Saturday from 4.30 to 7pm and saw one other cyclist. I rode just on the south side as I didnt want my shoes wet.
    Rode all the usual downhills (trails with jumps that come from the very top. Found a big arsed jumps track with built up doubles (too big for me). I also found the very tight single track that runs along the edge of the gourge and then figure 8s it and returns. Great trail and technical enough to keep me on my toes. Had one over the bars as there are so many rocks hidden in the grass - no damage done. I tried to cross at the old stop (bottom of the rutted out fireroad) but the exit looked really step and over grown. Can you cross over at the stop at the end of the single track where there is the washout road? Photo in the previous posts. Keen to head over to the Northern side to try the old jumps into the small quarry / pit above Blue Lake.
    Well done to the trail crew for maintaning the trails and grooming new ones. The big jumps dont interest me as much as the XC loops and I enjoyed them. Nice to have a close option other than Hanns Loop.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnd663 View Post
    Hi,

    I havent ridden there for over 5 years and really enjoyed it. I rode on Saturday from 4.30 to 7pm and saw one other cyclist. I rode just on the south side as I didnt want my shoes wet.
    Rode all the usual downhills (trails with jumps that come from the very top. Found a big arsed jumps track with built up doubles (too big for me). I also found the very tight single track that runs along the edge of the gourge and then figure 8s it and returns. Great trail and technical enough to keep me on my toes. Had one over the bars as there are so many rocks hidden in the grass - no damage done. I tried to cross at the old stop (bottom of the rutted out fireroad) but the exit looked really step and over grown. Can you cross over at the stop at the end of the single track where there is the washout road? Photo in the previous posts. Keen to head over to the Northern side to try the old jumps into the small quarry / pit above Blue Lake.
    Well done to the trail crew for maintaning the trails and grooming new ones. The big jumps dont interest me as much as the XC loops and I enjoyed them. Nice to have a close option other than Hanns Loop.
    Cheers
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    Hi JD,

    If you ride a Ventana it was me you bumped into. Sorry about the vague directions, I would have loved to show you around but, as you saw, I had the kids with me!

    Yell out next time you're around and I'll be happy to meet up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Hi JD,

    If you ride a Ventana it was me you bumped into. Sorry about the vague directions, I would have loved to show you around but, as you saw, I had the kids with me!

    Yell out next time you're around and I'll be happy to meet up.
    Yeap that was me, you directions were fine Jossa - I found heaps.

    Many thanks
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    A few shots from Plenty Gorge.

    Beautiful evening for a ride. I love March and April in Melbourne. Nice clear days and still cool evenings. Can ride until nearly 8 without lights also during March. (Footy starts too)
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    ^^Pretty cool^^

    Looks like an interesting place to ride.

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    Glad to see some new work since I went overseas on honeymoon. Looking forward to being able to link north & south together without waiting for the river to drop to drought levels. Sorry I haven't been around to help out - been busy with the whole getting married caper. Should have more time to help with trail work on weekends now though.
    Kudos to cowpat, I think...

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    Rode both sides yesterday. Had forgotten just how much singletrack there is on the other side - although some of it is barely visible, and I had to backtrack a couple of times to make sure I was heading in the right direction.
    I really think it's the sort of area that would make a brilliant MTB park - but I know cowpat has been down that road in the past.
    Great riding, had a lovely couple of hours on the bike.

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    Never new about this little gem, may have to make my way over there and give it a ride some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    Rode both sides yesterday. Had forgotten just how much singletrack there is on the other side - although some of it is barely visible, and I had to backtrack a couple of times to make sure I was heading in the right direction.
    I really think it's the sort of area that would make a brilliant MTB park - but I know cowpat has been down that road in the past.
    Great riding, had a lovely couple of hours on the bike.
    Is there a decent place to cross the river anymore? I don't know how many times I've tried to rebuild the crossing near the steep gully bank, only for it piss with rain and dissapear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yippee_Ki_YayMF View Post
    Is there a decent place to cross the river anymore? I don't know how many times I've tried to rebuild the crossing near the steep gully bank, only for it piss with rain and dissapear.
    Maaaybeee.... It's a bloody steep climb up out of the river, but there is another way. Cowpat?

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    Cowpat?

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    Yup. Cowpat.

    It will either make sense in the next few days, or it'll be a month or so after that.

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    There's a crossing just off the south loop (or figure eight). It's passable when the river height at Greensborough is less than 0.5 m: River Height data for Plenty R at Greensborough

    If you ride the south loop (or figure eight) clockwise then there's a little Y junction near the easternmost end which leads to it. Just before you head uphill to a difficult sharp right turn between some trees and rocks which starts to head back west there is a Y junction. You head right to go uphill. Try going left...

    After the crossing there's a small gully and then it's a steep climb up the spurline to join the north loop. The north loop will take you to cliff track etc. and is currently rideable but you really have to know where it is to follow it...only about half of it sees regular use.

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    Might head out there on Sunday at this stage .. see if I can find this mystical bridge

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    The bridge is easy enough to find - but as it's not my baby I thought I'd best leave it to cowpat to tell all about it. The trail isn't easy to find unless you know where to look - I may well head over for a spin today, as it's been a few weeks since I rode it, and with all the rain, the bush will be reclaiming some of the less-used trails again.
    I've been trying to put together a loop which includes most of the north side, but my knowledge of those trails isn't yet quite up to scratch - so I'll keep riding there once every coupe of weeks until I get it figured out.
    Tomorrow there will be a group ride (of mixed abilities) at Smiths Gully, meeting at the shop about 10am - and as I am guiding on that one, I won't be doing the Gorge tomorrow. If you'd like to join me on either ride, call or text me on 0412 715 053.
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    Rode the Gorge yesterday. The bridge is getting a bit of use already. I ran into two young guys exploring the north side - they said they had no idea all those trails were there. Then there were some walkers just near the bridge as I was coming back down the spur. They watched in amazement as I rode right to the edge of the ravine, and they had a friendly chat with me, asking about what trails were around that might be good for walking.
    I only just found the link trail between the top of the spur to the new switchbacks, on my way back home - well done, that man!
    It was a great day for riding yesterday. Hopefully today will be similar for the group at Smiths Gully!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    I only just found the link trail between the top of the spur to the new switchbacks, on my way back home - well done, that man!
    Heading out there this arv. Will see if I can find this.


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    So, didn't find the new switchbacks, but did find the new river crossing.

    Really, really love the south loop out there. Just a whole lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    So, didn't find the new switchbacks, but did find the new river crossing.

    Really, really love the south loop out there. Just a whole lot of fun.


    The switchbacks have been there a while now, but I've nothing to do with them. There's some other stuff out there too. Some is good, and some needs a bit of rerouting and rationalisation.

    So, the spurline track, was it too steep to actually be considered "fun"? I consider it a middle ring challenge but it's one tough pitch...

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    The spur is good fun on the way down, and I have almost ridden the whole way up it as well. Thanks to some of the bigger obstacles having been removed, it's quite doable - challenging, yes. Fun? Well... The biggest issue I see is the ravine at the bottom of it. I reckon the sides of that will get chopped up pretty quickly, and we should look for an angle to switch-back it. It serves its purpose very well though: a quick route to the east/north loops. Coming straight down the ridgeline probably isn't the best long-term solution, for erosion and degradation, but in the absence of any other workers taking it on I can only congratulate you on the job well done, Cowpat!

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    I agree with Emerson, the spur is much more fun on the way down, but I will admit that we didn't even attempt the climb today. Will next time though.

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    Oh, and as always, top work cowpat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    So, the spurline track, was it too steep to actually be considered "fun"? I consider it a middle ring challenge but it's one tough pitch...
    As we pushed our bikes up the conversation went like this:
    B: "Casper probably rides up this."
    G: "In the big ring"
    B: "Nah on his singlespeed"
    G: "With brake rub"

    It should come as no surprise that I vote for an easier climb option, but leave the spur track for the trip back.

    Otherwise its so awesome and fun out there now. Can't wait to do a north south loop. It'll getchya fit in no time doing that regularly.

    We also wondered about another bridge, like the first, to cross that creek wash before the climb? Happy to help carry and construct if the source of the first plank can provide another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered View Post
    ...a north south loop. It'll getchya fit in no time doing that regularly.
    With the original north loop plus a selection of new segments unknowingly "donated" by others...yes it'll be a killer on the legs...that's always been the plan...

    Thanks for the feedback, I do agree.

    See you all in a month or so.

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    Hi guys,

    Wow, am I glad I found this forum! I always thought this site was just for the Yankees!

    I live in Eltham, and went for my first proper mountain bike ride from Kariboo nearly 10 years ago, so I have very fond memories of the path to Blue Lake!

    Have only been in there once or twice in the last year, but reading about these paths I will definitley have to step things up! I usually ride the same route as I have been on a time budget - from Kariboo in virtually a straight line through the paddock past the little ruin and then down the techy decent to the river, get my feet wet cause there is no bridge and I walk through, up the ravine, attempt to ride up the spur, then on to the goat track and to Blue lake, then I usually just turn around and do it in reverse!

    Last time I went there I rode along the Diamond Creek trail to the Main Yarra Trail, then along the MYT to Plenty River Trail, then followed that to Kariboo, went to Blue lake then home along the roads.

    Have seen faint signs of other tracks but not had time to explore them, I'd love to come for a ride with Emerson or Cowpat and be shown what the place really has to offer! Not the fittest bloke, but keen to get the fitness back up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfullarton View Post
    Hi guys,

    Wow, am I glad I found this forum! I always thought this site was just for the Yankees!

    I live in Eltham, and went for my first proper mountain bike ride from Kariboo nearly 10 years ago, so I have very fond memories of the path to Blue Lake!

    Have only been in there once or twice in the last year, but reading about these paths I will definitley have to step things up! I usually ride the same route as I have been on a time budget - from Kariboo in virtually a straight line through the paddock past the little ruin and then down the techy decent to the river, get my feet wet cause there is no bridge and I walk through, up the ravine, attempt to ride up the spur, then on to the goat track and to Blue lake, then I usually just turn around and do it in reverse!

    Last time I went there I rode along the Diamond Creek trail to the Main Yarra Trail, then along the MYT to Plenty River Trail, then followed that to Kariboo, went to Blue lake then home along the roads.

    Have seen faint signs of other tracks but not had time to explore them, I'd love to come for a ride with Emerson or Cowpat and be shown what the place really has to offer! Not the fittest bloke, but keen to get the fitness back up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfullarton View Post
    Hi guys,

    Wow, am I glad I found this forum! I always thought this site was just for the Yankees!

    I live in Eltham, and went for my first proper mountain bike ride from Kariboo nearly 10 years ago, so I have very fond memories of the path to Blue Lake!

    (snipped)

    Last time I went there I rode along the Diamond Creek trail to the Main Yarra Trail, then along the MYT to Plenty River Trail, then followed that to Kariboo, went to Blue lake then home along the roads.

    Have seen faint signs of other tracks but not had time to explore them, I'd love to come for a ride with Emerson or Cowpat and be shown what the place really has to offer! Not the fittest bloke, but keen to get the fitness back up!

    Pete
    Mate, that sure is the long way to get here! Sometimes I do a similar loop to go and ride the trails along the Yarra, but from Eltham to Greensy I almost always end up coming back along Sherbourne, Karingal & St Helena Roads, rejoining the Plenty trail under the bridge at Main St, for a nice flat cruise home.

    There are some trails in the Gorge, and of course I would love to show you around. I often ride there, but since the end of daylight savings, it's restricted to weekends.

    Sounds to me like your fitness is fine - for me, anyway! Let me know when you're keen.

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    Had a blast over there this morning with Simon & Pete. It was a bit muddy, and a bit slippery, and it took me a whole hour to get my eye in (by which time Pete had left).
    Figured out a decent loop for next weekend's group ride - just hope the trails dry out a bit before then!

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    After watching this thread from a distance for a while now, snuck out there this arvo. What a cool little jewel you guys have out there! Only spent an hour rolling around in circles, but good fun tight single track, looks to hold up well with the rock substrate.

    The best part its only 25mins drive from home..

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiggs1974 View Post
    After watching this thread from a distance for a while now, snuck out there this arvo. What a cool little jewel you guys have out there! Only spent an hour rolling around in circles, but good fun tight single track, looks to hold up well with the rock substrate.

    The best part its only 25mins drive from home..

    quiggs
    No, the best part is it's only 3 minutes ride from home.

    But it is pretty great =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    No, the best part is it's only 3 minutes ride from home.

    But it is pretty great =)
    At my back door

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    Rode both South and North a couple of times this week; once on Tuesday but was too wet on some sections, and once again today and the conditions were fantastic. Traction is awesome and the vague sections are starting to bed in.

    Bit of a group ride starting to form for this Saturday (Emerson) if anyone is keen. Weather looks ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Rode both South and North a couple of times this week; once on Tuesday but was too wet on some sections, and once again today and the conditions were fantastic. Traction is awesome and the vague sections are starting to bed in.

    Bit of a group ride starting to form for this Saturday (Emerson) if anyone is keen. Weather looks ok.
    I'm still in, on the condition that I can shake the "Black Lung" that has been troubling me this week.

    Keen as mustard though, even if i'll be coughing up the plague for the whole ride.

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    I might make an appearance and tag along at the back of the mob! What time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfullarton View Post
    I might make an appearance and tag along at the back of the mob! What time?
    10:30 @ Kariboo

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    I'm still in, on the condition that I can shake the "Black Lung" that has been troubling me this week.

    Keen as mustard though, even if i'll be coughing up the plague for the whole ride.
    Best way of getting rid of it is a ride on the bike, I say!*


    * I'm not a doctor.

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    Thanks Jossa, won't know for certain until tomorrow, if I'm not there don't wait for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Best way of getting rid of it is a ride on the bike, I say!*


    * I'm not a doctor.
    I am a medical professional, and I believe your treatment plan is sound.

    See you tomorrow.

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    Hud, are you there?

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    Weather looks shite but I will be out there if anyone's still coming. Brrr!!!

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    I'm still coming.

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