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    I'm not sure if there is any gorge left, as I just emptied a trucked load of it out of my drivetrain.

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    I wanted to find it this afternoon since I had been at the inlaws all weekend on this side of town, but I couldn't find it. I had forgotten the name of the street where the track started! And I was looking around the wrong PG park (was looking around the Mernda one... not much there except housing estates! erk). Bitterly disapointed I've come home to the west, re-read this thread and with the help of google earth found where it all starts... Next time for sure now. Looks like a really good bunch of traks out there, so very gutted I didn't get to ride them.

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    More photos from the north. Bit drier today! Spur track. New rollover, watch out for it!
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    That looks fresh!

    I was only over there last night (Wednesday) with a couple of lads. It's good fun in the dark, but finding the new bits up to the water tank in the dark didn't go so well - we got there in the end though =)

    It was decidedly slippery, but we had a great ride. Over an hour and a half, and I think we covered nearly 14 km. Impressive speed, huh?

    I took a few out tonight on the south side as well. That'll teach 'em for riding hardtails and rigids! Seriously, though, I often forget just how technical some of those trails are, and merrily lead riders through there in pitch darkness. No harm done, fortunately.

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    Trail fairies out again?

    Quick run on both sides this afternoon, and I spy the makings of a gully crossing...
    You're mad, Cowpat - mad, but brilliant!

    Hoping to ride over there again tomorrow morning with another local, who hasn't been on his bike much lately. Not decided on time yet.

    Cheers,
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    Gully crossing ey? Tell me more..... No really, please tell me more, as I'm on call for the WHOLE weekend, therefore can't join you tomorrow.

    Stupid job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Gully crossing ey? Tell me more..... No really, please tell me more, as I'm on call for the WHOLE weekend, therefore can't join you tomorrow.

    Stupid job.
    I can't really say just yet - except to suggest that it looks like a promising development.

    Sorry to hear work has you off the bike the whole weekend, as tomorrow looks like it should be lovely. I will be escorting a nephew to the miniature railway in Eltham after lunch, so my riding will have to be over and done with by midday.

    More news as it comes to hand =)

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    Decided on a late start to work this morning to get a ride in!

    Anyone planning to cross the river in the next couple of days may have to wait or get wet!
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    Haha! Crazy. Has the bridge been built in the gully just on the other side of this crossing? I remember seeing the boards there a month ago.

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    I rode north and south this arvo - the river level is back to normal.

    Minions are a definite advantage atm, it means it's only my legs that prevent me from riding up the spurline. Kudos to whoever manages it all the way from the bottom - a runup is now possible.

    Take care on the way down, there's no transition and the ground is not level.

    Feel free to add a few rocks to the pile for later use.

    Edit: Oh yeah - it *is* wide, but it's a little ways up. OHS and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    I rode north and south this arvo - the river level is back to normal.

    Minions are a definite advantage atm, it means it's only my legs that prevent me from riding up the spurline. Kudos to whoever manages it all the way from the bottom - a runup is now possible.

    Take care on the way down, there's no transition and the ground is not level.

    Feel free to add a few rocks to the pile for later use.

    Edit: Oh yeah - it *is* wide, but it's a little ways up. OHS and all that.

    Nice work, mate! I'll check it out sometime during the weekend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Nice work, mate! I'll check it out sometime during the weekend!

    Sounds like it's about time to head across the river again. It's been a few weeks since I last went over there at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    Sounds like it's about time to head across the river again. It's been a few weeks since I last went over there at all...
    2 o'clock today!

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    Rode there on Sunday, well done lads the new little bridge is awesome makes it a lot easier to get up now without having to put a foot down! It does need a few rocks to make the transition onto the bridge a little safer, when heading back down

    Quiggs

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    I'll agree with Cowpat's statement of Minions being an advantage at the moment. I took beardi around the south loop today. Mega grease fest, but still fun, Ardent and Crossmark is not the combo for the current conditions.

    Sadly though, lots of moto roost marks around the loop..... bastards!!!

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    yep, minions would have been a real help out there yesterday! Some great trails there though so a big thanks for being the tour guide (again) and an even bigger thanks to the trail fairies out that way; it was a lot of fun, look forward to riding it again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    I rode north and south this arvo - the river level is back to normal.

    Minions are a definite advantage atm, it means it's only my legs that prevent me from riding up the spurline. Kudos to whoever manages it all the way from the bottom - a runup is now possible.

    Take care on the way down, there's no transition and the ground is not level.

    Feel free to add a few rocks to the pile for later use.

    Edit: Oh yeah - it *is* wide, but it's a little ways up. OHS and all that.
    A run-up may well be possible, but it sure isn't easy!

    Excellent job on the crossing, cowpat =)

    I have only been over once since you completed it, and if I get the chance I will certainly pop over and help gather some stone for the transition - although my time is a bit precious of late, with backyard renovations taking up every decent weather weekend, and organising the social rides...

    The runners turned a fair few sections into bogs, but they also tamped down the cliff track across to Blue Lake really nicely! Certainly some detouring around the more mucky crossings would b a good idea - but finding the time and labour necessary, especially in what is very much a 'grey' area, is proving a challenge this time of year. Hopefully summer and DST will free up some time!

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    Nah I can't ride up from the bottom either, and may never be able to. Might be worth having a go in summer once there's enough grip for a lighter bike...but it was never meant to be easy...

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    Strava that climb......





    ........ just kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    ........ just kidding.
    We believe you

    Will have to get out there and check out this new crossing. Haven't seen the north side (other than that brief reconnaissance a while ago) for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered View Post
    We believe you

    Will have to get out there and check out this new crossing. Haven't seen the north side (other than that brief reconnaissance a while ago) for ages.
    I reckon all this rain might make that a little difficult again for a while - but the river levels indicated here might suggest otherwise...

    I ain't going out there again until it's dried up a bit. And I intend to use those drying days to get some more backyard work done in the few I anticipate we will have before summer!

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    Might be a bit deep for river crossing tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Strava that climb......





    ........ just kidding.
    You may be - but someone already has...

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    Tracks are great at the moment, have dried out and are riding quick. Maybe two or three puddles in the bottom of a gully or similar but on my 20km ride i didn't notice any of it.

    Great day for it too. Happy fathers day to you dads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sedifus View Post
    Tracks are great at the moment, have dried out and are riding quick. Maybe two or three puddles in the bottom of a gully or similar but on my 20km ride i didn't notice any of it.

    Great day for it too. Happy fathers day to you dads.
    This is good news.

    Hope to get out later in the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Hope to get out later in the week.
    Depending on how much rain is expected, maybe Wednesday or Thursday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    Depending on how much rain is expected, maybe Wednesday or Thursday?
    Is that you saying you'll join me?

    Thursday is more realistic for me I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Is that you saying you'll join me?

    Thursday is more realistic for me I think.
    Maybe, text me if you're heading out, if you'd like some company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    Maybe, text me if you're heading out, if you'd like some company.
    Will do.

    Cheers.

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    Did someone lose a drink bottle?
    I found one today on the north side. It is white, pm me what brand/team it is and we can sort out when i can get it to you.

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    Yup, it's dry now. Amazing what a difference a few spring days has made.

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    Sweet! Hoping to get out and clean up some of the fresh growth, south side is quite tight at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sedifus View Post
    Sweet! Hoping to get out and clean up some of the fresh growth, south side is quite tight at the moment.
    That would be very kindly of you, sir. I spent some time today rebuilding the rocky/concrete crossing up near Janefield today, so it should last a few more months. I reckon it might be a good idea to abandon that line though, and go up across the big pipe which is about 20m up the gully from there. Thoughts?

    Then I wandered over the north side, to see how much of the trails I could cover in one go. Without going across the big bog (where the runners trashed the gully bottom) that gets you over on the lesser-used western trails, I covered over 16km. The new extensions to Jess's Track are pretty neat-o, I reckon. Someone's been busy! Today I rode at least 4km of trails I hadn't seen (or linked together) before. Happy times =)

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    I used to ride over the pipe across the pinebark. But I thought it was too easy. But then I haven't been rebuilding the crossing either (though it did look fine to me last Thursday)...

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    Is the rocky crossing you're referring to the one upstream of the collapsed road corner? If so, I really like that crossing. It's got all the hallmarks of a classic bit of MTB singletrack. It's the sort of crossing you see in magazine photos. Maybe I'm alone in that thought, but from the first time I rode it I considered it to be an excellent addition.

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    Is the rocky crossing you're referring to the one upstream of the collapsed road corner? If so, I really like that crossing. It's got all the hallmarks of a classic bit of MTB singletrack. It's the sort of crossing you see in magazine photos. Maybe I'm alone in that thought, but from the first time I rode it I considered it to be an excellent addition.
    One and the same. I agree that its very MTB and a great part of the tracks. We can't dumb them down too much. Maybe if someone accidently spilt some quick-rete on it, over the smaller loose rocks, this rebuilding problem would stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Sadly though, lots of moto roost marks around the loop..... bastards!!!
    Had a little problem with a few on Sunday arvo. A couple passed me on some single track. Not dangerous, just inconsiderate. Saw them later with their ute that they had driven right into the Park. I made a suggestion (politelty!) but it didn't go down too well! I left it at that!

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    A few of them ride past my place on their way in. Nearly hit one in the head with a orange...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    Had a little problem with a few on Sunday arvo. A couple passed me on some single track. Not dangerous, just inconsiderate. Saw them later with their ute that they had driven right into the Park. I made a suggestion (politelty!) but it didn't go down too well! I left it at that!
    So now they're driving in...not just young kids of stupid parents who buy them a bike but won't take them anywhere to ride it...how old are they? Where do they come in? What tracks were they on? PM me if you prefer.

    Yeah there was someone doing circle work on the grass in their Jeep the other day. I took out my phone to take some pics of their rego - they drove straight off as soon as they saw that...and before I could get a clear shot.

    YKY, you need to work on your aim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sedifus View Post
    One and the same. I agree that its very MTB and a great part of the tracks. We can't dumb them down too much. Maybe if someone accidently spilt some quick-rete on it, over the smaller loose rocks, this rebuilding problem would stop?
    I also love the crossing - it's a challenge to line it up properly when the way in is slippery, but getting it right sets you up for the next little climb - which was my preferred route over CP's straight line up the hill (that I couldn't climb).
    My concern is more over the fact that, when the bigger chunks of concrete were last washed away, there was a distinct possibility of getting the front wheel grabbed on the way through, and the broken roadbed and bits of guttering in the gully below just looked to be waiting for someone to fall in there. Don't get me wrong - it still does look pretty bad for falling in to, but at least this should be less likely now the way through is a bit smoother.

    And thanks to the person who trimmed that horrible yellow flowered weedy stuff - my skin is very appreciative after this arvo's quick blast

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    So now they're driving in...not just young kids of stupid parents who buy them a bike but won't take them anywhere to ride it...how old are they? Where do they come in? What tracks were they on? PM me if you prefer.

    Yeah there was someone doing circle work on the grass in their Jeep the other day. I took out my phone to take some pics of their rego - they drove straight off as soon as they saw that...and before I could get a clear shot.

    YKY, you need to work on your aim.
    Wholly crap I was close though. I launched it from my balcony, taking into account his approaching speed and possible line, bounced once and flew about 10-20cms in front of his face. Made him flinch back and nearly fall off, so he fairly sh!t himself. Haven't seen that guy since.

    I'm actually going to put a call into the Hoon Hotline to get the Special Solo Vic Police Branch (Cops on dirtbikes), to head out. They do a lot patrols around Melbourne areas for similar situations. But people need to put in the complaints so they know about it. The more complaints, the quicker and more thorough the action from the police will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yippee_Ki_YayMF View Post
    I'm actually going to put a call into the Hoon Hotline to get the Special Solo Vic Police Branch (Cops on dirtbikes), to head out. They do a lot patrols around Melbourne areas for similar situations. But people need to put in the complaints so they know about it. The more complaints, the quicker and more thorough the action from the police will be.
    I would actually consider joining the police force if my job were just riding around on a moto catching hoons. Only I'd suggest the cops ride electric motos so you can sneak up on them.

    (provided they taught me how to ride a motorbike, of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    So now they're driving in...not just young kids of stupid parents who buy them a bike but won't take them anywhere to ride it...how old are they? Where do they come in? What tracks were they on? PM me if you prefer.
    I think they came in through University Hill and then parked just off the pipeline easement near the sandy, circular trail that they have ripped up!!!

    First group, the ones that passed me, I would say mid 20s to mid 30s. The other group, two younger kids and an adult, mid 20s.

    I'm pretty sure that they covered most of the trails on the southside! The group overtook me on the trail between the area where all the jumps are and the fireroad that has the water rut down the middle that you cross.

    Don't get me wrong, I have no issues with people enjoying themselves on trailbikes. I used to do the same when I had a bike in my teens! Most of my riding was done on the 200 acres of bush on my cousins' property in Lal Lal (30kms from Ballarat). Lots of fun!! Spent a lot of time up there on my Malvern Star Tarago bike too!! I wish they still had that place!! Got up to a lot of things during my stays up there!!

    Anyway, enough of the reminiscing! There are more suitable places to ride and these guys need to show a bit more respect to the trails (and the people that built them), especially in the way they use their throttle!

    PM sent Casper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jossa View Post
    I think they came in through University Hill and then parked just off the pipeline easement near the sandy, circular trail that they have ripped up!!!

    <snip>

    There are more suitable places to ride and these guys need to show a bit more respect to the trails (and the people that built them), especially in the way they use their throttle!
    I thought you couldn't come in through Uni Hill without getting through a gate - has something been busted open? Or left open after the running race, maybe?

    I agree that sharing the trails with moto-riders isn't always bad. Mostly they shred the trails up with too much throttle, but I have encountered the odd few who are out to enjoy the ride and work on their skills at low speed. Sadly they are few and far between, in my experience.

    The South side really should be off limits to motos anyway, IMHO. Pretty sure it is, actually, but I had thought they might respect that if they had a ute to go further afield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerthis View Post
    I thought you couldn't come in through Uni Hill without getting through a gate - has something been busted open?
    With all the property development happening on the edge of the park I guess it's easy to find a way in right now, and not much can be done about it I suppose. I guess once the houses are built there'll be a fence all the way around.

    They are lazy. It's 30 minutes up the road to get to Mt Disappointment or Kinglake. Legal places to ride with real tracks and proper hills. On the other hand these guys will be unlicensed and unregistered and incapable of riding actual dirt bike tracks on their little Chinese pitbikes. Fwiw the dirt bike community dislikes these guys just as much as the MTB community. (And yes, when riding with friends we have blasted past such guys hopelessly stuck on hills out of gullies, at least there is that level of payback.)

    At least they won't cross the plank. Part of the problem with the other crossing was that motos could get through. I've a mind to make the other crossing permanently uncrossable, at least to motos, even when the water level drops.

    I was wondering if a few MTB-friendly but unskilled-moto-rider-unfriendly obstacles might keep them off the single at least. I don't know how many of them would go down the hill and ride across the sleeper, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpat View Post
    At least they won't cross the plank. Part of the problem with the other crossing was that motos could get through. I've a mind to make the other crossing permanently uncrossable, at least to motos, even when the water level drops.

    I was wondering if a few MTB-friendly but unskilled-moto-rider-unfriendly obstacles might keep them off the single at least. I don't know how many of them would go down the hill and ride across the sleeper, for example.
    True about the plank! When people have asked me why it's so skinny and flexy, that's the reply I give them.

    'Fixing' the other crossing probably won't do much - if they're that hopeless, I can't see them getting out of the massive rut they've created there!

    More obstacles are probably our best bet - but we really can't 'fence off' the trailheads in the more open areas, because they will just ride around.

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    **FOUND** Set of Fiskars lopper/pruners**

    Was riding Plenty Gorge today for the first time in months and found a set of Fiskars lopper/pruners in one of the gullies on the north side near "Josh's Track". Its the boggy section near some brush that has been laid down, if they're yours you'll know where I mean. I couldn't carry them out so I've left them against a tree, so hopefully you can grab them before someone else does.

    The track conditions are simply fantastic at the moment, I was even able to ride the full length of the cliff track without dabbing, a first for me. Another first, I've been able to link together a pretty good loop taking in both sides with minimal retraces.

    Thanks to the trail fairies that placed the VERY well constructed bridge and the plank across the Plenty. I chose my direction so I came down to the wet crossing, and down to the new bridge. I'm sure some of you clever bastards can ride up those climbs but I'm stuffed if I can!! Next time I go to the the Gorge I'll take some secateurs. Particularly along the cliff, the undergrowth is starting to encroach across the track.

    23C, sunny and simply perfect but very quiet today, only saw 2 other bikes and 2 pairs of walkers. No motos, it's disappointing to know they're in there but inevitable really. FWIW, the Hoon Hotline (which is just the Crimestoppers line) will do little except take down any details, but if they get enough reports then they may target the area. If you can get the rego of any bikes or utes, and pass them onto the hotline, it may help, it's worth a shot. There are plenty of places where they can ride legally and areas like the Gorge are simply inappropriate, and just a little dangerous to us riders. If the bikes and riders are unlicensed and unregistered, then even more so.

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    Probably wasn't lost. Strategically left behind perhaps? I know I sometimes leave tools in the bush for when I go back.

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    Was that a stack at the end of your vid Yippee?

    Nice riding, regardless. Good to see what my bike is capable of, even if the rider is most definitely not.

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