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    Clear the air

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    Too long, didn't read.

    Liar, or snitch, which hat do you find most comfortable?

    If you're not a snitch, what are you lying about in that long sh!t show of a post there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    First of all I would like to thank several viewers of this thread for not outing Jennifer's boyfriend. Her boyfriend has contributed several thousands of hours to the mountain biking user-built trail work before dating Jennifer (BDJ) and now after BDJ he has been the #1 Sedona FS volunteer doing the same work.

    He unlike any FS volunteer he came into his position with more hands on trail building experience than any other FS volunteer ever in the history of the USFS. If any of you don't believe me (sometimes I stretch the reality curve a LITTLE) just ask Justin. Justin has now been under the tutelage of Jennifer's boyfriend since about a year after BDJ, and he can tell us what he has learned from working under Jennifer's boyfriend and along side of him.

    Jennifer's boyfriend is one of the hardest working trail builders I have ever had the opportunity to work with. He isn't as concerned about erosion potential of a new constructed trail as I am, but he can move more large pieces of rock with a 6' steel bar than anyone I have ever seen (that's not entirely true but close).

    What is interesting about this whole relationship is that Jennifer doesn't seem to realize he boyfriend has done a thousand times more user built trail work before BDJ and a little after BDJ than I ever have.

    So after I did my sentence and paid my fine in full before I was sentenced, for doing the Tea Cup repair work I asked her to be the trail boss on the Anaconda trail, she once again thru me under the bus and said NO WAY JOSE. We are not going to let you work on an authorized FS project because you have shown NO REMORSE for your previous transgression. If some of us don't see the hypocrisy in that train of thought then my name isn't TD.

    I mean I am not the smartest passionate trail worker on earth like Jennifer's boyfriend but at least I have some passion about keeping trails in good working order, so why not give me a break like she has given her boyfriend?

    Anyway, she and Heather have chosen to make me suffer the rest of the days I have on this great earth and I will just have to keep documenting the history of how that suffering is affecting someone who has put their heart and soul into making Sedona a great world class mountain bike destination.

    As we all know mountain bikers are not recognized by the FS as primary users of the trail system. We are only allowed to use trails that the primary users (i.e. pedestrians, hikers, equestrians) have been designated to use the trail. I you don't believe me just read the Handbook.

    I, Jennifer's boyfriend and about eight others have tried to show the FS that the mountain bikers should be considered as primary users in the Coconino National Forest because we volunteered more effort into the great Sedona mountain bike trail system than any other group of volunteers before BDJ or after BDJ. Not only that but we don't mind sharing the fruits of those efforts with the hiking community of Sedona as long as they don't give us JAZZ (as Bill O'Reilly would say) about it.

    Now if you really want to find out who Jennifer's boyfriend is because your dying of curiosity you might want to check out Rama Jon's new book. It is fast becoming one of the hottest mountain biking books on Sedona mountain biking ever. Not only is Rama giving us the opportunity to see who Jennifer's boyfriend is, but he is donating some of the proceeds of his book towards a funding mechanism to perpetuate the progress of making mountain bilkers primary users on certain trails in Sedona.

    If he could just get Jennifer and her boyfriend to sign the book with a little comment like he did on my copy, the book would be flying off the sheves in the local Sedona bike shops. This would greatly help our cause in Sedona by letting people around the world know mountain bike trail building is a good thing. It allows people to travel long distances, get needed exercise, view beautiful scenery and enjoy the social benefits of riding with a bunch of like minded friends and possibly future friends.

    TD
    How do we know any of this rant is the truth? You've mislead before and admit it in this post!

    Sounds more like Jennifer turned you down for a dip in the hot tub, and you have never let it go.
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    LOL.. no one really gives a crap what his name is TD... It's your repetitive use of terms like "Jennifer's Boyfriend" or "User Built Experience" etc.. that make people want to ignore your post.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post

    Sounds more like Jennifer turned you down for a dip in the hot tub, and you have never let it go.
    I bet it went like:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    I don't need his full name, address, Social Security, and credit card number. Does the guy have a first name? Bill or Ted? George? Sue? That's gott be more concise than banging out "Jennifer's boyfriend" twenty times, right?
    Is there some hidden meaning in using the word that starts with a Ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post


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    Shortened it up for the readers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    How do we know any of this rant is the truth?
    Its true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Its true.
    Truth and reality are such tricky things. To an individual, truth and reality are only measured by how your brain interprets a set of electrical signals. Now, to a properly functioning brain, truth and reality will be fairly similar to said individual and any unconnected bystander. But, if the said individual has a malfunctioning brain, truth, reality, and perception can be gravely different between said individual and a bystander.

    Did said individual tell the truth as they saw it? Possibly. Does it conflict with what actually happened? Possibly.

    See where I'm going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Truth and reality are such tricky things. To an individual, truth and reality are only measured by how your brain interprets a set of electrical signals. Now, to a properly functioning brain, truth and reality will be fairly similar to said individual and any unconnected bystander. But, if the said individual has a malfunctioning brain, truth, reality, and perception can be gravely different between said individual and a bystander.

    Did said individual tell the truth as they saw it? Possibly. Does it conflict with what actually happened? Possibly.

    See where I'm going?
    Yep, you also know I'm not the type to cut TD any slack or not call him out on BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Yep, you also know I'm not the type to cut TD any slack or not call him out on BS.
    77:

    Thank-you for lending some credibility to all of my previous posts on this very important subject matter. Jennifer and her boyfriend have almost single-handedly changed the mountain biking dynamic in Sedona.

    In Whistler Jennifer would be running the Parks and Recreation Department for the Whistler Muni and her boyfriend would be Chris Markle the famous mountain bike trail builder who built some of the most famous Whistler user built trails.

    They would both be looked at as pioneers in help building a great mountain bike trail system. They would both be openly given great praise for all their good works. My motive has always been to give Jennifer and her boyfriend the credit due them for what they are trying to accomplish.

    I think Rama sums it up in his book how Jennifer's boyfriend was able to influence the FS to adopt 80% of his masterpieces. To me this is a good thing and needs to be showcased, so they can get the credit due them.

    Unfortunately some people think that what Jennifer and her boyfriend have done is not that big of a deal, and they don't deserve anymore credit than other people who have work on Sedona trails. Well I am here to tell you those people don't know what they are talking about.

    Jennifer has struggled to get her employees to step it up and help with the adoption process. As usual not all her employees felt the same way as she did when it came to moving the paperwork forward in an efficient manner. So she said screw this I am going out of the system and am going to hire outside contractors to speed up the process. She needs to be commended for taking the initiative to hire people who are more efficient and quicker in completing the tasks needed to be done to move the adoption process forward.

    When she started dating her boyfriend she got her hands on the golden egg. Not only did her new boyfriend have the same vision as I did, but he also had the trail system to make her dream happen.

    I respect what Jennifer and her boyfriend have done and it is my hope other builders trails can also be adopted. Certainly if Jennifer can get Highline (Hiline) adopted the sky is the limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    I think Easy has a crush on TD, why else would he have the same avatar as TD?
    FWI jackbombay, I just started reading this thread and stopped at your post to respond.

    I was reading another thread just a few moments and I noticed EasyE's avatar had changed (back I think) and thought, why would he do that? I now have a better understanding of what might have motivated the avatar change. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Interesting, I thought I read Traildoc had to tattle to get a reduced sentence!
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    You read wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Pretty sure I read it correctly, not the only person that read it either! Maybe TD was trying to mislead people with his typing's? That or he thoguht it would gain him sympathy about his banning and fine situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Just got a PM from someone which claims that TD did not rat anyone out. I'll take their word on that. I still know what I read, so other than severe mental issues! I have no clue why someone would write that they did on a public forum.

    Thanks for watching another episode of As the Wheel Rolls.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    I don't need his full name, address, Social Security, and credit card number. Does the guy have a first name? Bill or Ted? George? Sue? That's gott be more concise than banging out "Jennifer's boyfriend" twenty times, right?
    GUYS!!!!!and gals,

    I think I have a good understanding of this, allow me to interject.

    I have personally spoken with TD and I have no reason to believe he ratted out anyone to lessen his "sentence", if any of you do, bring it! I think we won't be hearing about that crap anymore!!!! Please!

    C64,
    Thank you for not jumping to conclusions on what was/may have been written. Who wrote what about who on a public forum? If it's irrelevant to the topic don't answer, I was just curious.

    EasyE,

    Let's call it "steve", ya Steve is nice...I like Steve!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Truth and reality are such tricky things. To an individual, truth and reality are only measured by how your brain interprets a set of electrical signals. Now, to a properly functioning brain, truth and reality will be fairly similar to said individual and any unconnected bystander. But, if the said individual has a malfunctioning brain, truth, reality, and perception can be gravely different between said individual and a bystander.

    Did said individual tell the truth as they saw it? Possibly. Does it conflict with what actually happened? Possibly.

    See where I'm going?
    EasyE, Absolutely!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Yep, you also know I'm not the type to cut TD any slack or not call him out on BS.
    m77ranger, That which you say, is true!! Albeit understandably harsh at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideNShine View Post

    I have personally spoken with TD and I have no reason to believe he ratted out anyone to lessen his "sentence", if any of you do, bring it! I think we won't be hearing about that crap anymore!!!! Please!
    The crap you refer to was posted by the liar himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    The crap you refer to was posted by the liar himself.
    Oh really, we are talking about the same event right?

    You are saying that TD posted on this forum, that he snitched to the FS to lessen his sentence that he just did? If so, then that sir is contrary to what I had understood from him in person.

    No further discussion on this is necessary, I will no longer comment on anything from the username traildoc. I have no choice but to protect myself and remove myself completely from anything that TD is involved with. I will no longer support even the positive this man has done based on my core principles and ethics. I know when to hold em, and I know when to fold em...I'm all in!!! " FOLD!"

    Respectfully R&S
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideNShine View Post
    Oh really, we are talking about the same event right?

    You are saying that TD posted on this forum, that he snitched to the FS to lessen his sentence that he just did? If so, then that sir is contrary to what I had understood from him in person.

    No further discussion on this is necessary, I will no longer comment on anything from the username traildoc. I have no choice but to protect myself and remove myself completely from anything that TD is involved with. I will no longer support even the positive this man has done based on my core principles and ethics. I know when to hold em, and I know when to fold em...I'm all in!!! " FOLD!"

    Respectfully R&S
    I am backing Mrwhlr on this, as I read the same thing. Question is, if it was not the truth what point did TD have in proclaiming such a thing? If it is to stir up the forum and be a troll? Fine but don't expect anyone to believe what you post about Sedona as factual.

    All these claims that so and so won't let me do this or that. If I where in charge I also would have second thoughts with someone not being honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    I am backing Mrwhlr on this, as I read the same thing. Question is, if it was not the truth what point did TD have in proclaiming such a thing? If it is to stir up the forum and be a troll? Fine but don't expect anyone to believe what you post about Sedona as factual.

    All these claims that so and so won't let me do this or that. If I where in charge I also would have second thoughts with someone not being honest.
    C64
    I am in the same boat as you guys now.

    To ALL
    I am not completely convinced TD has absolutely lied to me, as I thought about things further, I don't think I ever questioned him about that issue in person, I think I just gave him the benefit of the doubt that no one would do such things even TD. This still remains unproven in my book but it certainly doesn't make me feel any better about the person I know in life and on this forum. Something isn't right, and instead of bashing and discrediting him, I will simply "ignore" him and I asked the same of him on here and in life. I wished him and his wife a peaceful happy journey in their life and endeavors.

    Thank you for your time,
    Respectfully R&S

    Now back to your regular topic discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideNShine View Post
    C64
    I am in the same boat as you guys now.

    To ALL
    I am not completely convinced TD has absolutely lied to me, as I thought about things further, I don't think I ever questioned him about that issue in person, I think I just gave him the benefit of the doubt that no one would do such things even TD. This still remains unproven in my book but it certainly doesn't make me feel any better about the person I know in life and on this forum. Something isn't right, and instead of bashing and discrediting him, I will simply "ignore" him and I asked the same of him on here and in life. I wished him and his wife a peaceful happy journey in their life and endeavors.

    Thank you for your time,
    Respectfully R&S

    Now back to your regular topic discussion.
    R&S, Why don't you fill us in on any conversations you may have had with the Red Rock District LEO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    R&S, Why don't you fill us in on any conversations you may have had with the Red Rock District LEO?
    Why not just man up and say what you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Why not just man up and say what you mean?
    Hey! Only TD gets to tell people to man up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideNShine View Post
    Something isn't right,

    You've observed the endless flow of nonsense rhetoric and you're just now concluding that. Oh f@ck me, I just about fell out of my chair laughing! Thank you sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    R&S, Why don't you fill us in on any conversations you may have had with the Red Rock District LEO?
    Whoa, whoa, whoa!

    We already got one snitch around here, we don't need another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Hey! Only TD gets to tell people to man up!
    I think traildock just likes the sound of 'man up' a little too much.
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