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    What the heck happened to the tire thread.

    What did you say Yeti about the 2.3 Eskar S-WORKS 2Bliss Ready Tire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    What did you say Yeti about the 2.3 Eskar S-WORKS 2Bliss Ready Tire?
    Somebody from the 29er forum hit the "Report This Post" button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Somebody from the 29er forum hit the "Report This Post" button.
    That bastage!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    That bastage!
    We need a "paid spam- One less 29er stickers in stock" thread... Posted in the 29er forum of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensitive
    sounds like some butt hurt. All over a sticker........
    Of the "drawing a penis on your car hood" variety?
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    Gregg pulled it because it was started by a sockpuppet account. Carry on over here.
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    so yeah try the dissents Heavy and sticky. Manly some might even venture to say.

    Definitely not leadville tires but AZ tires. pimp.
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    How are the Gaex tires? I tried the DH ones with mixed results. Nice tires but finicky and don't like water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    How are the Gaex tires? I tried the DH ones with mixed results. Nice tires but finicky and don't like water.
    Saguaro seems to be working fine on the rear. But again I have 3 rides on it as I had just installed it when the knee went.

    Buddy just suggested the Specialized Purgatory 2.4. But everyone seems out of stock on that tire. What the store over by SOMO that stocks Specialized tires?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    How are the Gaex tires? I tried the DH ones with mixed results. Nice tires but finicky and don't like water.
    I have used the saguaro until it wore out. Has more traction than any tire with that tread pattern should have. Wore ok, seemed to lose a lot of tread initially then held on for quite awhile until I replaced it.

    They do have slice-prone sidewalls for some riders. I never had a problem but others sliced them almost immediately. The TNT version is infinitely better a sidewall strength and are highly suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    They do have slice-prone sidewalls for some riders. I never had a problem but others sliced them almost immediately. The TNT version is infinitely better a sidewall strength and are highly suggested.
    I got about 4 rides out of mine before I sliced the sidewall. Up to that point, I liked it however...
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    I got about 4 rides out of mine before I sliced the sidewall. Up to that point, I liked it however...

    well maybe not infinitely better but perhaps 200% better as my friends were getting 2 rides out of them. I however did get many many months out of mine. Including the 24hrITOP laps with nary a hitch. They were pretty much bald when I retired them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    well maybe not infinitely better but perhaps 200% better as my friends were getting 2 rides out of them. I however did get many many months out of mine. Including the 24hrITOP laps with nary a hitch. They were pretty much bald when I retired them.
    Could have just been bad luck. Some of the rocks out here are razor sharp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Could have just been bad luck. Some of the rocks out here are razor sharp.
    Thought you were just hanging out at the 32nd street drinking beer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    Thought you were just hanging out at the 32nd street drinking beer!
    Whatever....I get there 2 mins late and the lushes had finihsed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    well maybe not infinitely better but perhaps 200% better as my friends were getting 2 rides out of them. I however did get many many months out of mine. Including the 24hrITOP laps with nary a hitch. They were pretty much bald when I retired them.
    Oh, so just like the Neuron and the DHEA. I sliced one DHEA and my Neuron is still good. However Posh and Sixty both have piles of sliced Neurons and DHEAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Whatever....I get there 2 mins late and the lushes had finihsed them.
    latecomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    well maybe not infinitely better but perhaps 200% better as my friends were getting 2 rides out of them. I however did get many many months out of mine. Including the 24hrITOP laps with nary a hitch. They were pretty much bald when I retired them.
    wow, that is amazing!

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    Im riding some Continental Trail Kings 2.4...They are the best tires I've ever had...Only 26 bucks a piece @ Dominics 2 wheelers...

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    I've not had much luck with the Saguaro on rock....but I may have too narrow a rim....I'm curious as to why folks here like the Saguaro. The tire just did not seem that compliant....but it sure wears ok.

    It's a fast tire for sure and when I want to ride long and fast....I go with it on the rear...but it has always sketched me out anytime I ride some rock.....I'm starting to suspect from comments here that it's a completely different tire with a much wider rim than I'm currently on.

    Case in point...I rode some Exiwolfs on my front and it washed out a lot....then I rode some Exiwolfs on a borrowed bike with a wider rim profile and loved it on the same terrain.

    So what say you Saguaro lovers....what width rim are you running them on?

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    I don't have enough time on the saguaro to offer a report. I hope the TNT version holds up better than what is being reported. I'm going to give a specialized purgatory 2.4 a try for a front tire. Heading out in a few to pick one up at DNA. If I'm lucky the insulin pump training won't take too long and I can get it mounted up tonight.
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    I don't think the tread compound is any different between the TNT and non TNT versions based on my experience with both.....it's just a sidewall and bead kind of thing. Obviously the TNT has beefier sidewalls, but the TNT bead also has ridges almost like a 3 bladed windshield wiper which really lock it in.....hence the gripe that it takes a 3 foot tire leaver to remove/install the GEAX TNT line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Whatever....I get there 2 mins late and the lushes had finihsed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    I don't think the tread compound is any different between the TNT and non TNT versions based on my experience with both.....it's just a sidewall and bead kind of thing. Obviously the TNT has beefier sidewalls, but the TNT bead also has ridges almost like a 3 bladed windshield wiper which really lock it in.....hence the gripe that it takes a 3 foot tire leaver to remove/install the GEAX TNT line.
    On 26in version I didn't have the same issue. I saw others that were hard to get on though.

    TNT has nothing to do with the sidewall. Its the TubeNoTube lineup. Run it with a rim strip, tubeless, or tube. One of the best tubeless mounting tires without question though.

    Doesn't like cuts and it is a slippery brand of tire on wet rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    TNT has nothing to do with the sidewall. Its the TubeNoTube lineup. Run it with a rim strip, tubeless, or tube. One of the best tubeless mounting tires without question though.

    I respectively disagree....according to GEAX's website.....TNT has additional sidewall casing:

    http://www.geax.com/en/technology/?cat=20&prod=77

    The weight difference between the lines (TNT vs. non TNT) bears this out.

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    Purgatory installed. It is big! Held air w/o stans on a Flow rim. Looking good so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    I respectively disagree....according to GEAX's website.....TNT has additional sidewall casing:

    http://www.geax.com/en/technology/?cat=20&prod=77

    The weight difference between the lines (TNT vs. non TNT) bears this out.
    Touche. I read the product lineup at Cactus along time ago when we were squirting all over the cheap alternative to Maxxis.

    Guess who is all back on the Maxxis (not getting cut) bandwagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Touche. I read the product lineup at Cactus along time ago when we were squirting all over the cheap alternative to Maxxis.

    Guess who is all back on the Maxxis (not getting cut) bandwagon?
    Darn it don't jinx my Saguaro! It's toughest tire known to mankind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Touche. I read the product lineup at Cactus along time ago when we were squirting all over the cheap alternative to Maxxis.

    Guess who is all back on the Maxxis (not getting cut) bandwagon?
    I just ripped open my ignitor last week. Lasted maybe a little over a month. It was on the single speed too, which isn't seeing the harsh trails. Not a fan of the Maxxis line, but that's just my experience.

    Saguaro's are pretty good in my book (run them on the FS). The non TnT version does get cuts from time to time but is okay as a front, rear it's too frequent of an occurance to tolerate. I run a TnT in the back and have only had one small rip that sealed up with a little help. They SUCK on anything wet..... rocks or sand. Tried to climb Tom's Thumb one rainy day... was not plesent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Touche. I read the product lineup at Cactus along time ago when we were squirting all over the cheap alternative to Maxxis.

    Guess who is all back on the Maxxis (not getting cut) bandwagon?

    So you know I've not been in the fat-tire game as long as others....fill me in....did GEAX used to be uber cheep?

    I've always equated them with being ultra burly......this dates me perhaps.....so be it....

    On that note....I can actually feel that the tire is less compliant...not just in terms of density of tread....but more noticeably, the sidewalls seem to give less in the same PSI configuration as, lets say; a WTB.

    What I mean to say is....with GEAX tires....I have to run a lower PSI to get the same amount of "cush", or "tire suspension-feel" as from another brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdpowers
    I just ripped open my ignitor last week. Lasted maybe a little over a month. It was on the single speed too, which isn't seeing the harsh trails. Not a fan of the Maxxis line, but that's just my experience.

    Saguaro's are pretty good in my book (run them on the FS). The non TnT version does get cuts from time to time but is okay as a front, rear it's too frequent of an occurance to tolerate. I run a TnT in the back and have only had one small rip that sealed up with a little help. They SUCK on anything wet..... rocks or sand. Tried to climb Tom's Thumb one rainy day... was not plesent.
    Maxxis Minions are awesome and super tough. So for FR/DH they are great. I did run Advantages when I got a CoilRepAir, but they died quickly. They were single ply though.

    Same experience as you JD, back tire Gaex sucked. Well, it was good until it cut. Very slippery in the wet as well. My Neuron is still rideable and there are not any cuts, but it is in the garage as a last resort back up.

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    I think we all agree......GEAX compound on wet rock sux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    So you know I've not been in the fat-tire game as long as others....fill me in....did GEAX used to be uber cheep?

    I've always equated them with being ultra burly......this dates me perhaps.....so be it....

    On that note....I can actually feel that the tire is less compliant...not just in terms of density of tread....but more noticeably, the sidewalls seem to give less in the same PSI configuration as, lets say; a WTB.

    What I mean to say is....with GEAX tires....I have to run a lower PSI to get the same amount of "cush", or "tire suspension-feel" as from another brand.
    Gaex Neuron is $50 msrp. DHEA is like $30 or $35 msrp. Maxxis Minion is $80.00 msrp.

    DH/FR stuff is pricey, but we don't skimp since we don't want our bikes to explode while we are riding them. Most of us are not very blingy (most) because the stuff breaks eventually. The cali boys however... they don't ride on rocks so they have blingy bikes.

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    I said burl....not bling......???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    Purgatory installed. It is big! Held air w/o stans on a Flow rim. Looking good so far.
    And as we all know, it's not how the tire rides, it's how it looks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    I said burl....not bling......???????
    I know. I don't think it is universally known that the cost of entry for DH is pretty high. Most of my non riding friends don't have the guts or the cash to even try. However, going to the bars every weekend and blowing a paycheck seems affordable...

    My first real bike was an SS 29er, it was $500 bucks and I dropped maybe another $300 on it over the few years that I have owned it.

    CoilRepAir was 2k and it cracked within 8 months. 8 months to go from noob, to broken bike noob. I also replaced every last part except the seat post and cassette. Now, I am buying parts that are tried and true, Hadley, Mavic, Race Face, Sram drivetrain as well as an awesome mechanic (Fish) has helped keep everything in working order while I continue to monster truck down trails.

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    dude....got it. I was just confused by the bling reference....I don't know anyone who values bling over crap blowing up on them....that should go to show you there's more in common here than is apparent.

    The last thing I want is something blowing up on me 40 miles from the nearest road, water, food and civy.....

    And OTB is OTB.....there's no distinction there....I never worry about a GEAX pharting on me up front in a ghetto tubeless config.....I just want something a little more sticky up front....GEAX just don't have it IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    dude....got it. I was just confused by the bling reference....I don't know anyone who values bling over crap blowing up on them....that should go to show you there's more in common here than is apparent.

    The last thing I want is something blowing up on me 40 miles from the nearest road, water, food and civy.....

    And OTB is OTB.....there's no distinction there....I never worry about a GEAX pharting on me up front in a ghetto tubeless config.....I just want something a little more sticky up front....GEAX just don't have it IMHO.
    Nope, but they do roll amazingly. I will give them that, the rolling resistance is next to none.

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    and the stopping resistance is also....next to none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    and the stopping resistance is also....next to none.
    I don't stop.

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