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    a viewpoint on Leadville

    "Here a big screw you to Levi Leipheimer: he said in his post race report that he couldn't believe how hard it was and he wished it was over from within 2 hrs in.

    Hey levi thanks for wishing something that some people spend a year training for was over before you started and won it. If you didn't know what you were getting into try riding an f-ing mountain bike before you show up and desecrate a race with your TDF fitness.

    Just cause you are fast and you win does not make you one of us and you took a real victory from a well deserved group of actual mountain bikers. Poser. GTFO.

    Any last respect I had for you is now erased."



    I just don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    "Here a big screw you to Levi Leipheimer: he said in his post race report that he couldn't believe how hard it was and he wished it was over from within 2 hrs in.

    Hey levi thanks for wishing something that some people spend a year training for was over before you started and won it. If you didn't know what you were getting into try riding an f-ing mountain bike before you show up and desecrate a race with your TDF fitness.

    Just cause you are fast and you win does not make you one of us and you took a real victory from a well deserved group of actual mountain bikers. Poser. GTFO.

    Any last respect I had for you is now erased."



    I just don't agree.

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    Who cares...yeah a lot of people do Leadville and think it is harder than they expected and wished it was over 2 hours in. That is all he is saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanDM
    Who cares...yeah a lot of people do Leadville and think it is harder than they expected and wished it was over 2 hours in. That is all he is saying.
    that and saying that an open race with a history of TDF riders in it is only for mountainbike riders.

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    12000'

    Riding at 12,000' which this race goes beyond is really hard, damn, I can't catch my breath!
    You ever even walk around Leadville? I have. Still I think MTB races should be mostly on singletrack, not roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    "Here a big screw you to Levi Leipheimer: he said in his post race report that he couldn't believe how hard it was and he wished it was over from within 2 hrs in.

    Hey levi thanks for wishing something that some people spend a year training for was over before you started and won it. If you didn't know what you were getting into try riding an f-ing mountain bike before you show up and desecrate a race with your TDF fitness.

    Just cause you are fast and you win does not make you one of us and you took a real victory from a well deserved group of actual mountain bikers. Poser. GTFO.

    Any last respect I had for you is now erased."



    I just don't agree.
    at least have the balls to quote me on that.

    Since he won't post it himself for some reason here is a link to the thread.

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    I did previously, but somebody deleted it.

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    Wow! And to think I got to watch a few TdF stages sitting on a couch in Levi's brothers shop in Butte, Montana this year, surrounded by a bunch of Levi's framed jerseys (I actually got to tough a real yellow jersey from the TdF and his Olympic kit). It was pretty damn cool to say the least. Oh, and there sure were lots of pics of Levi racing and riding MTB in there too. Must have been photoshop...Jealousy, it's whats for dinner!
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    He DOES ride a mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBike'sBroken
    He DOES ride a mountain bike.


    plus, like, he rides bikes and stuff. To belittle the effort is silly.

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    holy jeepers you where in the same room as his jerseys and there were pictures of him? Wow.

    But seriously since that initial thread was so long and involved I took full responsibility for my actions and apologized for my initial reaction here:

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    so there you go not that I really give a honker about opinions on the internet but if you are going to make something of something I said then you should probably know the extenuating circumstances.

    Actually this forum would be a lot more tolerable and less volatile if a lot of users would actually just fess up to their motivations and then realize how inane it is to argue, attack and be negative on the internet much less in our own little community.

    and in the interest of full disclosure I have not nor have i ever had the desire to do that race in any way shape or form. I am generally and have always been against paying a lot of money so I can ride public trails for a long duration with a bunch of other people who have done the same. I can do that at home for free whenever I want.
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    I definitely think i'm missing something in this thread....but feel free to continue on....are you guys complaining about the race or levi, or something entirely different....better yet, don't tell me and let me come to my own entertaining conclusions....carry on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    holy jeepers you where in the same room as his jerseys and there were pictures of him? Wow.

    But seriously since that initial thread was so long and involved I took full responsibility for my actions and apologized for my initial reaction here:

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    so there you go not that I really give a honker about opinions on the internet but if you are going to make something of something I said then you should probably know the extenuating circumstances.

    Actually this forum would be a lot more tolerable and less volatile if a lot of users would actually just fess up to their motivations and then realize how inane it is to argue, attack and be negative on the internet much less in our own little community.

    and in the interest of full disclosure I have not nor have i ever had the desire to do that race in any way shape or form. I am generally and have always been against paying a lot of money so I can ride public trails for a long duration with a bunch of other people who have done the same. I can do that at home for free whenever I want.

    what exactly are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling
    I definitely think i'm missing something in this thread....but feel free to continue on....are you guys complaining about the race or levi, or something entirely different....better yet, don't tell me and let me come to my own entertaining conclusions....carry on..
    You and me both bro. I'm not sure if he was mad a Levi for apparently belittling the race, for taking a podium spot of a "real" mountain biker, and calling the race "easy." I guess it's easy to be critical after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    You and me both bro. I'm not sure if he was mad a Levi for apparently belittling the race, for taking a podium spot of a "real" mountain biker, and calling the race "easy." I guess it's easy to be critical after the fact.
    I'm inclined to think that the OP can say one thing and then apologize without any sort of rebuttal.

    Do as I say, not as I do kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    what exactly are you trying to say?

    I will break it down:

    holy jeepers you where in the same room as his jerseys and there were pictures of him? Wow.
    Sarcasm.

    But seriously since that initial thread was so long and involved I took full responsibility for my actions and apologized for my initial reaction here:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?...58=&postcount=8
    Explanation that the original post where I ranted about Levi and the Leadville was long and then a link to my explanations for my actions which were more wrought out of frustration at not having been out on my mountain bike in ages, having a 8 month pregnant wife, hot humid summer temps keeping indoors, etc.

    so there you go not that I really give a honker about opinions on the internet but if you are going to make something of something I said then you should probably know the extenuating circumstances.
    stating that if you are going to judge me on what I said then it makes sense that your judgment is based on all the available information. Which I too was guilty of in taking a quote/sound bite from Levi and attributing it to his lack of desire to be at a race he won and his, seemingly obvious to me from the quote, lack of mountain bike awesomeness.

    Actually this forum would be a lot more tolerable and less volatile if a lot of users would actually just fess up to their motivations and then realize how inane it is to argue, attack and be negative on the internet much less in our own little community.
    there seems to be a lot of differently motivated individuals on here. Some seem to have an ulterior motive to their actions. Obviously your actions are driven by being surly but others, that may read this are less obvious.

    and in the interest of full disclosure I have not nor have i ever had the desire to do that race in any way shape or form. I am generally and have always been against paying a lot of money so I can ride public trails for a long duration with a bunch of other people who have done the same. I can do that at home for free whenever I want.
    I am not interested in riding leadville or the whiskey or the breck epic, cascade creampuff, continental divide, soul ride, etc. as I don't really like paying money to ride my bike for long distances on jeep roads etc.

    Hope that clears that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    I am not interested in riding leadville or the whiskey or the breck epic, cascade creampuff, continental divide, soul ride, etc. as I don't really like paying money to ride my bike for long distances on jeep roads etc.
    But you do the 24HITOP?

    Not sure if you realize this, but you're still belittling those who take Leadville and all the other races you mention above seriously (including Levi).

    Yea, we all get riled up. Some things are better left unsaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    I'm inclined to think that the OP can say one thing and then apologize without any sort of rebuttal.

    Do as I say, not as I do kind of thing.

    actually I accept all the rebuttals in kind, the original thread is still active in the forums and is currently active in here.

    I kinda wanted to make a statement on how easy it is to misconstrue a sound bite from a professional cyclist by the general public of whom the majority base their opinions on AP feed sound bites but it came off as a rant against Levi.

    But I still feel the same way, the sports section article about Levi and the Leadville quotes him as saying he didn't want to be there, then goes on about landis, a explanation about why lance wasn't there, allegations against Lance by Landis and then about allegations against Levi by Landis.

    I feel the cycling doesn't get a fair shake in the US because it is portrayed much like soccer is, as a European sport with shin grabbing "babies" who bail out at the most inopportune times, complain about unfair officiating or courses or just complain in general.

    And just as soccer it will never get a fair shake until there is less coverage on the broom wagons, less *****ing and whining about stuff and, my god please, less comments about doping when actually reporting about the sport. I mean this article was 20% Levi at leadville, 30% Lance who didn't even race then 50% doping. Plus it totally missed the local angle which I am sure that there was more than one person from Tucson at Leadville.

    So I know Levi couldn't control what the sound bite was wrapped with but that is the reason I was initially cheesed off, had he said "that was the hardest race I have ever done but also the most fun I had in race ever" or something like that even if he was lying, the average arm chair joe would have seen fun and been less inclined to think he won the race cause he doped.

    Or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    actually I accept all the rebuttals in kind, the original thread is still active in the forums and is currently active in here.

    I kinda wanted to make a statement on how easy it is to misconstrue a sound bite from a professional cyclist by the general public of whom the majority base their opinions on AP feed sound bites but it came off as a rant against Levi.

    But I still feel the same way, the sports section article about Levi and the Leadville quotes him as saying he didn't want to be there, then goes on about landis, a explanation about why lance wasn't there, allegations against Lance by Landis and then about allegations against Levi by Landis.

    I feel the cycling doesn't get a fair shake in the US because it is portrayed much like soccer is, as a European sport with shin grabbing "babies" who bail out at the most inopportune times, complain about unfair officiating or courses or just complain in general.

    And just as soccer it will never get a fair shake until there is less coverage on the broom wagons, less *****ing and whining about stuff and, my god please, less comments about doping when actually reporting about the sport. I mean this article was 20% Levi at leadville, 30% Lance who didn't even race then 50% doping. Plus it totally missed the local angle which I am sure that there was more than one person from Tucson at Leadville.

    So I know Levi couldn't control what the sound bite was wrapped with but that is the reason I was initially cheesed off, had he said "that was the hardest race I have ever done but also the most fun I had in race ever" or something like that even if he was lying, the average arm chair joe would have seen fun and been less inclined to think he won the race cause he doped.

    Or something like that.

    yeah. something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    But I still feel the same way, the sports section article about Levi and the Leadville quotes him as saying he didn't want to be there, then goes on about landis, a explanation about why lance wasn't there, allegations against Lance by Landis and then about allegations against Levi by Landis.
    Do you have a link to this article, or where you read it? If you're referring to the original comment about how he realized two hours in, he didn't want to be riding, I'd venture to say that 99% of those who read that quote read it as "this was a damn hard race."

    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    I feel the cycling doesn't get a fair shake in the US because it is portrayed much like soccer is, as a European sport with shin grabbing "babies" who bail out at the most inopportune times, complain about unfair officiating or courses or just complain in general.
    It doesnt' get a fair shake in the U.S. because 1) it's boring as well to actually watch, and 2) all of the doping scandals. Combine the two, and there you go...

    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    And just as soccer it will never get a fair shake until there is less coverage on the broom wagons, less *****ing and whining about stuff and, my god please, less comments about doping when actually reporting about the sport. I mean this article was 20% Levi at leadville, 30% Lance who didn't even race then 50% doping. Plus it totally missed the local angle which I am sure that there was more than one person from Tucson at Leadville.

    So I know Levi couldn't control what the sound bite was wrapped with but that is the reason I was initially cheesed off, had he said "that was the hardest race I have ever done but also the most fun I had in race ever" or something like that even if he was lying, the average arm chair joe would have seen fun and been less inclined to think he won the race cause he doped.

    Or something like that.
    Well, can you blame the uninformed? I mean, how many former TdF and finishers have been accused, banned, and suspended for doping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    But you do the 24HITOP?

    Not sure if you realize this, but you're still belittling those who take Leadville and all the other races you mention above seriously (including Levi).

    Yea, we all get riled up. Some things are better left unsaid.
    if it was belittling it wasn't meant to be. Just my opinion I don't think I implied anything about anyone that does those. I just like to ride for free. I have done the 24hrITOP, night riding for free is less of a joy for me, the option of airlift medical support etc at night is worth a few bucks.

    I still chafe at how much a weekend at the 24hrITOP costs for me. I have tried to whittle it down to a minimum so that I can financially justify it and I am getting closer. But paying something on the magnitude of $300 for 24hrs of riding my bike 100 miles or so is tough for my personal finances to handle even when it is surrounded by my friends and a bike festival atmosphere.

    There is a reason I ride a single speed rigid bike and it isn't because I think it is necessarily cool. It is cheap. Belittling me because I can't afford to do these awesome grassroots events seems fairly judgmental on your end as well, whether I take them seriously or not I can't afford to do one of them.
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    LEADVILLE, Colo. - Levi Leipheimer didn't get the chance to race against defending champ Lance Armstrong in the Life Time Fitness Leadville Trail 100 mountain bike race Saturday.

    So, he did the next best thing - he broke Armstrong's record.

    With his RadioShack teammate Armstrong sitting this one out because of a sore hip from his crash-filled Tour de France finale, Leipheimer won the nation's highest-altitude endurance test in a lung-searing six hours, 16 minutes, 37 seconds.

    Armstrong's old mark of 6:28:50 also was bested Saturday by runner-up Jeremy "JHK" Horgan-Kobelski, of Boulder, a 2008 Olympic mountain biker who finished in 6:25:21.

    "This is ridiculously hard," Leipheimer, of Santa Rosa, Calif., said after crossing the finish line and getting a silver medal placed around his neck to go with the silver-and-gold belt buckle he'll receive today.

    There is no prize money here, just pride.

    And exhaustion.

    "It's hard to describe the pain and torture that you go through on a ride like that," Leipheimer said. "It's not what I'm used to. It's like a six-hour time trial. There's no sitting in. There's no draft. ... I just couldn't wait for it to be over."

    The race started at 10,500 feet and climbed another 2,000.

    Leipheimer was torn about wishing Armstrong had been here.

    "It would have been great to have him here because he would have been in the mix," Leipheimer said. "It would have hurt that much more, though."

    Armstrong spokesman Mark Higgins said Tuesday that the cyclist was skipping this year's "Race Across the Sky" because he's still feeling lingering effects of a hip injury suffered in a crash early in the Tour de France and wanted to spend time with his family before his children start school.

    Armstrong also has been dealing with renewed questions about drug use during his career since ex-teammate Floyd Landis made allegations against him and other riders this spring. Federal investigators have been looking at lawsuits containing old accusations against Armstrong and have reached out to question his sponsors.

    Leipheimer, who is among at least 16 people besides Armstrong whom Landis has implicated in various doping acts, declined to discuss the investigation Saturday.



    You know it is funny how I search out this particular AP thread and all the other AP threads had no mention of Landis, Doping or Cyclings negatives at all. Yet Tucson, the Outside Magazines Best City for Road Biking managed to add that and removal all the actual cycling information from the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    Belittling me because I can't afford to do these awesome grassroots events seems fairly judgmental on your end as well, whether I take them seriously or not I can't afford to do one of them.
    We all have our reasons for not wanting to do certain events (and you might be surprised to know that I actually agree with you...to a certain extent), and I'm not judging anybody for those reasons. I'm sure money is number one on that list for most.

    But I'm also not going to judge somebody for reasons they *do* those events too.

    Your comment about "paying to ride a jeep road" just came across as being critical of those who have chosen to do the race. Sorry if I misread that.

    On a sidenote, I have absolutely no idea what is involved in putting these events on, but I'd venture to say that Todd or whoever is not rolling in the money. I agree it would be hella nice if we could do an event that attracts 3,000 racers and specators, some world-class riders (and former Olympians and World Champs), a nice vending area, and a free Tecate at the end of the race for free. But that ain't ever going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    LEADVILLE, Colo. - Levi Leipheimer didn't get the chance to race against defending champ Lance Armstrong in the Life Time Fitness Leadville Trail 100 mountain bike race Saturday.

    So, he did the next best thing - he broke Armstrong's record.

    With his RadioShack teammate Armstrong sitting this one out because of a sore hip from his crash-filled Tour de France finale, Leipheimer won the nation's highest-altitude endurance test in a lung-searing six hours, 16 minutes, 37 seconds.

    Armstrong's old mark of 6:28:50 also was bested Saturday by runner-up Jeremy "JHK" Horgan-Kobelski, of Boulder, a 2008 Olympic mountain biker who finished in 6:25:21.

    "This is ridiculously hard," Leipheimer, of Santa Rosa, Calif., said after crossing the finish line and getting a silver medal placed around his neck to go with the silver-and-gold belt buckle he'll receive today.

    There is no prize money here, just pride.

    And exhaustion.

    "It's hard to describe the pain and torture that you go through on a ride like that," Leipheimer said. "It's not what I'm used to. It's like a six-hour time trial. There's no sitting in. There's no draft. ... I just couldn't wait for it to be over."

    The race started at 10,500 feet and climbed another 2,000.

    Leipheimer was torn about wishing Armstrong had been here.

    "It would have been great to have him here because he would have been in the mix," Leipheimer said. "It would have hurt that much more, though."

    Armstrong spokesman Mark Higgins said Tuesday that the cyclist was skipping this year's "Race Across the Sky" because he's still feeling lingering effects of a hip injury suffered in a crash early in the Tour de France and wanted to spend time with his family before his children start school.

    Armstrong also has been dealing with renewed questions about drug use during his career since ex-teammate Floyd Landis made allegations against him and other riders this spring. Federal investigators have been looking at lawsuits containing old accusations against Armstrong and have reached out to question his sponsors.

    Leipheimer, who is among at least 16 people besides Armstrong whom Landis has implicated in various doping acts, declined to discuss the investigation Saturday.



    You know it is funny how I search out this particular AP thread and all the other AP threads had no mention of Landis, Doping or Cyclings negatives at all. Yet Tucson, the Outside Magazines Best City for Road Biking managed to add that and removal all the actual cycling information from the article.

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    So, was it this quote you orginally took offense to?

    "It's hard to describe the pain and torture that you go through on a ride like that," Leipheimer said. "It's not what I'm used to. It's like a six-hour time trial. There's no sitting in. There's no draft. ... I just couldn't wait for it to be over."

    Just to repeat, I'd venture to say that 99% who read that read it as a tribute to the race's difficulty, not to Levi's disdain for the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    , and a free Tecate at the end of the race for free. But that ain't ever going to happen.

    Did they have free Tecate at the finish this year! Nice! I didn't get no free beer when I did it in 2008...and Coors was a sponsor that year....then again, I didn't actually finish either, so I had to buy my condolence beer myself regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    We all have our reasons for not wanting to do certain events (and you might be surprised to know that I actually agree with you...to a certain extent), and I'm not judging anybody for those reasons. I'm sure money is number one on that list for most.

    But I'm also not going to judge somebody for reasons they *do* those events too.

    Your comment about "paying to ride a jeep road" just came across as being critical of those who have chosen to do the race. Sorry if I misread that.

    On a sidenote, I have absolutely no idea what is involved in putting these events on, but I'd venture to say that Todd or whoever is not rolling in the money. I agree it would be hella nice if we could do an event that attracts 3,000 racers and specators, some world-class riders (and former Olympians and World Champs), a nice vending area, and a free Tecate at the end of the race for free. But that ain't ever going to happen.

    to be fair I am not the only person who has commented that Leadville is less of a mountain bike race than a road race akin to the old tour de france dirt roads and as I have said I have never done it particularly because it is in insanely expensive race to do.

    I riding buddy did it this year and spent something akin to $1000 to do it not including driving there and accommodations before and after. Again her priorities are different than mine.

    I appreciate what todd does and the majority of the costs for these events for me is the additional costs. Initially you think, heck $125, ride with my buddies for 24hrs, drink some beers and so forth. But then you realize you need to get a better tent, gas from propane, some new tires, fork rebuilt, drive out there, eat!, water, back up light, etc. It adds up.

    But the ability to have someone looking out for me or anyone I come across at night is worth the $125 for me. Night makes it an event I can pay the money to do. Although for the last 2 years I have tried to bail from my team and each time I ended having to fill in at the last minute anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    So, was it this quote you orginally took offense to?

    "It's hard to describe the pain and torture that you go through on a ride like that," Leipheimer said. "It's not what I'm used to. It's like a six-hour time trial. There's no sitting in. There's no draft. ... I just couldn't wait for it to be over."

    Just to repeat, I'd venture to say that 99% who read that read it as a tribute to the race's difficulty, not to Levi's disdain for the race.
    yeah like I said I was in a ****ty mood. Still am but I suspect I can get out on my bike for a mountain bike ride this weekend, maybe something even epic. I also found out how to convert my new rims to tubeless which I was having a serious amount of fail achieving so I suspect by monday I will be all bunny rabbits and puppies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling
    Did they have free Tecate at the finish this year! Nice! I didn't get no free beer when I did it in 2008...and Coors was a sponsor that year....then again, I didn't actually finish either, so I had to buy my condolence beer myself regardless

    How is Coors a reward for finishing? After suffering through such as race as I have been lead to believe that it is a sufferfest, why punish you more?

    How has fat tire not jumped in as a sponsor of this? Imagine a 1554 after finishing anything, pure victory!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    . I also found out how to convert my new rims to tubeless which I was having a serious amount of fail achieving so I suspect by monday I will be all bunny rabbits and puppies.
    Congrats!
    This will surely get anybody out of a bad mood. I know from expereince. Took me about 10 tries, but I finally did it. And look at me now, I'm evening inviting folks I don't know on rides....
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Congrats!
    This will surely get anybody out of a bad mood. I know from expereince. Took me about 10 tries, but I finally did it. And look at me now, I'm evening inviting folks I don't know on rides....
    Yeah in the interest of dollars I tend to end up with rims that are less than easy to covert to tubeless. First it was the WTB laserdisc trail 29er with the stupid trench in the middle. I finally got it converted and rode them until a rock popped off the lead riders tire and I hit it full speed. Did I mention it was human head size? Yeah so I pretty much destroyed the wheel.

    I then pickup up the new Sun MTX33 29er FR rim for my next build. Built them up nice and tight but could not for the life of me get the ghetto tubeless to seal up completely. Tried all the varieties except the split tube.

    As they are relatively new to market there hasn't been much activity on the forums regarding conversion but now some people are posting up success with the yellow tape and I am realizing that perhaps I was using too much tape to seal them up. So I am going to give it another go with just a thin later of tape. Otherwise Stans say their FR strips will work but they have no experience with the rims.

    Was getting tired of carrying 2 tubes and getting flats every other ride. Had gone for months and months without a technical prior to the new rims. Which are killer in every other way except the tubeless way. Now it looks like I might be back on old reliable again.

    phew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling
    Did they have free Tecate at the finish this year! Nice! I didn't get no free beer when I did it in 2008...and Coors was a sponsor that year....then again, I didn't actually finish either, so I had to buy my condolence beer myself regardless
    At the end of the 24HIOP, there was a guy near the transition tent hading out Tecates.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    I appreciate what todd does and the majority of the costs for these events for me is the additional costs. Initially you think, heck $125, ride with my buddies for 24hrs, drink some beers and so forth. But then you realize you need to get a better tent, gas from propane, some new tires, fork rebuilt, drive out there, eat!, water, back up light, etc. It adds up.
    About 6 years ago, we camped in the heart of the camping area. Woke up race a.m., and there was this dude sleeping in a ratty old sleep bag, and had no previsions. Just his beater bike (SS POS) and a makeshift trailer. He wasn't there the night before, so I asked when he got in. He said he left Green Valley at 4 p.m., and got in around midnight. He was racing solo, and had a homemade light. I'd venture to say he spent maybe $10 more than the entry fee, and I bet the dude had a great time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    Yeah in the interest of dollars I tend to end up with rims that are less than easy to covert to tubeless. First it was the WTB laserdisc trail 29er with the stupid trench in the middle. I finally got it converted and rode them until a rock popped off the lead riders tire and I hit it full speed. Did I mention it was human head size? Yeah so I pretty much destroyed the wheel.

    I then pickup up the new Sun MTX33 29er FR rim for my next build. Built them up nice and tight but could not for the life of me get the ghetto tubeless to seal up completely. Tried all the varieties except the split tube.

    As they are relatively new to market there hasn't been much activity on the forums regarding conversion but now some people are posting up success with the yellow tape and I am realizing that perhaps I was using too much tape to seal them up. So I am going to give it another go with just a thin later of tape. Otherwise Stans say their FR strips will work but they have no experience with the rims.

    Was getting tired of carrying 2 tubes and getting flats every other ride. Had gone for months and months without a technical prior to the new rims. Which are killer in every other way except the tubeless way. Now it looks like I might be back on old reliable again.

    phew.
    LOL, my first pair I converted were LaserDisc. PITA is an understatement, and heavy as hell. I found a used pair of Easton SS wheels, which were a friggin breeze to convert, and have held up through the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    About 6 years ago, we camped in the heart of the camping area. Woke up race a.m., and there was this dude sleeping in a ratty old sleep bag, and had no previsions. Just his beater bike (SS POS) and a makeshift trailer. He wasn't there the night before, so I asked when he got in. He said he left Green Valley at 4 p.m., and got in around midnight. He was racing solo, and had a homemade light. I'd venture to say he spent maybe $10 more than the entry fee, and I bet the dude had a great time.

    That has always been a goal. I would love to load up my old trailer ride out, race and ride home with just my provisions and a tent. Each year I have brought less and enjoyed it more. Although I did it with gears last year and it wasn't as enjoyable as the previous times for me. SS is the way to go out there IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    That has always been a goal. I would love to load up my old trailer ride out, race and ride home with just my provisions and a tent. Each year I have brought less and enjoyed it more. Although I did it with gears last year and it wasn't as enjoyable as the previous times for me. SS is the way to go out there IMO.
    I'd love to be the guys who go out a week early and just camp the entire time.

    I'll fess up and admit I made a couple new purchases for next year: a 7-person tent (and I'm doing solo), and a second Magicshine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    How is Coors a reward for finishing? After suffering through such as race as I have been lead to believe that it is a sufferfest, why punish you more?

    How has fat tire not jumped in as a sponsor of this? Imagine a 1554 after finishing anything, pure victory!
    It was Sierra Nevada this year, and it was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcadbiker
    It was Sierra Nevada this year, and it was good.

    That seems much more apropos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    At the end of the 24HIOP, there was a guy near the transition tent hading out Tecates.

    Saw him...but my wife stuck a big old bottle of Chimay Red in my hand first!! Love that woman!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling
    Saw him...but my wife stuck a big old bottle of Chimay Red in my hand first!! Love that woman!!!
    I was finishing my 8th lap, had no idea what it was he gave me, and dumbass me tried to ride while drinking. Needless to say, I smelled like a (Mexican) brewery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    I was finishing my 8th lap, had no idea what it was he gave me, and dumbass me tried to ride while drinking. Needless to say, I smelled like a brewery.
    Who are you kidding!? You ALWAYS smell like a brewery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoplea
    Who are you kidding!? You ALWAYS smell like a brewery.
    I fixed it...
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    I didn't get any of what you found from the article except the disgust on how the reporter just had to angle the doping scandal in there. That steamed me a little too. Probably explains why I don't read the paper, never watch the news-local or otherwise and choose the sources of my news very carefully. I actually watch John Stewart for my news fix! And to show just how out of touch I am, I just heard about the prison break two days ago. Ask me how fast Ben Spies went in the Czech GP this past weekend and I could tell you which lap it was.

    BTW- my ghetto tubless on my Bonti Mustangs went first try with three brands of non UST tire. A great wheel that I really beat on and have had no issues. Not the case with some other wheels. Get that ride in and turn the blahs into WOOT's!
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