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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

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    Optimus Ti...SS-specific.

    Finally decided to replace my SIR9...got tired of the creaking, slipping EBB (Gen 2).

    More to follow...


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    Awesome! I just met Tom today on a ride. Seems like a great guy and a great product. Enjoy and looking forward to seeing the finished product!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomvader View Post
    Awesome! I just met Tom today on a ride. Seems like a great guy and a great product. Enjoy and looking forward to seeing the finished product!
    He really is, and I'm thrilled to support a local business and these great bikes. And I'm STOKED for my Optimus Ti!!


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    Hi Walt,
    I've ridden some with CSTEM, he's high on em as well. Good looking frame, whats the build?

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    Very nice....are you going to keep it naked?

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    looks like a welder's shop to me. when and what color?

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    I don't think they come painted and it would be a sin to do so. they look perfect as is.
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    Nice looking frame Walt. I won a Jabber on one of the night rides a few years back and Tom helped me get the right size frame. Very cool guy. I'm thinking seriously about building up a Fisticuff when available.

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    Looks good Walt. I talked to Tom at Swiss the other night. He was picking up the Optimus they had in stock. He had sold a few over the weekend and they were short on stock. I really like the lines on those frames.

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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Keeping it nekkid...!


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    wait, is that custom specs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    wait, is that custom specs ?
    No; Vassago Optimus Ti Medium specs...
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    Make sure you clear it before they erase the sharpie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz View Post
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    Optimus Ti...SS-specific.

    Finally decided to replace my SIR9...got tired of the creaking, slipping EBB (Gen 2).

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    Congrats on the new ride.

    That said, I found the trick to the slipping Niner EBB: Carbo Grip and proper torque (16nm). I've had zero issue with slippage since then. That said, I will likely use that as an excuse when looking to upgrade my bike too .
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    I found the trick to the slipping Niner EBB
    Jeff, I found a trick too, sticking to frames with sliders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyharris View Post
    Jeff, I found a trick too, sticking to frames with sliders.
    Well, I know somebody with a Vassago, and he had issues with the rear wheel slipping. I'm not sure if he finally addressed it.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Oh Boy!!!

    Picked it up yesterday from Tom!!
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    Love the look!
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    More like a piece of fine art! Very nice! Ride it in good health, Walt!!
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    Friggin' sweet! Get a weight on that baby before ya add parts...
    Those black ano paragon sliders are nice!
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    Sweet dude! Keep Nixon nearby so you can blame all the drooling on him. You planning to race it at Enchanted Forest?

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    Get'r built up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevland View Post
    Sweet dude! Keep Nixon nearby so you can blame all the drooling on him. You planning to race it at Enchanted Forest?
    We can't go...Deanna's daughter is getting married THAT DAY!! And after we were all entered, booked, and stoked...:-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    Friggin' sweet! Get a weight on that baby before ya add parts...
    Those black ano paragon sliders are nice!
    Ray, it's already got the seatpost clamp and headset in, but spec on the frame, including the dropout hardware, is 3.9 lbs.
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    Looking good Walt, can't wait to see it in person all tricked out!
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    Bootyfull! Ooooh...I wanna ride my Jabber now!

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    Coyotekiss has a daughter old enough to get married...wow! Nice Vassago...!

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    I'm so jealous, I've been thinking of getting one or the Carbon Air 9. I just can't decide but the Vassago looks so nice. I don't have the money for either one right now so I'll just have to hear story's of your rides.
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    Nice looking frame Walt.

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    Would it be alright if I came over and made sweet love to that frame. What a piece of art.

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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Well, I know somebody with a Vassago, and he had issues with the rear wheel slipping. I'm not sure if he finally addressed it.
    The fix for that is Shimano or crank bros skewer. Their design locks tighter.


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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Sweet ride Walt!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    I'm so jealous, I've been thinking of getting one or the Carbon Air 9. I just can't decide but the Vassago looks so nice. I don't have the money for either one right now so I'll just have to hear story's of your rides.
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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Can't wait to see it when it's built. Medium frame right? I'll bring a pedal wrench ;-)

    I think if I build another SS, I'd go with Ti. Really like the 142 rear option on the Optimus.

    I had horizontal drops on my Jabber and used a bolt on SS spec hub with zero slip issues.

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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Taco- I'll let you try my Jabber but I run my brakes Moto style- so you gotta be careful!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram-On View Post
    Coyotekiss has a daughter old enough to get married...wow! Nice Vassago...!
    Ha!! 1) love the coyote "kiss". Kis is just abbreviated from kismet, but I like your version a whole lot better! :-)

    2) For the comment, you are my new best friend, and the check is in the mail! ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ram-on View Post
    coyotekiss has a daughter old enough to get married...wow! Nice vassago...!
    lol...
    Better than most, not as good as some.

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    Walt that's a sweet looking frame! And those Paragon sliders are awesome. My Bianchi has the BMX-style horizontal sliders, which are fine...but my next SS will definitely have Paragons.

    BTW - if you want to avoid any chance of wheel slippage, go with bolts instead of skewers for the rear wheel. Many hubs offer conversions (Hope, Easton).


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    Quote Originally Posted by cstem View Post
    Taco- I'll let you try my Jabber but I run my brakes Moto style- so you gotta be careful!


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    Thanks but I have a Jabber too, I just want to try titanium, besides Tom said the new bikes have a different geometry. I do like the Jabber though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis View Post
    Ha!! 1) love the coyote "kiss". Kis is just abbreviated from kismet, but I like your version a whole lot better! :-)

    2) For the comment, you are my new best friend, and the check is in the mail! ;-)
    Oh yeah, kismet" ...I forgot! Congratulaion!

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    Sweet bike Walt!!

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    Come one Walt, whats the ride like. Updates, tell the tale of the Ti SS.
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    Is this thing even built yet?

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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    You guys are tough!!

    Got a couple rides in last weekend...been out of town on business and slammed!

    GREAT ride!! More report and pics to follow!


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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    OK, here are some initial perceptions:
    - It's LIGHT!! The build is 24 lbs...my previous build on the Niner SIR9, with the same components, was 26+. I really notice this while climbing...I can get on top of the pedals better while seated, and feel that I have greater power transfer while standing.
    - Steering is noticeably quicker than the Niner.
    - Probably the biggest thing I've noticed is how it rides while descending rockier terrain at speed (think Cardiac in the McD's, or Coachwhip/Dixie Mine going CCW back towards Pemb). It feels really stable, feels like you can carry your speed really well. This may sound contradictory, but after years of riding steel HT SS', the OptimusTi feels "stiffer", like aluminum, yet more "compliant" than steel. And I ride all these trails a lot, with lots of both steel and aluminum miles (my geared HT is a Spesh Stumpjumper), so I've got a lot of saddle time to compare against.

    Anyway, here are a few pics...one goober pic (of me) when it was clean, before it's first ride, then a few from today's ride...already dirty and HEED-streaked!
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    Dig it Walt! Luv the White-Fox up-front.

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    Hey Walt, guess what I've been riding?
    I was able test ride a Optimusti demo bike, I only have it for two days, I road it Saturday night and going again tonight. It's set up geared so I had trouble getting used to that but it felt great.
    I have one question, I think I see you have the rear through axle, do you find it a better ride in terms of worth buying it and then having to purchase new wheels to fit it or just stick with what you have because you already have it and it's good enough? I am on the fence weather to change over or not, it will add a whole new expense.
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    Vassago awesomeness being born...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    Hey Walt, guess what I've been riding?
    I was able test ride a Optimusti demo bike, I only have it for two days, I road it Saturday night and going again tonight. It's set up geared so I had trouble getting used to that but it felt great.
    I have one question, I think I see you have the rear through axle, do you find it a better ride in terms of worth buying it and then having to purchase new wheels to fit it or just stick with what you have because you already have it and it's good enough? I am on the fence weather to change over or not, it will add a whole new expense.
    Hey Guy...first of all, just find the gearing that matches your SS gear-inches, and leave it there. That should allow you to "singlespeed it".

    I have a bolt-on rear hub (Hope Pro 2, SS-specific), that I've run for years. I greatly prefer it over a QR skewer for the stiffness. That said, I wanted to go with a 12x142 DT Swiss ratcheting axel for the rear on the Optimus because I really like that system, and it's plenty stuff enough, but I would have had to get a new hub and rebuild the wheel because Hope does not have a conversion for the SS-specific hub.

    So I'd say, if you're happy with what you have now, just go with that to save the $$. If you've got the budget for it, I'd do the 12x142 DT Swiss. Keep me posted!!


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    Ti bikes have a timeless look to me. Still trying to figure out how it is that I have a Ti road bike I rarely ride...
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    I saw a couple Vassago's today on South Mountain, 2 SS's riding together. Those are really nice looking bikes.
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    Well Walt, your not alone anymore. I dug deep and purchased the bike, I've been working like crazy with OT so I haven't been able to ride it as much as I would like. It is so Friggin sweet, I never knew how nice Ti was to ride. It's going to be a blast at Grand Junction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    Well Walt, your not alone anymore. I dug deep and purchased the bike, I've been working like crazy with OT so I haven't been able to ride it as much as I would like. It is so Friggin sweet, I never knew how nice Ti was to ride. It's going to be a blast at Grand Junction.
    Yippee Kai ay!!! Post up some pics!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    Well Walt, your not alone anymore. I dug deep and purchased the bike, I've been working like crazy with OT so I haven't been able to ride it as much as I would like. It is so Friggin sweet, I never knew how nice Ti was to ride. It's going to be a blast at Grand Junction.
    Congrats on your new addition Guy. I am stoked for you! Soon I will be ready to shred with you-I am steadily gaining some fitness, and the last bits I'll fake with my willingness to suffer on your wheel! I look forward to riding in your tracks once again buddy!
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