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    Survival Tips. What U packing?

    I saw these two postings on a Thread I started and thought we could all share our "Survival Tips."

    Post 'em if you have 'em.
    ~azm

    I carry extra zip ties, and I have Knotted a tube with a hole because no one was around to help.
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    For Arizona:
    Water
    tube
    patch kit
    advil
    water
    TP
    knife
    water
    Cliff bars, or tortillas and beef jerky
    Hemostats for pulling out cactus needles
    a raincoat during monsoon season
    Phone
    GPS (which is now my phone too)
    Sunglasses
    sunscreen

    Colorado:
    All the above, plus enough variety of outwear to deal with rain, snow, burning heat, and freezing cold, all in the same ride.

    I have a big pack.

    Edit: Oh yeah, I carry some zip ties too, and a multitool. I have heard that a little duct tape is good to have, but don't do that, yet.
    Edit 2: Forgot about my pump. I used to carry a tire pump and a shock pump, but never really need shock adjustments on the trail. So now I keep the shock pump in the back of my car for preride adjusting only.
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    ^^Kudos^^ I see a couple of things I am going to add...

    What is with all the TP talkers?

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    I do like the TP in the seatpost idea - not sure on the $20 though - I'd hate to have to keep raiding the bikes when I need some cash.

    My favorite is the little single use packets (the ones that are typically in a work/job medical box) of antibiotic cream. The one time I had gotten rashed there was enough cream to "clean" the area, and then leave a nice protective layer on to keep the bleeding down.
    Yes, I'm the crazy christmas guy!

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    I will add some of the things I don't see above.

    Matchstick heads (for bugs)
    Gorilla Tape
    Lots of TP
    She Wee
    Presta/Shraeder adapter
    Quick link
    Bandana (used for many things, like running out of TP)

    Brenda

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    Oh yeah, forgot about the quick link. Good one.
    What's She Wee?

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    I've been collecting things more and more this is what I have been carrying lately, mainly learning from the "dohs" on the trail. I have been able to fit these comfortably in my Mule...

    Gorilla Tape
    Zip Ties
    Patch kit
    Extra Tube
    Extra Der. hanger
    2 Tire Irons
    Quick link
    Park tool with chain breaker
    Extra allens
    Stubby phillips (for adjusting der)
    1 Long Der cable
    Leatherman
    Bike pump
    Presta adapter (for the presta users that need to use my pump)
    Cliff bar(s)
    Travel kit baby wipes (can work for TP, cleaning hands/ bike)
    Lighter

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    Oh yeah, I have a der hanger and leatherman too!

    Mr. Steve, you won't need a She Wee cuz yours is built in!
    It is a device that allows women to "go" without dropping trou.


    EDIT to add extra bottle of home brew....non alcoholic.
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    I'll add a couple items to the list:

    I wrapped a bunch of duct tape around my tire pump.
    Comb for cactus
    Small first aid kit
    Small flash light

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    Learned from Cenobite...I now carry something called a "boot"...a couple of them. Cut out piece of plastic milk jug the size of a baseball card for tubeless tears. Put on inside of ripped tire and then put in a tube - enough to get you home.

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    Glad I'm getting yet another new pack. Adding to Kubo's list...
    Schrader Valve Tube
    Presta Tube.
    First Aid Kit- check out adventure medical- great company ultra compact and light
    Latex Gloves
    Shot blocks, Sharkies, EmergenC
    Old Tee Shirt- cleanup, sling, tourniquet, ect
    UNIVERSAL Derailleur hanger
    Asprin- good for heart issues as well as pain
    Extra 20oz+ water- mainly for tourons but have used myself after I drained my bladder
    Dog Deuce bags- the little bags to pick up dog sh*t also are great little trash bags and are awesome to get the blown, slimed tube back without trashing your pack and are free at most trailheads!
    The secret to mountain biking is pretty simple. The slower you go the more likely it is you’ll crash.
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    nevermind... I forgot its summer and people don't have a sense of humor
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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Glad I'm getting yet another new pack. Adding to Kubo's list...
    Schrader Valve Tube
    Presta Tube.
    First Aid Kit- check out adventure medical- great company ultra compact and light
    Latex Gloves
    Shot blocks, Sharkies, EmergenC
    Old Tee Shirt- cleanup, sling, tourniquet, ect
    UNIVERSAL Derailleur hanger
    Asprin- good for heart issues as well as pain
    Extra 20oz+ water- mainly for tourons but have used myself after I drained my bladder
    Dog Deuce bags- the little bags to pick up dog sh*t also are great little trash bags and are awesome to get the blown, slimed tube back without trashing your pack and are free at most trailheads!
    I forgot about the first aid kit. That could come in handy with my riding style

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    i've been carrying a very small.22 cal with me. Its invaluable for protecting against MTBR summer doldrums.

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    Tea and Crumpets

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    This is is what I carry in my pack from 20+ years of riding in the southwest. I have it packed all into a small stuff sack that can be easily transferred to different size packs depending on the length and location of of trail and season.



    Quote Originally Posted by AzMntBkr1 View Post
    I saw these two postings on a Thread I started and thought we could all share our "Survival Tips."

    Post 'em if you have 'em.
    ~azm

    I carry extra zip ties, and I have Knotted a tube with a hole because no one was around to help.
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    Toilet paper stashed in a zip lock bag.

    Duct tape.

    Tube and basic tools.

    Rain gear or warm long sleeved layer.

    Cell phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicrider View Post
    This is is what I carry in my pack from 20+ years of riding in the southwest. I have it packed all into a small stuff sack that can be easily transferred to different size packs depending on the length and location of of trail and season.
    All that AND a computer mouse! You got it ALL!!!..........D

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    i carry a couple random tools, extra tube, co2 canister, small first aid kit, phone/gps, clif bars, a multi tool, PARACORD!!!!!! (550lb rated) and water sunglasses, bandana...everything fits in my camelback
    ...Dying is the easy part, its living that's the challenge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicrider View Post
    This is is what I carry in my pack from 20+ years of riding in the southwest. I have it packed all into a small stuff sack that can be easily transferred to different size packs depending on the length and location of of trail and season.
    ...and a computer mouse?!?! WTF!?
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    LOL... I was wondering if anyone was going to notice the micro mouse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    All that AND a computer mouse! You got it ALL!!!..........D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicrider View Post
    This is is what I carry in my pack from 20+ years of riding in the southwest.
    Hey Epic, did you ever think of strapping one of these onto the back of your bike?
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    I just carry Barry with me He brings EVERYTHING!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    I just carry Barry with me He brings EVERYTHING!!!
    He is ready for a zombie attack. Literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMntBkr1 View Post
    ^^Kudos^^ I see a couple of things I am going to add...

    What is with all the TP talkers?
    Have you ever looked around for something to wipe with, and all you can see is cholla, prickly pear, saguaro, agave, mesquite, and catspaw? Thats when you wind up riding home with no socks...and put tp in your pack when you get home.
    The secret to mountain biking is pretty simple. The slower you go the more likely it is you’ll crash.
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    Baby wipes man! BABY WIPES! just put some in a zip lock bag and theyll stay wet forverish

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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Have you ever looked around for something to wipe with, and all you can see is cholla, prickly pear, saguaro, agave, mesquite, and catspaw? Thats when you wind up riding home with no socks...and put tp in your pack when you get home.

    Uh, no. I usually crap in the a.m. So I am pretty up par with my regularity.
    Eat oatmeal in the mornings... Daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMntBkr1 View Post
    Uh, no. I usually crap in the a.m. So I am pretty up par with my regularity.
    Eat oatmeal in the mornings... Daily.
    My regularity is very irregular IBS and a hobby involving a lot of time outdoors is not always ideal. You guys take way more than I ever do on my rides...

    Spare tube
    park tool
    hand pump
    water
    cliff bars/granola bars
    Mini first aid kit

    Outside of my water pack, I think that's it....I do dig the baby wipes in ziploc baggie idea though. Will definitely be adding that to my list. I have yet had to poo so bad I had to go on the trail though....

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    I like to travel light. patch kit, tire levers, granola bar, snakebite kit( ive seen 3 rattlers already this year),multi tool, shock/tire pump combo, and thats all. I run tubeless so i dont ever worry too much about flats or needing to carry a tube!

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    No snakebite kit

    Quote Originally Posted by dhmental View Post
    I like to travel light. patch kit, tire levers, granola bar, snakebite kit( ive seen 3 rattlers already this year),multi tool, shock/tire pump combo, and thats all. I run tubeless so i dont ever worry too much about flats or needing to carry a tube!
    Im not sure what snakebite kit you or anyone is using but I'm assuming it has a suction cup, restricting device and a scalpel.
    Here's what the local paramedics do for snakebites:
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    Interpretation: NOTHING. Get to the hospital fast and keep involved extremety immobilized and at heart level.
    Constricting the involved site will only make the situation worse.

    My attempt at snakebite prevention (not tested) is the 661 vegiskin shin guards.

    Here's what I bring in my Camelback MULE
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    SAM splint, triangle bandage, various sized bandages, space blanket, trauma shears.
    Also all tools that may be needed for bike repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imsorrywhat View Post
    Im not sure what snakebite kit you or anyone is using but I'm assuming it has a suction cup, restricting device and a scalpel.
    Here's what the local paramedics do for snakebites:
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    Interpretation: NOTHING. Get to the hospital fast and keep involved extremety immobilized and at heart level.
    Constricting the involved site will only make the situation worse.

    My attempt at snakebite prevention (not tested) is the 661 vegiskin shin guards.

    Here's what I bring in my Camelback MULE
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    SAM splint, triangle bandage, various sized bandages, space blanket, trauma shears.
    Also all tools that may be needed for bike repair.


    Here is what I want to know? You're alone. Let's say 4-8 miles from your vehicle. No phone. You're bit...

    What the hell do you do? How do you get out?

    And what kits are being used?
    Thanks,
    azm

    We had a small rattler on our back patio two nights ago. Scared the **** out of me...

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    Yep, basic kit, scalpel, iodide, string, instructions, and suction cups


    Using it would be a last resort if I was stranded in the middle of nowhere. According to the instructions it says get to a hospital if you can and don't move too much. If not use the scalpel to cut the bite holes and use the suction cups to suck out the venom. Use the tourniquet to slow the venom from reaching the heart. The venom travels through your lymph system apparently. It also says that chances of dying are 1% if you use the kit.

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    I think you'd be better off ditching the snake bite kit and replacing it with a tube. Even if you are running tubeless, you will be glad you have a tube one day. And even if you have seen 3 snakes recently, your chances of getting bit are very low.

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    I'll use my tube an a stick to make a tourniquet.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMntBkr1 View Post
    Here is what I want to know? You're alone. Let's say 4-8 miles from your vehicle. No phone. You're bit...

    What the hell do you do? How do you get out?

    And what kits are being used?
    Thanks,
    azm

    We had a small rattler on our back patio two nights ago. Scared the **** out of me...
    I suggest bring your phone.. Wait for helicopter
    No kits are suggested. Especially NO tourniquets.
    Only thing that has shown slight improvements in overall outcome is immediate high powered suction (nothing that could fit in a kit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    I just carry Barry with me He brings EVERYTHING!!!
    I'd sure be less tired if you did carry me around more.

    Quote Originally Posted by _dragon View Post
    He is ready for a zombie attack. Literally.
    Zombies are super grumpy in Arizona!


    Before the last ride I took everything out of my pack in order to try and divest of some items. Couldn't do it. Everything in their I have either used, someone else has used, or I know will be used at some point in the not distant future.

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    The point being made here I think, at least one of them, is that it is better to do NOTHING if bitten by a snake, just do EVERYTHING you can to get help asap. That is why a cell phone/tracking device is important. If you have no service, do everything to get somewhere that there is service. That might not be fun with venom in your system, but it might save your life. Don't bother wasting time trying to suck, tighten, cut or otherwise... ain't worth the time and effort.
    Prevention is always better: don't mess with Mr Snake, and do be aware of where you are sitting/standing/falling... have a little look around before doing any of them...

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    Of course, with Tea and Crumpets on board, none of the above applies...

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    i was always taught that once you make the decision to apply a tourniquet to a limb, that you've pretty much made a decision to authorize amputation below it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    i was always taught that once you make the decision to apply a tourniquet to a limb, that you've pretty much made a decision to authorize amputation below it.
    Give or take you have about 3 hours after application before the limb is completely lost.
    The problem is, if the tourniquet is released (accidentally loosened) without medications, the acidotic blood (due to lack of oxygen) in limb will release to central circulation and will cause heart disrhythmias that may kill you.

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    What shocks me most is not one person has mentioned the MOST important item one can carry...

    A flask with your fav liquor!

    I do enjoy a good swig of tequila before a fun descent.

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    I just checked my pack to see what I carry. Extra link but no chain tool. Tire lever and CO2 kit, but no tube. Allen wrench for my front fork. So my kit is useless. Now I have something to do today. Thanks for all the ideas.

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    Bloody Mary mix comes in handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    The point being made here I think, at least one of them, is that it is better to do NOTHING if bitten by a snake, just do EVERYTHING you can to get help asap. That is why a cell phone/tracking device is important. If you have no service, do everything to get somewhere that there is service. That might not be fun with venom in your system, but it might save your life. Don't bother wasting time trying to suck, tighten, cut or otherwise... ain't worth the time and effort.
    Prevention is always better: don't mess with Mr Snake, and do be aware of where you are sitting/standing/falling... have a little look around before doing any of them...
    Old cowboy once told me that if you get bit, stay calm. Yeah, thanks. Good luck on that.
    This is where spot, or a similar unit can come in handy if you don't have cell reception. I don't own one, but probably wouldn't hurt. Also, a good reason to ride with others, not go out alone.

    Ironically, most snake bites occur in the evening on males between 20 and 35 years old and alcohol is involved. Only 10% of snake bites will be fatal, the other 90% of the victims wish they were dead.
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    Heres my survival kit....



    Wait we arent talking about the zombie apocalypse are we???

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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Old cowboy once told me that if you get bit, stay calm. Yeah, thanks. Good luck on that.
    This is where spot, or a similar unit can come in handy if you don't have cell reception. I don't own one, but probably wouldn't hurt. Also, a good reason to ride with others, not go out alone.

    Ironically, most snake bites occur in the evening on males between 20 and 35 years old and alcohol is involved. Only 10% of snake bites will be fatal, the other 90% of the victims wish they were dead.
    I usually carry a Spot if I am going out alone, but a lot of the time in canyons you don't get very good signals. Since I like to try and stay high, this is not too much of a problem... my other half can go online and see where I'm at if there's a problem, or I can hit the 911 panic button, or if there is no signal, there usually was a signal sent not too long before so the search area is narrowed considerably.
    As for staying calm, f**k that! I was told that applying a tourniquet just localises the bad stuff causing more damage at the bite area, when there is a good chance that allowing it to pass into the bloodstream more will minimise the effects. Not sure how true this is, but a friend of mine got bitten up in the Tortolitas once, quite a few miles from anywhere, and said he just got the hell out of there as fast as he could to get treatment. He also said it was not a good experience... but he is alive and complete, and a little more careful where he goes to sit down now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I'll use my tube an a stick to make a tourniquet.
    Or use it to make a slingshot if you need to kill a critter for your dinner.

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    That will effectively erase a zombie infestation fo sho!

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    May sound like overkill... But if you can fit a pair of hiking/walking shoes in your pack, do it. It sucks when you have a 6 mile walk in a pair of biking shoes.
    Keep pedalin'. You can catch your breath on the downhill!

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