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    Sunrise this weekend, Clipless or Flats?

    Any suggestions? Going to head up and hit sunrise this Saturday. Last time I rode sunrise I did so in flats and handled most of it fine (about a year ago). Since then my skill level has improved and I pretty much ride everything clipless now. Ridden geronimo once and national a bunch of times and feel comfortable enough clipped in.

    I'd bring both, but i'm going to be dropped off by my wife and don't want to carry a set of flats/shoes as well as my normal setup. If they have lockers for rent this would probably solve the problem.

    However, how do you guys ride when you hit up places like sunrise?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Tough call, I used to ride clips all the time including all the dh on south and bootleg but if it gets muddy and squirrely up there I'd want to be in flats.
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    I run Clips on everything except the Unicycle ( Don't think that would work out too well )

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    I've used clips there forever.

    They do however have the coin lockers in the lodge if you want to bring a backup.
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    Flats all the way!

    (clipless pedals provide no real value )

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    Clips.

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    If you're used to running clipless, stick with them. I wouldn't want to try riding there with a different setup than my normal gear. I prefer flats but that's just a personal preference.
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    I had never ridden on flats before, but my last trip to Sunrise also my first, I decided to try flats due to that type of riding. I have never had a problem getting out of my clipless peddles but trying to get clipped back in while being bounced around or after stopping to check out a line while at Sunrise. I knew it was time to try flats. I also plan to hit up Sunrise this Saturday. I've had a few good rides now on the flats and so far the only down side is when I go air born I feel that my bike is not attached. Probably cause it's not. I plan to adapt to that though.
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    i dont know who in their right mind would run clips if your actually doing sticks and stones etc. take a face plant or go over the bars off a drop into some trees and have your legs stuck ? you need to be able to bail if your doing it right, just my opinion if your riding actual trails.
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    i dont know who in their right mind would run clips if your actually doing sticks and stones etc.......
    you need to be able to bail if your doing it right, just my opinion if your riding actual trails.
    The thing is though lots of folks ride everything clipped in and can bail just fine. Maybe not the kind of bail where you push off the bike while 6 feet in the air and land on your feet, but I doubt OP is expecting to ride like that.

    I've ridden up there only a couple of times and the second time I took flats. It worked out pretty good even though I suck on flats. With little to no climbing it's sorta nice to be able to dab, but still, if you are super comfortable on clipless and not so comfy with flats I'd stick with what you know. Big changes on new terrain always seem to lead to feeling out of place on the trail for me.

    I vote for bringing the flats. Put them in the locker. Make a first run or two clipless, then swap. You'll know pretty quickly what to do next...and you'll know what to bring next time.

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    sure hope OP is wearing body armor and full face then
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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
    sure hope OP is wearing body armor and full face then
    I wasn't, and had a great time.

    Not everyone hucks 20 foot gaps and 6 ft drops to tranny like you. You sound young. I really don't mean this in a derogatory way, it just seems that your one sided opinion means you haven't experienced the other side of it. Many pro d/h'r ride clipless, don't they? I still say to the OP, ride what you are most comfortable in, but give flats a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride
    The thing is though lots of folks ride everything clipped in and can bail just fine. +1

    .. if you are super comfortable on clipless and not so comfy with flats I'd stick with what you know. +1

    I vote for bringing the flats. Put them in the locker. Make a first run or two clipless, then swap. You'll know pretty quickly what to do next...and you'll know what to bring next time. +1
    I personally like being clipped in when catching air, or in very rough terrain at high speed.
    I use the old school DX pedals. Enough platform to grab the pedal with the shoe to get clipped in, or at least ride it out. I set my retention kinda loose so it just takes a twitch of the ankle (developed over many years) to unclip.*

    *disclaimer unclipping has been found to occur approximately 99.9958% of the time for me. The other .0042% of the time can be painful or embarrassing, or both.
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    I personally like being clipped in when catching air, or in very rough terrain at high speed.
    I'm the same way. I have tried to go back to flats but I'm instantly reminded of how nice it is to be attached to the bike in high speed stutter and chunk....and my feet tend to come off the pedals in the air with flats. Like I said, I suck at riding flats so to each his own.

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    To each his own. No offense taken. On my rig I cannot even slightly move my feet if I wanted to under speed or drops. Probably the shoe / pedal combo and its Probably the same feeling u get from clips so I get it.
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    i'm no expert rider but have ridden sunrise multiple times with a HT and flats with no issues

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    [QUOTE=airmiller44Probably the shoe / pedal combo.... [/QUOTE]

    That's what I hear nowadays.
    I'll have to try that when I have some cash to blow on some quality shoes and pedals.
    What are those 5tens going for?
    And how much for a good set of pedals?

    I guess last time I really tried platforms was last century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBusJames
    That's what I hear nowadays.
    I'll have to try that when I have some cash to blow on some quality shoes and pedals.
    What are those 5tens going for?
    And how much for a good set of pedals?

    I guess last time I really tried platforms was last century.
    shopping on sale i got a set of 5.10 Remys for $55 and azonic 420 pedals for $75. I dont use em often, but ive been very pleased for jumps or when i will be off the bike a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
    To each his own. No offense taken. On my rig I cannot even slightly move my feet if I wanted to under speed or drops. Probably the shoe / pedal combo and its Probably the same feeling u get from clips so I get it.
    I don't believe it's just the shoes. Riding flats is a skill that is learned. It must be. Especially in the air. I wish I had that skill.

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    Wow. Didn't think this thread would generate this much enthusiasm. I think i'll go the locker route and try clips first and back down to the flats if i need it.

    And yes, i'll have some good protection on: Full face, 661 Compression Suit, Race Face Rally FR leg/shin. I'm not really worried about OTB and being connected to the bike, all the times i've gone otb on national or an equivalent trail i've managed alright.

    As far as sticks and stones, i don't remember there being more than about a 2-3' drop anywhere on that trail last time i rode it (at least the lines i took)- something i wouldn't think twice about on national.

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    James; 5.10's will make almost any pedal feel good
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    Quote Originally Posted by cramey

    surfndav: I'll be on an orange nomad with my buddy on a black vp free. say hi!
    Cool, I'll look for you.

    About the 5.10's I got mine at Cactus their not cheep $110 I think. I also bought a pair of Black Ops Toqulite peddles at the same time not cheep either, $100 I think. http://www.amazon.com/Black-Ops-Torq.../dp/B003COCZCC You can save a 20 here, I really like these peddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
    i dont know who in their right mind would run clips if your actually doing sticks and stones etc. take a face plant or go over the bars off a drop into some trees and have your legs stuck ? you need to be able to bail if your doing it right, just my opinion if your riding actual trails.
    For what its worth Im always amazed at how fast Im able to clip out of my pedals without thinking about it. Its like instinct now I guess. Ive literally stuffed the front wheel before and somehow managed to unclip and jump off the bike landing on my feet in front of my now twisted bike laying on the trail. To be honest I have no idea how I did it. It happened so fast.
    It all comes down to what you are comfortable with I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
    i dont know who in their right mind would run clips if your actually doing sticks and stones etc. take a face plant or go over the bars off a drop into some trees and have your legs stuck ? you need to be able to bail if your doing it right, just my opinion if your riding actual trails.
    you do realize that more than half of the top ten world cup racers are on clips right? if you're doing it right, you'll do whatever is comfortable. please, move to california, buy a leatt and a 951, then you can hang with other flat pedal fan boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    you do realize that more than half of the top ten world cup racers are on clips right? if you're doing it right, you'll do whatever is comfortable. please, move to california, buy a leatt and a 951, then you can hang with other flat pedal fan boys.
    You obviously have some sort of mental handicap. Do you know who Sam Hill is!?!?! Riding DH with clips is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of! It's no wonder you can't corner worth sh!t. Fan boy... puh-lease look at you and your wanna be Gee Atherton bike. BTW did you see Cam's wreck at Crankworks!? I bet a leatt woulda saved him. Hahahahahahaa

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    WTF are you talking about with all this sam hill jive. do you know how nico vouilloz is??? "sam hill this", "brendan fairclough that", how about steve peat 17 time world cup winner and world champ, DB. god. I hope you fall over hitting and turn so fast that you die. probably won't be too hard cause you're on a piece of crap-over built freeriding huck bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    WTF are you talking about with all this sam hill jive. do you know how nico vouilloz is??? "sam hill this", "brendan fairclough that", how about steve peat 17 time world cup winner and world champ, DB. god. I hope you fall over hitting and turn so fast that you die. probably won't be too hard cause you're on a piece of crap-over built freeriding huck bike.
    Are you serious?! Nico Vouilloz? I thought that dude
    had to quite racing because of a clipless related injury?
    Besides that Sam and Brendan weren't even around to
    completely destroy him, cause they were probably like
    8 years old when he was any good. And don't even get me
    started on Steve Peat... only reason that dude is still
    around is cause him and Rob Warner give each other reach
    arounds inbetween practice laps. Pffftt, "piece of
    crap-over built freeriding huck bike" you obviously
    haven't been on PinkBike lately... Haven't you read
    reviews on there that it is the greatest DH race bike
    ever created? You're so ignorant and single minded, but
    at least you won't have to worry about hitting a turn
    so fast that you die cause you're usually braking so hard
    into 'em that a crash at that low of a speed would highly
    unlikely even break the skin, but then of course I
    forgot how weak and frail you are. Careful not to break
    the skin while you're jerkin' it to nude photos of Gee
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    I view clips as training wheels. Eventually you want to transition into something more manly.

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    that's funny!!! i view flats as things for people with small weiners! similar to those that drive big lifted trucks! analogies are so fun, aren't they???!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    that's funny!!! i view flats as things for people with small weiners! similar to those that drive big lifted trucks! analogies are so fun, aren't they???!!!
    Yeah... and people with MTBR handles like "assgrinder" probably love hot beef injections directly to the anus

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    ya ok "mike-e" your last name doesnt even start with an "e". does this mean you enjoy rolling on "e" and groping young boys? probably. assgrinder was actually a grindcore band in high school, similar to "cannibal corpse" and the like. its also because your mom doesn't like the normal way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    ya ok "mike-e" your last name doesnt even start with an "e". does this mean you enjoy rolling on "e" and groping young boys? probably. assgrinder was actually a grindcore band in high school, similar to "cannibal corpse" and the like. its also because your mom doesn't like the normal way.
    You got all that from "e"?! Dam bro, how much meth does it take to get you in that state of mind? And WTF is "grindcore" is that like when a bunch of dudes listen to Justin Bieber and grind each other to the core? Way to stoop to a "your Mom" joke to... all that meth makes you really unoriginal.

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    Snow bike pegs.... thread closed.

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    until i can come up with something even more wit-y I'm going to thread on 6" foot pegs on to my bottom bracket, wear my roost protector (so I don't snap my neck turning my head so fast to look at my skid), and go to the mcdowell pump track because its SOOO SICK

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    until i can come up with something even more wit-y I'm going to thread on 6" foot pegs on to my bottom bracket, wear my roost protector (so I don't snap my neck turning my head so fast to look at my skid), and go to the mcdowell pump track because its SOOO SICK
    You mean "FOCKING TITS!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    until i can come up with something even more wit-y I'm going to thread on 6" foot pegs on to my bottom bracket, wear my roost protector (so I don't snap my neck turning my head so fast to look at my skid), and go to the mcdowell pump track because its SOOO SICK
    Yeah... whatever... you're probably busy taking that hot beef injection right now anyways....

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    that's funny!!! i view flats as things for people with small weiners! similar to those that drive big lifted trucks! analogies are so fun, aren't they???!!!
    Could you wait till I got on here before you start rippin on me?Learn how to ride your bike ,instead of relying on those crutches.You're a big boy now.Plus,on flats,I can get my foot off quicker to kick your ass...on and of my 951.(I was setting up my suspension Sunday,so I didn't then.I'll show you no quarter,"National Champion" )
    My truck is that big because of medical reasons.I'm badass.It's quantifiable and I'm on medication for it.
    You seemed to enjoy my wiener up at sunrise,you liftdick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary
    Could you wait till I got on here before you start rippin on me?Learn how to ride your bike ,instead of relying on those crutches.You're a big boy now.Plus,on flats,I can get my foot off quicker to kick your ass...on and of my 951.(I was setting up my suspension Sunday,so I didn't then.I'll show you no quarter,"National Champion" )
    My truck is that big because of medical reasons.I'm badass.It's quantifiable and I'm on medication for it.
    You seemed to enjoy my wiener up at sunrise,you liftdick.
    Annnnnnd, Scary just proves that you are indeed taking that hot beef injection right now... Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Annnnnnd, Scary just proves that you are indeed taking that hot beef injection right now... Classic.

    Wait thought you were getting those hot beef injections from Scary this past weekend up in Sunrise. Didn't you post a thread in a version of a poem about how much you enjoyed taking it at fast and slow speeds???? Or was it just at a medium pace!!! That liquer company should sue your arse for stealing there name.....Beef eater!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    Wait thought you were getting those hot beef injections from Scary this past weekend up in Sunrise. Didn't you post a thread in a version of a poem about how much you enjoyed taking it at fast and slow speeds???? Or was it just at a medium pace!!! That liquer company should sue your arse for stealing there name.....Beef eater!!!!
    Hey, didn't you recently get banned for not having proper papers/ID?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Hey, didn't you recently get banned for not having proper papers/ID?
    shouldn't you have been banned for coming from a long line of losers!!! Don't worry tho it aint your fault being blue eyed and blonde hair seems just cut for you canadians here in the usa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    And WTF is "grindcore" is that like when a bunch of dudes listen to Justin Bieber and grind each other to the core?.
    BHAHAhahahahha that was great
    i like these odds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    WTF are you talking about with all this sam hill jive. do you know how nico vouilloz is??? "sam hill this", "brendan fairclough that", how about steve peat 17 time world cup winner and world champ, DB. god. I hope you fall over hitting and turn so fast that you die. probably won't be too hard cause you're on a piece of crap-over built freeriding huck bike.
    ... dude, those bikes are siisisisisick!!! and it's not really a huck bike at all, although it has no problem in that environment.. nothing against peat, but he's got nothing on hill...
    i like these odds....

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    but not before I get to chime in with my .02 on flats vs clips! I rode clips forever but not until I switched to flats did I learn how to stay centered on my bike, bunny hop (not flat-lift) and drop. Flats will make you a better rider. That said, I still cant climb with 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    shouldn't you have been banned for coming from a long line of losers!!! Don't worry tho it aint your fault being blue eyed and blonde hair seems just cut for you canadians here in the usa
    Am I the only one who can't make sense of this? I know they don't teach English in your native land but good God man take some lessons or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary
    Could you wait till I got on here before you start rippin on me?Learn how to ride your bike ,instead of relying on those crutches.You're a big boy now.Plus,on flats,I can get my foot off quicker to kick your ass...on and of my 951.(I was setting up my suspension Sunday,so I didn't then.I'll show you no quarter,"National Champion" )
    My truck is that big because of medical reasons.I'm badass.It's quantifiable and I'm on medication for it.
    You seemed to enjoy my wiener up at sunrise,you liftdick.
    Wow, don't think I could add too much more to this thread. The 'ol Clipless vs Flats debate has been beaten to death for years, but for those who are in the know most of the top of the world cup circuit with few exceptions ride both. If you are in doubt check out the majority of the field at Champrey. Even the flat hard core sometimes run clips ie Kovaric at Angel Fire '06. Scary your daddy Silky Johnston called him out. So run what ever you are comfortable with, either will suffice. Man you guys in the valley really need to get out and ride

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    Clips are ghey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinatorj
    Wow, don't think I could add too much more to this thread. The 'ol Clipless vs Flats debate has been beaten to death for years, but for those who are in the know most of the top of the world cup circuit with few exceptions ride both. If you are in doubt check out the majority of the field at Champrey. Even the flat hard core sometimes run clips ie Kovaric at Angel Fire '06. Scary your daddy Silky Johnston called him out. So run what ever you are comfortable with, either will suffice. Man you guys in the valley really need to get out and ride
    And you out of towners really need to mind your own business; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    you do realize that more than half of the top ten world cup racers are on clips right? if you're doing it right, you'll do whatever is comfortable. please, move to california, buy a leatt and a 951, then you can hang with other flat pedal fan boys.
    Way to chime in captain d00sh I haven't seen you once at sunrise,south mountain or the pit . If you want to ride show up in your clips so I can laugh. Don't forget your spandex and seatpad

    Also. I'm pretty sure nobody in this convo is a top 10 dh racer so that's a moot point.

    Op no offense to u for riding clips this guys just an assclown just ride clips and take a spare of flats.

    Take the negativity elsewhere nobody's going to take you serious with such a immature handle as assgrinder. Keep the nicknames between you and your boyfriend that's none of our business
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBusJames

    *disclaimer unclipping has been found to occur approximately 99.9958% of the time for me. The other .0042% of the time can be painful or embarrassing, or both.
    Do you have the vid of you stuck in your peds upsidedown in a small tree at Sunrise that you could share with us?

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    I'm not going to attack you airmiller but I'd love to see you back up your **** talking. I must have forgotten that the only places to ride in the entire state of Arizona are a crappy ski resort, a decrepit shuttle mountain, and an even worse "pit". LETS GO RACE AND SEE WHO IS TEH BESTIZESSS

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    I'm not going to attack you airmiller but I'd love to see you back up your **** talking. I must have forgotten that the only places to ride in the entire state of Arizona are a crappy ski resort, a decrepit shuttle mountain, and an even worse "pit". LETS GO RACE AND SEE WHO IS TEH BESTIZESSS
    Sweet... Can I be the race official for this?!!?! Let's take bets to, I've got $1000 on grindcore master assgrinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Sweet... Can I be the race official for this?!!?! Let's take bets to, I've got $1000 on grindcore master assgrinder
    I've got a sweet light set up for the winner.

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    can I bet against myself? I could use some CREAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    can I bet against myself? I could use some CREAM
    Absolutely not! C'mon, I've got a G riding on your sorry, clipless riding, no talent a$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    I'm not going to attack you airmiller but I'd love to see you back up your **** talking. I must have forgotten that the only places to ride in the entire state of Arizona are a crappy ski resort, a decrepit shuttle mountain, and an even worse "pit". LETS GO RACE AND SEE WHO IS TEH BESTIZESSS

    Wasn't a challenge to race. More questioning if you even ride as I have yet to see a dh rig with clips in person. Only all mountain bikes doing dh runs with clips.


    Sure if I see a guy with clips it will Probably be u otherwise I wont be riding in flagstaff. We don't know each others skills over the internet and that wasn't the point. Hell I can barely match any names to handles here.

    Point is leave your remarks about me going elsewhere to learn the real thing out of it.
    I'm a weekend warrior and never entered a race. However I have great technique and ride fast and have fun that's what I'm here for.

    You say u moved to Denver how was clips on pikes peak or any of the ski resorts there. Those are not crappy resorts. But yes sunrise is small and I would never board there after growing up in Denver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Absolutely not! C'mon, I've got a G riding on your sorry, clipless riding, no talent a$$

    better than putting money down for your Crashing M-F'n arse! Since you are so for this why don't you just join in the race you lint licker. I would put my money down on you not finishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    better than putting money down for your Crashing M-F'n arse! Since you are so for this why don't you just join in the race you lint licker. I would put my money down on you not finishing.
    Uhh... who was it that crashed 10ft in front of the finish line at Bootleg?! Oh yeah... YOU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
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    Wasn't a challenge to race. More questioning if you even ride as I have yet to see a dh rig with clips in person. Only all mountain bikes doing dh runs with clips.
    No I don't ride, I just exist here on the hypo-net. My goal in life is to just banter people and make them question themselves and their great technique.

    If you've never seen clipless on a DH bike then you've more than likely had your head stuck up you know what for the last 20 years.

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    But before we do anymore name bashing, let's close this. I switched from flats to clips and felt my riding improved quite a bit. That isn't even the point of this discussion. TAKE BOTH SETS OF PEDALS TO SUNRISE. BOOM BOOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Uhh... who was it that crashed 10ft in front of the finish line at Bootleg?! Oh yeah... YOU!
    He crashed because he was trying to SPELL finish line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog
    He crashed because he was trying to SPELL finish line.
    Comedy
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    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgrinder
    But before we do anymore name bashing, let's close this. I switched from flats to clips and felt my riding improved quite a bit. That isn't even the point of this discussion. TAKE BOTH SETS OF PEDALS TO SUNRISE. BOOM BOOM.
    Like I said before to each his own. And of course I have not rode dh for anywhere near 20 years lol or followed closely. Anyways just have fun op the trails were nice last weekend And maybe assgrinder is right and I should try clips sometime on dh
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog
    He crashed because he was trying to SPELL finish line.

    with my crash and time spent spelling, I'm still faster than you Jew boy! don't you have a tannig bed and a gym to go to? Oh one more thing this fat arse still got you beat on climbs......I bet you know how to spell SLOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    with my crash and time spent spelling, I'm still faster than you Jew boy! don't you have a tannig bed and a gym to go to? Oh one more thing this fat arse still got you beat on climbs......I bet you know how to spell SLOW.
    The hawaiian is getting uppity.

    You should come out today and pedal.
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    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider
    The hawaiian is getting uppity.

    You should come out today and pedal.
    Azdog can rock the PT with us later and we can let the last man standing speak for himself. You must be F' buddy's if you are defending him.....oh don't pick on my biznatch now I got to say something to make my biznatch feel better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider
    The hawaiian is getting uppity.

    You should come out today and pedal.
    and as witty as a decomposing pineapple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog
    He crashed because he was trying to SPELL finish line.
    Thats funny... I thought it was cause he saw a border patrol agent in the parking lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    Azdog can rock the PT with us later and we can let the last man standing speak for himself. You must be F' buddy's if you are defending him.....oh don't pick on my biznatch now I got to say something to make my biznatch feel better!
    No, you're just getting uppity.
    I didn't say to stop.

    Last man standing? Didn't you get lapped by Resa last time? And nearly collapse after?
    Too much 5 guys...

    Come pedal, then head to PT, that's what I'm doing.
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    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Thats funny... I thought it was cause he saw a border patrol agent in the parking lot.

    No that was the reason for AZdog slowing down on his race run and crashed, he thought a dust screen would hide him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmiller44
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    More questioning if you even ride as I have yet to see a dh rig with clips in person. Only all mountain bikes doing dh runs with clips.

    sorry man there are alot of local dh riders riding clips. You need to get out more. I can think of at least 10 guys easy and most are very good riders.
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    U[QUOTE=clockwork]sorry man there are alot of local dh riders riding clips. You need to get out more. I can think of at least 10 guys easy and most are very good riders.[/QUOTE


    Never seen them once in all my trips to sunrise,somo, or the pit. I've seen u multiple times at sunrise and the pit nobody you rode with had them. Not saying they are not there but I have yet to see it. Of course I've seen them riding down fire road but I don't count that.

    Guees I grew up on flats and never had a road bike or legit all mountain with clips. I have rode with people I'm clips now that I think of it at somo once
    He was struggling but I don't think his skill was to par and doesnt count either.Of course the best could beat us on a bmx down a hill but anyways I will have to give it a whirl sometime. and look out for clips when I ride
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    I have been to sunrise once this year. Last year mutiple guys I rode wit hhad clips the same guys visit the pit also.

    I also have tried clips and couldn't get used to it but then I have been riding flats for 28 years .

    From those that ride them love them just like the guys stuck on flats. Like others things its for some and not for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog
    and as witty as a decomposing pineapple.
    And your as good looking as a blown out vag from a mexican donkey show!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    And your as good looking as a blown out vag from a mexican donkey show!
    Wow the visuals...chilling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibro
    Wow the visuals...chilling

    funny thing is Mike-e is the relief catcher!!!
    He's still young so his vag isn't blown out yet like a open roast beef sandwich!

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    ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koa Poi-dog
    funny thing is Mike-e is the relief catcher!!!
    He's still young so his vag isn't blown out yet like a open roast beef sandwich!
    Couple more shuttles with you and I'm sure it will be.
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    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider
    Couple more shuttles with you and I'm sure it will be.
    Hey, how are your ribs doing? Still cracked from you and Doodoo's tummysticking deathmatch in the motel room!? Doodoo told me that was the best present anyone's ever gotten him.

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    just when you think this place might mature a bit ....... this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    just when you think this place might mature a bit ....... this happens.
    Why don't you put us on your "ignore" list????? Or maybe just not view the thread???? Maybe???? But in all seriousness you should probably send PaulB a PM and let him know whats up.

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    mike-e check you pm's... i have a question
    i like these odds....

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    IMO there seems to be to much and not enough

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    for real....
    i like these odds....

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    [QUOTE=Mike-e]Why don't you put us on your "ignore" list????? Or maybe just not view the thread???? Maybe???? But in all seriousness you should probably send PaulB a PM and let him know whats up.[/Q

    Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike-e
    Why don't you put us on your "ignore" list????? Or maybe just not view the thread???? Maybe???? But in all seriousness you should probably send PaulB a PM and let him know whats up.

    So sensitive...don't make me break out my Magicshine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    So sensitive...don't make me break out my Magicshine.

    Could you, oh please, could you! I need to sooo badly see my front tire and do gnarly jumps in the dark off some cheese wedges!

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    Bringing both sets. Haha, this thread blew up.

    Note to self, don't ever bring up a flats vs clips holy war again. It is like politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    ouch that's messed up!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    So sensitive...don't make me break out my Magicshine.
    Please don't bother me... I'm busy cutting my wrists cause someone made fun of me online

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    remember.... cut with the vain, not across the wrist like in the movies .

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