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    Sun 8/5 SoMo roadie roundabout

    This Sunday is Chongoman Bob's 30th birthday!!! What better way to begin the day than with a road ride around and up SoMo mountain.

    Meet at the Safeway/Walgreen's parking lot on the SW corner of Elliot and 48th for FIP @ 5:30AM. Let's park in front of the Walgreen's near Elliot. Nice thing about starting here is that we can enjoy birthday breakfast burritos at Los Taquitos Mexican Grill after the ride!!!

    Need an address to mapquest your morning drive? 4747 E Elliot Phoenix, AZ 85044

    Ride will head west thru Ahwatukee for a clockwise loop around SoMo. We'll be doing a short 2 1/4 mile stretch on dirt (Pecos thru the Rez) so sturdy tires are recommended - I highly recommend Specialized Armadillo tires. But if you don't have Armadillos then just take it slow and your bike will be fine. Plan is to climb to the towers once on the north side of the loop for a total mileage of ~50.5 miles. If anyone skips the climb, their loop will be ~34 miles. There will be 2 water/snack stops along the way (see smilies on map). Can do a third stop at Baseline/48th before heading south if needed.

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    I will sure be there

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    Man, I hope you guys don't stop doing these rides, now that I got myself a shiny new road bike. Unfortunately, I'm not in good enough shape to make it 50 miles, yet, but I will be. Please keep posting these rides, I really gotta do one.
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    I can't wait to get me a new shiny carbon roadie! That's later this year though...

    As for the ride, it's early in the week to commit but I'm seriously interested. I've been wanting to climb SoMo since moving here. Mark me down as another strong maybe...emphasis on strong...

    Although I did just get a Reba so I may be breaking that in....Oh the choices one faces....

    ....I think the roadie will win out.
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    Kevin what did you buy??? We need to head out for a spin..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB
    I can't wait to get me a new shiny carbon roadie! That's later this year though...

    As for the ride, it's early in the week to commit but I'm seriously interested. I've been wanting to climb SoMo since moving here. Mark me down as another strong maybe...emphasis on strong...

    Although I did just get a Reba so I may be breaking that in....Oh the choices one faces....

    ....I think the roadie will win out.
    Reba on Saturday, Roadie on Sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theFuzz
    Kevin what did you buy??? We need to head out for a spin..
    Well, I bought me shiny carbon fiber road bike. A Specialized Tarmac Comp, to be exact. Let me get back in decent enough shape to make it worth while, and we'll ride any time you want. I have to bust my a$$, to get in shape for race up in Flag., so I'll be at the gym, and out on the weekends, riding.
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    Shape, HA! I rode 3 times in July....

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    Probably end up that way....
    Why would I need more than one gear?
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    i was game for it (minus the climb to the towers) but i only have road tires; they won't roll well on 2½ miles of rocky, pebbly dirt .
    oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboose
    i was game for it (minus the climb to the towers) but i only have road tires; they won't roll well on 2½ miles of rocky, pebbly dirt .
    oh well.
    they should! unless they are full on ultralight-weight racerchick tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboose
    i was game for it (minus the climb to the towers) but i only have road tires; they won't roll well on 2½ miles of rocky, pebbly dirt .
    oh well.
    just how bad is this off-road section? is there a way to bypass it by adding miles? im a wuss on my skinny bike. Thanks.

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    I had to do a double take on the URL to make sure I had not stumbled into the wrong forum.... what is happening to you people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    I had to do a double take on the URL to make sure I had not stumbled into the wrong forum.... what is happening to you people
    I'm disgusted with myself, its like a Kafka story, its reaching pandemic levels.

    WARNING: reading this thread may turn you into a roadie wussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball
    just how bad is this off-road section? is there a way to bypass it by adding miles? im a wuss on my skinny bike. Thanks.
    The dirt route is a significant shortcut... to get on 100% pavement, you have to go way down south and going-round-SoMo becomes too long for this time of year for a bunch of casual riders. The last time I was on this dirt road was 2 summers ago when I first bought my fancy road bike. It had high performance road tires on it then and did just fine. The road was hard-packed dirt with tiny gravel - no sand, no big rocks. On this ride 2 years ago, Mr. PoopyPants (my boyfriend who persuaded me to get the bike) was all pouty about riding on dirt. But I believe that you all are a tougher bunch and have that sense of adventure needed for this expedition. We can do it - we are mountain bikers!

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    Consider me a maybably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl
    We can do it - we are mountain bikers!

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    What is the pace?

    It's been a while since I have been on my road bike and was wondering the pace? It is funny to see the mtn bikers asking about the dirt road but can understand if you have a nice carbon frame that the pebbles would just eat alive.

    I might be up for it. You probably do not know me but I think I met you up at the Spring Fling in Sedona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboose
    i was game for it (minus the climb to the towers) but i only have road tires; they won't roll well on 2½ miles of rocky, pebbly dirt .
    oh well.

    I run 23's with slime tubes and have problem riding on the canals, reach11 and T100.

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    I don't really know any of you. And though 530 on a Sunday sounds very early, I'd like to join in if it's cool. I'm a casual rider, mostly mountain but lately have been doing more road riding, and have done this loop (with the climb) before. Not very fast mind you, but I have done it and would love to actually ride with some other people for a change!!

    Thanks,
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    PS. I'm another one that will be on a carbon Tarmac, the dirts really not a problem (Oh, the karma gods are going to have fun with that one.)

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    I'll be there with my red Cannondale. I haven't ridden that route in over a year but it is a great ride especially when you get a pace line rolling. I am looking forward to coughing up a lung or two on the climb to the towers. I'm not a hill climber, so I'll be changing out the rear 11-23 cluster to a 12-27.

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    May be there

    Depends upon the weekend schedule.. might be doing the skull valley loop up north (Prescott) on Sat which is 55miles. If I do this ride sunday that will be over 100 for
    the weekend.. and I thought last weekend was hard!

    The dirt wont hurt folks.. 23's should be fine for a couple of miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    Have you looked at yourself lately

    so true, but maybe you missed my whole Alta story a few weeks back - I have been giving my fractured sacrum time to heal. I've found that the bum doesn't hurt when road riding, so my accident has given me a chance to renew my acquaintence with the ignored road bike. I hope to get back to real dirt next weekend for Walt's Hawes Sweatfest.

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    Cool... lots of new folks!

    Pace will be varied in the group. As a gauge, I was in the slow pack the last two weekends and had averages of 15 and 15.5 mph for the 40ish miles with significant hills. Ride is to be social, meaning that the fast folks will wait or double back for the slow folks at key intervals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honemastert
    the skull valley loop up north (Prescott) on Sat which is 55miles.
    whats the route for this ride..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chongoman
    I will sure be there
    Happy B-day Bob!!!!

    I'm still planning on backpacking this weekend, though for some reason this is tempting.

    Edit: If I came I'd have to bring this: (good for the dirt, I reckon)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrodr
    Im in... but you already knew that
    You're becoming a regular roadie!

    If I do this, I'll bring that fork for ya.
    Why would I need more than one gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl
    my accident has given me a chance to renew my acquaintence with the ignored road bike.

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    Thanks! Dave. Hope you can make it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ionsmuse
    Happy B-day Bob!!!!

    I'm still planning on backpacking this weekend, though for some reason this is tempting.

    Edit: If I came I'd have to bring this: (good for the dirt, I reckon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB
    You're becoming a regular roadie!
    I just have a short attention span. I have to do whats fun dirt, road, SS, geared, dh......
    I dont care as long as its fun.....
    it all keeps me from graduating to superfatass status

    what do you mean if

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrodr
    I just have a short attention span. I have to do whats fun dirt, road, SS, geared, dh......
    I dont care as long as its fun.....
    it all keeps me from graduating to superfatass status

    what do you mean if

    see ya Sun.....
    yeeeeeeeesss! another A.D.D AM L3! its great to ride everything and suck at all of it

    DurtGurl's average for last week seems too slow, maybe cause we were a small group but it sure seemed like you were faster than that -- we were cruising 18-19 mph inline on the ride out, long stretches in the 20s on the way back. my hunch is we will be in a line for a good part of this ride since so much is flat.

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    hmm... my tires are continentals ultra gatorskin 23-622 (700x23c).
    i guess y'all are saying they'll be ok on the dirt?

    i have another question [sorry DG]: is everybody going to ride up to the towers or will there be some winnies like me who won't? (riding to the san juan lookout while the others climb might be an option?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboose
    hmm... my tires are continentals ultra gatorskin 23-622 (700x23c).
    i guess y'all are saying they'll be ok on the dirt?

    i have another question [sorry DG]: is everybody going to ride up to the towers or will there be some winnies like me who won't? (riding to the san juan lookout while the others climb might be an option?)
    I think it depends on how long it takes to get around the mtn and how hot it is once we reach Central Ave. No shame at not climbing to the top... Shoot, I may just plop down for a nap under the trees at the guard shack while the boys all race each other to the towers and back.

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    I will try to make it

    Ive not met any of you yet, but this sounds like a good ride. As I am now officially in training for the Tour de Scottsdale, I need to start putting some miles on the road bike.

    Ive been off the bike for about 6 months, so can guarantee I will be bringing up the rear, so if anyone else feels slow, I will be there. As for the ride up, that will depend greatly on how I feel when we reach the turn off. Would love to try it, been on my list to try for a few years and just never done so. (never even drove it).

    5:30 is way early for me, but I will try my hardest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl
    Shoot, I may just plop down for a nap under the trees at the guard shack while the boys all race each other to the towers and back.
    best idea yet; i'll bring two pillows!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboose
    hmm... my tires are continentals ultra gatorskin 23-622 (700x23c).
    i guess y'all are saying they'll be ok on the dirt?

    i have another question [sorry DG]: is everybody going to ride up to the towers or will there be some winnies like me who won't? (riding to the san juan lookout while the others climb might be an option?)

    Kaboose,

    I just bought a road bike last month and have been riding by myself so this sounds great. I would love to ride on Sunday even though 5:30 is REALLY HARD. I definantly am still in the roadie "weenie" catagory and will not be climbing the towers.

    P.S. Are we supposed to bring a gift?? Hehe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtRocks
    ...even though 5:30 is REALLY HARD.
    yeah, that's 5:30 READY TO RIDE which means getting there while still sort'a dark. gotta do it though in order to make it back before it becomes too bloody HOT and we pass out on the street!!

    i'm glad i'll have company not doing the climb. viva los vagos!!!
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    I am in the Fountain Hills area if anyone is interested in Carpooling? Figure this way it will for sure get me out there is someone else is depending on me for a ride. Let me know.

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    re: Conti 23c's

    [QUOTE=kaboose]hmm... my tires are continentals ultra gatorskin 23-622 (700x23c).
    i guess y'all are saying they'll be ok on the dirt?

    They'll be fine.. that's what I have on mine

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    Alright ya'll, I'm coming for sure. And I'll be getting up at 0300, so don't complain to me about early starts! And there's no way I'll be missing that climb, and I might just have to hang around after to ride some dirt on the fixie.



    Summer in the valley, should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ionsmuse
    Alright ya'll, I'm coming for sure. And I'll be getting up at 0300, so don't complain to me about early starts! And there's no way I'll be missing that climb, and I might just have to hang around after to ride some dirt on the fixie.



    Summer in the valley, should be fun.
    huh? wuh? wtf? did you lose a bet to Jayem or something? . don't forget we still use sunscreen in these here parts, yankee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball
    huh? wuh? wtf? did you lose a bet to Jayem or something? . don't forget we still use sunscreen in these here parts, yankee.
    No. It's a bit of a long drive, after all.

    And I never knew that being from Ohio qualified one as a yankee, the boys down by the river in Cincy might have something to say about that.

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    haha. no gifts! Unless it's a briefcase of cash.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtRocks
    Kaboose,

    I just bought a road bike last month and have been riding by myself so this sounds great. I would love to ride on Sunday even though 5:30 is REALLY HARD. I definantly am still in the roadie "weenie" catagory and will not be climbing the towers.

    P.S. Are we supposed to bring a gift?? Hehe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ionsmuse
    Alright ya'll, I'm coming for sure. And I'll be getting up at 0300, so don't complain to me about early starts! And there's no way I'll be missing that climb, and I might just have to hang around after to ride some dirt on the fixie.



    Summer in the valley, should be fun.
    Dave - I fear that you will need to get up earlier than 0300 to be ready to ride at 5:30AM in Ahwatukee...

    Here's a better idea - pack up your bikes and your wife and head on down Sat night. I have a really comfy guest bed that you are welcome to use. She can lounge in the pool and spa while we do the ride and then meet us for breakfast burritos.

    Also, here's an invite to all... I will be heading straight to my pool after the burrito bash and you are are all welcome to join me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl
    Dave - I fear that you will need to get up earlier than 0300 to be ready to ride at 5:30AM in Ahwatukee...

    Here's a better idea - pack up your bikes and your wife and head on down Sat night. I have a really comfy guest bed that you are welcome to use. She can lounge in the pool and spa while we do the ride and then meet us for breakfast burritos.

    Also, here's an invite to all... I will be heading straight to my pool after the burrito bash and you are are all welcome to join me.
    I've made it from my house in East Mesa to the start of the Whiskey in Prescott in under 2hrs, at 4am -- I drive fast. The location is 1min off the I-10. Not sure where in Prescott you are, but hope that helps you. have a safe trip.

    PS: the Casa de DG, however, sounds like a fabulous option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl
    Dave - I fear that you will need to get up earlier than 0300 to be ready to ride at 5:30AM in Ahwatukee...

    Here's a better idea - pack up your bikes and your wife and head on down Sat night. I have a really comfy guest bed that you are welcome to use. She can lounge in the pool and spa while we do the ride and then meet us for breakfast burritos.

    Also, here's an invite to all... I will be heading straight to my pool after the burrito bash and you are are all welcome to join me.

    That is a tempting offer on all counts. I shall consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ionsmuse
    That is a tempting offer on all counts. I shall consider.
    What's to consider?! Just do it! BTW~Doesn't your chick road ride? You can both enjoy this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by su.ling~
    What's to consider?! Just do it! BTW~Doesn't your chick road ride? You can both enjoy this one.
    M's got work she may or may not have to do Sunday, and I'm leaving in ~20 minutes for an overnight in the Grand Canyon. Scheduling issues, in other words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by su.ling~
    What's to consider?! Just do it! BTW~Doesn't your chick road ride? You can both enjoy this one.
    Suling your awful quiet are you and Jeffro comin??
    warmup tomorrow??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrodr
    Suling your awful quiet are you and Jeffro comin??
    warmup tomorrow??
    Well, last time I said we were going to be at a road ride and I got pretty ill and didn't end up going. So I didn't want to jinx it for this time.
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