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    Stepping up the gears... How badly should this hurt?

    Gotta replace the cassette and chain (chain broke on me a couple days ago) and it's been three chains on the original rings so I ordered new rings.

    Going from 22/32 to 24/36.

    36 won't matter since it's mostly for DH but 22 to 24 may be more than I'm bargaining for.

    Any of you gearheads have a rough estimate of what +2 up front is gonna feel like with a standard 9sp 11-34 in back? I'm just guessing but I don't think it would feel the same as +2 in back would but I don't know squat...

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    Stepping up the gears... How badly should this hurt?

    I've been running 24x36 with an 11-34 for years. What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.


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    2 teeth up front is about 5% harder for same gear in back.
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    that shouldnt be an issue... I assume you have a 1x9 ?
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    Neat tool to see the difference:

    Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Gear Calculator

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    if you use the 22 front 34 rear a lot then you will miss it. but if you rarely use the bail out gear you should be golden. i use my 22F, 30R more. a 22F, 30R works out to a 1.36 gear ratio. a 24F, 34R works out to a 1.41 ratio
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    Stepping up the gears... How badly should this hurt?

    You lost me at "cassette." Why do you need more than one gear?
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    that shouldnt be an issue... I assume you have a 1x9 ?
    2x9

    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    Neat tool to see the difference:

    Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Gear Calculator
    So, looks like 22 > 24 is about the same as 1 gear in back. I can live with that. I do use granny but not a lot. Typically, I'm in 2 or 3 while climbing so looks like my climbs will be a little tougher but I shouldn't have to do any more walking than I normally would.

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    I think the Sram XX1 on your 26" XC/DH bike would be pretty sweet. I don't ride 26" wheels, but a friend of mine does and he just upgraded to the XX1. He is extermely fast and this made him even faster. With the 10-42t cassette in back paired up with the 26" wheel and a 32t ring up front, the guy can climb a wall and still sprint pretty fast!

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    Well, I'm extremely slow and would not be faster with a 1x11. Especially when it would cost probably more than my bike is worth for such an upgrade.

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    Gears? You don't need no stinking GEARS! Put it on and ride it dude, a little bit more effort never hurt anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxBenK View Post
    Gears? You don't need no stinking GEARS! Put it on and ride it dude, a little bit more effort never hurt anyone.
    You haven't met my sorry ass...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jibro View Post
    I've been running 24x36 with an 11-34 for years. What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.
    What length derailleur you runnin'? I've got a med cage and when in 22/34 the cage is as far back as it will go and the chain looks like it's rubbing against itself. Now, in it's defense, this derailleur is beat to sh|t. I'm surprised it's still working. So, when it fails and I put a new med cage on I'll know for sure. Added two links to the chain length. Well, I call it two but it's literally 4 since you can't actually remove just one.

    I'll see soon enough...



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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    You haven't met my sorry ass...


    What length derailleur you runnin'? I've got a med cage and when in 22/34 the cage is as far back as it will go and the chain looks like it's rubbing against itself.
    I run a Medium Cage with four links (or two if you look at it from a pair removal perspective) removed from stock chain length.
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    I've been pleasantly surprised at how little these bigger gears have affected me. Where I would normally climb in 2 or 3 in back I STILL climb in 2 or 3. I just force myself to crank the larger gear for longer. I mostly only go to granny when I know the tough stuff is behind me. I use it as a breather gear

    There are spots that I know what I normally climb in and I'll focus on climbing in a harder gear simply because I know I have one less emergency gear to work with. I turn my "workout" rides into actual workouts.

    It's been tougher on my legs but what is tough on the bike is simply making me stronger. Another reason why I'm not worried about how heavy my bike or tires are. More weight means I get stronger.

    That's my theory and I'm sticking to it...

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    Dang your vids are entertaining Mike! Good job step'n up too!
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Don't think you'll notice.
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    This should help

    Use this gear ratio calculator to figure what you currently have vs. what the new one will be. E.g. find the "new" gear in your current setup and try riding it for a while. I did this when contemplating a new bike which had 1X11, and there was no way I could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Don't think you'll notice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wherewolf View Post
    Use this gear ratio calculator to figure what you currently have vs. what the new one will be. E.g. find the "new" gear in your current setup and try riding it for a while. I did this when contemplating a new bike which had 1X11, and there was no way I could do it.
    It's a done thing already. I DID notice but I forced myself to push harder and make it work.

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    I have been riding single 36 upfront and 11-36 for the past few months. Surprisingly out of seat climbing only accounts for less than 5% of my riding, except when I ride the McD mountains - then it's like 40%. (85% on the uphill).

    Of course stand up pedaling only makes sense on hardtails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    I DID notice
    You're riding's progressing but you still have a potty mouth. :0

    Looks like you switched rigs too, Stumpy or Enduro 29 maybe?
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Looks like you switched rigs too, Stumpy or Enduro 29 maybe?
    Still rockin' the Pitch. You may have just watched the CDA video in which I was riding a rented Stumpy 29 EVO.

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    Yup. That was it.
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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