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    So what is so fun about trail 100 ?

    7th to Tatum and back, grueling 18 miles of hand numbing rock shakin teeth shattering torture...

    is it any better on full suspension?
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    I think the west side is a pretty good trail. East of dreamy draw not so much., I don't keep to T100 proper over there. I ride a FS bike though.
    Where do you normally ride that you're comparing it to?

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    18 miles???? I think it's more like 10ish one way. Toss in an up and down on Shaw Butte at the midpoint and you have a good solid workout. I think it's actually smooth compared to other stuff in PMP, and it fine with a HT. Pretty fun, flat out and fast (if you like that kind of thing) and very different from the more interesting trails (ie, 8, 8A, VOAZ, IL, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    7th to Tatum, grueling 18 miles of hand numbing rock shakin teeth shattering torture...

    is it any better on full suspension?
    I like trail 100. I typically ride it from Dreamy Draw to 7th and back. Fun and a good challenge and 100% rideable. A little short though. I ride a 26" Hardtail. I have not ridden it to tatum however.
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    HT is plenty of bike for that trail but FS does make it a bit more relaxing. I definitely wouldn't call it "teeth shattering"
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    The best thing about T100 is all the good trails it'll lead you to.

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    Im a wimp and I don't think trail 100 is all that chunky (teeth shattering).... try some of the trails on or adjacent to windgate... sheesh....

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    There's always the canals

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    7th to Tatum, grueling 18 miles of hand numbing rock shakin teeth shattering torture...

    is it any better on full suspension?
    Agreed. I tell other bikers you should avoid the Trail 100-area like the plague.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    I think the west side is a pretty good trail. East of dreamy draw not so much., I don't keep to T100 proper over there. I ride a FS bike though.
    Where do you normally ride that you're comparing it to?
    I used to live by dynamite and pima - so I rode there a lot and now live by the sonoran preserve trails and those just kick ass.

    I think you are right though, they east side was the rockiest and kind of blah. The west side is nice for a back and forth ride, but it's kind of short by itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    18 miles???? I think it's more like 10ish one way. Toss in an up and down on Shaw Butte at the midpoint and you have a good solid workout. I think it's actually smooth compared to other stuff in PMP, and it fine with a HT. Pretty fun, flat out and fast (if you like that kind of thing) and very different from the more interesting trails (ie, 8, 8A, VOAZ, IL, etc).
    back and forth

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    Out and back

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    now live by the sonoran preserve trails and those just kick ass.
    just rode there for the first time this weekend and had a blast. Plan on going out there tomorrow to do desert tortoise to valle vista to cactus wren then great horned owl and back.

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    yo metalaficionado, start at dreamy draw, back your car in and enjoy the ride.





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    Quote Originally Posted by IamtheYeti View Post
    just rode there for the first time this weekend and had a blast. Plan on going out there tomorrow to do desert tortoise to valle vista to cactus wren then great horned owl and back.
    That's about a 50 minute ride, you may feel unsatisfied. I do that or dixie loop if I don't have much time before or after work.

    If you add dixie loop, it will make a nice 1:30 run and you will be spent.

    Oh and I always ride GO before Cactus Wren - you get the climbs over earlier in the trail and get to fly back.

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    To answer the question in the title of the thread, do I have to state the obvious:
    1. YOUR RIDING YOUR BIKE!!
    2. on trails in the middle of town.
    3. Youíre doing it legally
    Something more than 90% of the country doesn't do or cannot do.

    If you looking for more out of this trail system, search for the PMP Kitchen Sink rides. You will see you hit less than half the trails at PMP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    That's about a 50 minute ride, you may feel unsatisfied. I do that or dixie loop if I don't have much time before or after work.

    If you add dixie loop, it will make a nice 1:30 run and you will be spent.

    Oh and I always ride GO before Cactus Wren - you get the climbs over earlier in the trail and get to fly back.
    perfect. Thanks for the info.

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    PMP is horrible like Casual Observer mentioned. Lots of street thugs and shady activity.
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    T100 offers many attractions for mountain bikers:

    - free flats of all kinds
    - lots of hikers to dodge
    - horsesh!t everywhere
    - excellent wear and tear on your bike and body
    - great views of the city smog
    - coyotes to go after your dog
    - extra dirt from passing haboobii
    - many options for endo's

    Now who that rides a mountain bike wouldn't what all of that and come back for more?

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    That's Cosmic Ray's Primo Trail Pick.... WTF?

    Don't get me wrong, If I had it in my backyard I would go there for a quick afternoon or morning ride, but it's not worth the car trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    PMP is horrible like Casual Observer mentioned. Lots of street thugs and shady activity.
    For some reason, my Spidey Sense only tingles when I know you're out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    That's Cosmic Ray's Primo Trail Pick.... WTF?

    Don't get me wrong, If I had it in my backyard I would go there for a quick afternoon or morning ride, but it's not worth the car trip.
    Trail 100 has been long established and been a Cosmic ray primo trail for over 12 years. If you are going to ride in the Phx area it is one of good ones to pick. Plus the entire area that ride in has lots of side off shoots that are fun too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    That's Cosmic Ray's Primo Trail Pick.... WTF?

    Don't get me wrong, If I had it in my backyard I would go there for a quick afternoon or morning ride, but it's not worth the car trip.
    T100 is a "Primo Trail: Worth a Journey" according to cosmic ray. I'd like my 14.95 back It doesn't mention, or show on the map, any other trails in PMP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    PMP is horrible like Casual Observer mentioned. Lots of street thugs and shady activity.
    Yeah there is a Hebrewcian lurking in the corners, waiting to clean your yard and take all your coupons!!! But you can always tell where they are due to the trail of Tecate cans........
    Yes at all cost stay away from PMP it's not safe and There is SS riders there that will always wait for you to get a flat and come and approch you from behind while you are fixing it. Not to mention moving rocks that just gets in your way when you are climbing. Ugh I truly don't like riding at PMP.

    And those darn rocks, wish mountains aren't made of rocks. Wish they were made with asphalt and white and yellow lines with ****** diesel driving, women texting crazy fools instead......... Or better yet they need to invent mountain biking so I can stay in doors and watch my tv so my teeth don't get shattered!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    PMP is horrible like Casual Observer mentioned. Lots of street thugs and shady activity.
    +1
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    Explore, explore, explore. My regular "work out" is Tatum to DD and back, and I randomly pick side trails along the way every ride. The main trail gets "chattery" but that's part of riding. Mixing up the trails and finding new loops out there makes it awesome. Its possible to spend hours out there, which is pretty impressive since its in a relatively compact area. Lots of diversity too. Is it South Mountain...no. But its a 20 min spin from my driveway, and less than 15 from my business, so I'll keep riding there! and liking it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling View Post
    Explore, explore, explore. My regular "work out" is Tatum to DD and back, and I randomly pick side trails along the way every ride. The main trail gets "chattery" but that's part of riding. Mixing up the trails and finding new loops out there makes it awesome. Its possible to spend hours out there, which is pretty impressive since its in a relatively compact area. Lots of diversity too. Is it South Mountain...no. But its a 20 min spin from my driveway, and less than 15 from my business, so I'll keep riding there! and liking it!!!
    Tatum to DD, back up 100, hit 1A, up VOAZ, and down the cheesegrater to 8 or 100. Now that's a winner loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Tatum to DD, back up 100, hit 1A, up VOAZ, and down the cheesegrater to 8 or 100. Now that's a winner loop.
    Amen Brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling View Post
    Amen Brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Tatum to DD, back up 100, hit 1A, up VOAZ, and down the cheesegrater to 8 or 100. Now that's a winner loop.
    Do it twice for real fun racing the sunset....

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    Quote Originally Posted by armourbl View Post
    Do it twice for real fun racing the sunset....

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    Okay, when shall I expect you tomorrow?

    We'll call it the Sonoran Scramble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Okay, when shall I expect you tomorrow?

    We'll call it the Sonoran Scramble.
    Can't make it. Taking the weekend off most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Yo E... If your staging from DD u might want to bring the beer...


    or condoms:

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    One dulls the pain of the other?

    I might try to make Sonoran Scramble into a Strava segment tomorrow. All the cool kids are apparently doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdudecycling View Post
    Explore, explore, explore. My regular "work out" is Tatum to DD and back, and I randomly pick side trails along the way every ride. The main trail gets "chattery" but that's part of riding. Mixing up the trails and finding new loops out there makes it awesome. Its possible to spend hours out there, which is pretty impressive since its in a relatively compact area. Lots of diversity too. Is it South Mountain...no. But its a 20 min spin from my driveway, and less than 15 from my business, so I'll keep riding there! and liking it!!!
    Daz iz what I am talking about.

    If I had that around, I'd roll over and do that as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    One dulls the pain of the other?

    I might try to make Sonoran Scramble into a Strava segment tomorrow. All the cool kids are apparently doing it.
    Alright....changing my tagline....twisted bastards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    What're ya doin' tomorrow morning?
    Working....for better or worse. Feel free to check out my store though...Salvation Outdoor on the SW corner of 32nd St and Thunderbird, not too far from the trails.....Bikes, kayaks and camping equipment, not a bad way to spend the workday
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    I heard the trail off of 40th street is a great place to start, head right up trail 100. I am headed out there tomorrow, anyone done this?

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    Im riding T100 from 7th Ave and Peoria to Tatum Blvd, and back to 7th Ave, tommorow morning. I have no idea how many miles it is but it aint no walk in the park.

    I did it last weekend and it wasn't all that FUN, but I was on my bike and that's always more fun than not being on my bike!

    I typically start @ 40th St. and Shea, and ride around in the fish bowl that is PMP, but with this cool weather all the parking lots are packed with walkers and their dogs.

    If you see some idiot in black and white garb on a black GT riding T100 tommorow give me the only finger that counts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowflab View Post
    Im riding T100 from 7th Ave and Peoria to Tatum Blvd, and back to 7th Ave, tommorow morning. I have no idea how many miles it is but it aint no walk in the park.
    I think it's around 9 miles each way. A C2C is something I'd like to knock off my bucket list this cool season. Maybe even C2C2C...

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