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    Sedona -- 9-16-2012

    For the second weekend in a row, made a trip to Sedona with members of MTBR. This was only my second time there on a mountain bike and it was just as epic as the first time.

    I only know some of the people on this ride by their first name (not their screen names), so I hope everyone that rode with us finds this post.

    We rode from Bike and Bean to Slim Shady, Timpleton, Baldwin, to the fire road and pavement back to Bike and Bean. From there we refilled our hydration packs, refueled our bodies and headed out for another loop. This time Little Horse, Llama, etc. to Chicken Point for an out-and-back. Some of us braved walking some of the White Line -- for the life of me I can't see how anyone would ride that on a bike.

    Along the way I discovered how important knee pads are when I gashed my left knee. Thankfully, I had some first aid supplies. After applying some sterile strips to close the wound, I covered it with some guaze, medical tape, and an ace bandage I was almost as good as new again. My hydration was so much better this time around as well, and I didn't bonk until the very end and only then because I had reach the limits of my endurance.

    All in all an awesome time. In total we did 22.75 miles. It was a long day, but absolutely worth it. Can't wait to go back when it is cooler this fall.

    Here is a link to the JAlbum photo album I created of the photos I took. (sorry for the ads, it is a freeware album maker)

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    Sedona, Slim Shady and Templton trails part 1 - YouTube

    Sedona, Templton trail part 2 - YouTube

    Sedona, Baldwin trail - YouTube

    Sedona, Bell Rock to Llama and what's in between - YouTube

    Sedona, Llama to Chicken Point and the beginning of the return - YouTube

    Sedona, Llama to Bail Out trail - YouTube
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    Sick pictures. Those all turned out really well.

    But really, who let this guy come along again? No talent hack. And those knee pads. A crime against both fashion and humanity.



    He keeps high spirits though.


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    What a great day! - Thanks to you and the others for including me!
    Shoot me your email and I'll throw some videos on dropbox for ya.

    And........after flatting 3 freaking times, guess who went tubeless today?

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    Ive noticed several photos of what I presume are Sedona locals riding with white tee shirts. Is this to distinguise themselves from clueless tourists ( ) or an ingenious method of keeping cool?

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    Awesome pictures. Looks like you guys had a blast. Can't wait to hit the trails up there next month.

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    I'm getting stoked for Sedona season!

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    Eazy:

    That section you are walking I did a trail enhancement to so I could ride it 70% of the time. What I don't understand is why you guys aren't showing a picture of your group riding that difficult section with no dabs?

    It's GREAT to see you guys are having a good time. When are we going to see you guys RIDING the back side of Highline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    Sick pictures. Those all turned out really well.


    Where was this photo taken?
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    It was a blast guys! Thanks for letting me tag along (and putting up with my noob status). I'll try to get some video up on my web server once it's edited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Eazy:

    That section you are walking I did a trail enhancement to so I could ride it 70% of the time.
    Well, I guess you're a failure then.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Well, I guess you're a failure then.
    DOH!

    Easy, those clown wheels should get you through the tough spots anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Eazy:

    That section you are walking I did a trail enhancement to so I could ride it 70% of the time. What I don't understand is why you guys aren't showing a picture of your group riding that difficult section with no dabs?
    Don't worry about me, that's the 30% I didn't ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Eazy:

    That section you are walking I did a trail enhancement to so I could ride it 70% of the time. What I don't understand is why you guys aren't showing a picture of your group riding that difficult section with no dabs?

    It's GREAT to see you guys are having a good time. When are we going to see you guys RIDING the back side of Highline?
    I know a guy in the group that rode it with no dabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotam7 View Post
    I know a guy in the group that rode it with no dabs
    For a pseudo-roadie in funny Spandex, that guy was pretty damn good.

    Respect bro, deep respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotam7 View Post
    I know a guy in the group that rode it with no dabs
    Minn:

    Was he bummed that he cleaned it? Or did he have a big smile on his face? Do you think cleaning that section made the ride less enjoyable for him?

    What would you have done to make that section more fun to ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    What would you have done to make that section more fun to ride?
    Me, personally, I'd stop giving those who ride that section a guilt trip...and my resume. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Minn:

    Was he bummed that he cleaned it? Or did he have a big smile on his face? Do you think cleaning that section made the ride less enjoyable for him?

    What would you have done to make that section more fun to ride?
    Do you really have to ruin and otherwise fun post by dragging your drama and sarcasm into it?

    If wasn't so busy trying to clean the sections before myself, I might have stopped to take photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinwp View Post
    Where was this photo taken?
    I believe that is on Timpleton, about midway to Baldwin.

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    By the way, nice pics Ben. You are now the designated photographer!! Looking forward to some of the vids

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    I'm getting stoked for Sedona season!
    I am too but I'm hoping to be doing a lot more powder skiing this year than biking, especially after the last two years. Apres riding at Garlands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotam7 View Post
    By the way, nice pics Ben. You are now the designated photographer!! Looking forward to some of the vids
    Thanks Steve. It helps to have good subjects willing to risk it all for that "Kodak" moment.

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    Some of my favorite photos from the trip.











    The guy behind the camera...


    Steve showing how it is down...a minute later I tried this section again only succeeding to gash my left knee when failing to unclip as I fell...




    So many more, but you'll have to view the album to see the rest...

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    Videos uploaded and linked in the first post of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    Apres riding at Garlands!
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    Quote Originally Posted by armourbl View Post
    Do you really have to ruin and otherwise fun post by dragging your drama and sarcasm into it?

    If wasn't so busy trying to clean the sections before myself, I might have stopped to take photos.

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    Ben:

    I can assure you I am not being sarcastic about that section of Templeton. I worked my ass off making that section barely rideable per instructions from Jennifer Burns of the FS. Since you have given me so much negative input on my previous enhancement endeavors I am just trying to get some feedback from you and your friends on what they would have done differently on that section of trail.

    Did you guys clean the steep switchback section going the other direction? I spent a lot of time dumbing that section down and making it more sustainable.

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    There you go, TD, off the cliff again. Just when I was beginning the think you'd learned something. All I'm saying on this subject so as not to further jack the OPs thread. Nice pics, armourbl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    There you go, TD, off the cliff again. Just when I was beginning the think you'd learned something. All I'm saying on this subject so as not to further jack the OPs thread. Nice pics, armourbl!
    Common Velo:

    I ask Ben to help out with trying to make the trail system better and you don't like me asking a few questions. A lot of us have put a a bunch of time into making Sedona a great place to ride and you can't handle me asking some questions, what is that about?

    It is nice to get some input from riders to see what could have been done differently to make the riding experience better. If we did a good job on that section and nothing could have been done better than I can live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    There you go, TD, off the cliff again. Just when I was beginning the think you'd learned something. All I'm saying on this subject so as not to further jack the OPs thread. Nice pics, armourbl!
    We asked some locals about him, they think he's a nut job too.

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    I asked the local guy about Trailco*k, I mean Traildoc, and he just looked away with a kind of disgusted snarl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Eazy:

    That section you are walking I did a trail enhancement to so I could ride it 70% of the time. What I don't understand is why you guys aren't showing a picture of your group riding that difficult section with no dabs?

    It's GREAT to see you guys are having a good time. When are we going to see you guys RIDING the back side of Highline?
    TD, I am surprised by your comments here. These guys had what you call "a great user experience", they are really stoked about their ride and want to share their stoke with MTBR viewers regardless of what they walked or rode and what trails they were on. Why does the self-appointed banned ambassador have his panties in a wad when people achieve what he preaches his mission to be? You're being a Total D0u
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    TrailDoc,

    This is all that I'll say in reference to your question. I do appreciate everyone who has ever worked to make trails, maintain them, and improve them. That being said, this was my first time on this trail, as is true for I think everyone in our group with exception of maybe one rider. I really couldn't say that I analyzed the trail design enough or have the experience to give input on what was good or bad.

    At this stage in my riding development, I don't worry much about that kind of thing. If I see something that looks impossible to ride, I walk or hike my bike. Sometimes I'll comment about it to the people with me, but usually I'll just question how anyone can get through a given section cleanly and hope that someday maybe I will be able to as well.

    But, knowing that you rub people the wrong way frequently and also knowing that commenting in this thread would potential derail it, why not just do the right thing and PM me with your question. Taking it offline I'm sure you'd get a better result and wouldn't come off as trying to further your cause.

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    You guys should get up to flagstaff before it gets too cold. Ya'll would have a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    I asked the local guy about Trailco*k, I mean Traildoc, and he just looked away with a kind of disgusted snarl.
    Eazy:

    As long as you are having a good time in Sedona, I don't mind the personal attacks. If you are still enjoying Sedona by the time I get back maybe I can show you Something Different.

    Next time you come up you might consider the Dry Creek area and incorporating Chuck Wagon, Gunslinger, Mescal, Aerie, Western Civ, Last Frontier and Drano, Special Ed and Witch Doctor.

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    I think we all need to agree to never use the word "Sedona" in a thread title going forward. It just draws in the crap like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    I think we all need to agree to never use the word "Sedona" in a thread title going forward. It just draws in the crap like this.
    But we need a code word for it. How about "Nut House"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    eazy:

    As long as you are having a good time in sedona, i don't mind the personal attacks..
    bbbbuuullllllssshhhhiiiiitttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!11111
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    I think we all need to agree to never use the word "Sedona" in a thread title going forward. It just draws in the crap like this.
    Come on Phillbo man up. You were doing so good and now you are trying to dictate how MTBR members should do their posts, give us a break.

    Sedona is mentioned on a regular basis because it is a very unique place to ride. Due to my efforts and a select group of dedicated trail builders who are mountain bikers it is a mountain biking mecca. The sooner you accept that and help us get all the user built trails adopted the better off it will be.

    We are doing are part, now it's time you step-up and do something positive you can share with the mountain bike community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Come on Phillbo man up. You were doing so good and now you are trying to dictate how MTBR members should do their posts, give us a break.

    Sedona is mentioned on a regular basis because it is a very unique place to ride. Due to my efforts and a select group of dedicated trail builders who are mountain bikers it is a mountain biking mecca. The sooner you accept that and help us get all the user built trails adopted the better off it will be.

    We are doing are part, now it's time you step-up and do something positive you can share with the mountain bike community.
    If I lived closer I might have come out to help, but Sedona is too far away. And to be honest the trail isn't my still of riding so I wouldn't enjoy myself as much as other projects I enjoy working on.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    If I lived closer I might have come out to help, but Sedona is too far away. And to be honest the trail isn't my still of riding so I wouldn't enjoy myself as much as other projects I enjoy working on.
    OK CO I will take the bait. What other projects are you working on???????

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    Sigh.....

    Sedrama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    OK CO I will take the bait. What other projects are you working on???????
    I don't understand the question.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    I don't understand the question.
    CO, It doesn't surprise me.

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    Does anyone remember what this thread was originally about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotam7 View Post
    Does anyone remember what this thread was originally about?
    Yeah, the ruhtards see "Sedona" and it's like a moth to a flame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    You guys should get up to flagstaff before it gets too cold. Ya'll would have a blast.
    I'm headed to Flag this weekend to tour the Lumberjack campus with my daughter, hoping to get in a ride but I think the school has a pretty jam-packed day planned out. We shall see.

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    Thanks for the videos Ben.
    I'll have a couple ready to post up in the coming days.

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    Favorite part

    So what was your favorite ride?
    Me to my riding buddy, "Want to ride this afternoon?"
    Him, "I can't. I have to chop this guys foot off at 2".

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    Broken Arrow is my fave, but Slim Shady from Bike and Bean is a good one too.

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    I couldn't tell you what my favorite section was, and likely couldn't even name the trails we rode. I have only been riding for 3 months or so, and hadn't really ridden a bike since I was 14 or 15. Definitely my 1st time riding or hiking in Sedona.
    What I will say, is the trails were a lot of fun and had many challenging sections. I was proud of some of the sections I cleaned, and can't wait to ride the trails again with the opportunity to clean even more of the trail.
    I was a little disappointed we rode the street back at the end of the morning ride, however, we had the chance to talk with a cool local rider at the end of the day and gained some trail route advice for next time.

    Challenging and technical trails, and a good group of people made for a great day of riding.

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    Of course, the cold Blue Moon after 23 miles of trail riding wasn't too bad either!

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