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    Which recovery product do you use? For hard xc/road people. Not so much DH or enduro

    Not to be a ****** so don't take this the wrong way. I'm looking for opinions from xc racers or roadies that put in sustained effort (without rest/shuttles/gravity) over a period over AT LEAST 90 minutes. I know that downhilling requires burst energy...blah blah blah, I don't care. Need people that push hard on the bike for a long time please. Move along if this hurts your feelings. Pretend you're going downhill and go away quickly.

    Which recovery product do most of you use after race pace rides with climbing or major sustained hammering in this HEAT? I've been using Endurox R4 for a month, but I'm not thrilled with it.

    This is a serious post and so I'm not looking for beer or weed suggestions please.

    Thanks much.

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    I've started to use a Prograde product called Prograde Workout. www.bikejames.com recommends this so thats why I have started to use it. I do sustained efforts for 90-120 minutes where my heart rate is at 155-165 the entire time so I feel I am definitely pushing it. Now, I really can't tell you if the product is helping a great deal or not. I have just gotten into this sport with any sort of seriousness around 2 years ago so I have been changing all sorts of things in my life to improve my performance so I can't define exactly whats helping and what isn't. I can say I am making steady gains in performance so maybe it is helping.

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    you hurt my feelings...i'm gonna not go shave my legs or not wash my spandex now

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    Sounds like you may have a case of Scurvy

    I sense a little hostility in your post Mr. Doger. This could be because vitamin C deficiency caused by getting only protien in your diet during your long sustained efforts at Papago.

    You should get fruit in your diet. This will prevent Scurvy .

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    chocolate milk and fruit as JohnniO says.

    I'm also a fan of this although I think it serves a different purpose that what you're after, I would think:

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    Switching to Marlboro Lights has helped me quite a bit.

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    This post is insensitive.
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    Lately I've been partial to Dales Pale Ale...and I'm being serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    This post is insensitive.
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    I use hamburgers.
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    its not really touted as a recovery drink, but 2 little scoops of Labrada supercharge kick my ass into high gear for several hours..

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    its not really touted as a recovery drink, but 2 little scoops of Labrada supercharge kick my ass into high gear for several hours..
    is that free when you buy this?

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    So far, nothing has been shown to be more effective than good ol' chocolate milk for recovery. Basically, all you need is the proper % of protein, fat, and carbohydrate, and chocolate milk gives you that.

    http://www.askmen.com/top_10/fitness...ness_list.html
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/152240.php

    If you don't like chocolate milk, there are other options you can find in your refrigerator or pantry that are as good or better than pricey sports drinks: peanut butter and honey sandwich, bean and cheese burrito, etc.

    For recovery from sore legs from overdoing a workout, I like to down some Sports Legs and take an epson salt bath. I also know that ice baths speed up recovery immensely...if you can tolerate it.

    Thx...Doug

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    Wow, great articles Doug...and it's available at any convenience store.

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    Why would we ever think you are an a******? I can't imagine you asking this question in a more polite way. Anywho.....for recovery I prefer beer and weed.



    Oh, and maybe you could try this. It really helps with getting out all of those post ride toxins.
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    My personal favorite is to down half a Gatorade then fill it with water and continue to drink 50-50 mix Gatorade to absorb electrolytes and a little sodium like trail mix usually replenishes what my body used while excercising and then have a nice post workout chocolate protein shake as well just so I don't feel to weak the rest of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olie12
    My personal favorite is to down half a Gatorade then fill it with water and continue to drink 50-50 mix Gatorade to absorb electrolytes and a little sodium like trail mix usually replenishes what my body used while excercising and then have a nice post workout chocolate protein shake as well just so I don't feel to weak the rest of the day.
    do you add any caffeine to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgangi
    So far, nothing has been shown to be more effective than good ol' chocolate milk for recovery. Basically, all you need is the proper % of protein, fat, and carbohydrate, and chocolate milk gives you that.
    Not a fan of Chocolate Milk. How about Strawberry Milk? Love that..

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    I have to throw my vote in for chocolate milk as well. I down a pint of that and coconut water. perks me right back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size
    do you add any caffeine to that?
    Honestly I try to stay away of caffeine post work out mostly because it usually hurts my stomach. But caffeine is a good pre workout and often used during workout supplement with moderation of course. Just look at supplements like accelerade it has caffeine in it to drink during excercise.
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    One last comment...and this is somewhat scary...but Consumer Reports recently conducted a series of tests against some popular protein/recovery drinks from 10 different manufacturers and *all* of them contained traces of heavy metals (lead, mercury, cadmium, etc). 4 of them were *way* over the FDA standard. I don't recall what brands flunked, but I do recall that CytoSport was in that list (makers of Muscle Milk and CytoMax drinks).

    There is *no* regulation in the "supplement" market (which these drinks fall under), so companies are left to police themselves. Apparently they aren't doing such a good job, which can have serious ramifications to your health.

    So don't gulp down those fancy drinks thinking they are what they claim they are. After reading that story, I am more a believer in using normal foods for recovery.

    Thx...Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size
    is that free when you buy this?

    okay, let me state my official position on this matter:
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    newer bands pretending to be old hair bands = supergay
    being self employed and still having your metal hair since eighth grade 22 years ago = priceless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgangi
    One last comment...and this is somewhat scary...but Consumer Reports recently conducted a series of tests against some popular protein/recovery drinks from 10 different manufacturers and *all* of them contained traces of heavy metals (lead, mercury, cadmium, etc). 4 of them were *way* over the FDA standard. I don't recall what brands flunked, but I do recall that CytoSport was in that list (makers of Muscle Milk and CytoMax drinks).

    There is *no* regulation in the "supplement" market (which these drinks fall under), so companies are left to police themselves. Apparently they aren't doing such a good job, which can have serious ramifications to your health.

    So don't gulp down those fancy drinks thinking they are what they claim they are. After reading that story, I am more a believer in using normal foods for recovery.

    Thx...Doug
    is that pre or post 1993 heavy metals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    okay, let me state my official position on this matter:
    old hair bands that gracefully retired after 1993 = still cool
    newer bands pretending to be old hair bands = supergay
    being self employed and still having your metal hair since eighth grade 22 years ago = priceless
    don't think i was knocking you with that pic - the supplement colors reminded me of 80's metal and that pic was the first hair band album cover i found that looked similar, and since you're into hair bands i ran with it.

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    i pray for recovery.

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    Beer - that is always my post race recovery routine. Actually, lots of beer, thats why I race - because of the beer

    90 minute ride? Nothing... an effort that short really should not require anything. Maybe just drink some water or something

    A hard ride? Normally just eat a meal and drink a bunch of water. I should think about some kind of post ride routine... but I think it is more important to ensure you are eating throughout the ride then trying to stack a bunch of junk in afterwards...

    BTW - I am a racer and a roadie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Dude, I would eat the ****** out of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    That's being sensitive toward others! Bacon and processed sugar post for us with CKD and Diabetes to drool over. What next, suggesting Man Versa Food as an after dinner program.
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    Wow Rogerdodger, way to be a dick. If you really were after a "serious post" you probably would have gotten your request across just fine if you would have asked something like "Hey XC/ roadies, what recover drink do you prefer blah blah blah?"

    In fact, the mere mention of "DH or enduro" in the thread title makes it's painfully obvious that you wanted to attract the DH'ers comments.

    So, now that some of us are here, what do you really want to say?
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    Instead of "recovery" try thinking "refueling". Your body is best able to process whatever you ingest withing the first 90 minutes or so after your ride. Chocolate milk is good because of the vitamins and protien. The sugar from the choco gives a quick boost, but not sustained. I prefer to eat something somewhat good for me along with any kind of fluid. Sometimes it is choco milk, a pepsi, some donuts or even a "recovery drink". I think the key is to find something that YOU like, that won't affect YOUR stomach, and still has some redeeming qualities to it. Mix it up so you do it. I used to be into all the powders and stuff- but they get old pretty quick.

    If your motivation to ride 90 or longer is to lose weight- stick to non sugars, water and mineral rich foods. I weigh 140lbs- so I eat whatever the hell I want! Oh- and I read that article about the heavy metals in fitness mixes. Just another reason to save our money, buy real food and stay away from the snake oil.
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    Fixed.

    Which recovery product do you use? For hardcore DH/FR people. Not so much xc or roadies.

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    Not to be a ****** so don't take this the wrong way. I'm looking for opinions from DH racers or Freeriders that have sack and put in sustained effort(without dismounting for every babyhead in the trail) over drops and hucks that disintegrate XC bikes. I know that XC requires endurance...blah blah blah, I don't care. Need people that Shred and Flow on the bike over any terrain without peeing themselves please. Move along if this hurts your feelings. Pretend you're sandbagging your next XC race to finish top five and go away quickly.

    Which recovery product do most of you use after actually having fun on a bike in this HEAT? I've been using Bluemoon for a month, but I'm not thrilled with it.

    This is a joke and so I'm hoping I don't get flamed.
    Thanks much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jusflo
    Fixed.

    Which recovery product do you use? For hardcore DH/FR people. Not so much xc or roadies.

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    Not to be a ****** so don't take this the wrong way. I'm looking for opinions from DH racers or Freeriders that have sack and put in sustained effort(without dismounting for every babyhead in the trail) over drops and hucks that disintegrate XC bikes. I know that XC requires endurance...blah blah blah, I don't care. Need people that Shred and Flow on the bike over any terrain without peeing themselves please. Move along if this hurts your feelings. Pretend you're sandbagging your next XC race to finish top five and go away quickly.

    Which recovery product do most of you use after actually having fun on a bike in this HEAT? I've been using Bluemoon for a month, but I'm not thrilled with it.

    This is a joke and so I'm hoping I don't get flamed.
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    This is a great thread, thanks for the post. I was given about $200 of Hammer products to try out and I think they are great. I hope someone gives me another $200 in the future.

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    Recovery Potion

    I get this stuff from an old man who lives in a mud hut on top of Camelback. I don't think it's FDA approved, but for ten bucks and a couple of risque hiker pics I think I'm the one who got the deal....
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    Banana and lime green gatorade. and then a beer. Anyone else experience diahrea after drinkin a whole bottle of gatorade post ride?
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    note to self: do not carpool with azdog...

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    note to self: do not carpool with azdog...
    He has a truck. He can ride in the back with the other Dogs! Bet he will even stick his head over the side rail and catch some air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    note to self: do not carpool with azdog...
    LOL! Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog
    Banana and lime green gatorade. and then a beer. Anyone else experience diahrea after drinkin a whole bottle of gatorade post ride?
    I dunno, but the last thing I need after a ride is a few cups of high fructose corn syrup.
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    Hmmm...I am not sure if I am qualified to answer. My ride is about 60 minutes of uphill, then 30 min of really steep uphill, then a rest, then 45 min of splendid downhill fun!

    The climbing hammers my legs pretty hard, so recovery is critical just to avoid hobbling around whining all day. It is also vital to reload glycogen stores in that first 2 hours or so after the ride. I am after easily absorbed protien (free-form and branched chain amino acids) for muscle repair, and lots of complex carbohydrates to restock glycogen. For the protien, I have been getting great results from Met Max by Champion Nutrition. For the carbs, well there are all sorts of whole grain breads and cereals available these days. Find something that tastes good! The current wisdom seems to be a 4 to 1 ratio of complex carbs to protien. That can be a lot of cereal.

    Chocolate milk is a great drink, but I would not consider it a recovery drink, at least not by itself, if at all. I don't need the fat, and the carbs are all simple sugars, which will put me hypoglycemic before I can drink very much. On top of that it is very hard for me to digest, so it ends up producing major amounts of gaseous emissions.

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    you get to ride with azdog then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    you get to ride with azdog then.
    ...then you had better put that cigar out before you get too close.
    ...uphill uphill uphill DOWNHILL! uphill uphill uphill uphill DOWNHILL! uphill ...

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    Hammer Recoverite when I think to pick some up at the LBS. I am going to try the Chocolate milk as some suggest and see how that works.

    I tried a Gatorade "Recovery Drink" 2 weeks ago and projectile vomited with in 20 minutes of consumption! SKIP THAT CRAP!

    Beer works too, maybe a good IPA?!

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    Shamrok Farms makes Rockin Refuel chocolate drink and cost the same as regular choco drink. It has less crapp and more good stuff then reg choco. Just FYI.
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