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    Quasi-AZSF Sonoran Trails Ride on Saturday AM

    If it's too hot for you to do the PP -> Kelvin shuttle ride on Sat, or if you're just getting back on the bike after three months off due to shoulder surgery and need nice, smooth, flowy, non-technical riding, perhaps the Sonoran Trails are for you!

    Of course, I can't help you with that, because I know nothing about these trails. But CoyoteKis (Deanna) and I are going to give it a shot on Saturday morning. It would be nice to collect a group of like-minded souls to explore these trails. Bonus points (and beer) to anyone who actually knows their way around, and can play tour guide, so we don't get lost and die some horrible death out in the desert.

    Start time: No idea, but sooner rather than later, since it will be warm. Let's say 8 am...

    Starting point: No idea, since I don't know these trails (see above request for a tour guide)

    Ride length: No idea

    Ride time: No idea

    So...WHO WANTS TO JOIN US?!

    (Entry fee is waived if you can play Tour Guide, and answer all of the above questions...)


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    Quasi-AZSF Sonoran Trails Ride on Saturday AM

    Sure, I'm in ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis View Post
    Sure, I'm in ;-)
    As long as you empty the dishwasher and finish the vacuuming...


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    Hey
    I think I'm in
    I've missed the Gold Canyon ride today, don't want to miss this one.

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    About the route - I know one on the north side, about 10 miles long.
    All trails on the south side are marked and there is a good map.
    Have not found a trail to connect north to south yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz View Post
    If it's too hot for you to do the PP -> Kelvin shuttle ride on Sat, or if you're just getting back on the bike after three months off due to shoulder surgery and need nice, smooth, flowy, non-technical riding, perhaps the Sonoran Trails are for you!

    Of course, I can't help you with that, because I know nothing about these trails. But CoyoteKis (Deanna) and I are going to give it a shot on Saturday morning. It would be nice to collect a group of like-minded souls to explore these trails. Bonus points (and beer) to anyone who actually knows their way around, and can play tour guide, so we don't get lost and die some horrible death out in the desert.

    Start time: No idea, but sooner rather than later, since it will be warm. Let's say 8 am...

    Starting point: No idea, since I don't know these trails (see above request for a tour guide)

    Ride length: No idea

    Ride time: No idea

    So...WHO WANTS TO JOIN US?!

    (Entry fee is waived if you can play Tour Guide, and answer all of the above questions...)


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    I can't join, but I can get you started.

    I know of two entry points. One at Carefree Hwy and 7th and one on the south side - more info here: Official Site of the City of Phoenix - Sonoran Preserve

    Attached is a track of a ramble that Seron took us on a while ago. It hooks together the north and south sections. Some good grunting climbs and lots of fun, smooth trail.Sonoran Mountain Park big loop.gpx

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    Walt are you and CK still doing this ride on Saturday? If yes, then count me like-minded and I'll tag along too. Unfortunately, I'll have to sacrifice the bonus points and pay the "entry fee" because I'm not familiar with the trails either. Please post up the time and trailhead and I'll be there. I can start any time, but early is better than later for me.

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    Quasi-AZSF Sonoran Trails Ride on Saturday AM

    Bob, we are on for sure. Will post up a place and time tomorrow...


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    I would love to play tour guide, but I'm doing Fat Tire 40 on Sunday...taking it easy on Saturday. Use the 7th Street trail head on Carefree Hwy and you will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Use the 7th Street trail head on Carefree Hwy and you will be fine.
    Where from there? Is it easy to follow some sort of route? And no, I haven't looked at maps yet and tried to figure out a route...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Nice; thanks! So starting at 7th St. and Carefree Hwy will put us into the northern trails. Which direction is recommended, CW or CCW? Start on Ocotillo, and back on Sidewinder, or the other way around...?
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    Ocotillo around to sidewinder clockwise. You will run into some good climbs that way.

    I come in from my house on Sonoran Paseo which is the future bike path that is under construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Ocotillo around to sidewinder clockwise. You will run into some good climbs that way.
    In looking at the map, wouldn't Ocotillo -> Sidewinder be counterclockwise? (At least in this hemisphere)


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    Yes....you are correct. Counter-clockwise....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Yes....you are correct. Counter-clockwise....
    So CCW > CW, in your opinion...?


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    Yeah, for Ocotillo, it really doesn't matter, but Sidewinder is better that way in my opinion. That's the only way we ride it.

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    Walt, been wanting to check this area out. What time are you guys rolling at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycljunkie View Post
    Walt, been wanting to check this area out. What time are you guys rolling at?
    8 am FIP, but with the Deanna-factor, probably closer to 8:15...;-)

    I think Dave is planning on it too...

    So for all who are interested:
    Start time: 8 am FIP
    Where: Parking area at 7th Ave and Carefree Hwy (just south of Carefree Hwy)
    Route: Northern loop CCW: Ocotillo -> Sidewinder, with maybe a few diversions to explore the middle

    Easy, social pace...explore and have fun!
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    Be aware of the Tour de Cure Saturday AM. Most of the routes will come across Carefree hwy between 9 and 1. Will have to try this ccw, mostly do it cw coming in at central. Have fun.

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    Re: Quasi-AZSF Sonoran Trails Ride on Saturday AM

    Okay, count me in.

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    Count me in, Dennis.
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    I ride these trails night and day.

    Doing the north part by itself is not worth the drive IMO. The loop (CW) by itself would taking you under 2 hours.

    How much climbing can you do?
    How many miles do you want to do?

    I would recommend this:

    Mountain Bike Ride Profile | Mar 11, 2013 Tour de Sonoran near | Times and Records | Strava

    it should take around 3 hours. There is another two peaks you can climb in the north - one small and one big if you want to extend it.

    I would recommend south side (fireside development) parking - it's more private and it's a real parking lot not a patch of dirt. Probably a lot safer too.

    I could take you from there tomorrow but 8 is too early for me. 9am would be better.
    You don't need a whole day for that trip, plus in case of emergency there is a lot of bail out spots for car pick up- I know them all.

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    Quasi-AZSF Sonoran Trails Ride on Saturday AM

    Thanks, metal, but we'll just stick to the northern loop CCW, and kind of go from there. A couple hours is fine by us, as we're exploring new-to-us trails. Maybe we'll run into you, and you can show us around a bit!


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    How many miles are you guy's planning on doing? Might join in. I ride these trails regularly.

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