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    PSA for snow birds.

    I've used my horn 3 times this week. I know for a fact 2 were elderly drivers, and one had an Alberta license plate. One of the elderly drivers ran a red left turn arrow in an F-250 towing a ~20' long (empty) trailer.

    Please consider that some year round Phoenix residents enjoy being alive, and injury free.
    You drive worse than teenagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaseSpace168 View Post
    I've used my horn 3 times this week.
    Give 'em hell

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    they need to have a little flip-down thing on the speed limit signs that say "that's not KMPH!!"

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    Cool, it's evasive driving season again!
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    the worst part of it is that most of them arent even GILFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaseSpace168 View Post
    I've used my horn 3 times this week. I know for a fact 2 were elderly drivers, and one had an Alberta license plate. One of the elderly drivers ran a red left turn arrow in an F-250 towing a ~20' long (empty) trailer.

    Please consider that some year round Phoenix residents enjoy being alive, and injury free.
    You drive worse than teenagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaseSpace168 View Post
    the worst part of it is that most of them arent even GILFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post


    I was just wondering about this. There's a lot of Canadians in Arizona, especially permanent residents. Why is that? The news assures me that Canada is the Shangri-La of the western world. Everything is free, especially the medical care. Free, free, free, free as the air you breathe. They have "common sense" gun control. Canada is everything America isn't, and oh, so much better. Why would anybody give that up to come to AZ?

    I mean, medical care isn't free, far from it. They actually expect you to pay for it.

    Guns? Constitutional carry and all that. I bet most northern "intellectuals" would have a conniption if they found out that it's not only quick and easy to buy a gun in AZ, you can actually carry it too, and without permission from Big Brother.

    Sheriff Joe? He's probably up there with George Bush and Adolph Hitler for the amount of effigies burned. Enforcing the laws is racist and makes you a horrible person, don'tchaknow?

    So really, why do people leave paradise in the western world and come to a place with expensive medical care, a bunch of rednecks with guns, and a Sheriff that hates minorities? The news didn't deceive me all these years, right?

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    Because it's warm in the winter.

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    yep not only that but with school classes going on....traffic gets congested. Everytime I leave from work, there is a snowbird driving in the left lane down scottsdale road going less than the speed limit. Its ridiculous

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    It's good for the economy.. I played a round of Golf this afternoon and the majority of the people I encountered spoke with a German accent.

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    You guys are not alone. Florida is overrun with them at this time of year. They seem nice enough , but I drive a lot during the day, and they are a menace. Mostly Ontario plates here.
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    I am thinking none of them will read this...

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    i like being able to walk into ikea and hearing english instead of polish...

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    Amen. My mornin commute has been more hellish lately.

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    Do I count as a snowbird if I only ride down there in the winter? My car has an AZ plate but its a 96 outback full of dudes in flannel shirts and un-leashed dogs.

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    At least three times a week there's a head on collision, that won't be my fault, if I want it. That's w/o the blue-hairs.
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    Wrong location for such a PSA. Need to make flyers and post them here:
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    Doubt your PSA will be seen by the right crowd...think this more of I wanna vent than a PSA
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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    i like being able to walk into ikea and hearing english instead of polish...

    really?

    too much polish...

    mein kampf much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Because it's warm in the winter.
    You win.

    What do you win?

    Sunlight in the winter time.

    There's a reason they are called "snowbirds". A good number of em migrate between Prescott and the Valley, so when they aren't down there, they're up in P-town, trying to ram through the new barriers on highway 69. You get used to it. I have to wonder though, when you get real old and drive, is it like driving drunk? Is that how it feels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    really?

    too much polish...

    mein kampf much?
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    Ha! The last of the summer folks rolled out about a month ago. Now it's time for people who think they can drive in the snow - when its the first time they've ever seen it. Whatever, life in a tourist state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I have to wonder though, when you get real old and drive, is it like driving drunk? Is that how it feels?
    I wonder this myself. I can't stand senior citizen drivers that get on the highway and drive below the speed limit. One of the biggest annoyances in my universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richgsr View Post
    I wonder this myself. I can't stand senior citizen drivers that get on the highway and drive below the speed limit. One of the biggest annoyances in my universe.
    First world problems.......

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    Maybe by the time some of you guys get old and your senses start deteriorating they will have passed some laws to keep you off the road. I don't find it any less irritating driving behind a distracted younger driver, do you? And lets face it some people never become good drivers. Ok fire away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    i like being able to walk into ikea and hearing english instead of polish...

    IKEA


    The land of the walking dead...I got talked in to going into that store once and will never set foot in it again...Having to follow that path and no way to just turn around and walk out is crazy stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    IKEA


    The land of the walking dead...I got talked in to going into that store once and will never set foot in it again...Having to follow that path and no way to just turn around and walk out is crazy stuff
    there's tons of shortcuts,, you just ain't see;n 'em


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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Do I count as a snowbird if I only ride down there in the winter? My car has an AZ plate but its a 96 outback full of dudes in flannel shirts and un-leashed dogs.
    Huh? I thought Snowbirds were the people from the valley who ignore the chains or 4wd only sign on Snowbowl road in their 2wd Escalade on 22's. Love those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RV2011 View Post
    Maybe by the time some of you guys get old and your senses start deteriorating they will have passed some laws to keep you off the road. I don't find it any less irritating driving behind a distracted younger driver, do you? And lets face it some people never become good drivers. Ok fire away.
    Ha! Great point. I hope to drive until I am super old. The old guys driving get all the chicks in the old folks homes. Reverts back to those that have cars, like in high school. You will see them driving around. One old guy with the huge sun glasses and 3 or 4 old ladies with them.

    Snowbirds or not, driving in AZ is way better than driving in CA, or anywhere in the Northeast. Or how about anywhere south of the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RV2011 View Post
    Maybe by the time some of you guys get old and your senses start deteriorating they will have passed some laws to keep you off the road. I don't find it any less irritating driving behind a distracted younger driver, do you? And lets face it some people never become good drivers. Ok fire away.
    I would hope so....especially if my senses deteriorated to the point of becoming a danger to those around me. Not saying that the run-of-the-mill Snowbirds fit into that category... I think most of the them are on vacation, taking it easy, and seeing the sights...

    ...at 5 MPH....

    ...on the 101...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richgsr View Post
    I wonder this myself. I can't stand senior citizen drivers that get on the highway and drive below the speed limit. One of the biggest annoyances in my universe.
    Rich:

    Many people drive under the speed limit to conserve energy. I myself drive 5 miles under the freeway speed limit to save energy. Most people are conditioned to drive fast to their destination, and it is virtually impossible for them to drive at a slower speed.

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    I used to get quite upset at slow old drivers but now that I'm on the plus side of 40 years old I have come to realize I will someday be one of them so I try my hardest to understand the issues they have.

    You just gotta lighten up and realize that a slow driver will cost you no more than a few seconds to your destination. Make peace with it and you'll have a better day.

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    We'll have cars that drive themselves by the time we get old. No need to worry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    We'll have cars that drive themselves by the time we get old. No need to worry!
    Lets' hope so. You do realize by the next time you come back to AZ you yourself will be a snowbird.

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    Mrs. Tjkm is Canadian. Allow me to shed some light.......

    Although my beautiful bride has lived here since the late 80's, went to high school here, college, etc, she still has some strong feelings for the great white north. All of her relatives live there, and in fact, I have spent the last 10 years going 'up there' for a few weeks each summer to hang out at the cottage, drink tons of canadian beer and canoe on the lake. In fact, I am drinking a Molson as I write this.

    Canada loves the US, but they view them selves as the more hip, sophisticated kid in the class. They 'get it" while we (USA) 'think' we get it.

    Our down economy has corresponded to some robust times for canadians. Aunt & Uncle have a time share here and a place in FL and love coming to the states for a visit. They are wonderful people (my extended family) and I love going up to visit. When I do visit, I pay $40 for a case of beer at the government run liquor store after I have run out of the $20 case I purchased at the Duty Free shop at the border. So yes, health care, extended maternity leave (think it is a year!) and other things are paid for, but be ready to throw down some $ for your everyday expenses. GST, PST and some other duties make for an expensive visit.

    This is why AZ is so appealing to the canadians, it is like they are living for half price when they are here! My neighbor lives in Toronto and spends the winter here, she just arrived two weeks ago. She owns her house and has had painters, a cabinet guy and a tile guy working the place since she got here. Putting some locals to work and spending some $$.

    My wife, if you are still reading this post, loves AZ and really does call it home. But, for a few weeks each summer, she goes back to her roots and we have a great time with the crazy canadian side of the family, eh?!

    However, no cover shall be provided by me for poor driving, or poor trail manners by my great white north friends! They know better!!

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    This is why AZ is so appealing to the canadians, it is like they are living for half price when they are here!
    That may be the case currently but economic tides ebb and flow. It was just a short time ago that pro athletes hated playing for Canadian teams (read NHL hockey players and 1 or two NBA franchises and MLB teams) b/c they suffered financially. It will come around again..and again.

    Are there any good strip clubs in Canada... that allow handguns and slow drivers? That's really the determining factor. The rest is just fluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkm View Post
    Mrs. Tjkm is Canadian. Allow me to shed some light.......

    Although my beautiful bride has lived here since the late 80's, went to high school here, college, etc, she still has some strong feelings for the great white north. All of her relatives live there, and in fact, I have spent the last 10 years going 'up there' for a few weeks each summer to hang out at the cottage, drink tons of canadian beer and canoe on the lake. In fact, I am drinking a Molson as I write this.

    Canada loves the US, but they view them selves as the more hip, sophisticated kid in the class. They 'get it" while we (USA) 'think' we get it.

    Our down economy has corresponded to some robust times for canadians. Aunt & Uncle have a time share here and a place in FL and love coming to the states for a visit. They are wonderful people (my extended family) and I love going up to visit. When I do visit, I pay $40 for a case of beer at the government run liquor store after I have run out of the $20 case I purchased at the Duty Free shop at the border. So yes, health care, extended maternity leave (think it is a year!) and other things are paid for, but be ready to throw down some $ for your everyday expenses. GST, PST and some other duties make for an expensive visit.

    This is why AZ is so appealing to the canadians, it is like they are living for half price when they are here! My neighbor lives in Toronto and spends the winter here, she just arrived two weeks ago. She owns her house and has had painters, a cabinet guy and a tile guy working the place since she got here. Putting some locals to work and spending some $$.

    My wife, if you are still reading this post, loves AZ and really does call it home. But, for a few weeks each summer, she goes back to her roots and we have a great time with the crazy canadian side of the family, eh?!

    However, no cover shall be provided by me for poor driving, or poor trail manners by my great white north friends! They know better!!
    Agreed. I'm originally from the far northeast in Canada. All political opinions aside, that is the happiest, most relaxing place. People seldomly lock their doors. Most people are always just calm and in great moods. As much as I enjoy AZ, I would also be very happy living there again. But the snow..... US and Canada, both great places to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonnemb View Post
    Agreed. I'm originally from the far northeast in Canada. All political opinions aside, that is the happiest, most relaxing place. People seldomly lock their doors. Most people are always just calm and in great moods. As much as I enjoy AZ, I would also be very happy living there again. But the snow..... US and Canada, both great places to live.
    People don't lock their doors?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy_E View Post
    People don't lock their doors?

    Yeah that's pretty funny. Well played sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonnemb View Post
    Agreed. I'm originally from the far northeast in Canada. All political opinions aside, that is the happiest, most relaxing place. People seldomly lock their doors. Most people are always just calm and in great moods. As much as I enjoy AZ, I would also be very happy living there again. But the snow..... US and Canada, both great places to live.
    Funny with the door locks. We locked the cottage door one night before going to bed, and had a family member come over early the next morning, just dropping in for coffee. When she found the door locked, she left as we were still sleeping.

    SHe came back around lunch to visit, and gave us a good teasing for locking the door. They just don't do it (at least in cottage country) unless they are going to be gone for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    i like being able to walk into ikea and hearing english instead of polish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaseSpace168 View Post
    Coincidentally this video containing literal snow birds was in the recommended videos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Rich:

    Many people drive under the speed limit to conserve energy. I myself drive 5 miles under the freeway speed limit to save energy. Most people are conditioned to drive fast to their destination, and it is virtually impossible for them to drive at a slower speed.
    Traildoc,

    I don't mind slow drivers. It's slow drivers that INSIST on driving on the left lane that annoys me. I understand the desire to conserve energy/gas, but don't become a nuisance to the others that don't wish to and clog up the faster lanes.

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