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    PSA - Forest Closures beginning 5/23

    For those not following the Fire Restrictions thread, the time we've been dreading has arrived. Here is the text that the ATA sent out:


    The Coconino National Forest announced Friday that portions of the forest will close to visitation due to extreme wildfire danger beginning Wednesday, May 23. Forest closures affect trails, campgrounds, roads, and all recreational activities within the closure areas. Closures include the Mogollon Rim Ranger District and portions of the Flagstaff Ranger District, including the Kachina Peaks Wilderness. This impacts portions of most of the Arizona Trail passages between Blue Ridge and Babbitt Ranch.

    For maps and details of the specific closure areas, click here.
    More closures are anticipated on the Tonto and Kaibab National Forests, and possibly the Coronado. Until it rains and wildfire danger is reduced, the forest(s) will be off-limits to all visitation. Violating closures carries a mandatory appearance in federal court, punishable as a Class B misdemeanor with a fine of up to $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or up to six months in prison, or both.
    For further information about fire restrictions in the Coconino National Forest, please call the Fire Restriction Hotline at 928-226-4607.
    Before you travel this summer, check the current restrictions and observe all forest closures and fire restrictions. We all need to work together to protect our forests from catastrophic fires and ensure public safety during this summer, which has been described as the potentially most volatile wildfire season in recent history.

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    Jeff et al, from someone who doesn't know the Flagstaff-area trails very well, what high-country areas, if any, will remain open for riding? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz View Post
    Jeff et al, from someone who doesn't know the Flagstaff-area trails very well, what high-country areas, if any, will remain open for riding? Thanks!
    Ray knows Flag way better than me. He is working on rerouting the aspen aes to get around this.

    However I notice this ban does not go below the Mogollon Rim. Highline from 260 trailhead was great weather wise this weekend. The trail is much improved for the first 12 miles or so, but still lots of Hab after.

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    MAP of closure areas

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtownmtb View Post
    Ray knows Flag way better than me. He is working on rerouting the aspen aes to get around this.

    However I notice this ban does not go below the Mogollon Rim. Highline from 260 trailhead was great weather wise this weekend. The trail is much improved for the first 12 miles or so, but still lots of Hab after.
    Anything in the Dry Lake Hills (Schultz Pass, jedi, bookbank, sunset, etc), Elden (Hobbit, wasabi, upper sunset, etc.) or Ft. Valley (moto, AZT, Newham, Secret, rocky, etc) areas will be closed. AZT from town boundary all the way north to FR418 will be closed. FR418/AZT intersection is where a lot of folks start the out and back on the AZT to check out the aspen (from vehicle, South to Aspen Corner, turn Back to vehicle at FR418).

    So in short...all of the singletrack riding you are used to doing in Flagstaff outside the Ft. Tuthill area is closed. Gravel grinding outside those areas on FRs is about all we have left right now as long as it's not in the closure area.

    Having said that..there is a fine gravel grind route from Town through Mars Hill, government prairie, A1 Mountain, Wing Mountain to Kendrick Mountain and back that I hit often when I want to listen to a few Phish shows back to back.




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    Well f*uck, there goes two of the areas I was planning on riding on my vacay.

    Plan B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    AZT from town boundary all the way north to FR418 will be closed. FR418/AZT intersection is where a lot of folks start the out and back on the AZT to check out the aspen (from vehicle, South to Aspen Corner, turn Back to vehicle at FR418).
    In another thread, someone asked if FR418 was open since it marks the northern boundary of the closure. After talking with USFS folks during the trail work day this past weekend, I was told that FR418 will be closed. To ride the AZT section north of FR418, for example, will require accessing it from FR514 in Kendrick Park. Not a bad choice, actually. Head south for a few miles to FR418, or north to Utah.

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    So I guess FR 151 will be closed except for residents?

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    Alot of the tonto also. No map yet. By description is all of mt. Ord /4 peaks and most everything north of 260. I suspect globe is next however since the burned the piss out of the mountain it may not be seen as a major risk. https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...d=FSEPRD580925
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    Still,some high school drop out will light a fire and burn the joint down. Sad

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    Just curious of the PHX folks on this forum - how does someone get news about the forest closures outside of this forum? Is it all over the news? If you don't watch local news or the paper (assuming it's covered there heavily), how will folks find out that camping/recreation plans for the areas discussed are closed? Are they putting up electronic signs just outside of PHX/Anthem similar to the ones you see entering FLG saying no fires?

    I was talking to a friend with CCSD SAR and he said they're being asked to pull duty to patrol/enforce the closure...we remarked it's prolly going to be a bit of a cluster around town on Friday/Saturday when folks head up here and then realize things are closed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Just curious of the PHX folks on this forum - how does someone get news about the forest closures outside of this forum? Is it all over the news? If you don't watch local news or the paper (assuming it's covered there heavily), how will folks find out that camping/recreation plans for the areas discussed are closed? Are they putting up electronic signs just outside of PHX/Anthem similar to the ones you see entering FLG saying no fires?

    I was talking to a friend with CCSD SAR and he said they're being asked to pull duty to patrol/enforce the closure...we remarked it's prolly going to be a bit of a cluster around town on Friday/Saturday when folks head up here and then realize things are closed.
    They usually have the big light-up signs indicating fire restrictions / closures on the way out of town. I follow all the Arizona NF pages on facepage so all the updates get posted there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Just curious of the PHX folks on this forum - how does someone get news about the forest closures outside of this forum? Is it all over the news? If you don't watch local news or the paper (assuming it's covered there heavily), how will folks find out that camping/recreation plans for the areas discussed are closed? Are they putting up electronic signs just outside of PHX/Anthem similar to the ones you see entering FLG saying no fires?

    I was talking to a friend with CCSD SAR and he said they're being asked to pull duty to patrol/enforce the closure...we remarked it's prolly going to be a bit of a cluster around town on Friday/Saturday when folks head up here and then realize things are closed.
    yeah, communication of this is a real issue. i got the news here first, then from a message from the Arizona Trail Association.

    We were up at Horton Springs campground this weekend and the host there was not aware of the closure. I predict major fustercluck.

    Sadly, we saw the start of he Potato fire on the way home.
    https://www.abc15.com/news/region-no...d-human-caused

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    I also found out here but have been spreading the word to people I know who camp and explore the outdoors frequently.

    Tonto closures are unclear however. Is bollow the Mogollon Rim still open? I was hoping to take my son on his first backpacking trip to Horton Spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyham View Post
    I also found out here but have been spreading the word to people I know who camp and explore the outdoors frequently.

    Tonto closures are unclear however. Is bollow the Mogollon Rim still open? I was hoping to take my son on his first backpacking trip to Horton Spring.
    Does not look like it.
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...d=FSEPRD580925

    All Tonto National Forest Land north of Payson to the Forest boundary (Mogollon Rim) between the White Mountain Apache Reservation on the eastern boundary, and the Coconino National Forest on the western boundary.


    Anyplace that is open will probably be VERY crowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtownmtb View Post
    Does not look like it.
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...d=FSEPRD580925

    All Tonto National Forest Land north of Payson to the Forest boundary (Mogollon Rim) between the White Mountain Apache Reservation on the eastern boundary, and the Coconino National Forest on the western boundary.


    Anyplace that is open will probably be VERY crowded.
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    I understand the need to do this but it just sucks.

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    Yeah I agree it will be a cluster. I just did a quick glance at all the major local news websites and no mention of closures at all.

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    Saw some working on Prescott National forest website that that they are considering closures. But nothing closed yet. Fingers cross as that was by back up plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Just curious of the PHX folks on this forum - how does someone get news about the forest closures outside of this forum? Is it all over the news? If you don't watch local news or the paper (assuming it's covered there heavily), how will folks find out that camping/recreation plans for the areas discussed are closed? Are they putting up electronic signs just outside of PHX/Anthem similar to the ones you see entering FLG saying no fires?
    I get news alerts from AZCentral.com and ABC15, and watch the news, in addition to Facebook. It's been prominently covered, though if one doesn't follow any of those sources, then I don't see how they would know, other than signs driving up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dtownmtb View Post
    Does not look like it.
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...d=FSEPRD580925

    All Tonto National Forest Land north of Payson to the Forest boundary (Mogollon Rim) between the White Mountain Apache Reservation on the eastern boundary, and the Coconino National Forest on the western boundary.


    Anyplace that is open will probably be VERY crowded.
    I'm trying to make sense of the notices as they relate to the 260 stuff east of Payson. Gotta say the Forest Service sucks with their website. AZDailySun had a better website.

    For those not aware, its a tough call. Hopefully local news and local papers will all cover it, but, you need to take some responsibility too to read before you go somewhere esp during fire season. Not like this is news to anyone. Signs on highways should help as well.

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    Today I went on my last cruise up in the Fort Valley Trails Arizona Trail Etc. Soft Forest Service speaking with campers the word is out. Crazy dry conditions can completely understand last thing we want is another Schultz fire.

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    This link has the Tonto Nat. Forest closure maps. https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...eprd581181.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinatorj View Post
    Today I went on my last cruise up in the Fort Valley Trails Arizona Trail Etc. Soft Forest Service speaking with campers the word is out. Crazy dry conditions can completely understand last thing we want is another Schultz fire.
    Got in a last ride on the AZT from FR300 to East Clear Creek. Two different USFS patrols stopped to talk and make sure I knew about the closure. Also found a flyer on my windshield. They are working hard to get the word out to folks already in the forest.

    As I exited FR300 onto SR87, one side of the gate was already closed.

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    PSA - Forest Closures beginning 5/23

    Is it me or has more counties and state land closed as well? Itís getting confusing now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcatnau View Post
    Is it me or has more counties and state land closed as well? Itís getting confusing now.
    I have tons of friends, one of them went to the Flagstaff USFS office and got the skinny on closures. He said they told him if there is no rain in the next couple weeks the Coconino will be totally shut down. Get in your Pink Jeep and ATV rides because they will be shut down.

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    I camped at the Pine Trail head Sunday night, and then did a run/hike up Donahue to the rim. I was surprised with the amount of dead/down fuel on Pine Valley loop, but the standing trees looked thinned out and healthy. Up Donahue, things are thick until you get up on the rim, then it is similar to what I saw below.

    Driving home, I saw Payson Hotshots still working the fire along the 87 that burned Sunday night (Potato fire?). ADOT was working on the guardrail, so guessing that fire started from a car accident?

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    Long term outlook is for normal to above normal precip for summer, returning to normal precip for winter.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Long term outlook is for normal to above normal precip for summer, returning to normal precip for winter.
    Thought I saw some mention of an El Nino year somewhere?
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    Lots o campers out on Rogers lake area. Bone dry.

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    Schultz pass road today was bizzaringly quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Schultz pass road today was bizzaringly quiet.
    Is that even a word?

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    Nope, but it sure is bizzare....

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