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    OT- good eats in scottsdale/phoenix

    a'la Roaring Fork and such?
    Any thoughts? I bet Doug knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    a'la Roaring Fork and such?
    Any thoughts? I bet Doug knows.
    Where and what do you want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz
    Where and what do you want?
    Dunno. I don't get out much but I heart the Roaring Fork - somethign akin to that but I also like smaller bistro places too.
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    Hmm...(I should be working)...

    These are more modest places. Roaring Fork is good, but pretty Scottsdale-trendy. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

    Italian - Nick's at Frank Lloyd Wright (FLW) and 100th St., Casa Mia in the plaza at 136th St.and Via Linda, Oregano's at Shea and Scottsdale Rd.
    Mexican - Ajo Al's on 90th St. between Mountain View and Via Linda
    Burgers - Zipps on 100th St. just east of FLW
    Thai - There was a great Thai place in the shopping center on the east side of FLW just north of Shea, I forget the name.

    Trendier spots:
    - Village Tavern - Scottsdale Road and Gainey Ranch
    - Salty Senorita - just opened in the old Downside Risk at Northsight and something just north of Raintree, Mexican
    - Earl's - FLW and the 101, SW corner
    - Barcelona - good food, then wild after 9 pm on weekends, Scottsdale Rd. and Greenway-Hayden Loop
    - San Felipe - Mexican place in DC Ranch at Pima Rd. and Thompson Peak, then wild, with dancing on the bar after 10 pm on Friday and Sat. nights

    Just some thoughts off the top...I'll add some when I think of more...
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    how about free-range organiclly fed mammal meat and/or vegetarian restaurants?

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    I am guessing you want downtown Scottsdale with the mention of Roaring Fork...

    Wildfish - Great seafood, pricey.
    Orange Table - Awesome sandwiches, very busy and you'll wait.
    Bravo Bistro - underrated Italian
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    Frank Lupe's - My personal favorite Mexican food
    Casella's - Hole in the wall sandwiches
    Z' Teja's
    Stingray - High quality sushi small portions.
    Uncle Sal's - C'mon it was Sonny the Bull's place...

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    I agree with Walt about Nick's. It has really good Italian food. There is also a Nick's at Tatum and Shea, next to Pick Up Stix at the Whole Foods strip mall. Good pizza.

    I really like Jade Palace for Chinese food. It is at Shea and 92nd St., accross the street from the hospital. While there may be better Chinese restaurants in Phoenix, I have not been to one. It is as good as it gets in Arizona.

    Also, China Chili is a good Chinese restaurant. It has a new location and is no longer on Central. I think 3rd St.

    If you want a fancy and expensive restaurant, but excellent food and decor, try Michelina's on Shea and 32nd at 3241 East Shea. It is in a little strip mall and you would never know from the outside that it is truly one of the best restaurants in Phoenix.
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    OK, if RF is scottsdale trendy then that is what I'm looking for.
    I tried Roy's once and wasn't that impressed.
    Maybe food snob/bon appetit places would be a better description
    of what I'm looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    OK, if RF is scottsdale trendy then that is what I'm looking for.
    I tried Roy's once and wasn't that impressed.
    Maybe food snob/bon appetit places would be a better description
    of what I'm looking for.
    The seriously try Wildfish. The people who started Roaring Fork, own Wildfish. It's like Eddie V's in DC Ranch, but 'hipper'. The interior is pretty cool, and the food is seriously awesome. Tuna tartar as an appetizer. Waiter's in white coats. It's at the waterfront just West of PF Chang's. They also serve steaks and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    OK, if RF is scottsdale trendy then that is what I'm looking for.
    I tried Roy's once and wasn't that impressed.
    Maybe food snob/bon appetit places would be a better description
    of what I'm looking for.
    You'd like the Village Tavern, then - very Scottsdale-trendy in a Scottsdale-trendy spot. Excellent food, beer and wine. http://www.villagetavern.com/locations.cfm?city_id=6

    Also Earl's.

    Cowboy Ciao's in Old Town is also nice...and Scottsdale-trendy.

    Are you taking Gordon out?
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    nah, takin the wife out.

    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz

    Are you taking Gordon out?
    why? buckin fer a threesome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bike=good
    The seriously try Wildfish. The people who started Roaring Fork, own Wildfish. It's like Eddie V's in DC Ranch, but 'hipper'. The interior is pretty cool, and the food is seriously awesome. Tuna tartar as an appetizer. Waiter's in white coats. It's at the waterfront just West of PF Chang's. They also serve steaks and stuff.
    now yer speakin my language. thanks!
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    Drinkwater's City Hall

    Hands down the best meal I have ever eaten.

    Very, Very, Very expensive. A meal for you and wifey could set you back the price of a decent fork (all prices to me make more sense expressed as bike parts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltaz
    You'd like the Village Tavern, then - very Scottsdale-trendy in a Scottsdale-trendy spot. Excellent food, beer and wine. http://www.villagetavern.com/locations.cfm?city_id=6

    Also Earl's.

    Cowboy Ciao's in Old Town is also nice...and Scottsdale-trendy.

    Are you taking Gordon out?

    i went to both roaring fork and cowbow ciaos and would choose the cowboy farce over the roaring fork. personnaly, i would choose yuris bistro over any of them.

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    Ok, here are my votes...

    Try Cartwrights in the Cavecreek/Carefree area. It is on Cavecreek rd, west of the Horny Toad area if I remember correctly. Or my wifes favorite, T. Cookes in the Royal Palms Hotel on east Camelback rd at about 52 St. Both are nice places, excellent atmosphere for you and your wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    a'la Roaring Fork and such?
    Any thoughts? I bet Doug knows.
    Is Roaring Fork fancy? I don't go out that much, but love Pink Taco.
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    Taco Bell, McDonald's, Jack in the Box, etc.

    Get wif da program already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    a'la Roaring Fork and such?
    Any thoughts? I bet Doug knows.
    Of course I know...

    T.Cooks at the Royal Palms. If this is a date night with the wife, there is no better place in the valley. None.

    Of course you'll need to throw away the budget for the night...but it's an absolutely fantastic restaurant in both the cuisine and ambience.

    Want more points with the wifey? Book a night at the hotel...eat at T Cooks...get rip roaring drunk...and then sleep in and enjoy the breakfast buffet poolside. One of the best date nights you can do in the entire state.

    Other can't miss "nice date" joints in NE Phx/PV/Scottsdale (where 99% of the great restaurants are anyway):

    Richardson's - 16th and Bethany Home. Funky little restaurant that serves up the BEST southwestern food in the state. Try the Prickly Pear margaritas too. This is one of my favorite places to take the wife.

    Lon's at the Hermosa Inn - another fantastic restaurant with ambience out the wazoo.

    Drinkwater's - I think somebody else mentioned this one. Superb steaks.

    Cowboy Ciao - also mentioned. Quirky menu but the result is stupendous.

    Bloom - Scotts/Doubletree. Contemporary American food done very well.

    North - in Kierland Commons. Not "true" Italian food, but trust me...there isn't any true Italian food in AZ (if you're from NY, you will understand why I claim this to be). This is the next best thing. It's very good. And the bar is pretty nifty too. La Locanda at Scotts/Shea is a close second place.

    Fleming's - DC Ranch. This is a close tie with Drinkwater's for the best steak in town. I just ate there a few days ago and the meal was stupendous.

    Roaring Fork - as you mentioned. You must have good taste


    And to top it all off...end the night at Postino's wine bar at 40th/Campbell. Some people will say Kazimerz in downtown Scottsdale is better...but I like the ambience and the crowd at Postino's far better. Split a bottle of wine and share a dessert (they get them from from La Grande Orange next door).

    Thx...Doug

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    I've got to bookmark that post for future reference somehow. Thanks.

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    Arrivederci - Scottsdale

    Best, absolutely, Italian you can get in America.

    Ask for Giovanna and table 15.

    Prices are 4* and food is incredible.

    If you want to carb load for the weekend get the Four Cheese Gnocchi (it has an Italian name but I don't recall what it is.

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    a'la Roaring Fork and such?
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    La Hacienda at the Fairmont Scottsdale Princess Resort. Upscale Mexican food, very good. Such Is Life on 24th Street South of Indian School also has excellent Mexican food.

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    and since i started this i'll add some of my favorite phoenix places - Barrio Cafe http://www.barriocafe.com/barriocafe.html (sunday brunch rocks!)
    and Sierra Bonita Grill. Neither place is snobby but the food is good enough that they could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    and since i started this i'll add some of my favorite phoenix places - Barrio Cafe http://www.barriocafe.com/barriocafe.html (sunday brunch rocks!)
    and Sierra Bonita Grill. Neither place is snobby but the food is good enough that they could be.
    I second Sierra Bonita, great food low attitude. I love places that you have to park in (basically) an alley and then walk to great food...
    There is also Chelsea's Kitchen, one of the best patio eateries in town. Their fried Chicken and mashed potatoes are effin' fan-tas-tic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike=good
    I second Sierra Bonita, great food low attitude. I love places that you have to park in (basically) an alley and then walk to great food...
    There is also Chelsea's Kitchen, one of the best patio eateries in town. Their fried Chicken and mashed potatoes are effin' fan-tas-tic.
    I've wanted to try Chelsea's Kitchen but the long list of rules on the front kinda turned me off. It would be great if they allowed "canal attire" on the patio and had more hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB
    I've wanted to try Chelsea's Kitchen but the long list of rules on the front kinda turned me off. It would be great if they allowed "canal attire" on the patio and had more hours.
    Chelsea's Kitchen = good American food.

    It's not on my favorites list yet (especially for a date night), but definitely a cool spot. The patio kicks a$$.

    If you're a sushi fan, my wife's favorite spot is Zen 32 on Camelback/32nd. Good place to watch pretty people too. My favorite spot for sushi is Blue Wasabi in DC Ranch. Both are top notch sushi joints (far far far better than the swill served up at most sushi bars in Phoenix, including Ra).

    My list of favorites varies heavily between "good place to eat out" vs. "date night with the wife" vs. "impress out-of-town business clients". My version of "date night with the wife" may differ heavily from yours. We don't get out all that often so we spend a lot of $$ in nice restaurants...hence my previous list of some of the best (and most critically acclaimed) joints in town. When I just want a good meal without impressing anybody, I tone it down a few notches (but still eat nice grub).


    Thx...Doug

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