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    Old & Slow - 2012

    Dirt data for the 2011.

    909.86 mi (321.23 mi uphill, 309.19 mi downhill, 272.73 mi flat)
    98252 ft total ascent (100709 ft descent)
    (5.4 mph average speed, 48.3 mph max speed)

    Happy New Year to all. To my riding friends. See you on the trial in 2012.
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    Your early...premature epostulation
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    Glad you're planning on still being Old & Slow for 2012... just like me!

    I fear we will soon have to start an 'Older & Slower' thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibro View Post
    Your early...premature epostulation
    dude, lay off the man,,, it's past his bedtime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibro View Post
    Your early...premature epostulation
    Translation. My ankle blows out on every ride.
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    Old & Slow in action today. Heading South from what I hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Old & Slow in action today. Heading South from what I hear.
    That's nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    That's nasty.
    You will feel at home. 8 & AW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    Glad you're planning on still being Old & Slow for 2012... just like me!

    I fear we will soon have to start an 'Older & Slower' thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGHORN LEW View Post
    What would the age qualifications be for membership on TEAM Geezer? I wouldn't mind joinin' although, I am only 49 and counting
    I think SLOW is the major prerequisite Not so much old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    I think SLOW is the major prerequisite Not so much old...
    At least for me that's is the case.

    01-03-12 First Dirt Ride of the Year.

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    Are you guys riding tonight? If so, I'd like to charge up my lights and join you. If not, I'll drink beer and smoke cigs.

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    I believe some will be rolling around 3:45. Some maybe later.
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    When is TRB rolling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    When is TRB rolling?
    Around 3:45 along with Mark. Titusbro will be running late. Plan is to head over to the 220 chute and then upper mine. Pat will text me when he is rolling. He should only be 20 minutes behind us. So a few more breaks and he'll catch us. You and DDB rolling today?
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    Sounds great. See you at 3:45

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    Getting my rear wheel re-built so I'm out but will be at NRA for some fun! Might swing by for berws tho. I'll holla!
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    Cool if I join you guys at 3:45? My whole crew's working till late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razardica View Post
    Cool if I join you guys at 3:45? My whole crew's working till late.
    Feel free if you don't waiting on me.
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    I just finished fixing a tubeless tire leak. It's 3:50. I'll move on to plan b, and try to catch up with you another time.

    Have fun.

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    That was fun. Thanks Pat, Tim, Barry, Mark, Jason and Jay.

    It was dark-ish when I got back to the parking lot so I guess I left at the right time.

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    One mechanical! Overall a good ride! Even if Barry pushed me over in a turn!

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    Fun ride.

    Tim was showing off when he fell. Besides, I didn't push him THAT hard.

    Sorry Jason had bike woes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Besides, I didn't push him THAT hard.
    Sure, once the weight is moving. Does not take much to get it off course.
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    Some Go John with Mark. Really enjoyed this trail. Horse's and Hikers but what the heck. Great day for a ride.

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    Fat Boy about to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64
    Fat Boy about to fail.
    Did Mark push you?

    Go John can be fun. The weather was awesome today. Will get my riding in tomorrow. Hopefully we fare as well as you two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Did Mark push you?

    Go John can be fun. The weather was awesome today. Will get my riding in tomorrow. Hopefully we fare as well as you two.
    Not this time. I did snapped a seat rail. Mark claimed he was skinny amd swapped saddles with me. I used an Allen wrench and zip ties to hold it together. Mark said it worked OK. Would have sucked otherwise. As we were half way up the climb on the North side at the time.
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    Looks fun. I hiked there like 12 years ago, I remember it being cool.

    Road MMP long loop today, plenty of people out there for the Pivot demo. But once we split off on to long from comp, it was pretty clear.
    Good prep for the MBAA race there next weekend. Anyone else doing it?

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    I hope so.
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    Anybody going out today?

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    I don't know how you appeared above me, but if you guys are rolling out at 4:30, I'll be there.

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    Just a route question... see above a track riding over Fat Man's Pass. If you don't mind me asking, which way do you guys ride it (S to N or N to S)? I tried to find a better way last week and it was kind of heinous coming from the north (hike-a-bike at the top). Checked it out earlier this week from the south side and there's a pretty hairy little rocky hill thing you have to clear to come at it going south to north. Do you just do some HAB and ride when you can or is there a better/more rideable way to go? Thx!

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    South to North 99% of the time. HAB up the hill as I've never seen anyone climb it. Maybe Skinny-Tire on his SS. But I'm not sure he gets that high up on the mountain.
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    Closer to 3:45 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelmonkey View Post
    Just a route question... see above a track riding over Fat Man's Pass. If you don't mind me asking, which way do you guys ride it (S to N or N to S)? I tried to find a better way last week and it was kind of heinous coming from the north (hike-a-bike at the top). Checked it out earlier this week from the south side and there's a pretty hairy little rocky hill thing you have to clear to come at it going south to north. Do you just do some HAB and ride when you can or is there a better/more rideable way to go? Thx!
    South to North is HAB at the very top, well at least for me, which isn't syaing much. It is climable from the saddle to the bottom of the very top section which is and shall remain HAB for me for a very long time. I have ridden N to S just not all on one non-stop leg. It gets really gnarly and loose in a couple of places. I suppose there may be a small section or two that requires HAB but I don't recall specifically where, but seems to me it was all cleanable.

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    Thanks for the info. I think there's a better way than what I did, maybe just east of where I went (more in the actual "pass"). I went virtually to the top of that peak over there, then west and up a short hill on the ridge where the trail just ended in a big dropoff, then backtracked, and down a loose trail that took me down and over the little hill on the south side that I'm guessing is a bit of a grunt to get going the other way. It's always kind of fun exploring odd little side tracks over there.

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    Just noticed that airplane in the upper right area...

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    I have never been on that portion of the trail that you backtracked. We usually ride the part of the trail that is not highlighted by your track.

    Exploring out there is fun. The ridgeline has lots of stuff off it too, but some of it, at least, likely not for the timid.

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    Good ride tonight minus the bike issue. Longest climb out of the gate for me tonight.

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    That was fun. Good meeting up with Andy (SiO2).

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    Ben and I rode a good little Porcupine>VOAZ>Lower Cheese>some crap back near Squaw Peak>8 loop and we met a new friend.

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    Hella good ride, really like that section back on 304 rolling back towards 100. So happy with the new stem and seat adjustment. Basically no back pain today.

    Went from a 50mm 0degree DH stem to a 100mm 8degree, and moved the seat further over the crank.
    Feel more in control too.

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    That was fun. Good meeting up with Andy (SiO2).

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    Ben and I rode a good little Porcupine>VOAZ>Lower Cheese>some crap back near Squaw Peak>8 loop and we met a new friend.
    It was good meeting you guys too. I'll try to block Tuesday evenings off from from the crazy family schedule and meet up again over the next few weeks. Spring is the best time for late afternoon rides. Cool weather and long days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelmonkey View Post
    Thanks for the info. I think there's a better way than what I did, maybe just east of where I went (more in the actual "pass"). I went virtually to the top of that peak over there, then west and up a short hill on the ridge where the trail just ended in a big dropoff, then backtracked, and down a loose trail that took me down and over the little hill on the south side that I'm guessing is a bit of a grunt to get going the other way. It's always kind of fun exploring odd little side tracks over there.

    This is what I did:
    Just noticed that airplane in the upper right area...
    If you go east as an out and back from the top of the pass you get into the real fun.
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    Or, East and then down North on several differnt trails or South on the fall line above the Porcupine Rim mine.

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    I borrowed a light from a friend and went night riding today. Man, I gotta get some lights.

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    Was pretty dead out there today, only saw 2 other bikers on the trail, must have just missed Barry when we rolled out. Not many hikers either.
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    You guys left a few minutes before me and took T100, I took Porcupine caught up to you near the juncture at the wash before the ascent up Porc.

    I saw several cyclists and hikers actually. Porcupine->1A via the red hill->VOAZ->Irregular->1A->T100 and back.

    GPS crapped out before the good stuff started so I dunno...a few miles and a bunch of climbing in about 1.5 hrs on a mountain bike.

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    Yea I thought I saw you as we road out.
    Actually we hit porcupine, and then up 100 to the saddle. Hadn't done that section back in off 1A to the south, pretty cool up there.

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    Okay, I wondered if that was you up on the saddle below Fat Man's or if it was you down below. There were three groups of two riders, one group was dressed similarly to you two hence my confusion. I figured you would be riding faster than the two I caught up with.

    I meant to bundle up but the shortsleaved tee was fine. Just got a bit chilly from the evaporating prespiration once the sun started to go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Okay, I wondered if that was you up on the saddle below Fat Man's or if it was you down below. There were three groups of two riders, one group was dressed similarly to you two hence my confusion. I figured you would be riding faster than the two I caught up with.

    I meant to bundle up but the shortsleaved tee was fine. Just got a bit chilly from the evaporating prespiration once the sun started to go away.
    Yeah, we did Porcupine over to Conversation Point to Chutes to 220 to Mine Climb (thanks for showing me that, guys) and then back down around to the Switchbacks off 220 and to Zipper and then back.

    I was in the same spot you were - we stopped to session that little gap after the Mine Climb and I took my Camelbak off and started getting chilly.

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    Funny how all my sessioning "attempts" add up to almost .7 of a mile.

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    Plan on riding Sunday and Noon.
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    I'm in today. RTR at 3:45.
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    In today as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    In today as well!
    Is Stumpy in?
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    I'll be there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Is Stumpy in?
    Stumpy?? Did MJRDR get a stumpy carbon evo to replace his enduro????
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
    I'll be there
    Who are you and why are you hi-jacking this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Stumpy?? Did MJRDR get a stumpy carbon evo to replace his enduro????
    Nope. Stumpy is his backup bike. I think he wants a 36 pound sled to pedal as a replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Who are you and why are you hi-jacking this thread?
    I'll be out around 5:15. Please make sure you're off the trails by then. And quit moving rocks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    I'll be out around 5:15. Please make sure you're off the trails by then. And quit moving rocks!
    Stay off our Mountain racer boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Who are you and why are you hi-jacking this thread?
    Just some jerk inviting himself to come ride with you and shove you off the nearest ledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
    Just some jerk
    Got that right.
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    I wanted to ride today. Got buried at work. I'm going to shoot for Thursday.
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    Are you guys wrapping up before dark or needing lights this time of year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Are you guys wrapping up before dark or needing lights this time of year?
    No lights needed tonight. But we all carry them just in case our adventure last a little longer.
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    potentially in. Work has been busy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    potentially in. Work has been busy!
    That happens when you take a mid-week play day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    That happens when you take a mid-week play day.
    This is true but so worth it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    This is true but so worth it!
    As far as I know it's just Pat and I. Believe we will be heading up VOAZ today.
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    Fun enjoyable outing. Jason, Pat and I for the first half and then ran into the Dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Fun enjoyable outing. Jason, Pat and I for the first half and then ran into the Dog.

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    I forgot to use the blue bags so be careful out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    I forgot to use the blue bags so be careful out there.
    That's why I put Pat's blankets over the seat in the truck before letting you in. Was chilly driving home with the window down. All so you could stick your head out the window and bark at people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    That's why I put Pat's blankets over the seat in the truck before letting you in...
    I will not accept them back if they have 'Racing Stripes'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    I will not accept them back if they have 'Racing Stripes'...
    I'll just fold them so you can't see the stripe.
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    Sunny and 67 Tuesday. Lets get some moisture on the ground tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Sunny and 67 Tuesday. Lets get some moisture on the ground tonight.
    Forecasters are awesome. My rule of thumb, if its less than 50% chance, it's not gonna happen.
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    You in today? Mark and I should be rolling around 3:45.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    You in today? Mark and I should be rolling around 3:45.
    Yup, at 40thst but might be pushing 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    I fear we will soon have to start an 'Older & Slower' thread...
    Legs must have read this comment. After Irregular the legs were toast tonight. I did not even have enough strength to finish with the guys or push Skinny Tire off the trail as he passed.

    Still a good ride overall. Even with the Kavu sighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Legs must have read this comment. After Irregular the legs were toast tonight. I did not even have enough strength to finish with the guys or push Skinny Tire off the trail as he passed.

    Still a good ride overall. Even with the Kavu sighting.
    FYI, the guy who was leading us up T100 ended up breaking his arm about 10 minutes after we saw you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    FYI, the guy who was leading us up T100 ended up breaking his arm about 10 minutes after we saw you.
    WOW! Where at?
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    Dang CO. Lower Mine trail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Dang CO. Lower Mine trail?
    VOAZ heading up. At the last left turn before you get to the first saddle. I didn't see it, but more of a tip over on to a very unfortuate location.
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    Both those left handers can grab you. Mark broke his wrist on the second one before the steps or was it the first one? Marky???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Both those left handers can grab you. Mark broke his wrist on the second one before the steps or was it the first one? Marky???
    It was the second left hander going up right before the 3 step climb. And it was my hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    VOAZ heading up. At the last left turn before you get to the first saddle. I didn't see it, but more of a tip over on to a very unfortunate location.
    Dang... I usually don't have any issues going up that section but I always dab coming down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJRDR View Post
    It was the second left hander going up right before the 3 step climb. And it was my hand.
    Stumpygoat!! Good ride last night. I enjoyed the alternate return path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Stumpygoat!! Good ride last night. I enjoyed the alternate return path.
    Yeah that was a good ride, you guys blasted up those switches I didn't even see you guys in site when I got to the climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJRDR View Post
    Yeah that was a good ride, you guys blasted up those switches I didn't even see you guys in site when I got to the climb.
    Kavurider channels my inner roadie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Kavurider channels my inner roadie.
    What is truly demoralizing is that he was on a 40+ lb 1x10 geared DH bike. Maybe time to start needlepoint or something, but I'd suck at that too.
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    You all need to remember. Those kids still have their baby fat. Give them 15 years and they will be slow like the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    What is truly demoralizing is that he was on a 40+ lb 1x10 geared DH bike. Maybe time to start needlepoint or something, but I'd suck at that too.
    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.
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    I was using maybe 75% lung capacity too which I suppose may not have helped. Probably should have not been on the bike but ahd already missed weekend rides for similar reasons and wasn't willing to let another ride go by. My measily <5 miles felt like a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    VOAZ heading up. At the last left turn before you get to the first saddle. I didn't see it, but more of a tip over on to a very unfortuate location.
    Dang. Hope he heals up quickly. Falling at that spot looks like it'd be tricky business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    I think he was born around the time of the Chernobyl fallout which would explain a lot.

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    Did Spur Cross last night - feeling it today.

    Anybody riding today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    sig worthy??
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