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    Night riding advice

    I have been riding hawes and somo pretty regularly during the day, but its getting so dang hot I am considering buying a light and doing some night riding, but I know nothing about lights or what set up to go with, any advice will help!
    I have come to the realization I am that guy i used to make fun of!

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    he he .... i know where this one is going.

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    start in the lighting forum: http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-riding/

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    I figured there was a forum on it but didnt know where to start, thanks
    I have come to the realization I am that guy i used to make fun of!

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    Go on a full moon with clear sky. Leave the light at home.

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    I just bought a Magicshine 900 from GEOMAN's website a few days ago and am impressed.
    It was at my door in about 26 hours from the time I clicked "accept" on paypal at 2:15 PM until it arrived the next day at almost 4PM via UPS ground.

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    magic shine !!! $$cheap,superbright,and best bang for the buck... I'm happy with mine purchased it via geomans web site,much better than settling for less and not being able to see out there and/or overpaying for the wazoo 400 set uo!! see yah out there ...literally!

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    told ya

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    yep I see the light now!!!

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    or you can buy my lighting rig.......for reals.....PM me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    he he .... i know where this one is going.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    told ya
    Who'd a thunk it ? Lights for bikes. Wow

    And gee whiz, just where would I be able to purchase my Magicshine 900 with the following, I'm new to night riding too ?


    •Brand: Magicshine
    •Model: P7 (MJ-808)

    •Emitter Brand/Type: Seoul Semiconductors SSC
    •Emitter BIN: P7-C-SXO
    •Color BIN: White
    •Total Emitters: 1
    •Power Cord Length: Approximately 12" on lighthead plus 1 meter extension (included)

    •Battery Configurations: Powered by a separate rechargeable battery pack (4 x 18650 lithium batteries inside)
    •Voltage Input: 8.4V max
    •Switch Type: Click Switch
    •Switch Location: Tailcap
    •Modes: 5

    •Lighting Modes: High Mode@900 lumens > Mid Mode@500 lumens > Low Mode@200 lumens > Fast Blink > SOS Mode
    •Circuitry: Digital Regulated 2400mA Current Output
    •Brightness: 900 lumens maximum brightness (manufacturer rated)
    •Runtime: 3 hours on High Mode (manufacturer rated)
    •Lens: Coated Glass Lens
    •Reflector: Light Orange Peel Reflector
    •Mount: Integrated bar mount. ORDER YOUR HELMET MOUNT HERE - $9.99 (CLICK HERE)

    •Accessories Included: 100V~240V AC charger (US plug)

    •Warranty: Manufacturer - 90 days from purchase

    •Origin: China

    Is it even possible ?

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    Magicshine!! Bang for buck winner!!

    I got the $209 package from Geoman. Ordered it on a Wednesday night and had it Friday.

    Works like a charm so far. I really like the addition of a bar mount, as I had only used helmet mounted HID lights before. Now, when I turn my head, I do not lose my vision to the front of the bike, which can be disorientating. It also adds a lot of contrast to the terrain.

    I use the helmet on High or Medium, and just the floods on the bar, except for fast downhills where I put everything on high. Run times are good and the light output is excellent. Very wide beam pattern with no hot spots. Can't go wrong for the price.

    There is good reason that "what light?" discussions turn into "Magicshine" forums. Simply can't beat the price for light output, and Geoman seems to do well in his customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheelsdown2002
    I got the $209 package from Geoman. Ordered it on a Wednesday night and had it Friday.

    Works like a charm so far. I really like the addition of a bar mount, as I had only used helmet mounted HID lights before. Now, when I turn my head, I do not lose my vision to the front of the bike, which can be disorientating. It also adds a lot of contrast to the terrain.

    I use the helmet on High or Medium, and just the floods on the bar, except for fast downhills where I put everything on high. Run times are good and the light output is excellent. Very wide beam pattern with no hot spots. Can't go wrong for the price.

    There is good reason that "what light?" discussions turn into "Magicshine" forums. Simply can't beat the price for light output, and Geoman seems to do well in his customer service.
    It's just interesting that the users who make the initial inquiry have like 5 random posts and the ask their question and then they never post again. And then the suggestion of magic shine is seconded by another poster that has zero posts. This user then never posts again.

    If you search all of mtbr this pattern is repeated at nauseum.
    It the concept is over your head then you will never get it any way.

    I know people that have the lights and like them very much but their bogus marketing by not paying for advertising is just low class. I'm smart enought to spot it. Most people aren't.

    They are copying Global Bikes recipe of guerilla marketing which is well documented on MTBR.

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    Magicshine baiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    Magicshine baiting
    hey lets not make this about race

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnniO
    It's just interesting that the users who make the initial inquiry have like 5 random posts and the ask their question and then they never post again. And then the suggestion of magic shine is seconded by another poster that has zero posts. This user then never posts again.

    If you search all of mtbr this pattern is repeated at nauseum.
    It the concept is over your head then you will never get it any way.

    I know people that have the lights and like them very much but their bogus marketing by not paying for advertising is just low class. I'm smart enought to spot it. Most people aren't.

    They are copying Global Bikes recipe of guerilla marketing which is well documented on MTBR.
    You're f$#king smoking crack!!

    I've got 1,419 posts!!

    See where you can click on "view public profile"?

    I don't have any affiliation with Geoman, or with Magicshine. I am just a local Tucson trail rider who happened to buy a set of Magicshines after reading many posts about them, including posts about how they had been changed and improved over time, and how Geoman offered good customer service.

    I bought them, and they work well for a good price. If you can't handle that, piss off.

    Maybe you are the one that has some affiliation with light manufacturers, and don't like all these people buying cheap lights that work well?

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    You mean 1,420 post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    You mean 1,420 post
    But who's counting?

    Obviously not JohnniO. Must have got tricky when he got past the first hand.

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    I don't think he was referring to your post anyways.



    That 1400 light looks a little bulky. Is it ?

    Anyone running a dual 900 set up .. one on bars and one on helmet ?

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    I'm perhaps the low post individual?? I don't do the whole chat thing other than observing the forums to gain info on where the best place to ride....i bought a light and motion from chainlove that broke after 5 uses...I did notice at the mcdowell night ride 70 - 80 night riders and several magicshines to which everyone I asked said they are fn china made ,hot.more cheaply made than some of the 400 - 600 set ups but great for the $$ . Since I was sport'n some burners I use backpacking it worked out to be a great solution. No conspiracy ,the only gorilla involved was the tape I used to secure the burners! Hope the mastermind marketing campaign goes well please pm me so I can receive any commission due

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo
    I don't think he was referring to your post anyways.



    That 1400 light looks a little bulky. Is it ?

    Anyone running a dual 900 set up .. one on bars and one on helmet ?
    Then he should not have put my post in quotes while making that absurd statement IMO.

    Here is a picture of the 1400. It measures 3.5 inches across the outside of the 2 outside lights. The 2 flood lamps are 3/4 inch diameter and the center light is 1 5/8 inch diameter. It stands 2 inches above the bar at the high point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheelsdown2002
    You're f$#king smoking crack!!

    I've got 1,419 posts!!

    See where you can click on "view public profile"?

    I don't have any affiliation with Geoman, or with Magicshine. I am just a local Tucson trail rider who happened to buy a set of Magicshines after reading many posts about them, including posts about how they had been changed and improved over time, and how Geoman offered good customer service.

    I bought them, and they work well for a good price. If you can't handle that, piss off.

    Maybe you are the one that has some affiliation with light manufacturers, and don't like all these people buying cheap lights that work well?

    +1.
    Blind as eff at night, to the point that in the last 6 months I've avoided night riding, due to the lack of funds to buy the 'good' lights.

    Last week happenstance introduced Magicshine from hype to reality, and now I GET what everyone is talking about. I almost feel GUILTY paying for what seems such an under-priced product, but hey now, imagine that; the consumer winning for once.

    Additionally, good luck trying to find comparable customer service. This is a company with representatives that actually stand by their products, accommodate personal preference, and let the product sell itself, which is almost alarmingly refreshing.

    Not that I'm a fan.
    "People do not lack strength; they lack will" (Victor Hugo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheelsdown2002
    You're f$#king smoking crack!!

    I've got 1,419 posts!!

    See where you can click on "view public profile"?

    I don't have any affiliation with Geoman, or with Magicshine. I am just a local Tucson trail rider who happened to buy a set of Magicshines after reading many posts about them, including posts about how they had been changed and improved over time, and how Geoman offered good customer service.

    I bought them, and they work well for a good price. If you can't handle that, piss off.

    Maybe you are the one that has some affiliation with light manufacturers, and don't like all these people buying cheap lights that work well?
    It's amazing that you amassed so many posts without having the abilty to read. Having that many posts makes you the schill , not the puppet.



    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis
    +1.
    Blind as eff at night, to the point that in the last 6 months I've avoided night riding, due to the lack of funds to buy the 'good' lights.

    Last week happenstance introduced Magicshine from hype to reality, and now I GET what everyone is talking about. I almost feel GUILTY paying for what seems such an under-priced product, but hey now, imagine that; the consumer winning for once.

    Additionally, good luck trying to find comparable customer service. This is a company with representatives that actually stand by their products, accommodate personal preference, and let the product sell itself, which is almost alarmingly refreshing.

    Not that I'm a fan.
    There is nothing in my post putting down the lights quality which you are defending. On the contrary, I mentioned having friends that use them and like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnniO
    There is nothing in my post putting down the lights quality which you are defending. On the contrary, I mentioned having friends that use them and like them.
    Totally understood.

    I was simply padding in, Happy Puppy Syndrome in full swing, to throw in my two cents regarding the lights, alleged advertising tactics aside. I'm opportunistic that way. I got nuthin', otherwise. Just saw a chance to deliver a big, sloppy lick Magicshine's way.

    Peace.
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    Been running that same emitter in a flashlight, long before the Magic Shine became available for $77 shipped from Deal Extreme in China.

    Has 3 modes instead of 5 to paddle through, great if you night race and want to turn your light off on your helmet before blinding people in the pit area.

    I bought mine a year ago. No big thing.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149

    Want the Big Kahuna, direct from China, save a few bucks, if you have a few weeks to wait for shipping? $119

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.36018

    All of this was available a year ago in the "Lights" section, if folks would take the initiative to look or use the Search Function.

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    JonniO I didnt start this link for any other reason than to find out some info about night riding, I havent posted again cause I have been busy, so dont call people out without knowing anything about it
    I have come to the realization I am that guy i used to make fun of!

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    [QUOTE=JohnniO]
    It's amazing that you amassed so many posts without having the abilty to read.
    I can read just fine thank you.

    You are the one who used my post in quotations, while going on your tirade about "guerrilla marketing".

    If you did not want me to take it that I was your target, then maybe you should have quoted those you were actually targeting instead. Don't you think that would be more logical and reasonable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesa menace
    so dont call people out without knowing anything about it

    Ooooohhhh, how menacing!

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    ahh... once again, another magicshine induced love fest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesa menace
    JonniO I didnt start this link for any other reason than to find out some info about night riding, I havent posted again cause I have been busy, so dont call people out without knowing anything about it
    There's a "Review" section here, there's also a "Lights" section. Use them, "Search" is your friend. Empower yourself.

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    let me send another stroke out for GEOMAN and his magic shine... great product, price and service...hahaha, I said service!!!

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    GeoMan is, technically, no longer Geo Man, he lost the Geo part and GPS sales portion of his Garmin agreement to do sales and distribute, they shut him down.... so now he's just another Chineseium importer of MagicShine. Maybe he should be MagicMan from here on out?

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    TwoWheels -
    What's your take on the 1400 set up? I've been riding with a Light and Motion Arc on the bars. I'm concidering throwing the L&M on my helmet and rockin the 1400 on the bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTreky
    TwoWheels -
    What's your take on the 1400 set up? I've been riding with a Light and Motion Arc on the bars. I'm concidering throwing the L&M on my helmet and rockin the 1400 on the bars.
    That would probably be an excellent combination.

    The 1400 has a bar switch with 3 modes. 2 flood lights on. Center light only. And flood lamps and center mount. Each mode switches when you do a quick click of the switch. It also has variable brightness, so if you push the button and hold it, the light goes dimmer until you let it go at the desired dimness. Press it again, and hold, and it goes brighter until you let go, or it gets to max brightness.

    I mostly use the 2 flood lamps, because they put out a very wide spread of light that reaches out about 30 feet. These 2 lights in combo with the head lamp, allow you to ride a fast pace just about anywhere. The flood lamps give a lot of contrast to the terrain in front, and spill out to the side really well, so you do not feel like riding in a tunnel. I don't end up using it with the middle lamp by itself. I tend to go from the 2 floods, to all 3 if it is a fast downhill.

    Most places, I don't feel the need for the center mount light, as the flood lamps are really effective, and my helmet light fills in perfectly out in front of them. On climbs I set the helmet to medium with just the floods. Then set the helmet to high when the speed picks up, reserving the center bar mount for mega fast sections.

    Doing this allows for a really nice management of battery life, as it seems that if you run all 3 bar lights on max high together, the battery will go down a little faster than the head lamp used on high. Only using the center light when really needed(which is not very often) will give you a very long run time, and effective lighting.

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    To give a different perspective, I have been using the Niterider brand lights for about 10 years now and have been very happy with their products. Great high-quality lights and great customer service experiences. Plus, Niterider is usually at the 12/24hr events that we like to do (Old Pueblo, 24hrs of Fury, 24hr Nat Champ, ect).

    I am currently running the Pro 600 on my bars and the MiNewt on my helmet that works great for me. http://niterider.com/bike.shtml
    Marty

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