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  1. #1
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    New School Geo Bikes on AZ Trails? Too Long?

    AZ locals, I moved to PHX about 10 months ago, from San Diego. Currently riding a 48.2" WB XL Nomad 3, and it feels excessively long for South Mountain, White Tanks, Sedona, and Prescott riding I've done.

    I've softened up my suspension, just because the riding in Arizona is a little slower than CA, no more Big Bear trips, and the trend of bikes getting longer by the minute seems to not be as conducive to AZ style trails.

    Anyone feel the same?

    Even though I'm 6'3", my next bike will be a Large Wreckoning or Slash 29er, both felt snappy in Sedona when I got to ride them.

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    Well, I work at Pivot and we do all of our design & a ton of testing right in Phoenix so I'd say "not really"... I think the new geo just means adjusting what size bike is right for you and what you want out of the bike. I prefer a more compact frame so I was expecting the longer geometry to feel awkward in the tight stuff (like the switchbacks while climbing National or descending Corona) but it proved to be quite a bit easier (riding a comparably sized frame). A lot of the stuff in Phx is tighter and slower but I think you'll find your rhythm.
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    Tuning suspension to rocky arizona can be a challenge.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

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    I am not sure what suspension you are using but I would definitely look into tuning for the region. I moved here from the Bay Area (smooth, flowy jump lines) and had to adapt.

    First, give it time. I didn't like the terrain at first (nor how my bike "felt" here) but now I cant wait to get home when I ride abroad. I love the feeling of drifting around corners, slamming into super chunk, and the odd rattler to get the adrenaline running.

    Second, give the guys Stillwell Performance (North Scottsdale) a call. They do great work and can change your outlook quickly. I had my SC 5010 tuned by them (Monarch Debonair, Pike RC3) and the bike felt completely different and much more fun here.

    Your Nomad is perfect for here you just need to dial it in.

    As a side note - I have recently switched all of my suspension to DVO and it is next level.

    Yeti SB6, SB5, SB4.5

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