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    maxxis minion dhf - Single ply version

    Those that might run this tire, have you found you need to run higher PSI. Running this on the rear at 30PSI tubeless on a Flow rim. I am a heavy guy but find this tire lays over a little. I do like this performance but was told I should run a higher PSI to help fight the lay over feeling. I have ran many Specy tires at this PSI and not had this feeling.

    It one of these two options. Not 100% sure which one Ryan at Kore ordered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Those that might run this tire, have you found you need to run higher PSI. Running this on the rear at 30PSI tubeless on a Flow rim. I am a heavy guy but find this tire lays over a little. I do like this performance but was told I should run a higher PSI to help fight the lay over feeling. I have ran many Specy tires at this PSI and not had this feeling.

    It one of these two options. Not 100% sure which one Ryan at Kore ordered me.

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    You are probably running the first one, the 3C, I doubt you are running a Super Tacky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    You are probably running the first one, the 3C, I doubt you are running a Super Tacky.
    Yea, it's not the super tacky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Yea, it's not the super tacky.
    860 gram tire, EXO casing, its going to flex at lower pressures. Especially since its tubeless.
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    Been running the single ply minions for years at 25psi tubeless. Started to up it to 28psi but ya they will give. I'm constantly drifting on corners. Grippy or fast rolling when it comes to psi...you choose. It's the same with every tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    860 gram tire, EXO casing, its going to flex at lower pressures. Especially since its tubeless.
    I'll try a few more PSI today. This is the first 800 gram tire I have fold over on me. But then again, I normally don't run Maxxis tires.

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    Even if you run slightly higher pressure, you are still going to get more grip since you are running tubeless. It won't make that much of a difference in handling on the shale of PMP. The 3C is pretty grippy as is, although they never lasted too long on valley trails.
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    I feel the same way. I like the grip and handling characteristics but I dont really trust the side wall. Seems like the bead is going to just pull right off the rim at lower psi which makes me very uncomfortable. I too run higher psi. Oddly enough Im running a 2.4 Ardent on my 29er and can run that tire at 23 psi with no concern what so ever. Maybe its just that tire. Too bad really but I dont think I will be buying another minion exo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douger-1 View Post
    Oddly enough Im running a 2.4 Ardent on my 29er and can run that tire at 23 psi with no concern what so ever. Maybe its just that tire. Too bad really but I dont think I will be buying another minion exo.
    True, I test rode a yeti 66 last week with full ardent setup and they seemed really predictable even though i heard lots of stories about the give past a certain point.
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    If they would put the minion tread pattern on the ardent casing they would have a winner. Im not sure why the minion side wall is so weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    True, I test rode a yeti 66 last week with full ardent setup and they seemed really predictable even though i heard lots of stories about the give past a certain point.
    All depends on how aggressive you are. The center tread has plenty of grip, same with the side knobs, its just that "jebus point" between them that can catch you off guard. They are really great tires though, once you learn to trust them and really lean the bike into the turns, they have insane traction.
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    Specialized tires are over-priced for how they perform and last, like Schwable. Minion DHF get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    All depends on how aggressive you are. The center tread has plenty of grip, same with the side knobs, its just that "jebus point" between them that can catch you off guard. They are really great tires though, once you learn to trust them and really lean the bike into the turns, they have insane traction.
    agree here with Kavu,

    cycle, maybe cause it's a single ply......... I wouldn't expect too much from them. But with that said I was running 2.35 single ply minions, and had to run a min of 32psi front and 34psi back to get that more stand up feeling.
    Switched over to 2.5 minions dhf front/back exo and big difference, back at running 26psi front and 28psi all tubeless.

    Just ordered Highrollers 2, got a chance to play with it and it was great. A heck a lot faster rolling than the minions, and corners amazingly. single ply exo 2.4 in super tacky
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    Why is Kavu chiming in....he used to run slicks on downhill bikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Why is Kavu chiming in....he used to run slicks on downhill bikes!
    I don't recall you passing me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Why is Kavu chiming in....he used to run slicks on downhill bikes!

    and 3.0 Gazzi tires on his xc bike.
    .Hoog just texted me and said it's "Surface area to G2 tangential force vector ratio optimization. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    I don't recall you passing me...
    ooooohhhhhh pwnd!!!!!
    .Hoog just texted me and said it's "Surface area to G2 tangential force vector ratio optimization. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by doodooboi View Post
    and 3.0 Gazzi tires on his xc bike.
    I had an XC bike? When was that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Those that might run this tire, have you found you need to run higher PSI. Running this on the rear at 30PSI tubeless on a Flow rim. I am a heavy guy but find this tire lays over a little. I do like this performance but was told I should run a higher PSI to help fight the lay over feeling. I have ran many Specy tires at this PSI and not had this feeling.

    It one of these two options. Not 100% sure which one Ryan at Kore ordered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    This is why dog invented singlespeeds
    Please explain how single-speed is related to a tire question? Dang racer boys and their one track minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Please explain how single-speed is related to a tire question? Dang racer boys and their one track minds.
    Singlespeeders are the Honey Badgers of biking: we don't give a shit.

    Do they make this in a 29-inch tire?
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Singlespeeders are the Honey Badgers of biking: we don't give a shit.

    Do they make this in a 29-inch tire?
    Yes you do, otherwise you would not post pics of you climbing a little hill. Maxxis does have this for clown bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Yes you do, otherwise you would not post pics of you climbing a little hill.
    Huh? I don't post pics on MTBR. MTBR is reserved for *****ing about the weather and tattletailing.

    (P.S. I had a Maxxis Minion on my "I have a small penis" bike, and the thing was bombproof. I'm not sure if what "ply" it was.)
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Huh? I don't post pics on MTBR. MTBR is reserved for *****ing about the weather and tattletailing.

    (P.S. I had a Maxxis Minion on my "I have a small penis" bike, and the thing was bombproof. I'm not sure if what "ply" it was.)
    Small penis is related to haven driven a toyota prius, not a Kona!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Small penis is related to haven driven a toyota prius, not a Kona!
    I think you're confused: the larger the car, the smaller the cock.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Please explain how single-speed is related to a tire question? Dang racer boys and their one track minds.
    Modern day Flagellants.
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    Casual-what's your take on ss 650B?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    I think you're confused: the larger the car, the smaller the cock.
    I stand by my comment. Electric cars omit electrical waves that shrink objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Casual-what's your take on ss 650B?
    Fking Euros. Stick to inches!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Fking Euros. Stick to inches!!!!!!!!!
    I hear your dog chewing on your racer jersey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    I hear your dog chewing on your racer jersey!
    I don't even know what this means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KavuRider View Post
    its just that "jebus point" between them that can catch you off guard.
    Why I like the Minions. I haven't heard anybody put it so eloquently before...
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    Much better at 35 PSI.

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    Not mentioned here, but a wider rim will make a big difference on low pressure allowance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterp2 View Post
    Not mentioned here, but a wider rim will make a big difference on low pressure allowance.
    Tire is mounted on a Flow rim.

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    I don't know the width, but if running a 2.5 for example, I suggest at least 25mm wide, inside rim width.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterp2 View Post
    I don't know the width, but if running a 2.5 for example, I suggest at least 25mm wide, inside rim width.
    Flow rims are 25mm wide.

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    I hear what you are saying but there is something different with the 2.5 DHF exo's. I ran a 2.4 Ardent (as wide as 2.5 minion) on my DT Swiss M480 (narrower than Flow rims) with no issues at all. I could run reasonably low psi without fear of the tire smearing off the rim. Take off the Ardent and replace with DHF (same rim) and totally different story. The DHF's sidewall just feels weak and flimsy compared to the Ardent resulting in the need for higher psi to ensure the tire stays on the rim.
    I think I may check out the highroller II next.
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    Run a 2.5 EXO on the rear on a Flow rim at @ 24 psi without any issues. Think I ran it the first ride @ 30 psi and was unbearably rigid. Don't know how you guys can stand running pressure that high. I guess I thought the main point of running tubeless was to run at low pressure for a bigger traction footprint? Maybe I don't lean the corners enough or I'm just to stoopid to notice but I've never noticed the tire folding over before.

    FYI. Also run a Speshy Butcher 2.35 on front @ 20 psi. It's like a 1.5 ply casing though.

    Combo works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsittman View Post
    Run a 2.5 EXO on the rear on a Flow rim at @ 24 psi without any issues. Think I ran it the first ride @ 30 psi and was unbearably rigid. Don't know how you guys can stand running pressure that high. I guess I thought the main point of running tubeless was to run at low pressure for a bigger traction footprint? Maybe I don't lean the corners enough or I'm just to stoopid to notice but I've never noticed the tire folding over before.

    FYI. Also run a Speshy Butcher 2.35 on front @ 20 psi. It's like a 1.5 ply casing though.

    Combo works for me.
    Well for me I weight more than the avg racer boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Well for me I weight more than the avg racer boy.
    Foot out flat out
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    Exactly, weight, terrain, and ability has everything to do with it. Apples>>>>Cumquats.

    If you are big, get dual-ply.
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    For what its worth Im 200lbs myself. That being said, like Ive mentioned previously, I have/am running the Ardent and an Ikon exo at 23 and 26 psi respectively, with no issue so Im not sure saying "big guys" need to run dual ply holds true.
    I actually read several posts during my research of the DHF 2.5 that a lot of people have the same problem. Seems very common to have to keep the psi up in these tires. Think I read this in the All-Mtn forum regardless I figured Id give them a shot but all in all Im not too happy with them fit wise. I actually have to use a Stan's rim strip to even mount them whereas Ive never had an issue with the Ardent on the same rim (i.e no rim strip). Cycle64 I think its just the way it is. Im hoping the Maxxis TR lineup is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douger-1 View Post
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    Keep us updated on the HR2 when you try them. Been interested in those but haven't heard much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douger-1 View Post
    For what its worth Im 200lbs myself. That being said, like Ive mentioned previously, I have/am running the Ardent and an Ikon exo at 23 and 26 psi respectively, with no issue so Im not sure saying "big guys" need to run dual ply holds true.
    I actually read several posts during my research of the DHF 2.5 that a lot of people have the same problem. Seems very common to have to keep the psi up in these tires. Think I read this in the All-Mtn forum regardless I figured Id give them a shot but all in all Im not too happy with them fit wise. I actually have to use a Stan's rim strip to even mount them whereas Ive never had an issue with the Ardent on the same rim (i.e no rim strip). Cycle64 I think its just the way it is. Im hoping the Maxxis TR lineup is better.
    I like the performance of the tire just not the wobble. I should have known better than to listen to AZDog. PMP will tear up a thin side wall like that. Guess I sell it to Dog for 10% over cost. Back to Specy I guess, never had this issue with their tires even the 800 gram versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    I like the performance of the tire just not the wobble. I should have known better than to listen to AZDog. PMP will tear up a thin side wall like that. Guess I sell it to Dog for 10% over cost. Back to Specy I guess, never had this issue with their tires even the 800 gram versions.
    Go with the Butcher SX. Pretty much a clone to the DHF but beefier sidewalls. Think it's b/w 800-900 grams in 2.3 size. Same size/volume as the 2.5 DHF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsittman View Post
    Go with the Butcher SX. Pretty much a clone to the DHF but beefier sidewalls. Think it's b/w 800-900 grams in 2.3 size. Same size/volume as the 2.5 DHF.
    950 grams and it looks similar as stated. Would have been nice if they had it in a GRID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    950 grams and it looks similar as stated. Would have been nice if they had it in a GRID.
    Didn't think they were quite that heavy...my bad. I think they roll well though for their weight. Came off Speshy Chunder SX front and rear before this combo and that felt like I was hauling a couple boat anchors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsittman View Post
    Didn't think they were quite that heavy...my bad. I think they roll well though for their weight. Came off Speshy Chunder SX front and rear before this combo and that felt like I was hauling a couple boat anchors.
    I'll live with a 950 gram tire for pedal rides. Just not wanting a 1400 gram tire to have something that does not wobble like crazy. If I had a girlish figure like AZDog! I guess it would be a good tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    I should have known better than to listen to AZDog. PMP will tear up a thin side wall like that. .
    Ya wobble but added grip and extremely predictable. No matter what we tell you, you will find problems with it. It's a lose/lose. haha!!!
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