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    Lions

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    taken where and when?

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    now thats a big kitty.

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    I'm gonna strap me some meat on my pack next time out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    taken where and when?
    Granite mountain area this am.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Nice. I've seen evidence in Granite Basin myself.
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    Enel, thanks for the little reminder...nice pics did you find your camera?
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    Thats weird, Mt. Lions only have four toes, that one looks to have five. Bears have five, so be careful, it could be a black bear. I feel like a scientist........

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    What he said. Most likely a black bear.

    There are definitely big cats out there though. A buddy and I saw one that must have been 120 lbs up near Payson earlier in the year.

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    Isn’t this the lion that was hit in Northern Arizona?

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...in_lion_wv.htm

    Edit, I just read the info on the article, it was the kitty hit in AZ.

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    Very nice picture. Always enjoyable to encounter this kind of thing on the trail.
    But... no heel dimple, a pretty deep impression, and five very symetrical toes. My money is on front paw of a small black bear.

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    Bears can't retract their claws, so you usually see a clawprint too- which you can sort of make out on the left toe print. The back paw of a bear looks more like a human foot, so would have to be a front paw if its a bear. Would be a small bear too, which is all we really have in AZ.

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    Befoot: Nope, got a new camera. Glad I had it for this.

    A bear was my first inclination, but where are the claw marks? Stupid me, I didn't count the toes until just now. Just saw the shape, and size, lack of claws and assumed lion. Maybe Chupacabra?

    Super neat for me to see this anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA Monkeybutt
    Isnít this the lion that was hit in Northern Arizona?

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...in_lion_wv.htm

    Edit, I just read the info on the article, it was the kitty hit in AZ.
    That lion was hit just north of Prescott.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottmilk9
    Thats weird, Mt. Lions only have four toes, that one looks to have five. Bears have five, so be careful, it could be a black bear. I feel like a scientist........
    We have a winner. I did some more research and would say definitely a bear front left foot with the claw marks not showing.

    Need to re-title the thread.

    Thanks for the education. I am apparently not Grizzly Adams (although I remember loving that show).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukedante
    Bears can't retract their claws, so you usually see a clawprint too- which you can sort of make out on the left toe print. The back paw of a bear looks more like a human foot, so would have to be a front paw if its a bear. Would be a small bear too, which is all we really have in AZ.
    Black bears seldom show their claws. Big Browns (grizzly bears) definately can't retract their claws and leave behind giant prints with gnarly hints to the size of their claws.

    Velokid and I did our share of guiding mountain bike tours in some pretty thick bear country in coastal Alaska where the brown bears get massive. Not uncommon up there to see a brown bear print the size of a helmet. Spoooooky.

    That's pretty cool, Enel. I've only seen one bear around here and it was lanky and skinny like a thick dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverbiker
    That's pretty cool, Enel. I've only seen one bear around here and it was lanky and skinny like a thick dog.
    I actually didn't even know we had bears in these parts. That photo was on the Moto trail that climbs from Contreras Rd to trail 37.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    nah, no kitty or bear.
    i think it's from the ever-elusive chupacabra

    but seriously, i did see a similar print this past wednesday on trail 347.
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    Hi guys,
    I have heard of bears over by Walker getting into trash cans and
    I think Matthew said he's seen one over by his house in Wildwood (Granite basin Rd and Iron Spring Rd) so they are out there.


    Enel Glad to hear you got a new camera...mine just took a dump :[

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    A riding buddy of ours works the beat for the Forest Service and sees bears fairly frequently all over the area, actually. I'd love to see one for old time's sake.

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    I actually didn't even know we had bears in these parts.
    A few years back (8 or 9 maybe) I came to the intersection of Ocotillo and Alma School in Chandler. There were a few police cars on the N.E. corner and a bunch of people standing around looking into a tree. Perched about 15 feet up in that tree was a black bear. No joke.

    Later reports had said the the drought had driven the wildlife down into the Valley but how in the heck does a bear get into the middle of Chandler??? It's not like coming across a lion or small cat at Hawes. That I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride
    but how in the heck does a bear get into the middle of Chandler???
    simple, he was prolly headed to the 24 HOP and someone stole his bike while he took a nap on the tree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    I actually didn't even know we had bears in these parts. That photo was on the Moto trail that climbs from Contreras Rd to trail 37.
    Near Safford, it's supposed to have the densest population of black bears in the southwest. I've camped there many times and have seen only one, but have seen tracks and scat several times, including on Grant Hill, one of the 2 designated mountain bike trails. Several trails in the range are rideable, a few all the way to the valley from 10670' mountain. Most descents will begin around 9000' as the top of the mountain isn't easy accessed, but can be with a hard road climb. Go in June, before monsoons or after in September. Storms are nasty there, steep mountain.
    Only reason I saw the bear this year is the JERKS who camped where I was before my arrival tossed a half a watermelon, an apple and grapes around the camp site. A porcupine showed up to eat the melon at 3am. Bears have very good noses, better than dogs.
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