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    I'm new to PHX, so help me out (NBC)

    I am not from Phoenix, so I am a nubile in the way the rules and social codes work around here. That being said, I am confused.

    WTF is with the people in this town? Between the self-entitled *******s, the people doing 54 in a 65, and the holier than thou riders, I am just at a loss.

    I come from a place with a community, both in the light and in the dark. Certain things are just not tolerated from my previous zipcode. But down here, its like part of the show.

    Is it me? Do I need to mellow out, learn to love snow-birds and self entitled mexicans, or should I bring out my spiked baseball bat and go back to whipping ass?

    Sorry, had to get that out. If you get to know me you'll find I tend to just say whatever is bouncing around upstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I am not from Phoenix, so I am a nubile in the way the rules and social codes work around here. That being said, I am confused.

    WTF is with the people in this town? Between the self-entitled *******s, the people doing 54 in a 65, and the holier than thou riders, I am just at a loss.

    I come from a place with a community, both in the light and in the dark. Certain things are just not tolerated from my previous zipcode. But down here, its like part of the show.

    Is it me? Do I need to mellow out, learn to love snow-birds and self entitled mexicans, or should I bring out my spiked baseball bat and go back to whipping ass?

    Sorry, had to get that out. If you get to know me you'll find I tend to just say whatever is bouncing around upstairs.
    I think you said in another post that your from Tahoe? This is small town vs. big city syndrome. I'm from a small ski town in Colorado (pop. 3000, w/ visitors up to 150,000)
    When I first moved here I had no desire to speed on the local streets, freeways are different, and being that it was a small town you just yelled out your window for a ride, no need for internet.
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    Jib has it right. While here- it seems to be many citizens goal to see how few people they actually need to look in the eye during a normal day. (get in car, open garage, go to work, drivehome, stop at storeuse self checkout, open garage, close gargage, get out of car, enter house, do not leave it)

    Also, there are too many people in this town that came from humble roots and low income that suddenly have income and think they are righ (see-many residents on outskirts of town-ghetto fabulous is what I call them here in G-town). You will recognize those as the ones with the So-Cal stickers in their lifted F250 truck that never towed and now runs on stock size tires, with that big lift. Lots of selfishness.

    I spent lots of time in my last vocation traveling everywhere but here. And I noticed that towns with less than 1.5-2 million people were better-much better. In fact- Tucson has more soul that Phoenix. This place is a saltine cracker. But alas- I remain. Wife, lots of her family, her career and now a new grandchild for them to pore over means I get to stay. SO I decided to try to buck the trend when I can. There are many others that do as well- they are just hard to find. Welcome to Phoenix- don't become onne of them!
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    There are a lot of people here, so it's easy to find bad ones.
    If somebody drives bad so what.
    If one of them has a bad attitude so what.
    I've met some of the coolest people in the world here, and I've met some of the biggest jerk offs here.
    I have lived in quite a few places and this is where I'm staying I like it here.
    Great trails, good free ways, mountains close by ( I can go to snow but don't have to live in it ), Great restaurants, I got a lot of house for my money, Ect., Ect., Ect.
    I have never lived some where where there was no crappy drivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    self entitled*******s

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    self entitled mexicans
    Let me guess. You're not mexican?

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    And, a further guess, not "self-entitled" either. Though, really, the term is simply "entitled."

    Nubile? Really. Mmmmmm...

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    who cares... do your thing and let everyone else be a ******.

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    I'm pretty new here too, and I actually think this is a pretty relaxed place. Of course...I moved here from Chicago...where 55 means 75, yellow means speed up, and the finger is the international sign for...well...ANYTHING. I personally like a city where people don't have to speed everywhere; where you can go to an outside bar year round and just relax. In Chicago, everything's fast, FAst, FAST!!! I love that I can slow down here and just enjoy life. Or take a cruise in the mountains on my motorcycle instead of on the Dan Ryan hoping I don't hit a pothole or get hit by a car who thinks that theyr'e entitled to 2 lanes of road. I work for a bank, and it's DEAD here on Saturdays. In Chicago, not only is our busiest day Saturday, but EVERYBODY complains that we're not open on Sunday.

    This is just my opinion, but I can see where coming from a really small town things here are going to piss you off. There's more culture and more people; which means more *******s and people who annoy the crap out of you.

    Oh...but the thing that pisses me off the most...are the people who are from Arizona who think they're the most entitled people ever because they were born here. Like it's a bragging right. STFU, your parents weren't born here, and even if they WERE, their parents weren't.

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    It is a big deal,cuz 90% of people here aren't from here.It's kind of a local joke.So if you hear it for the rest of the time you live here,don't get too bent outta shape.
    Ive lived most everywhere too.This ain't the place for everyone,but some of us actually like it here.
    The only entitled mexicans I've seen are the ones on tv from california who come over here to protest.Most can work circles around you and me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I am not from Phoenix, so I am a nubile in the way the rules and social codes work around here. That being said, I am confused.

    WTF is with the people in this town? Between the self-entitled *******s, the people doing 54 in a 65, and the holier than thou riders, I am just at a loss.

    I come from a place with a community, both in the light and in the dark. Certain things are just not tolerated from my previous zipcode. But down here, its like part of the show.

    Is it me? Do I need to mellow out, learn to love snow-birds and self entitled mexicans, or should I bring out my spiked baseball bat and go back to whipping ass?

    Sorry, had to get that out. If you get to know me you'll find I tend to just say whatever is bouncing around upstairs.

    No, its not just you. Thats the general mentality around here. everyone is so self absorbed by their own self importance that they will cut you off leaving circle K. And god forbid you try to be courteous and let some into your lane of traffic to exit without some a$$hatt laying on the horn cause you made him .000987535377365353 seconds late to work to pay for his overpriced, upside-down track home and his wifes fake t!ts.

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    until last year,, i thought circle K was just a made-up place for the bill & ted movies...


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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    until last year,, i thought circle K was just a made-up place for the bill & ted movies...
    When I was younger I thought the same thing...then on a family vacation we went to one and I thought it was the most bad@$$ thing ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    No, its not just you. Thats the general mentality around here. everyone is so self absorbed by their own self importance that they will cut you off leaving circle K. And god forbid you try to be courteous and let some into your lane of traffic to exit without some a$$hatt laying on the horn cause you made him .000987535377365353 seconds late to work to pay for his overpriced, upside-down track home and his wifes fake t!ts.
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    Scary- back up a bit man- you KNOW who I am talking about-comment on the whole sentence and not just what you pick out. And that wasn't a generalization at all- I think that besides putting up pics and naming names- I nailed it-not you. OR-maybe your post wasn't directed back to me. When you are as awesome as me- that just happens. This face used to cash checks- this dik-WHOOOO!
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    I get so much crap for my truck from our "crowd".I could really care less,i take all in jest,but there are alot of presumptions on peoples part.My small penis aside,it actually has some practical purposes.Plus I can't drive like I normally would in a more agile vehicle.
    I should get a slightly smaller"SKIN" rear window decal though.I can't see anything behind me.
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    Not to be all "we are the world" here, but I've lived in many places, the West, mid-West, and the South....

    And at the end of the day, people are pretty much the same everywhere, period, full stop. Everywhere: people are self absorbed, drive bad, live beyond their means, text while driving, drive lifted trucks (although in the south, you get more stars and bars on the back), and go through life with their own prejudices.

    I'm glad the OP seems to be inordinately concerned with what he calls "Mexicans" (although it's not totally clear if he actually means people from Mexico, legally or illegally, or Americans with ancestors from Mexico), but.....is it possible that the OP himself is actually making life here in fair Phoenix a little less tolerable for others?

    I'm the last person to tell you to go back where you came from, but if you're going to blame your sour disposition on your current location and those who live there....why stay?

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    Tattooo and DJake… why did you move here in the first place?

    I am a native. My wife's a native and my parents came here in 1946. Her parents came here as little children in the late 1920s.

    My Mother picked the place by throwing a dart at a map with her best friend when they were ready to get out of Iowa. My Father was looking for a place where he could earn a living outside of a factory.

    My wife's Mother's parents came here because the Doctor told them that the dry climate was the only hope for her Tuberculosis.

    The city has definitely changed, some ways for the better but mostly not. Most of the negative changes including the big city attitude have at their root the fact that too many people have and are moving here. The Phoenix metropolitan area has 5 times as many people as it did when I was 20.

    That said Phoenix is still the best major metropolitan area to be a mountain biker in. We have the two largest city parks in the USA and they are both nearly completely open to mountain bikes. I went by a dozen hikers today on the PMP and every single one of them was friendly. Add the other trail systems like Pima & Dynamite, MSP, BCT, Hawes, White Tanks, Estrella, McDowell’s and you have a very rare convergence of big city opportunity and a ton of readily accessible riding.

    As long as the city and County continue to recognize that open space is a critical element of the quality of life here it’s going to be OK. The danger is that the quality of life will draw more people if we don’t do something to control the growth.
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    scary, you mean to tell me my lifted F-350 isn't agile? But the the train horns are for when I get cut off towing the 40ft toyhauler. No skin stickers here though( well not skin, fox, or anything else... just my arizona powerstroke group sticker and fire sticker).

    Whats wrong with lifted trucks anyways? too hard to see around? Like scary said... aside from my small penis I ride and feel extremely safe in a big firetruck so guess what I have a big truck for my personal car and my wife has one of the biggest SUV's for safety reasons. I've seen what your "safe" compact cars do in a wreck... I'll willingly pay for the added gas...

    But I agree with so far everyone else. I'm from Tucson and there's ass hats everywhere. But drive safe, be respectful and your good to go! Lets go ride....

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    maybe tatooo moved in order to ride at fantasy island.. for more complicated trails instead of just riding dee-plainn ones.

    its cheap as hell to move to AZ right now, so get ready for new peeps to snatch up some real estate.

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    I'm just trying to figure out where you actually saw a snow-bird in August here in the valley? Me thinks you have troll-o-vision.........because obviously, you know nothing about the valley if you imply that snowbirds are out and about in August here.......


    Just sayin'.....but have a Great Day nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I am not from Phoenix, so I am a nubile in the way the rules and social codes work around here. That being said, I am confused.

    WTF is with the people in this town? Between the self-entitled *******s, the people doing 54 in a 65, and the holier than thou riders, I am just at a loss.

    I come from a place with a community, both in the light and in the dark. Certain things are just not tolerated from my previous zipcode. But down here, its like part of the show.

    Is it me? Do I need to mellow out, learn to love snow-birds and self entitled mexicans, or should I bring out my spiked baseball bat and go back to whipping ass?

    Sorry, had to get that out. If you get to know me you'll find I tend to just say whatever is bouncing around upstairs.
    The snow birds and Mexicans are part of your community now. Welcome to the show.

    I moved here from Boise, Idaho about five years ago and find that people here in the Phoenix area are generally quite relaxed and friendly.
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    i outright refuse to call pop 'soda'

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    I had a full on conversation, and then breakfast with a pair of snowbirds today. It was one of the more surreal moments since I moved her last week. Guy cut me off, damn near caused me to stack the truck into his rear end, and then did 10 below the limit to the exit.

    I climbed on the horn, which finally got him out of the way. He then followed me to where I was going, and I thought I was about to have a road rage moment with a 80 year old man. Not one of my proudest moments, but it was what it was, or so I thought.

    Guy came up, apologized, and offered me breakfast. He and his wife took me to some egg place, and it was the most Twilight Zone moment I've had in a long time. Summation is that it reminded me of my grandfather, who would have long stepped up to put some loafer up my ass for being mean to old people like that.

    I moved for the dumb reason of a girl. And a job.

    I'm just used to either NOLA or Reno. Quite opposites of one another, but with some rules. I was floored by the number of self absorbed folk down here, and when you call them on their ****, they tend to get downright offended about "how dare you tell ME how to behave."

    And yes, both of the individuals in question to this point have been hispanic. The whole "First YOU PEOPLE want to deport me for being brown, and now you're going to tell ME how to drive/park" didn't sit well with me. Just how I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    i outright refuse to call pop 'soda'
    Yeah,me too.No way I'm calling my dad"soda" either .Not sure why people do,but Im with you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary
    I get so much crap for my truck from our "crowd".I could really care less,i take all in jest,but there are alot of presumptions on peoples part.My small penis aside,it actually has some practical purposes.Plus I can't drive like I normally would in a more agile vehicle.
    I should get a slightly smaller"SKIN" rear window decal though.I can't see anything behind me.
    nothing wrong with a diesel truck running on vege oil or not. Its just people hating, ive had lifted trucks two seater midget cars muscle cars brand new v8 4 doors and now a Kia Soul for god sakes . But I would still like a diesel truck just for the power and to tow etc.

    Practical uses for me would be going to the dunes pulling trailers and getting better than 10mpg in a Gas truck when you can prob get 18 nomatter what you pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I'm just used to either NOLA or Reno. Quite opposites of one another, but with some rules. I was floored by the number of self absorbed folk down here, and when you call them on their ****, they tend to get downright offended about "how dare you tell ME how to behave."
    I'm curious about this particular statement. Sorry bro, but if you start telling me how to behave, I'm going to be a dick too.
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    Concur ^^^. I've found that if you mind your own business, life goes much more smoothly. With the attitude on display in this thread, I suspect the OP has this sort of issue wherever he goes. Common denominator ...

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    Wow, way to introduce yourself to our community and our city. Another person to put on my ignore list....guess I am just being a self-entitled (half) Mexican.
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    You forgot to mention those who complain about the heat in the summer. Gets hot in Phoenix in the summer, who knew?

    And yes, I was born here and know many who are 2nd, 3rd and even 4th generation native of AZ.

    I don't think anyone can place a proper label on the "culture" in Arizona because there is not "one". Sow many peolpe from so many places, it is one of the things that is great about this place. If you roll down the window, step outside and actually meet some people here your initial impression will no doubt change.

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    I'm gonna say what I think. You don't like what I have to say? Well, I don't give a ****.
    You'll find if you ever meet me I say exactly what I mean and what's on my mind. No filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I'm gonna say what I think. You don't like what I have to say? Well, I don't give a ****.
    You'll find if you ever meet me I say exactly what I mean and what's on my mind. No filter.
    SAME HERE, YOU SUCK go back to your small hole of a town

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I'm gonna say what I think. You don't like what I have to say? Well, I don't give a ****.
    You'll find if you ever meet me I say exactly what I mean and what's on my mind. No filter.
    Then you have a serious issue, and I don't like they way you're acting. I think you should rethink this philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideandshoot
    Tattooo and DJake… why did you move here in the first place?
    I was originally planning on moving to L.A. but my buddy started telling me about AZ and how awesome it is here. I came out and visited last July and despite the 115 degree heat, I fell in love with it. I love the relaxed atmosphere, and how there's tons of activities to do outside (at least most of the year). My friend and I were supposed to do the whole bachelor thing...rent a house, party, etc...but he met a girl a month before we were supposed to move. He stayed, I moved. And I freaking love it here.

    No matter where you go, there's things you'll like and dislike about the area and the people, but there's not much here that I don't like. Like I said before, the only thing I don't like is when somebody asks where I'm from, and as soon as I say Chicago, they roll their eyes and say that they're "from here" and act like I'm an ******* for moving into their state; like it's a sense of self-entitlement. I don't care how many generations your family has been here; at one point, they moved here for a job/because of weather/etc. So just because you're not the first doesn't mean you're hot **** because your family was here first. Just my .02. And by the way, I'm not attacking anybody here...just the people I've come in contact with who have given me attitude and treated me differently because my parents decided to live in Illinois.

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    And the "mexicans" are saying" Im gonna drive the way I drive .You don't like the way I drive?Well I don't give a ****"all in Spanish of course,cuz all of them only know Spanish .
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    don't fricking move anywhere just for the hell of it unless you have a job lined up

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMPhi767
    Wow, way to introduce yourself to our community and our city. Another person to put on my ignore list....guess I am just being a self-entitled (half) Mexican.
    +1. i don't dig the racism. you can count on me not to help you in any of your OT posts until you have the integrity to say you simply met an ahole. that he was of hispanic descent was a roughly 1 in 3 chance here in AZ.

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    i just moved down here from a smallish town in MN and I dig it. lived in ND for 10 years and grew up in way rural mn (think John Cougar Mell') small town.

    i think (generally) people are really friendly and laid back here. work pace is MUCH slower than Minneapolis. it blows my mind how many serious car accidents there are everyday here on interstate when the weather is 90 and sunny...if they had to drive in a ND winter the ER would be full.

    I certainly miss some of the things in Minneapolis, but I've only been here a couple months so I need to give it some time.

    riding down here is fun and technical....i miss dirt singletrack under 100 year old shade trees...don't miss the humidity though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I'm gonna say what I think. You don't like what I have to say? Well, I don't give a ****.
    You'll find if you ever meet me I say exactly what I mean and what's on my mind. No filter.
    I know a lot of people who think like this.
    most of them young.
    After a few verbal and physical a$$ kickings, You will learn to create a filter (respect).
    Look at some of the responses to that attitude already.
    Continue without a filter (respect) you'll be homeless. I don't think too many people will be willing to give you any money without a filter (respect) though.
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    You've been here a week and already caused this much trouble?

    That might be a record Dirt.

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    This thread is lusciously full o hate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    don't fricking move anywhere just for the hell of it unless you have a job lined up

    I moved from Colo. to cali for a job. After sometime I was once again tired of Cali so I packed up and was heading back to Colo. when for some damn reason I just decided to stop 13 years later I am still here. Didn't have any family here, a job or a place to stay.

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    ...hate, it's the new love.
    Yesterday starts tomorrow, tomorrow starts today, and the problem seems to be we're picking up the pieces on the ricochet

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    This thread is lusciously full o hate.
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    This thread needs a little...

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    Very nice!

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    my what a lovely happy trail you have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    don't fricking move anywhere just for the hell of it unless you have a job lined up
    That's why I moved. Sorry to beat a local out of a job from across the country....but I'm an Arizonan now....

    Although I do miss the miles and miles of paved, and mostly empty, country roads that snake throughout Indiana. Arizona? What paved country roads? So, had to switch to MTB....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxChem
    That's why I moved. Sorry to beat a local out of a job from across the country....but I'm an Arizonan now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Do you piss sand? Then you're not a true Zonie.
    actually northern indiana has some wicked forested sand dunes. not bikable, but racing up a 300' hill of sand with a 60 degree grade is enough to make you puke. running down is super fun too.

    PHXchem: i own my own business , I don't work for anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    actually northern indiana has some wicked forested sand dunes. not bikable, but racing up a 300' hill of sand with a 60 degree grade is enough to make you puke. running down is super fun too.

    PHXchem: i own my own business , I don't work for anyone else.
    But are the temps 130, and the only water is the mirage in the horizon?

    (Would this be Indian Dunes near Chesterton/Gary?)
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    After my ride with the Burgundy Van gang today, I want to take back a lot of what I said about AZ.

    Yes, a lot of y'all can't drive.
    Yes, as a city of (mostly) imports its very hard to find "community" here.
    Yes, there are a lot of self entitled pricks in this town. Evidently y'all needed one more, so I came to town.

    That all being said, if more of you are like the bunch I met today, I think I am going to like this place for the next three to five years.

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    Oh no!....you rode with those guys?You need to aim higher than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    After my ride with the Burgundy Van gang today, I want to take back a lot of what I said about AZ.

    Yes, a lot of y'all can't drive.
    Yes, as a city of (mostly) imports its very hard to find "community" here.
    Yes, there are a lot of self entitled pricks in this town. Evidently y'all needed one more, so I came to town.

    That all being said, if more of you are like the bunch I met today, I think I am going to like this place for the next three to five years.
    Alright, I guess I will take you off the ignore list. In person, you weren't half bad. Sorry about the crash man. You should have just gone down Geronimo with Ben and I instead of that National crap.
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    Hey, this has turned into a feel-good thread now. I feel all warm on the inside. ......or maybe its just the Longhammers......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary
    Oh no!....you rode with those guys?You need to aim higher than that.
    Scary...we take them all even you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMPhi767
    Alright, I guess I will take you off the ignore list. In person, you weren't half bad. Sorry about the crash man. You should have just gone down Geronimo with Ben and I instead of that National crap.
    I'm gonna work on the Intense SS for the next couple days, get it ready to roll again. Little Stans and a shock at Push should do the trick. Think I'll roll down Geronimo with y'all next time. 24th ate my lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoooo
    I'm gonna work on the Intense SS for the next couple days, get it ready to roll again. Little Stans and a shock at Push should do the trick. Think I'll roll down Geronimo with y'all next time. 24th ate my lunch.
    Don't worry, there is a different trail called Holbert with more gnar than 24th

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike
    maybe tatooo moved in order to ride at fantasy island.. for more complicated trails instead of just riding dee-plainn ones.

    its cheap as hell to move to AZ right now, so get ready for new peeps to snatch up some real estate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoplea
    This thread needs a little...

    SWEEEEEEEET skid, dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Yesterday Kicked Axe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by latedropbob
    Scary...we take them all even you!!!
    I said HE needed to aim higher,not me.
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