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    I just don't get Strava.

    First let me say that I'm not a regular Strava user. I'm too lazy to bother recording and downloading rides and I generally don't give a damn about what other people are doing or how fast they are, nor am I interested in sharing my mediocre riding with the world.

    I first used Strava a couple of years ago because it was suggested for an AES race. I never logged on again after I posted my race data. Since then I've heard so many people talk about how awesome it is I figured maybe I should give it a second look. I decided to try to use it a second time since I had a GPS on for the whole AES McDowell 70 race last weekend.

    The first thing I discovered was that I had forgotten my username and password. A few more links, screens and emails and I had that figured out then I discovered that Strava doesn't support my Garmin device (60csx). That would normally end my interest in it but I figured so many people think it is so awesome I ought to try a little harder. After several additional software downloads and updates I was finally able to upload my track indirectly then saw that Strava made it twice as long as it really was. I couldn't figure out how that happened because all the other data was correct. I never even followed through with posting it because I was already bored but then I couldn't figure out how to delete it so I just logged out. So, today I get an email saying my track, or whatever they call it, has been flagged as being suspect. I never even finished posting it so who knows how that happened. I went ahead and followed the links they provided to see what was up but the website is so unintuitive it took me 5 minutes just to figure out how to delete it. There was no info as to why it had been flagged or who flagged it. I also noticed that my AES race from a couple years ago was still there and had also been flagged. What the heck is that about? Do Strava users routinely go around policing other peoples rides? That data was all correct so I guess somebody couldn't accept that an old guy like me could ride that far?

    So my two experiences with Strava leave me thinking why the hell would anybody bother?

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    ...never had any of those problems with it or any others for that matter.

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    Yeah, it works fine for me. I've used both the iphone app and now upload via my Garmin 510. Simple and quick. The only time I've had anything flagged was when I left it running while driving back after a ride.
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    does mtbr have a bot that automatically inserts a qualifier paragraph stating "I'm not competitive and I don't care how my times compare to others" every time it detects the word Strava ?

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    I've not had any issues with Strava in 18 months of use. Run it on my iPhone. Don't give up on it yet, you may find some value in it once you work through these issues.

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    If there are a large number of KOMs, or a section or two that you beat the previous KOM by a large margin, it may be flagged automatically by the system. This is because it thinks you may have used a vehicle. Not uncommon, as people often forget to turn it off before driving home or shuttling up a mountain. It's pretty easy to raise the issue with support and explain what happened. They can fix the problem if it happens at the start or end of the ride, but not in the middle.

    In reality, it's similar to just about any other piece of technology. It takes time to learn how to use it. Less time if you use devices with the strava app installed and don't encounter any flagable activities.

    BTW, if your activity is flagged, you can leave it that way indefinitely if desired. The data remains, but your times just don't get added to the individual segments' leader board. No big deal if you're not trying to be competitive with others.

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    But you felt the need to come here and complain about it?

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    you should try endomondo, or "my tracks". both apps work great on my android phone, and are better for a rider who is happy with just wanting to know his ride stats.
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    It gets pretty simple after you figure out how to get your gpx files into Strava with your setup. I use a smartphone with an app (not the Strava app) that creates a gpx files which I just email to the Strava upload email address and that's it. It's pretty easy and the cumulative stats you get are a nice thing to have.

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    If you don't like the Strava experience, why not try Garmin Connect. I use both just because I have a ton of history with Strava.

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    The 60 series isn't supported in Garmin Connect.

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    "does mtbr have a bot that automatically inserts a qualifier paragraph stating "I'm not competitive and I don't care how my times compare to others" every time it detects the word Strava ?"

    AND THIS
    "But you felt the need to come here and complain about it?

    Works fine for me…"
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    I get it. My club members and I use it to one up each other with an e-file record of such, flip each other crap when we KOM or beat their time, catch people blowing through stop signs on epic down hills, and general hooligan-ery on shared trails. What's not to get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
    I get it. My club members and I use it to one up each other with an e-file record of such, flip each other crap when we KOM or beat their time, catch people blowing through stop signs on epic down hills, and general hooligan-ery on shared trails. What's not to get?
    I wonder if we could get a hoolligan-ery stoke thread started... sounds epic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twowheelchris View Post
    I'm too lazy to bother recording and downloading rides and I generally don't give a damn about what other people are doing or how fast they are, nor am I interested in sharing my mediocre riding with the world.

    I first used Strava a couple of years ago because it was suggested for an AES race. ?
    SOOO, you don't wan to compete but yet you participate in RACES?

    Is it still cool to hate on Strava?

    The fact is that it's a free app. It tracks your miles, elevation etc.If you don't like being compared to others turn that feature off.
    The best part of Strava is getting ideas for rides that are appropriate for you - download the gpx and follow it. I don't get much time to ride, so proper planning is crucial. Knowing the completion time, average speed and the way is very helpful.

    Now if you are in to racing - Strava allows you to race for free whenever you want. Comparison to other riders on different segments in an invaluable tool for race training.

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    Fart in a paper bag, after eating the #17 plate from filibertos. STRAVA!

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    Sorry if I hit a nerve there SSdirt29. Did you really have to post three times to put me in my place? Nice ass by the way. Is that yours? Every time one of my friends asks me if I'm on Strava I always feel so inferior and out of it. I have now been sufficiently chastised for even binging it up. Maybe I am just not Strava material.

    I'm not a Strava hater, yet. It would take too much energy to hate it anyway. I'm just tying to figure it out and understand why it is so popular. I figured I'd be open minded and give it a try and see what it has to offer. I posted here not to troll or get flamed but to see if somebody can explain to me what I'm doing wrong and how to take advantage of whatever it has to offer. So far it has been frustrating and not very user friendly and I haven't even been able to really give it a full try.

    I imagine it could be good to compare my rides from one time to the next and keep track of stuff. I suppose it would be nice to compare my performance to a pile of other people who are probably faster, fitter, younger and more dedicated than me. I'm not the kind of guy who gives other people crap for their performance though. I know there are plenty of people who can shut me down so it is better to keep it to myself. I do like to race because it is fun to get out there to chase and be chased. It isn't about winning or beating some particular person, I really don't have much chance of that. It definitely makes me push harder to have competition and it adds a certain excitement to what might otherwise be a mundane route. Sure it feels good to do well and compare my performance to others but mostly it is fun to race, in real time, with real people, that I can see and talk to. Still, I can see that virtual racing could be fun.

    I suppose I could use my phone instead of my ancient GPS but I usually do rides long enough that the phone GPS runs the battery down.

    Maybe I'll try it again. I'll be sure to post up here if successful so you guys can make fun of me. Unfortunately I don't even know yet how to tell people where to find me on Strava.

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    Seeing I'm 175th out of 200 on a section is pointless. Seeing how I'm improving my own times is great...

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    Re: I just don't get Strava.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Seeing I'm 175th out of 200 on a section is pointless. Seeing how I'm improving my own times is great...
    Yup that's all it is for me, a tool to see where I'm improving and where I'm not. If I focused on where I ranked overall, I'd be depressed I Love setting personal records for myself, best part of strava

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    Strava, if you don't like it, don't use it.

    I don't like Brussels sprout but I don't feel a need to create a thread proclaiming that either.
    Instead, I just don't eat them.

    For me, I like it. Probably for different reasons than others.
    I know I will never kom, I have ridden with guys that can and they are half my age and ride as much almost every day as I do in a week. I just like to see how many miles I ride and although it is pointless comparing segments in my area for mountain biking as they continually change not to mention the fact that I may ride that trail on warm up today, at my peak the next time, and when I am to the point of fatigue the time after that.

    As far as accuracy goes, mine is pretty much dead on every time (use on Droid Bionic).
    I have compared it to odometer in my work truck, personal vehicles, and with Garmin on dash GPS. Of course there will be minor discrepancies between them all but we are talking maybe 1/10 of a mile.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Hey, twowheelchris, I totally get your comments and took no offense to the timbre of your thread. Seemed sincere without attitude. Stravarians who are Richard heads would be Richard Heads with or w/o strava. I don't get earbuds .............. compressed music 7mm from your ear drum ... and you can't communicate with them ... seems a bit selfish ... as I approach a rider from behind ...Hey how ya doin"? no response .....Can I pass when you get a chance?.... (no response) ... repeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90minIPA View Post
    I don't get earbuds .............. compressed music 7mm from your ear drum ... and you can't communicate with them ... seems a bit selfish ... as I approach a rider from behind ...Hey how ya doin"? no response .....Can I pass when you get a chance?.... (no response) ... repeat
    I give the polite approach at first but when I realize they are in their own little world because of the ear buds, I just pass often startling them. They will eventually figure out to turn it down, leave one ear bud out or just turn it off. If they get pissed, I would tell them to turn the music off and they won't have a problem.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    I just ride. I don't feel the need to improve times, just improve enjoyment.

    I don't Strava either.

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    funny, before strava, I used garmin connect since I was interested in seeing how much I rode and how much elevation I climbed. I'd look at my HR data only to get a feel for how hard I worked in a ride or climbing a hill.
    Strava initially was a pretty bad "data logger", but the virtual race functionality brought new life to "training" for me. I find it hard to do intervals, but really enjoy finding a segment that requires significant effort and hitting it hard. So for me, it made "training" a bit more fun since there was an immediate return for hard work. Now, strava and some of the other tools that access your stava data(ie, raceshape.com, veloviewer.com) allow even better analysis and can help you find where you loose time wrt another rider. I think for people trying to get faster, it's a great way to find your weaknesses(and thus improve on them) and not just have actual races to do so.
    If you enjoy just getting out and riding, then I'm not sure why you'd ever want to use strava. If you're a paying member, you can download other peoples rides which is a great feature if you're into patching together gpx files for rides. But then again, garmin connect will let you do that for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
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    Didn't seem to work.

    Maybe you missed some brackets or something?

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    I just don't get Strava.

    Just got back from a ride. Earbuds in the whole time. Uploading to Strava in a second here. Wore Lycra. Loved it.

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    I would think the fact that slower riders would be less likely to be on strava (and I totally understand why) would make the strava user base a biased sample of all riders ....

    Or maybe I am stating the obvious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    I would think the fact that slower riders would be less likely to be on strava
    I don't know if slower riders are less likely to use Strava.
    I am not a rocket and probably sit within the 10-20% faster riders on Strava in an area with a large user base. Maybe if slower riders aren't on it, it is because they are newer riders and are not aware of Strava yet.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    I like uploading my ride and seeing where I've ridden. Also, setting goals for yourself and accomplishing them. I do have one King of the Mountain, believe it or not. But, I anticipate many more once I move to Utah, since there are so fewer bikers up there and not a segment in every nook and cranny like here in Phoenix. What is less enjoyable is seeing how much faster everyone is than me. But, people tell me I am too big to be a fast cyclist (6'2 and 220 pounds)

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    I love Strava and I'm generally in the bottom 10% on every segment I've ridden. I've just started riding after a 20+ year layoff and I'm severely out of shape. I like the how Strava allows me to track my progress.

    Does it sting to see how slow I am compared to Strava leaders? Of course it does. But, that's part of the motivation. And in the end I'm still out there getting it done.

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    I pass a lot of riders when I ride. I used to be nice and just buzz their back tire with my front tire to signal that I wanted to pass. Sometimes, it took a full "pit maneuver".

    I have since changed my tactic to screaming "STRAVA!!!" and that seems to work too. Sometimes, though, I have to repeat with "MUTHA FUHKA!!" afterwards.

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    I like Strava to track my progress on segments that I ride frequently. It allows me to judge whether I am improving on skills or areas that test my ability. I never compare to the top riders because I am not that fast and I know it.

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    I'm not super competitive, but I have found I can train better for the different events I want to do by using it. I don't really care about KOM's but I do find myself racing my own previous times quite a bit, and it's always interesting to see where I stand against other Strava folks. I don't understand the people who get hyper-competitive about it and I find it beyond irritating when I read stories about trails being altered to improve strava times.

    Personally, I've only used the phone app, I've found it to be easy to use and usually a believable number for distance, vert etc... I did have an issue with it crashing a few times, but that was about it. I can say that I was surprised how little vert some of my favorite rides were and I also think it's cool to see what adding a few extra hills here and there does to my regular rides. The segment and activity search is great for finding trails when you're visiting new areas.

    Like everything, it comes with pros and cons. Some people will hate the idea of tracking their rides, others will benefit from it and like it. The purist in me hates it, but the stats addict side of me can't help but turn it on before each ride.

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    I tried again but still no luck. I downloaded my most recent ridet to Topofusion since Strava doesn't support my Garmin device but when I uploaded the track to Strava it was rejected because it didn't contain any time info. Still trying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Patrick View Post
    I pass a lot of riders when I ride. I used to be nice and just buzz their back tire with my front tire to signal that I wanted to pass. Sometimes, it took a full "pit maneuver".

    I have since changed my tactic to screaming "STRAVA!!!" and that seems to work too. Sometimes, though, I have to repeat with "MUTHA FUHKA!!" afterwards.

    I don't use Strava or a GPS. Nope. Spidey sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twowheelchris View Post
    I tried again but still no luck. I downloaded my most recent ridet to Topofusion since Strava doesn't support my Garmin device but when I uploaded the track to Strava it was rejected because it didn't contain any time info. Still trying...
    Use Garmin Mapsource to transfer the data from the GPS. Save the file with just the track (no waypoints, routes, or maps selected) as type "GPX". You'll have to change this, as the default type is "GDB". Then upload to Strava. I've done it this way a few times with my 60CSX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twowheelchris View Post
    I tried again but still no luck. I downloaded my most recent ridet to Topofusion since Strava doesn't support my Garmin device but when I uploaded the track to Strava it was rejected because it didn't contain any time info. Still trying...
    If you don't care about yours or anyone else's times, Why don't you just use Garmin Connect?

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    I just don't get Strava.

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    I don't like Brussels sprout but I don't feel a need to create a thread proclaiming that either.
    Instead, I just don't eat them. .
    Now you have done it. I was once like you but now enjoy brussels sprouts. If I don't convert you I have failed, and will be judged harshly by the Hesus, the president of BSAS, the Brussel Sprout Advocating Society.




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    I just don't get Strava.

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    Now you have done it. I was once like you but now enjoy brussels sprouts. If I don't convert you I have failed, and will be judged harshly by the Hesus, the president of BSAS, the Brussel Sprout Advocating Society.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Patrick View Post
    I pass a lot of riders when I ride. I used to be nice and just buzz their back tire with my front tire to signal that I wanted to pass. Sometimes, it took a full "pit maneuver".

    I have since changed my tactic to screaming "STRAVA!!!" and that seems to work too. Sometimes, though, I have to repeat with "MUTHA FUHKA!!" afterwards.

    I don't use Strava or a GPS. Nope. Spidey sense.
    Funny thing is that is kind of an ongoing joke with people I know.
    I often yell Strava when coming up behind the or if I am heading towards somebody I know.
    I do use Strava but really don't care about KOMs. It has just been the best program for tracking miles and elevation gain and then being able to share it. Segmented times mean very little as train conditions, traffic, and where you personally peak in a ride play too much of a factor in it. Now if you did the same course every time it could make a difference but I never ride the same course.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    I just don't get Strava.

    I yell Brussels sprouts! When people pass me to cause confusion and subliminally plants a suggestion to eat more Brussels sprouts. If I don't, no one will love me. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1388235009.153816.jpg
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    I ride without Strava is truly forgettable.

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    I personally love Strava and use it without problems. But I get that it isn't for everyone.
    Funny video making fun of those Strava users who go overboard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJm1y0o7MHc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymo853 View Post
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    Strava is cool. I use it on every ride. I don't get spandex and clipless pedals and that is why I don't use them.

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    Is strava the reason why the roadies always, always, always blow through stop signs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Is strava the reason why the roadies always, always, always blow through stop signs?
    No, the reason is momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Is strava the reason why the roadies always, always, always blow through stop signs?
    They play chicken with F150s for sport.
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    I love Brussels Sprouts with grapes.

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