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    Hunting Season In The McDowell Sonoran Preserve

    This should bring some interesting comments. Just so you know...

    HUNTING IN THE PRESERVE

    Hunting season is open in the Preserve. Below are facts you should be aware of as there have been several bow hunters sighted in the Preserve:

    Archery hunting is permitted as follows:

    Javelina - December 13th, 2013 through January 23rd, 2014.
    Deer - December 13th, 2013 through January 31st, 2014.
    Mountain Lion - July 1st, 2013 through June 30th, 2014.

    City of Scottsdale Rules:

    When hunting in the Scottsdale McDowell Sonoran Preserve, you must follow the Preserve rules of use, as established in Chapter 21 of the Scottsdale Revised Code. These rules include:

    * No motorized vehicles are permitted outside designated parking areas.
    * You must access the Preserve at designated access points only.
    * The hours for public use of the Preserve are sunrise to sunset as determined by the National Weather Service. Hunter access is limited to these hours.

    Note: Hunters (actively hunting) are permitted to go off-trail to pursue & retrieve game.

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    Wow, I'm actually shocked that they are allowed to hunt mountain lions. I'm no wildlife biologist, but I can't imagine there are hundreds in the Mcdowells.
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    Damn it, and I just put the antlers on my helmet.

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    You can actually archery hunt rabbits here all year.. with bow and arrow...

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    I'm gonna suggest the next AES McDowell race incorporate having to kill a rabbit and bring it back to the finish line for a time bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    I'm gonna suggest the next AES McDowell race incorporate having to kill a rabbit and bring it back to the finish line for a time bonus.
    that was a rule in last year's Sandbox Showdown.
    actually, think it was a coyote.
    but i *know* there was a time bonus for a carcass

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    What kind of permit do you need to hunt cougars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    What kind of permit do you need to hunt cougars?
    None required, they are plentiful in the McDowells. Easy to spot with colorful makeup and aftermarket PFD's. Although I would suggest catch and release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    What kind of permit do you need to hunt cougars?
    The Cougar hunting is much better on the Scottsdale side.

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    Mountain lion tags are sold over the counter. A general hunting license is also required. One lion per year bag limit except in some other areas in the state where they are wiping out the bighorn sheep. There are probably more lions in the McDowells than on the more remote areas because they have the advantage of being able to feed on pets etc.

    I agree that the "cougar" sightings are much better and more numerous on the Scottsdale side.

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    Hunt to kill Kill to Hunt..

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    i knew i shouldnt have clicked this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    I'm gonna suggest the next AES McDowell race incorporate having to kill a rabbit and bring it back to the finish line for a time bonus.
    have Jeff route the next McD through Martini Ranch for a cougar hunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    What kind of permit do you need to hunt cougars?
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    one of the few times I was able to get a limit on cottontail... mmmm they tasted good grilled
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    Really didn't need to see this...quite disgusting.

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    Re: Hunting Season In The McDowell Sonoran Preserve

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    Really didn't need to see this...quite disgusting.
    Yeah food is disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twowheelchris View Post
    Mountain lion tags are sold over the counter. A general hunting license is also required. One lion per year bag limit except in some other areas in the state where they are wiping out the bighorn sheep. There are probably more lions in the McDowells than on the more remote areas because they have the advantage of being able to feed on pets etc.

    I agree that the "cougar" sightings are much better and more numerous on the Scottsdale side.
    What does a mountain lion taste like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    What does a mountain lion taste like?
    like pork but gamey like rabbit. its a white meat and it's stringy... much better than javelina and antelope but not quite as good as elk...

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    How will all the uptight hikers deal with this?

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    Can we hunt the horses mangling the trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbs View Post
    Can we hunt the horses mangling the trails?
    Yes, but only the ones with cougars riding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Yes, but only the ones with cougars riding them.
    That seems to be the case quite often.

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    Mountain lion is great. I have not found it to be stringy but it is very lean white meat. We eat nothing but wild game meat at my house and the list goes like this. #1 Antelope, #2 lion, #3 whitetail, #4 Elk (javelina, bear, mule deer are all in there too.) We eat more elk than anything because there is just more meat per animal and we draw tags often.

    I've thought about bowhunting in the McDowells but I just don't want to deal with all the bunny huggers giving me the stink eye.

    BTW you can get a limit of cottontails in my yard almost any day.

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    To the post on the edibility of Cougar - In his book "River Horse" William (Least Heat Moon) Trogden said chicken fried Cougar was the best "Game Meal" of his trip through Montana.

    To the post on the scarcity of Cougar - Every place where they are allowed to hunt in the lower 48 have very strict limits and controls on the hunting of Cougars. Probably on the whole, better to hunt them in a controlled manner than to let the numbers get so large they become a target of opportunity for local ranchers.

    To the post with the "Jackalope" photo - Always wondered how you get a Jackalope (Jack Rabbit and Antelope mix) out of a Cottontail and Whitetail Deer.

    Back top - We try to eat game meat too and for the most part we're successful although I could use more Turkeys in the Freezer.

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    AZ has more mountain lions being born each year than there is habitat to support. Only 200-300 per year are taken by hunters. Most are killed by other lions because they are territorial. Estimates of AZ lion population are 2500-5000. I have personally seen close to 30 of them in the last 20 years including two that stalked (silently) to within less than 10 feet of me. They will eat you if you if they think they can take you down.

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    It was either Thankgiving day or the week before I saw a lady all in camouflage carrying a compound bow on Windgate Pass Trail, I was headed up coming from Gateway Trailhead, I smiled and said Hi as I passed but I thought to myself is there really hunting here. Well now I know.

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    curious what are the rules on hunting in proximity to a trail?

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    So I'll get my camp on, strap my bow on my back, and ride up Windgate or TT and see if I can get a pig! Wow, close to home and I can still get in a ride. Too bad they don't have a putting green up there

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    curious what are the rules on hunting in proximity to a trail?
    there are no rules/regulations specific to "trails" in Arizona. Most crowded trail systems are located in areas with no hunting and most hunters don't use hiking trails to access hunting areas... for the most part, hunters do as little as possible on foot... They will used atvs...

    I have seen some hunters use horses to access wilderness areas... where there are only foot trails for access...

    rules you might want to know are that you cannot discharge a firearm within 1/4 mile of an occupied structure and you cannot shoot across a road (dirt or paved) and you cannot shoot from a road... shoot meaning discharge a firearm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdahl View Post
    Really didn't need to see this...quite disgusting.
    Are you a super-lurker?? It seems you haven't posted since 2007? Are you trying to set a record? Who are you....and where have you been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    there are no rules/regulations specific to "trails" in Arizona. Most crowded trail systems are located in areas with no hunting and most hunters don't use hiking trails to access hunting areas... for the most part, hunters do as little as possible on foot... They will used atvs...

    I have seen some hunters use horses to access wilderness areas... where there are only foot trails for access...
    Successful hunters do travel on foot. BTW I use my llamas to pack into wilderness areas. Much better than horses except I can't ride them but I like hiking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twowheelchris View Post
    Successful hunters do travel on foot. BTW I use my llamas to pack into wilderness areas. Much better than horses except I can't ride them but I like hiking.
    that's really cool you have llamas... I took 2 vacations to south america... Peru and Ecuador... Got to see a lot of llamas, and alpacas up close...

    btw alpaca meat is the bomb... I ate quite a bit of that in Peru..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    there are no rules/regulations specific to "trails" in Arizona. Most crowded trail systems are located in areas with no hunting and most hunters don't use hiking trails to access hunting areas... for the most part, hunters do as little as possible on foot... They will used atvs...

    I have seen some hunters use horses to access wilderness areas... where there are only foot trails for access...

    rules you might want to know are that you cannot discharge a firearm within 1/4 mile of an occupied structure and you cannot shoot across a road (dirt or paved) and you cannot shoot from a road... shoot meaning discharge a firearm...
    thanks for the info. Does it apply to bow hunting? I first heard of those regs around BCT, where as we all know it can get scary with the firearms nearby. I would think hunters would not want to be on crowded trails cause the game would avoid it. I have no issues with hunters or hunting or shooters, I just don't like being downrange, so prefer that its nowhere near me rather than trusting someone to look out for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    thanks for the info. Does it apply to bow hunting? I first heard of those regs around BCT, where as we all know it can get scary with the firearms nearby. I would think hunters would not want to be on crowded trails cause the game would avoid it. I have no issues with hunters or hunting or shooters, I just don't like being downrange, so prefer that its nowhere near me rather than trusting someone to look out for me.
    I think archery is more relaxed with the 1/4 mile rule. But I don't know. I am sure you cannot release arrows across roads or release your bow from a road.

    There is a huge difference (in regards to public safety) between "target shooting" and hunting... rifle hunters rarely take shots... small game hunters take a lot of shots but typically use shotguns, and bird/rabbit sized shot loses its power at about 75-100 yards...

    the only exception may be squirrel or rabbit hunters using a .22, But even these guys aren't going to take many shots since it's fairly rare to encounter a rabbit or squirrel to stand still for you...

    target shooters go through many rounds of very lethal bullets that can travel a long way...

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    Well that must not apply to 4 Peak Road on the weekends. Nothing like pulling to the side of the road and unloading your assault rifle into the trash you just threw into the desert all while drinking some Busch Light on the side of a busy road. I'm all for gun rights but somethings just make me shake my head.
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    Hunting is also allowed in some of the County Parks, including McDowell.

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