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    High Pollution Advisory tomorrow .Anybody pay attention to these and not ride?

    EVERY time I make time and get on a roll with consistent riding ,these stupid things come up.Tomorrow, I was supposed to go to the MX track and put a couple hours in before work.They're only open on Wednesday's during the week,but the only other option mid week is shuttles...also only on Wednesday's .
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    No....I consider any hindrance to my true self to be "cross training"......

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    I figure if I didn't ride due to the poisons in the air then I would just sit indoors. There I would eat poisonous things like processed food, drink coffee, soda and water. I would also breathe the constantly recirculated air that is full of pet dander, toddler stink, ammonia, formaldehyde and the rest. So- no, I don't pay attention to the air quality reports! LOL

    I know it's bad- but you have to figure this: High Pollution advisories are many times due to particulate matter- which is soot, dust and pollen. When you moto or mtb you get plenty of dust and if you follow a twosmoke you get soot. So eff it-let's all ride and die together!
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    Go early before the morning rush. There will be less crap in the air then. The only air quality days I avoid if I know about it is the windy high particulate polution days. Riding in blowing dust irritates my nose and eyes something fierce. The high ozone days suck and everything, but I will ride during them.
    I figure that it cannot be worse than all the crap I sucked down will bike commuting in Chicago traffic before I moved here.

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    Nah... when you look straight up there is no brown cloud! Some people claim to be affected on these high pollution days. Me? I feel no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl View Post
    Nah... when you look straight up there is no brown cloud! Some people claim to be affected on those day. Me? I feel no difference.
    +1 to that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    EVERY time I make time and get on a roll with consistent riding ,these stupid things come up.Tomorrow, I was supposed to go to the MX track and put a couple hours in before work.They're only open on Wednesday's during the week,but the only other option mid week is shuttles...also only on Wednesday's .
    The Gods are aligned against me,cause they know,if I ever got in shape...well....stuff would happen...and..it wouldn't be nice,either.
    My solution? Don't read the paper or watch the local news.
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    Problem is, like many similar types of exposure, the effects are cumulative and not acute. Often people dont realize or even know the damage until too late, like smoking. Does it mean there are no effects if you cant feel any effect?
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    There's two ways of lookng at it. 1- You will breathe in tons of toxic particles that may cause cancer. 2- You will breathe in toxic particles that will strengthen your body and make it more resilient to cancer and other pollutant-caused illnesses.
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    Believe it or not, I'm more concerned about the effect air quality has on sunset photos than on my lungs. Sometimes the dirtier the air the better the sunset and I'll ride hoping to get some good shots of it. So bad air quality is actually a motivation to ride or at least get out and take a peek at the sky at sunset. It can't be worse than smoking any, now that's really bad for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Believe it or not, I'm more concerned about the effect air quality has on sunset photos than on my lungs. Sometimes the dirtier the air the better the sunset and I'll ride hoping to get some good shots of it. So bad air quality is actually a motivation to ride or at least get out and take a peek at the sky at sunset. It can't be worse than smoking any, now that's really bad for ya.

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    ...I'm flyin away ...a wing and a prayer.

    Who could could it beeee? Believe it or not ...............I'm goin to the track to ride in pollution,hope I don't die......it's just meeeeeeeeee.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    ...I'm flyin away ...a wing and a prayer.

    Who could could it beeee? Believe it or not ...............I'm goin to the track to ride in pollution,hope I don't die......it's just meeeeeeeeee.



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    True- but where do we draw the line? Apparently the sunblock we have all been using and FDA approved does not work (Euros have known this for years) so we will have skin cancer in the future? Knees and hips take a beating on drops and crashes- replacements? Eyes are seared by the sun and filled with dust. then the fact that we are aging anyway and Jack Lalane was a freak- not a scientific experiment. And none of it matters when you wake up dead.
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    Awesome!
    He flew like I ride things on two wheels.
    Btw.went to Grindingstone mx track this morn.--Had fun.Left before I hurt myself or got heatstroke ..or pollutionitis.
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    Not to be a jerk but I gotta admit I'm dumbfounded that anyone would see this advisory and think they shouldn't be outside. You're breathing the same air in your house. It just happens to be cooled by your AC unit. That warning is just gubment PR to get people to NOT drive thereby increasing the pollution.

    Ignore that crap and ride as often as you can. Tomorrow you could get run over by a bus full of people that didn't want to drive due to the high pollution advisory...

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    HTFU, oh and MX track? where was my invite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Not to be a jerk but I gotta admit I'm dumbfounded that anyone would see this advisory and think they shouldn't be outside. You're breathing the same air in your house. It just happens to be cooled by your AC unit. That warning is just gubment PR to get people to NOT drive thereby increasing the pollution.

    Ignore that crap and ride as often as you can. Tomorrow you could get run over by a bus full of people that didn't want to drive due to the high pollution advisory...
    HVAC systems have filters. I wonder how many of the people in this thread support/encourage smoking? Why or why not? Seems to be a lot of rationalization in this thread because this is where we happen to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Believe it or not, I'm more concerned about the effect air quality has on sunset photos than on my lungs. Sometimes the dirtier the air the better the sunset and I'll ride hoping to get some good shots of it. So bad air quality is actually a motivation to ride or at least get out and take a peek at the sky at sunset. It can't be worse than smoking any, now that's really bad for ya.
    I know what you mean... I like this one where it looks like you're really up in the mountains even though it's only at ~3000 ft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    HVAC systems have filters. I wonder how many of the people in this thread support/encourage smoking? Why or why not? Seems to be a lot of rationalization in this thread because this is where we happen to live.
    Sure, but it's not like an air filtration unit. Probably no better than a mask you'd buy at Home Depot for painting. I'm sure it's still plenty filthy air. And, we don't really have a choice outside of have fun or don't have fun.

    I wonder if they have a similar thread in the CA forum about riding in LA during high pollution days (which is certainly EVERY day)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    HVAC systems have filters. I wonder how many of the people in this thread support/encourage smoking? Why or why not? Seems to be a lot of rationalization in this thread because this is where we happen to live.
    I do. Smoking, like mt biking, gives one the impression that they are "cooler than school."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidhucker View Post
    HTFU, oh and MX track? where was my invite?
    I didn't know you rode !
    HTFU?...I think I get the Fu part.....??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Problem is, like many similar types of exposure, the effects are cumulative and not acute. Often people dont realize or even know the damage until too late, like smoking. Does it mean there are no effects if you cant feel any effect?
    +1 Exercise induced asthma due to 15 years of valley road/mtn riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    I didn't know you rode !
    HTFU?...I think I get the Fu part.....??
    I think Ronnie can answer that for you:

    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    I didn't know you rode !
    HTFU?...I think I get the Fu part.....??
    "Harden The F*ck Up"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

    and yes I do ride now, just been on single track so far. I need someone to show me the ropes at the track.

    Edit, dam SkinnyTire beat me to it....

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    I rode last night on the road at around 6:30 and proceed to get two flats. Seriously, two road flats on the same 20 mile ride. After the second flat it's dark and I can't really see enough patch the tube and walk/jog the last 1.5 miles home.

    Walk of shame, oh yeah walking in road shoes is not possible. I did it in socks and the neighborhood I was in was watering their greens areas so all the sidewalks were wet.

    Good ride though, buying tubes and going again tonight to continue building up my base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidhucker View Post
    "Harden The F*ck Up"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

    and yes I do ride now, just been on single track so far. I need someone to show me the ropes at the track.

    Edit, dam SkinnyTire beat me to it....
    Single track?!....HTFU then GTTTAYCAMYSSYP.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    Single track?!....HTFU then GTTTAYCAMYSSYP.



    Got to the track and you can make yourself s*** your pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmarkos View Post
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    If you can't ride hard enough to almost s*** yourself ,you're the spode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary View Post
    Single track?!....HTFU then GTTTAYCAMYSSYP.



    Got to the track and you can make yourself s*** your pants.
    First I gotta take the visor off my helmet and make myself a leatt brace out of PVC and pool noodles. After that, I'd like you to show me how to **** myself.

    @Tmarkos, I'm gonna neg rep the **** outta you! Have fun with your superaids.

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    I try to avoid riding if its above 100 AQI....but during the summer months ozone is usually the main problem, which only becomes an issue from 11am-7pm...too hot to ride then anyway. in the early AM hours there is usually no ozone problems. in the summer, PM 2.5 (soot, smog, small particulates) are pretty low - these are said to be the most harmful form of pollution. PM10 (dust, larger particulates) usually isn't very high unless it is really windy and dry, this really reduces visibility and you will surely notice it if you have your eyes open. The body is more efficient at processing PM10 because the particles are bigger and can be trapped more easily. The PM2.5 is so small it can actually go right into you blood stream. The winter is the worse in Phx. I would say from Nov - March are the worst and expect a lot of moderate/high PM2.5 days...mornings are the worst for these (inversion) but will usually clear up by the afternoon as long as there is some good warming.

    overall, i wouldn't worry too too much about pollution and riding - avoid seriously bad days if you can, but don't let it get in your way of having fun. it certainly isnt great for you, but its probably easier to die/have complications from anything else.

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    What's the deal with all these posts being in the wrong order?I don't know who I'm trying to insult at the correct time.It's throwin my comedy off,man.
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    also forgot to mention location has some play in this... in the winter months PM2.5 will gather in the lower elevations (along salt river, downtown phx) as the winds are southwest... levels may be unsafe here but fine in higher elevations to the north east. in summer months, ozone builds during the day and the winds shift from southwest to northeast...all the ozone heads toward mcdowells, fountain hills, cave creek, mt humboldt etc while levels will dissipate quicker in downtown phx.

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