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    Hawes Rudeness.... ..quick heads up

    Was out with my wife on the Power (lower Hawes system), and ran into a group going out for a night ride. There was still plenty of visible light, probably 5:40ish. The group was about 5 or more. They seem to have an issue with trail rules and such. After they went by she made the comment that she thought they were actually trying to push her out... and I felt it also. This was the 2nd time I ran into this group... so now I'm pretty sure I'm not seeing things.

    The first time was behind the houses at Las Sendas... they were launching and I was rolling back in.... I just remember getting way up in the weeds and they not only took center line but all started pushing in on me. ..wasn't just one guy but pretty much all.. gave them as much space as I could and figured it was due to inexperience and too much ego.. ..starting to see a pattern here



    I had seen the group prior to all this but, was not on saddle.

    ..guess bottom line, keep a heads up on the Hawes trails and I hope its not an intentional thing but rather an ignorance thing with these guys..

    Ride hard.. have fun.. but a little courtesy goes a long way..

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    Welcome to the suck....and welcome to rule number 2:

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    Just pack one up bro. Who cares?

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    You don't mention which group was going uphill/downhill or whether the area was flat. I don't know the area, but guessing relatively flat since it sounds like it's been occurring near the trailheads. What I'm getting at is, could it have been a right of way/failure to yield issue on your part?
    The older I get the better I was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    You don't mention which group was going uphill/downhill or whether the area was flat. I don't know the area, but guessing relatively flat since it sounds like it's been occurring near the trailheads. What I'm getting at is, could it have been a right of way/failure to yield issue on your part?
    Tonight we were climbing (it was a beginner climb.. but a climb)...

    The previous time everyone was dead flat. I was considering failure to yield on my part on that one.. but the various bushes being sucked up by the wheels indicated otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    Welcome to the suck....and welcome to rule number 2:

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    That is hilarious.

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    800mm bars.
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    I was out night riding tonight solo. I rode by the group and said hi,they said hi and we each went our own way.Seemed like nice guys.

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    29"ers tend to run wide on corner exits, nothing they could have done about it.
    Nice KOM, sorry about your penis.

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    Re: Hawes Rudeness.... ..quick heads up

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    29"ers tend to run wide on corner exits, nothing they could have done about it.
    True dat. Even if they dismounted the momentum could not have thwarted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    True dat. Even if they dismounted the momentum could not have thwarted.
    ergo, you and your wife should be on 29'rs....this incident could have been avoided.

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    I had similar situation last week about the same time of day on the fence line trail on my way back from riding at Hawes ... a pack of 4 or so dudes was approaching on a particularly flat and wide part of the trail. I moved over to the right side of the trail and kept rolling since there was plenty of space, when the lead guy decides to wait until he is 5 feet from me to cut across my line so he can squeeze by off trail on my right. Then idiot number 2 decides to play chicken with me, and I lost because I was already wobbly from idiot number 1, and really it was all just so ridiculous.

    I'm still trying to figure out if they were being super passive aggressive or if they were just a bunch of jackasses.

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    That is bizzare behavior. It does not even make sense. It is not like they are just not giving right of way from chasing Strava times. As a group as well?

    Maad, Great link on the seasons.

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    what tire should i use in this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarHigh View Post
    That is bizzare behavior. It does not even make sense. It is not like they are just not giving right of way from chasing Strava times. As a group as well?
    Yeah, it was really strange and kind of had me boiling. I guess the group was just following the line of the dumbass in front since they were all on top of each other.

    I can at least understand someone chasing times, but this looked like some amateur hour stuff. Next time my elbows may have to do some schooling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    what tire should i use in this situation?
    The chariot kind.

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    Chalk up a victory for us spandex wearing fat old guys with bar ends and rim brakes....


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    MtbAZ, awesome vid. That old dude rocks.

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    What was the head angle of their bikes? This could be the key to solving this mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    what tire should i use in this situation?
    the tire-iron

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    while driving, the warning is "drive hammered, get nailed"
    concerning passing etiquette on the trail, "if you've crop-dusted, you'll get busted"

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    Did they all have matching jersey's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    Chalk up a victory for us spandex wearing fat old guys with bar ends and rim brakes....

    Looks like the guy in the yellow is a douche, and the other guy is a puss-cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    Looks like the guy in the yellow is a douche, and the other guy is a puss-cake.
    They are English, I believe it would be **** and wanker.

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    actually it's new zealand but anyway, the full version of the video (not this one) shows old dude not letting the other guy pass for a loooong time... Yellow shirt dude should have let the faster rider go by... I am a slow poke going down and I always let faster riders go by... especially if they ask...

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    New recommended hawes riding gear and set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    Chalk up a victory for us spandex wearing fat old guys with bar ends and rim brakes....

    These guys are ridiculous! they should be SO embarrassed for acting like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post

    Paul Harvey would be proud thanks for the link

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    and the other guy is a puss-cake.
    i believe hostess discontinued that snack

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    What a ****ing ********

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    Quote Originally Posted by efrestedt View Post
    Was out with my wife on the Power (lower Hawes system), and ran into a group going out for a night ride. There was still plenty of visible light, probably 5:40ish. The group was about 5 or more. They seem to have an issue with trail rules and such. After they went by she made the comment that she thought they were actually trying to push her out... and I felt it also. This was the 2nd time I ran into this group... so now I'm pretty sure I'm not seeing things.

    The first time was behind the houses at Las Sendas... they were launching and I was rolling back in.... I just remember getting way up in the weeds and they not only took center line but all started pushing in on me. ..wasn't just one guy but pretty much all.. gave them as much space as I could and figured it was due to inexperience and too much ego.. ..starting to see a pattern here



    I had seen the group prior to all this but, was not on saddle.

    ..guess bottom line, keep a heads up on the Hawes trails and I hope its not an intentional thing but rather an ignorance thing with these guys..

    Ride hard.. have fun.. but a little courtesy goes a long way..

    -e
    Awe.....you poor thing. Sports enthusiasts with ego? You don't say........hard to believe!!!

    Seriously tho, toughen up buttercup. there are a lot of Richards in this world, don't let em ruin your day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarHigh View Post
    That is bizzare behavior. It does not even make sense. It is not like they are just not giving right of way from chasing Strava times. As a group as well?

    Maad, Great link on the seasons.
    Maybe they wanted to hold hands together as they finish the segment for the quadruple shared KOM.

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    Yeah I ran into a trio of Spando Ballet tard rude mofos out at Usery.
    I can see if you are good, but DORKheadS being all bad and what at USERY!?

    Bombing blind corners and not even giving a warning of back riders...

    Class acts.

    Get real ladies. Rudeness is a open door for an ass kicking.

    You all that bad with your crew but you could even catch me...

    You all know who you are!

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    It's like a always say, 29ers are like big head driver golf clubs.
    If it make you feel like your improving, then you suck, GOOD FOR YOU!

    Thanks!

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    This seems to effect trails in all places at all times. It's sad. Seems worse in groups.
    I ride mostly with my wife so I am already in full protection mode. This coupled with adrenaline is usually a bad cocktail. Funny thing is I don't usually have to get involved. Shut the door on a 5' Cuban girl and you unleash a buzz bomb. Pretty fun watching a bunch of 20-30 year olds in tighties cower down to a girl. Then again, could be that I'm a bit larger than your average bear.
    Bottom line, douchbags abound. Complaining here will not fix it. You need to call em out on the trail or suck it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubae View Post
    This seems to effect trails in all places at all times. It's sad. Seems worse in groups.
    I ride mostly with my wife so I am already in full protection mode. This coupled with adrenaline is usually a bad cocktail. Funny thing is I don't usually have to get involved. Shut the door on a 5' Cuban girl and you unleash a buzz bomb. Pretty fun watching a bunch of 20-30 year olds in tighties cower down to a girl. Then again, could be that I'm a bit larger than your average bear.
    Bottom line, douchbags abound. Complaining here will not fix it. You need to call em out on the trail or suck it up.
    Lucky!

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