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    Have you cleaned this...looking for video of it if so

    Can anyone point me to a video of rider(s) cleaning the step up to the right on this feature out at Natty? If so I'd love to examine it. Thanks
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    Ive gotten my rear JUST barely on it but my gearing was crap and my momentum not enough.. i had a big bash guard too that helped

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    I have. U2metoo has a vid somewhere of it. I'll try to link it if I can find it. He also has a very embarassing video of me crashing on the stairs like an idiot.
    I don't do the right move anymore because I've destroyed many a tubeless tire doing it. pinch flatting on that move is almost unavoidable.

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    No video but I have cleaned it. It's not super difficult but I usually just walk it. I've crushed my toes against the under side of the big rock too many times (gotta time the pedals just right...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    No video but I have cleaned it. It's not super difficult .
    So says you..

    I've tried it 50 times at least with one...1...only one, completely successful run at it. More often than not I can get my rear up but just fail at that point. I've gone over on my Camelbak a few times as well Mostly (see almost always) walk it unless I'm feeling very spunky at that point. I've been there when a group of 4 or 5 guys all hit it with no problem, that's impressive. Think it was the Azmntcycler crew. Anyway just looking for some visual reference of success.

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    I've seen Waterfall Ronnie clean it. Cenobuns nearly cleaned it one day. No video of either. I don't even try anymore.

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    I strapped on the GoPro and climbed up to it one morning with the intention of cleaning it or die trying. I have video of 8 or 9 very close but un-successful attempts at it. No flats or crashes, at least.

    Poncho, let's climb up there some morning and figure that damn thing out. Maybe we can talk Ken into going with us because I've seen him climb up a lot of things and he has a way of making things look all too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobite39 View Post
    Poncho, let's climb up there some morning and figure that damn thing out. Maybe we can talk Ken into going with us because I've seen him climb up a lot of things and he has a way of making things look all too easy.
    I'm in. Friday morning?

    As far as Ken goes, I've seen his vids. He makes it all look easy. It's disheartening. Would love to hook up for some 'school'n.

    Ken, here's another pic. I've seen you and others make the climb up, over the steep rock and keep roll'n (in the opposite direction of this rider, step up not shown in pic). I've yet to make this either. I have crashed straight into it like a tard. Almost went OTB's trying to get up it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I'm in. Friday morning?

    As far as Ken goes, I've seen his vids. He makes it all look easy. It's disheartening. Would love to hook up for some 'school'n.

    Ken, here's another pic. I've seen you and others make the climb up, over the steep rock and keep roll'n (in the opposite direction of this rider, step up not shown in pic). I've yet to make this either. I have crashed straight into it like a tard. Almost went OTB's trying to get up it.
    I'm down for a bit. I get Xray results on my hand tomorrow and I think I'm going to have to get my ankle x-rayed also.
    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for bad sprains as opposed to mild breaks. I know the healing time is probably the same but with a sprain, I will tape it up and tough it out on a ride. Time will tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobite39 View Post
    I'm down for a bit. I get Xray results on my hand tomorrow and I think I'm going to have to get my ankle x-rayed also.
    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for bad sprains as opposed to mild breaks. I know the healing time is probably the same but with a sprain, I will tape it up and tough it out on a ride. Time will tell...
    That's cool. Sounds like you have issues that would sideline me for weeks, not days.

    Anyhow if you want to make a go of it Friday post up in this thread. I plan on going solo if nothing else. My fat ass needs to ride more.

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    If Kenbentit says so I believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I'm in. Friday morning?

    As far as Ken goes, I've seen his vids. He makes it all look easy. It's disheartening. Would love to hook up for some 'school'n.

    Ken, here's another pic. I've seen you and others make the climb up, over the steep rock and keep roll'n (in the opposite direction of this rider, step up not shown in pic). I've yet to make this either. I have crashed straight into it like a tard. Almost went OTB's trying to get up it.
    That's the high line go up the triangle, its not to hard you just have to have some energy left when you get there from all the other climbs.
    I do not have video but it is fun and its not that hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Can anyone point me to a video of rider(s) cleaning the step up to the right on this feature out at Natty? If so I'd love to examine it. Thanks
    At 7:50 min in this video it has me making it from my chest P.O.V , this does not let you see a rider doing it but it lets you see what it looks like to do it, its not to hard to do but you have to have some energy left from all the other work you have done getting there .
    Going up the steps on the left is harder for me , I have one little line through there and its way harder than the straight shot on the rt for me

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    Like kelstr just said, it really requires you to have that extra bit of energy to be able to get over the initial hump. It's kinda like the rocky section at the top of the Mormon climb. Not terribly hard but you're a bit tired by that point so it takes more determination to do it. Totally agree about the steps to the left of that line though, super hard and no easy way thru it. Haven't even tried that one in years I won't be doing much for a while though, have to wait until my knee is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Like kelstr just said, it really requires you to have that extra bit of energy to be able to get over the initial hump. It's kinda like the rocky section at the top of the Mormon climb. Not terribly hard but you're a bit tired by that point so it takes more determination to do it. Totally agree about the steps to the left of that line though, super hard and no easy way thru it. Haven't even tried that one in years I won't be doing much for a while though, have to wait until my knee is better.
    Oh man Ken I hope your knee is not to bad , there is nothing worse than a part of the body that is pissed off and just wont cooperate , healing vibes your way my friend .

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    Hell, I'd be happy being able to clean the series of steps on the left DOWN

    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobite39 View Post
    Maybe we can talk Ken into going with us because I've seen him climb up a lot of things and he has a way of making things look all too easy.
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    As far as Ken goes, I've seen his vids. He makes it all look easy. It's disheartening.
    Big time. Of course at my level most everyone else makes me feel that way...

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    Ditto... If a ride pans out I'd love to tag along if my time allows.

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    Most of the guys in our group can clean it. Lately the ledge has gotten bigger and is a bit tougher. You want to be sure you have tough rear tire as the ledge is becoming like a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    At 7:50 min in this video it has me making it from my chest P.O.V , this does not let you see a rider doing it but it lets you see what it looks like to do it, its not to hard to do but you have to have some energy left from all the other work you have done getting there .
    Going up the steps on the left is harder for me , I have one little line through there and its way harder than the straight shot on the rt for me

    from kelstr on Vimeo.

    Thats all editing!!!!

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    Never seen anyone even attempt going up the line to the right although I've heard that's the "easiest" way to do it. I guess that makes sense since that's the only line I've even attempted going down. The stairs going down just looks like could cause disaster for some reason so I've always pussed it.

    Saw Ronnie climb up the stairs which was very impressive.

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    i have cleaned it, but not often. You have to be very careful like others said about the lip, hence my friends call this one The Crab. I've seen some of the Jokers climb the 5 steps, I can't do that and have given up trying.

    EDIT: I am seeing a bug in the post list - if you look at tiSS'er's post just above mine his name is shown as 'tiSS\'er' - looks like mtbr is trying to autoescape the single-quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Can anyone point me to a video of rider(s) cleaning the step up to the right on this feature out at Natty? If so I'd love to examine it. Thanks
    I don't have video, but I can explain how to do it:

    1. Start with your chain on the small chain ring in front and third largest in the back (if you
    start too low, you won't have enough speed to pop up on top)

    2. Start at the corner just before the step (~15 feet or so)

    3. Peddle hard and as you approach the step, pull up into a wheely and concentrate on getting your front wheel as far over the step as possible

    4. Assuming you ride clipless, pull up on your peddles just before your rear tire reaches the rock (this avoids pinch flats)

    5. You should now be on top of the rock, but you're not out of the woods. You will have lost all your momentum and you will most likely be at or near a dead stop (think track stand). Stay or get seated and concentrate on a smooth spin up the last little part.

    I use this technique and am about 85% on this spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmb View Post
    I don't have video, but I can explain how to do it:

    1. Start with your chain on the small chain ring in front and third largest in the back (if you
    start too low, you won't have enough speed to pop up on top)

    2. Start at the corner just before the step (~15 feet or so)

    3. Peddle hard and as you approach the step, pull up into a wheely and concentrate on getting your front wheel as far over the step as possible

    4. Assuming you ride clipless, pull up on your peddles just before your rear tire reaches the rock (this avoids pinch flats)

    5. You should now be on top of the rock, but you're not out of the woods. You will have lost all your momentum and you will most likely be at or near a dead stop (think track stand). Stay or get seated and concentrate on a smooth spin up the last little part.

    I use this technique and am about 85% on this spot.
    That is almost exactly the way I do it .......except I use granny 5 or 6 depending on how I am feeling coming up to that spot.

    In the video I screwed myself and I was winded , my heart was pinned and I was in granny 7 and my little girl legs did not want to lever that big of a gear , ..my buddy Justin had already hit it and made it and I was trying to catch up ......I wanted him doing it in the video as well as I , most the guys in our group generally clean it also but it does take that little extra effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    At 7:50 min in this video it has me making it from my chest P.O.V , this does not let you see a rider doing it but it lets you see what it looks like to do it, its not to hard to do but you have to have some energy left from all the other work you have done getting there .
    Going up the steps on the left is harder for me , I have one little line through there and its way harder than the straight shot on the rt for me

    from kelstr on Vimeo.

    I know this video is in another thread, But I gotta say "man do I love watching that video".
    Great riding, great music selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJYJ View Post
    I know this video is in another thread, But I gotta say "man do I love watching that video".
    Great riding, great music selection.
    Thank you , I like all that old music also .
    I wanted to just show the climb at 7:50 for eatdrinkride But I can not get my original movies to load from my external drive ( I dropped my external drive in the garage and now its dead )
    so I grabbed the whole movie from Vimeo and put it on .

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    I'll check out that vid soon, just got home.

    As far as the technique described above I'd say that's what I do. Granny and 3 in back, slight lift of the rear end as needed. The problem for me is not the step up, well it is, but If feeling good I can usually manage to get my rear up...the rest is commitment. You gotta commit to keep pedaling. I usually just stop pedaling for some reason. Again, commitment is needed despite the fact you worry about stalling and falling backwards.

    Losing 20 lbs would really help with these types of steeps as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I'll check out that vid soon, just got home.

    As far as the technique described above I'd say that's what I do. Granny and 3 in back, slight lift of the rear end as needed. The problem for me is not the step up, well it is, but If feeling good I can usually manage to get my rear up...the rest is commitment. You gotta commit to keep pedaling. I usually just stop pedaling for some reason. Again, commitment is needed despite the fact you worry about stalling and falling backwards.

    Losing 20 lbs would really help with these types of steeps as well
    You are correct , you gotta commit .....its just like climbing up the high line on #3 (bermuda triangle )

    You gota keep you weight balanced and in the center.... and if you do stall ( generally I do because Im week ) you just start pedaling slowly and go while being smooth .

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    I hate to say it but maybe this section needs a little TLC. I know that's taboo but it seems the rut at the bottom is just dug out too much. In years past (when I never attempted it in the up direction) it had a little more meat at the bottom. With the thousands of drops and nose dives into that section it seems it's a little too rutted to make an attempt for most riders. I'm not talking cheater rocks or anything, just few inches of dirt. Though that would probably last a week.

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    There is a lot of erosion in spots out there. That high line at the triangle is another example. We used to be able to practically jump onto the first rock (heading down, not up) but now the hole is nearly 18" deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    There is a lot of erosion in spots out there. That high line at the triangle is another example. We used to be able to practically jump onto the first rock (heading down, not up) but now the hole is nearly 18" deep.
    Ya, if I'm doing the same step up you are talking about it is a little rutted. I have to approach it at slow speed in 4th gear. Any faster and I bash my guard too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I hate to say it but maybe this section needs a little TLC. I know that's taboo but it seems the rut at the bottom is just dug out too much. In years past (when I never attempted it in the up direction) it had a little more meat at the bottom. With the thousands of drops and nose dives into that section it seems it's a little too rutted to make an attempt for most riders. I'm not talking cheater rocks or anything, just few inches of dirt. Though that would probably last a week.

    Trail Doc...where are you???
    Its really not that bad to get up on,..( you can do it really slowly actually ) ... the hard part is not getting on the step , the hard part is the track stand after you hit and then smoothly pedaling and controlling your traction until you get going again, ...once your going and are keeping your balance your through and done.

    We all hit it again this morning and "Ezra" our buddy that rides a "Santacruz" Chameleon HT SS .....( 32-18 I believe ) comes up to it and hit it and he thought he failed because his one foot came off his pedal and he just coasted all the way to the top , it was so funny and smooth I could not believe how nice and easy it looked .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post

    from kelstr on Vimeo.

    Great vid, just got around to viewing it.

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    Interesting most of you get on up the rock and then try to slowly make your way up the rest. Maybe I'm mashing into the rock too hard with the intent on powering over everything in my way. Trying to speed up it does not seem to work as your balance if FUBAR'd at that point.

    Sounds like breaking it into two sections mentally might be the better option. Slow and steady wins the race, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Interesting most of you get on up the rock and then try to slowly make your way up the rest. Maybe I'm mashing into the rock too hard with the intent on powering over everything in my way. Trying to speed up it does not seem to work as your balance if FUBAR'd at that point.

    Sounds like breaking it into two sections mentally might be the better option. Slow and steady wins the race, right?
    Just like the high line going up the triangle , both of these moves steel my momentum down to a track stand ...( its not what I want , its just what I get ) so I use this to re-group for a second and get the power and traction going again and move on up the rocks.

    So breaking them down into two sections is easier for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Great vid, just got around to viewing it.
    Thanks EDR, but it truly is the beauty of South mountain that really makes it happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    Just like the high line going up the triangle , both of these moves steel my momentum down to a track stand ...( its not what I want , its just what I get ) so I use this to re-group for a second and get the power and traction going again and move on up the rocks.

    So breaking them down into two sections is easier for me
    Long before you try these sections, I think it's helpful to get good at going slow. As a kid, we're taught that speed is our friend to keep a bike from falling over, however, I've found that the slower one rides, the better one becomes at riding technical stuff.

    I practice track stands, bunny hoping 90 degree turns, practing 90 degree turns in my drive way at very slow speeds, etc.

    After awhile, your balance improves and you get very comfortable on the bike that has either stopped or even rolls back. You take these skills to the trail and clear way more stuff than you ever thought you could.

    I still get a grin whenever I'm on a techie uphill section and inadvertantly stop, roll back a few inches, but managed to pull off a recovery (I feel like I've stolen a potential dab back

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmb View Post

    Long before you try these sections, I think it's helpful to get good at going slow. As a kid, we're taught that speed is our friend to keep a bike from falling over, however, I've found that the slower one rides, the better one becomes at riding technical stuff.

    I practice track stands, bunny hoping 90 degree turns, practing 90 degree turns in my drive way at very slow speeds, etc.

    After awhile, your balance improves and you get very comfortable on the bike that has either stopped or even rolls back. You take these skills to the trail and clear way more stuff than you ever thought you could.

    I still get a grin whenever I'm on a techie uphill section and inadvertantly stop, roll back a few inches, but managed to pull off a recovery (I feel like I've stolen a potential dab back
    This is so true , you have to be able to track stand and or ride while barely moving.
    I am always practicing my slow moving and no moving riding also, its a skill you always need to be working on to keep it sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Can anyone point me to a video of rider(s) cleaning the step up to the right on this feature out at Natty? If so I'd love to examine it. Thanks
    I cleaned it back in 87 when it was not as eroded as the present day conditions. No video back then, just super 8 film and heavy cameras which needed to be mounted on both sides of the moto helmet to balance things out.

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    I normally clean that rock with a paper towel and my blood....
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    Not a chance in hell do I have of cleaning this pig any time soon. Drew and I ran into Kelstr on the way up Natty, Kelstr was coming down, and shot the breeze briefly before Kelstr made quick work of it. I hate showoffs. On our way back down we got to this section and I'm not even sure I got my tire up on it. Of course, I wasn't trying 'cause I know it's not in my bag of tricks. I did manage to ride DOWN the stairs fairly well. As with everything I do I go too Fing slow but it'll get quicker as I ride that spot more. It was only my second time on it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Not a chance in hell do I have of cleaning this pig any time soon. Drew and I ran into Kelstr on the way up Natty, Kelstr was coming down, and shot the breeze briefly before Kelstr made quick work of it. I hate showoffs. On our way back down we got to this section and I'm not even sure I got my tire up on it. Of course, I wasn't trying 'cause I know it's not in my bag of tricks. I did manage to ride DOWN the stairs fairly well. As with everything I do I go too Fing slow but it'll get quicker as I ride that spot more. It was only my second time on it...
    Ya, it's tough. I'm so outta shape now I can't even think about it.

    As far as coming down the stairs goes. Riding down them is tricky and is asking for trouble. I rode once in a group where a guy taco'd his front wheel all to hell going very slowly down them.
    You're much better off rolling the drop to the left, or better yet lofting the front a bit and dropping it. Much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    As far as coming down the stairs goes. Riding down them is tricky and is asking for trouble. I rode once in a group where a guy taco'd his front wheel all to hell going very slowly down them.
    You're much better off rolling the drop to the left, or better yet lofting the front a bit and dropping it. Much easier.
    I've ridden the drop to the left. Piece of cake. The steps are hard which is precisely why I did them and will continue to do them until I make it smooth. My goals when I ride are: have fun, challenge myself, get some exercise. When I can I purposely ride the "off" lines because they are a challenge.

    In this case those steps are a big challenge for me. A drop is fine. Easy. But when you combine 8 to 10 drops right in a row and your suspension never has a chance to settle between them you have a difficult obstacle. I like working on the hard stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    But when you combine 8 to 10 drops right in a row and your suspension never has a chance to settle between them you have a difficult obstacle. I like working on the hard stuff.
    What makes them a challenge is just what you described, plus you have to make a left hand turn near the bottom half. That's where I saw that 29er rim fold up like a blanket

    Funny thing is, for the first several years I rode out there I always took the stairs. Was too chicken to roll the drop. It wasn't until I was with a group where everyone took the drop did I start to do it that way

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