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    Geronimo cherry popped; drop yr seat and hang on

    Cenobite did it last week for the first time. Drew and I did Geronimo this morning for the first time and had a blast.

    First off, beautiful morning for a ride.

    We did it as a shuttle. Not knowing how short it is, we parked at 24th St. Bad tactical planning.

    Anyhow, Geronimo was a hoot. Very, very fast. Little loose, off-camberish and kinda goofy up top where you lose a lot of elevation quickly. Part of that was just the unknown and not being familiar with what was coming next.

    We put down a decently fast and pretty clean run, stopped to session a couple areas. My impression is that this is a fun trail to link with other stuff. There is zero climbing and almost no need to pedal at all except to maintain momentum through the switchbacks. It's not really what I consider overly technical and nowhere near the workout that National provides even if you shuttle it (from BV to Pima down Natty still requires quite a bit of pedalling).

    At the bottom, we ended up climbing about two-thirds of the way up 24th St. just to see it, then turned around and bombed back down. Next time we'll leave the shuttle car at Pima, hit Geronimo, up 24th, up the rest of Mormon and then down Natty from the split.

    Think we got a couple decent pics on Drew's phone that he should be posting up here in a bit.

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    It isn't the same type of workout as national that's for sure, but if you push it the whole time and don't stop for breaks/session, trust me you'll feel it in a whole different way. Isn't it such a sick trail?

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    Nice!
    Down gero and up 24th is a great ride!

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    I knew you guys would like it !
    If you don't climb up Natty then the 24th st climb wouldn't be too bad. I was pretty wupped by the time I hit it.

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    I thought for the first time today, midway down, that this is the type of trail that a FR or DH bike would be perfect on.

    Yeah, 24th St climbing didn't seem so bad, but we were really fresh.

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    Yep, a bigger bike makes Geronimo pretty fast. It is in terrible shape right now though, it was much faster before the big rains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Yep, a bigger bike makes Geronimo pretty fast. It is in terrible shape right now though, it was much faster before the big rains.

    It was FAST this morning! Photos loading........Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobite39
    I knew you guys would like it !
    If you don't climb up Natty then the 24th st climb wouldn't be too bad. I was pretty wupped by the time I hit it.
    Does NOT sound fun on a big bike.

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    Photos from the AM. Not sure if people like all these, BUT I know when I'm at work photos like these make it tolerable

    AM sun rise @ 24th street:



    Right to the GOOD stuff. Blatant, Geronimo!!!!!



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    This was/is a really LOOSE trail! Soft sand in places and Lots of loose rocks!!!



    Eyes close because I WAS SCARED!!!



    Good shot of the "loose"


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    This is a cool sequence:

    Part #1



    Part #2



    Part #3


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    Blatant!



    The Grave 9



    Again:


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    Sharp Switch back!



    I think I make the lamest faces!!!


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    That's the look of concentration.
    Either that or you squezed the third brake too hard and your ass is burning !

    As always- GREAT SHOTS !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobite39
    That's the look of concentration.
    Either that or you squezed the third brake too hard and your ass is burning !

    As always- GREAT SHOTS !

    LOL...... I'll go with the third one thanks and get your **** fixed. The AM will be here soon!!!!!!!>............Drew

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    Is that last pic the last left turn switchback before you get to the scout camp. If so nice job. I've ridden that trail like 2-3 times and I'm still afraid to try that one. If you miss it seems like really bad outcome. Not very confident with tight/steep switchbacks yet tho.

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    did you use the motorola driod for pics?

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    Having never done this trail but being intrigued by the photos, I have a question. How does it compare to lower National? I 'ride' lower National now and then, and don't own armor. Is it more/less difficult?

    thanks

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    Dave: Yeah, that's the last switch. I tried the inside line several times but couldn't ride it out. Drew got it first try. The outside line is really tough; neither of us could make that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsittman
    Is that last pic the last left turn switchback before you get to the scout camp. If so nice job. I've ridden that trail like 2-3 times and I'm still afraid to try that one. If you miss it seems like really bad outcome. Not very confident with tight/steep switchbacks yet tho.
    Yep. Last switchback and it's MEAN!!!!! You miss the turn and head off the cliff you have problems!!


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    did you use the motorola driod for pics?
    Yep. the Droid X and I'm really surprised how good they turned out. Not bad at all for a phone camera!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck the Walla
    Having never done this trail but being intrigued by the photos, I have a question. How does it compare to lower National? I 'ride' lower National now and then, and don't own armor. Is it more/less difficult?

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    As a rider that LOVES National I found this trail "different". I can't say it's harder than lower, to me it was just different. This trail, to me, looks like its different every-time you ride it. With ALL the loose rocks and soft sand every ride and line would shift.

    And lets not act like I can ride and judge at all, I just point the bike down hill and go ..............Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant
    Dave: Yeah, that's the last switch. I tried the inside line several times but couldn't ride it out. Drew got it first try. The outside line is really tough; neither of us could make that.

    That outside line its a b****! I thought for sure it would be a breeze and the inside line would suck, but it was the other way around...........Drew

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    Yeah my friend Tim and I asked a guy after riding Geronimo how to tackle that switch and he said the inside is the way to go too. Next time we tried it Tim was able to clean it inside but I was still skeered to commit. I'll get it tho.

    Agreed about the trail changing. Seems like in the few times I've ridden Geronimo it was considerably different than the time before. May have just been my crazy head getting to me tho

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    You guys are killing me. I'm waiting and waiting for my replacement frame to get here...haven't been on So Mo or Geronimo in ages.

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    I did geronimo on a hardtail with a 100mm SID fork. I was doing good until I went over the bars and almost split my face open on a rock... will try again.

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    Oh ya...Geronimo. My favorite SoMo trail. Glad you finally had the chance to experience it.

    Thx...Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottN
    You guys are killing me. I'm waiting and waiting for my replacement frame to get here...haven't been on So Mo or Geronimo in ages.
    Duct Tape the old one and RIDE!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by StabMasta
    I did geronimo on a hardtail with a 100mm SID fork. I was doing good until I went over the bars and almost split my face open on a rock... will try again.
    You are the man for trying that trail on that ride! My SS has a 100mm fork up front and there is NO way I'd ride it on that trail!!!! ..........Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9
    You are the man for trying that trail on that ride! My SS has a 100mm fork up front and there is NO way I'd ride it on that trail!!!! ..........Drew
    LOL, my first trip down was the day after Thanksgiving 2009 on rigid SS 29er. I popped a tire and otb'd into a tree. Second most intense arm pump I ever felt in my life behind when we got Cinemax added to our cable package when I was a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    LOL, my first trip down was the day after Thanksgiving 2009 on rigid SS 29er. I popped a tire and otb'd into a tree. Second most intense arm pump I ever felt in my life behind when we got Cinemax added to our cable package when I was a kid.


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is priceless!!!!! The cinemax comment, not the wreck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9
    You are the man for trying that trail on that ride! My SS has a 100mm fork up front and there is NO way I'd ride it on that trail!!!! ..........Drew
    I've been down Geronimo twice on my XC bikes -- once on my Rita 29'er SS and twice on my Kona Hei Hei 29'er.

    Both required a *lot* of effort just keeping the back tire down. And both bikes beat the living ***** out of me -- both have wimpy 100mm Reba forks that constantly bottomed out. I think I had to pop my shoulder back in its socket after those runs.

    Oh ya...I did hit the eject button at least once on the Kona. I recall one run where I flew around one of those switchbacks a little too fast, nailed a rock, overcorrected, and went OTB superman style. XC bikes aren't nearly as forgiving as bigger bikes in the chunk.

    That trail is a *lot* more fun on my IH 6point.

    Of course, when I turn around and huff it up 24th St, I always wish I had the Kona.

    Thx...Doug

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    Great point on the 24th street. We climbed most of it today and it's a workout and fun coming down as well!.............Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Second most intense arm pump I ever felt in my life behind when we got Cinemax added to our cable package when I was a kid.
    LOL !

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    Congratulations Boys!

    Man, the EG was made for the 'MO!!

    Here's part of a run from the past spring -

    from Mark Jenness on Vimeo.

    "The secret of joy is the mastery of pain." (Anaïs Nin)

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    titusbro, GREAT VIDEO!!! I'm having flashbacks!!!...........Drew

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    The wife bought me a Contour HD camcorder for my Birthday, so I think it would be cool to break in the camera on this trail. I rode Geronimo when I got my Reign X a few months back and had a blast. Other than the bottom of the trail, I did quite well for my first time down. Just wish it was not so hot. All the protective gear and the full face helmet suck with all the heat and humidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro
    Man, the EG was made for the 'MO!!

    Here's part of a run from the past spring -
    WOW! Awesome video, great soundtrack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvm051
    The wife bought me a Contour HD camcorder for my Birthday, so I think it would be cool to break in the camera on this trail. I rode Geronimo when I got my Reign X a few months back and had a blast. Other than the bottom of the trail, I did quite well for my first time down. Just wish it was not so hot. All the protective gear and the full face helmet suck with all the heat and humidity.

    The heat is bearable at 5:30 am

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    dude...glad you liked Germanimooooooo!!!!

    She's one of my favorite on the mountain. That's gonna be a sick race track if we every get approval from the boy scouts and city. (pipe dream I know) but it's a wed. morning shuttle favorite. It is mighty chuncky but it's a completely different trail which is o.k. with me...something new is always fun!!! As to the switchbacks, I used to look at it like a golf course, hitting them all was par, missing one or two was a bogey or double. the more you do it the more pars you get. I've probably road that trail over 100 times and it's still gets my heart pumping and the adrenaline flowing...riding it on a DH bike is soooooo sweet, on an AM bike a little punishment but still fun if you know the lines, and on a HT...self inflicted pain!!! It's the one trail we do over and over again once it gets too hot out for the others. The fastest top to bottom run is in the low 7's...think how fast that really is. Mikee put that down one day before it got hot. Mine PR is 8.27... Here's a vid from a couple weeks ago of some shuttle gnar...

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