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    Fire in Yarnell

    Prayers go out to the families in Yarnell, who have lost property, and additional prayers to the family and friends of the Granite Mountain Hot Shots who lost their lives today.

    A truly sad day !

    BREAKING NEWS: 18 Prescott firefighters die in blaze - The Prescott Daily Courier - Prescott, Arizona

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    holy ****,, what went wrong? are they releasing that info?

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    Thus far it seems they got separated, lost radio contact with their command center, became surrounded by the fire, were seen by a helicopter, but others were unable to reach them.

    This from CBS 5
    Updates every 10-15 minutes ... Fire is currently at +2000 acres, and 250 homes lost.

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    Half of my cousins crew. Hes heading down with the rest from Prescott now. My mom lives in Yarnell on the east side of the road. Theyve been given mandatory evac notices and are waiting/packing. Her old house was in the southwest section of town and most of that area is said to be gone. Its moving west and north. Might be little to nothing left of the town when all is said and done. Blue Ridge hotshots were the ones that went in to find the Granite boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    holy ****,, what went wrong? are they releasing that info?
    From what Ive gathered, they were in the southwest area which is a bowl shaped depression. got cut off, hunkered down and then got overrun.

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    I saw this on the news and it is soooo terrible. I really look up to those that work the forest fires (other FF too, but these folks more) because I see them as not only saving homes, but trail and ride areas. I tell ya what, I am not looking forward to working at Yavapai Medical tomorrow.
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    wow my thoughts are with the family's truly a tragic event
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    This is terrible. Almost unbelievable. Just a reminder of those out there trying to fight our wildfires....real people.

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    These people were way too young. I don't know what to say, it's just very sad.

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    Arizona lost 19 of it's finest yesterday.
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    Fire in Yarnell

    CNN weatherman reported that monsoon-like conditions sprung up above Yarnell. The rains began to fall in the atmosphere causing the winds to accelerate downward and outward. 50-70 MPH winds overwhelmed the Hotshot crew.

    RIP guys. God Bless.
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    happened to be out with wife looking at the Doce fire origin area, Skull Valley loop and back on White Spar Rd. We could tell from a distance that Yarnell was probably in the path. Air support traffic was very busy flying over our house and we could sense something was going bad.....fire, microburst winds, and 19 fine young local brave men, fathers, and sons were lost. Prescott area is in shock and it will be a very sad week around here this week and beyond.

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    Terrible turn of events, and a very sad day. Rest in peace.


    I'm sure some know of this already, but the Wildland Firefighter Foundation is dedicated to helping the families of fallen firefighters.

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    This is a terrible tragedy.

    Fires will continue to happen and firefighter lives will always be at risk. The best we can do is minimize that risk the best we can. Obey fire restrictions and tell other to do so as well. This is serious stuff - lives, homes and acres of beautiful forest can be lost.

    I have seen people breaking the law in the past, and to be honest I didn't say anything in the past. Even something like a discharging a weapon can start a fire and is forbidden at certain times. The risk for fire is extremely high right now.

    Anyone starting a fire or throwing a cigarette bud in a fire restricted area should be officially slapped.
    Last edited by metalaficionado; 07-02-2013 at 12:34 PM.

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    Fire in Yarnell

    Such terrible news. Like many people who live in the west, I know plenty of wildland fire fighters. And I live near Mann Gulch. I'm definitely thinking of the people in Prescott and Yarnell today.
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    If you would like to help and don't know how to, please take a look at the Arizona 100 Club. Click the "home" link below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    Anyone starting a fire or throwing a cigarette bud in a fire restricted area should be officially slapped.
    It was a lightning strike.

    Sad day indeed. I spent all of yesterday glued to 92.3 hoping to learn more but there's not much info yet. These guys are the best of the best and if they got caught likely any crew in the the same situation would've been lost as well. So you know it was bad.

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    Seriously???!

    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    Anyone starting a fire or throwing a cigarette bud in a fire restricted area should be officially slapped.
    Slapped really is that kind of childish idiot comment going to bring back 19 dead men your a real F%N idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by missionbryan14 View Post
    Slapped really is that kind of childish idiot comment going to bring back 19 dead men your a real F%N idiot


    Classy.

    Nothing will bring those firemen back. The only reasonable way for me to honor their deaths is by enforcing rules set forth by fire department and forest service to reduce forest fires and and thus possibly save FUTURE lives.
    Ignoring fire restrictions is especially egregious now in the light of these recent deaths. Even if it was lightening that started that fire.

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    brutally rough time for the towns of prescott, pv & chino as well as the wildland fire community here in az and across the west. as an alumni of the mormon lake hotshots (who lost 3 in '76 on the battlement creek fire on the western slope) it is both gut-wrenching and bewildering that this happened... really hard to accept.

    several dads (3 with expecting wives, i believe), husbands and 19 sons. the company i now work for is out of chino and seemingly everyone in the town has close ties to at least a few of these guys. one of our superintendents coached one of the guys in football and baseball since he was old enough to play sports... just absolutely gut-wrenching.

    couple of things...

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Thus far it seems they got separated, lost radio contact with their command center, became surrounded by the fire, were seen by a helicopter, but others were unable to reach them.

    This from CBS 5
    Updates every 10-15 minutes ... Fire is currently at +2000 acres, and 250 homes lost.
    be very dubious, at best, of reports from mass media on the specifics of this incident. the forthcoming investigation will hammer out what went wrong but no one on that incident management team or investigation team is going to tell a CBS reporter any specifics until the investigation is done (they should be tight lipped anyhow). the facts will all eventually get out there but specifics right now will be via the rumor mill.

    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    These guys are the best of the best and if they got caught likely any crew in the the same situation would've been lost as well. So you know it was bad.
    this isnt the time nor the place to discuss in-depth, as the facts wont be out for awhile, but this is 100% untrue. ill be brief... the mistakes made will be poured over for years (decades) but the unfortunate facts are that major mistakes were made and compounded brutally by the weather. it is terribly wrong to assume that any crew in that situation would have made similar mistakes. this is why i mentioned that it is really, really hard to accept... doesnt make sense.

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    So you know how to handle this??

    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    Classy.

    Nothing will bring those firemen back. The only reasonable way for me to honor their deaths is by enforcing rules set forth by fire department and forest service to reduce forest fires and and thus possibly save FUTURE lives.
    Ignoring fire restrictions is especially egregious now in the light of these recent deaths. Even if it was lightening that started that fire.
    So if you are a serious friend of the forest and you want to enforce the laws why do you make comments like lets slap cigarrette throwers when slapping isnt a real punishment it isnt in any law books ANYWHERE and OH by the way I hear it was a lightning fire to begin with soo hmmmmm ME thinks your emotions be FALSE SIR

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    Quote Originally Posted by missionbryan14 View Post
    So if you are a serious friend of the forest and you want to enforce the laws why do you make comments like lets slap cigarrette throwers when slapping isnt a real punishment it isnt in any law books ANYWHERE and OH by the way I hear it was a lightning fire to begin with soo hmmmmm ME thinks your emotions be FALSE SIR
    I think you missed the point. I have no control over lightning. All I and we can do now is to try to prevent forest fires by means we control.

    I think you took the "slapping" way too literal. It was meant to by symbolic... like slapped with a fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    brutally rough time for the towns of prescott, pv & chino as well as the wildland fire community here in az and across the west. as an alumni of the mormon lake hotshots (who lost 3 in '76 on the battlement creek fire on the western slope) it is both gut-wrenching and bewildering that this happened... really hard to accept.

    several dads (3 with expecting wives, i believe), husbands and 19 sons. the company i now work for is out of chino and seemingly everyone in the town has close ties to at least a few of these guys. one of our superintendents coached one of the guys in football and baseball since he was old enough to play sports... just absolutely gut-wrenching.

    couple of things...



    be very dubious, at best, of reports from mass media on the specifics of this incident. the forthcoming investigation will hammer out what went wrong but no one on that incident management team or investigation team is going to tell a CBS reporter any specifics until the investigation is done (they should be tight lipped anyhow). the facts will all eventually get out there but specifics right now will be via the rumor mill.



    this isnt the time nor the place to discuss in-depth, as the facts wont be out for awhile, but this is 100% untrue. ill be brief... the mistakes made will be poured over for years (decades) but the unfortunate facts are that major mistakes were made and compounded brutally by the weather. it is terribly wrong to assume that any crew in that situation would have made similar mistakes. this is why i mentioned that it is really, really hard to accept... doesnt make sense.
    Nice post. Human element aside, some interesting thoughts on the role the weather played here. Wasatch Weather Weenies: Weather and the Yarnell Hill Fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    Nice post. Human element aside, some interesting thoughts on the role the weather played here. Wasatch Weather Weenies: Weather and the Yarnell Hill Fire
    Interesting insight into the weather changes at the time. Thanks for sharing

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    Slapped with a fine omg

    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    I think you missed the point. I have no control over lightning. All I and we can do now is to try to prevent forest fires by means we control.

    I think you took the "slapping" way too literal. It was meant to by symbolic... like slapped with a fine.
    So now you are using reasons that are not relevant to THIS fire at all and you are making way to light of the fact that 19 people died and even if it WAS a match fire I dont think a fine would be appropriate for 19 dead why dont u just say this is very tragic and sad we will mourn and miss them I pray for the families involved and God Bless them or good luck if u aint religious. Just stop making the situation smaller than it really is these are humans not plants.
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