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    Best Suspension Design for SoMo: Bling report and ride report

    Frame: Nishiki Manitoba
    Forks: 160mm chromo flex
    Rims: Solid gold
    Hubs: made from gold teeth from suckers who owed me $$
    Brake: Shimano center pull sweetness
    Rear derailleur: XT one speed
    Front derailleur: XO
    Tires: High Volume

    Riders in Phoenix know the importance of a sophisticated suspension design for the tough MTB trails we have here. Recently Ive been putting all the modern suspension designs to test in my search for the perfect all-mountain bike for South Mountain. I was initially sold on the small bump compliance of DW linked bikes, and the beautifully progressive rear wheel travel curve of VPP bikes. I almost pulled the trigger on one of these bikes last week when the folks at Bike Saviors in Tempe Suggested I give the early 90s Nishiki Manitoba a try.

    This bike absolutely slays the single track and devours all life within 10 feet of it when descending. Seriously, I passed a Cub Scout troop while descending National and all the kids combusted before my eyes! And climbing you ask? The complex yet simple rear linkage made me feel like I was pedaling 6 above the trail. I bunny hopped every trail runner that approached me and the bike was so confident on the widow maker that it stopped to mount a horse we encountered without breaking stride. And believe me The horse was satisfied!

    Give one a try. It does not disappoint.
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    Bob, I rode Holbert today for the first time and all the way downI was thinking " if I only had Nishiki Manitoba I could own this trail". I don't suppose you would consider selling yours would ya?

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    My God Bob , you might be on to something there , that thing looks very keen and capable of tackling any trail in Az.

    I would just move the ft brake to the right ( like its supposed to be ) and add a rear center pull
    brake on the left and off I would go ridding in perfect bliss

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    LOL!

    you did this for the rep points, admit it!

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    "Let our people travel light and free on their bicycles." Ed Abbey
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    Looks highly shredable.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    My God Bob , you might be on to something there , that thing looks very keen and capable of tackling any trail in Az.

    I would just move the ft brake to the right ( like its supposed to be ) and add a rear center pull
    brake on the left and off I would go ridding in perfect bliss
    Thanks Kelstr!
    I thought about the rear brake, but I was worried that the rear braking would limit the suspension performance. The Manitoba suspension has been criticized for this so I'm avoiding the issue by ditching the rear brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    LOL!

    you did this for the rep points, admit it!
    I refuse to answer on the grounds that it might incriminate me.

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    BBBWWAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


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    Lolz on that one, I cant believe when i first started mtb'ing i used to ride a full rigid bike...

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    I like the downhill gearing and the sticky rock ready maximum adhesion tires. The minimalist approach is very clean and performance oriented. sweeeeet!
    RAM speed: UP, UP, and away....!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhmental View Post
    Lolz on that one, I cant believe when i first started mtb'ing i used to ride a full rigid bike...
    damn my first ride also...
    What's that pushing 20-22 kgs?
    ...and you have the gas powered one!? Lucky!

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    Bobber

    Here's the direct competitor that came onto the scene in '93 and crushed Nishiki out of existance.

    Notice the advanced geometry and suspension design.

    This fine example has undergone extreme modifications

    Weight savings:
    Paint- removed
    Kore skewers- installed
    front brake- eliminated
    shifters- terminated
    derailleurs - eradicated
    chain- chain? this is a downhill mosheen...


    Performance:
    crazy radical front fork installed
    super trick low drag tires
    oversized flat pedals for improved terrain contact (really helps offset the lack of front brake)
    narrow clipped bars for improved trail clearance

    too many mods to list


    Sure, the Nishiki is (was) an Icon, but it absolutely pales in comparison to this performance oriented descending mosheen...

    For only $37,863.89 I can transform your Nishiki into something of similar capability but it will never be the real deal. (financing available)

    Check my pulse...

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    Not sure what you will use the bike for, but if you ever intend on riding off a curb I would keep a very close eye on the ControlTech stem. They like to fail.
    My bikes, Slayer 70 and Switch 2

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    On one of my early National Trail rides, about 14 years ago, my friend 'cleaned it' on a Body Glove bike.

    That bike got good air too: When he got really pissed at the thing he hurled it off one of the drops.

    By hurl, I mean he threw it over the edge....

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