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    Barn Burner

    I got a team together for the barn burner this year and it sounds like a fun event. For those of you who participated last year especially in teams is there any advice and anything you would do differently,( how do you know when your teammates are close)? Also and more importantly the party, we are planning to camp Friday and Saturday night on site, is there enough people and fun times to make it worth sticking around Saturday or does it pretty much empty out after the race. Thanks and good luck to everyone.
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    Did not do this last year, but the guys on my team did. They had fun, and we all plan on camping there fri/sat night. Looking forward to this!

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    Kris....If you guys beat us....please do not stick around. I don't want to hear about it.

    Terry, we will see you up there.

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    Definitly stick around after the ride. The "bike town" is what makes these events fun. If it where just the ride I would skip it, the course is not much fun to ride.

    I would also be interested in advice from those that do these type of relay event often, how do you time the exchange? Don't want to get there too early and sit around stiffening up and definitly don't want to get there late and loose time. Do some of you use 2-way radios, spotters or just guess at when the previous rider will return?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ_AlanS
    Definitly stick around after the ride. The "bike town" is what makes these events fun. If it where just the ride I would skip it, the course is not much fun to ride.

    I would also be interested in advice from those that do these type of relay event often, how do you time the exchange? Don't want to get there too early and sit around stiffening up and definitly don't want to get there late and loose time. Do some of you use 2-way radios, spotters or just guess at when the previous rider will return?
    For 24 hr races, when I've raced as a team, we'd usually just go down to transition tent around the time we expected the racer to arrive. This was based on previous lap times, racer's confidence level, etc. So obviously don't factor in mechanicals, etc.

    Might be a bit more difficult to estimate lap times since the laps for this race as so damn long , especially if you've never riddent the course before

    I've tried two-way radios in the past, and didn't really work for me. But that was when the standard radius was like 2 miles. I know now you can get ones that have a huge radius.
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    I've been thinking about a better way to do this too. The guys I am racing with did this last year and sounds like they estimated the arrival of the other rider. I am riding 4th for my team so I only have to deal with one exchange!

    Weather looks like overnight lows in the 40's! That's going to be a shock to the system for us desert dwellers!


    Whiskers.....I expect you to be crushing people with a full summer of p90x and riding under your belt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelg
    It appears that everyone already has their game face on Alan.

    Yeah Noel, appears that way. I can understand why, they don't want to get their @$$es handed to them by the old guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkm
    Whiskers.....I expect you to be crushing people with a full summer of p90x and riding under your belt!

    I eat lightning and crap thunder......bring it.

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    I guess the p90x has been working!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkm
    I guess the p90x has been working!!!!
    I am now a pedaling god.

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    Another question for you experienced relay racers, for the first rider, do you wear your cycling shoes and backpack for the run at the start or change shoes and throw your pack on when you get to your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ_AlanS
    Another question for you experienced relay racers, for the first rider, do you wear your cycling shoes and backpack for the run at the start or change shoes and throw your pack on when you get to your bike?
    you do the run with all your biking gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath
    I eat lightning and crap thunder......bring it.
    Ah... the truth is out about why you let me ride in front the other day. You said you were "messing with your gears". I thought you were talking about on the new bike, but it seems your were just being considerate. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ_AlanS
    Another question for you experienced relay racers, for the first rider, do you wear your cycling shoes and backpack for the run at the start or change shoes and throw your pack on when you get to your bike?
    Run? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Run? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So, you have seen me "attempt" to run before. It is quite a sight, that is why I asked the question about the shoes and pack. I hope that there are benches near the bike staging area so I can sit down for a while after "running".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ_AlanS
    So, you have seen me "attempt" to run before. It is quite a sight, that is why I asked the question about the shoes and pack. I hope that there are benches near the bike staging area so I can sit down for a while after "running".
    I've "casually" walked the last 4 relay races I've done. Note that 1) I didn't have a team relying on me, 2) I figured that if I'm riding 24 hours (or 100 miles in your case), what's a couple minutes going to matter? and 3) you feel like a stud when you fly by the runners who think they are bikers.

    In all seriousness, I've only seen a couple people actually wear their running shoes for the running portion. However, that was because there was actually a prize for the person to finish the run first.
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    Fortunately, my partner will be the one doing the first lap, thus, he can deal with the less-than-dignified run!



    Looking forward to this weekend! I'm actually trained, for a change!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis
    Fortunately, my darling partner will be the one doing the first lap, thus, he can deal with the less-than-dignified run!

    Since I will be arriving in the nick of time for the race start, and with ZERO sleep, I will also NOT be doing the running start. Or maybe I should? Get my lap over before I turn into a zombie. Hmmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBike'sBroken
    Since I will be arriving in the nick of time for the race start, and with ZERO sleep, I will also NOT be doing the running start. Or maybe I should? Get my lap over before I turn into a zombie. Hmmmm.....
    You made for a tasty rabbit stew last year. hehe It was fun chasing you. I say do lap two, so we can make it a tradition. Who needs sleep??? Of course, your first lap dude would have to be as fast as Reade, which, well.. is there anyone faster than Reade?

    I'll be camping with the usual clan the night before, possibly Meg-pie if I can talk her into coming with me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis
    You made for a tasty rabbit stew last year. hehe It was fun chasing you. I say do lap two, so we can make it a tradition. Who needs sleep??? Of course, your first lap dude would have to be as fast as Reade, which, well.. is there anyone faster than Reade?
    I'm not sure WHO is going first. It could be a dude, or it could be a dudette. I think our fastest guy is pretty damn fast. I think he will be going last, to make up for my non-fastness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBike'sBroken
    I'm not sure WHO is going first. It could be a dude, or it could be a dudette. I think our fastest guy is pretty damn fast. I think he will be going last, to make up for my non-fastness.
    Well you ARE slow... very... but we're talking about riding, not mental aptitude.

    Sure. You. Slow.
    NOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteKis
    Well you ARE slow... very... but we're talking about riding, not mental aptitude.

    Sure. You. Slow.
    NOT.
    Watch out, or I'll throw my Happy Meal again. You have been warned.
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    Just sayin......

    Skinny is gonna be pissed I posted this.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/USAZ0068

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath
    Just sayin......

    Skinny is gonna be pissed I posted this.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/USAZ0068
    I could care less, as I'll be holed up in a smelly cabin in Payson with 11 other drunks knee deep in my Fantasy Football draft why you guys slog through the mud!!!! So, the jopkes on you .
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    Hey.....there is a Thursday game this week....you're drafting after the season starts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath
    Hey.....there is a Thursday game this week....you're drafting after the season starts?
    Yes sir. What's nice is, Thursday players' stats count towards this week's games.
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    Well still curious of how the transitions will work I guess we will just wing it, I am still however thinking about the two way radios
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    I was talked into doing the anchor leg for a team that lost one of it's riders. Ty will be up there too rocking out some laps on a Jr team.

    As far as transitions go, the next rider just needs to be there about 10 minutes before the expected lap time of the ride coming in. Easy breezy!

    Looking forward to some great times and great weather! (Sorry, skinny-tire... it had to be done)
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    How is the cell phone service up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldskool
    How is the cell phone service up there?
    Maybe it depends on your carrier. I have Verizon, which is known for having pretty darn good coverage, but I only got a weak signal while standing on top of my Durango, on one foot, tippy-toes, arm stretched to the Gods, while chanting and alternately cussing. Smoke signals would have been less frustrating.

    But hey, that's just Verizon and my old phone. Maybe my crackberry will do me a solid?
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    Hey all, so has anyone here signed up for this solo? Or am I the only nutjob here?

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    Hindsight, I wish I had done solo. You are not crazy!

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    Terry, we will be up there around 3-4 ish......

    I will be in my black Wrangler...if you see us, stop by.

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    My buddy and I are both going solo. We'll see how it goes......will be in a white chevy pickup hopefully around 7 if anybody wants to say hello. Looking foward to an awesome ride!

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    There will be plenty of riders doing this solo. I'm doing solo singlespeed and a co-worker is doing solo geared. Each rider will have a colored band or bandanna ... that is how you will be able to tell who is in your clasification.

    Last year - 10.5 hours ... this year 9 hours hopefully but not sure I have the fitness for that. Kinda been a slacker the last couple of months.

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    I hijacked the wife's highlander, installed the roof rack and am loaded (not the drinking kind of loaded, the other kind, with the car) and am waiting for team mate, who HAD to work a half day to get here for the carpool. I expect to be on the road by 1-1:30PM the latest.

    Will look for ya when we get there.

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    Is the entire loop fire road? Is the climbing bad? I checked out the website and looked at some of the pics posted from last year, just wanted to get some others opinions.

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    Yep its all fire road two pretty decent climbs but not death climbs. Good luck to everyone headed up there we should have a fire and a couple tents if anyone wants to stop by.
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    Good luck to all racers tomorrow! I wish I was there too but the cycling gods decided otherwise...




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    BUCKLE UP, Baby!

    So? How'd everyone like the Barn Burner?

    I had a blast, for the second year in a row.
    Team GeoManGear prevailed and got our Big Buckle. We came in 4th overall against 16 co-ed teams, ALTHOUGH, that said, the top three teams were geared, and so far as we're aware, so were the rest of the co-ed teams, if not all. Correct me if you read this and you were co-ed SS. I got a 2:05, and 2:12. 19 cog was waaaaaaay wrong for a choice. Should of stuck with an 18.

    Loved having a susp fork this year, not to mention a bike that weighs less than my shoes, but next year the Single Speed is staying home, and I'm busting out the FSR. This race just isn't SS friendly. You blow-up way too much time spinning-out on all the downhills. Will be fun to see what time of time can be had with some yummy gearage!

    GREAT putting a face to some names from MTBR, and I hope everyone had as much fun as we did! Already looking forward to next year.
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    I was there and thought it was great! For me it was a spur of the moment decision to do it and I'm glad I did. My time was in no way good, i was just happy to finish. Had a little mechanical difficulty at first but ended up doing a lap on a teammates bike (a much nicer bike to boot!)

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    I had a great time too! especially spinning out on the rocky downhill! I had to at least use my Van 160 and 2.5 tires a little bit.

    My public goal was to finish two laps with no break down of body nor bike. I meet that goal. But ever so slightly bummed that CoyoteKis' beat me. My 2:09 with run and opening loop, and my 2:10 second lap just are not up to the juggernaut of kickass riding she unleashed on the course!

    Thanks for firing me up for my second lap with your spirit and unbridled joy, bestie!!
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    I had a great time, but learned I do not like 4 man teams. I was # 4 and waiting around all day was not much fun. I think I would do a duo team or if the fitness is there, solo. I did a 1:58 on my lap, and was happy to be under 2 hours.

    The second hill was tougher than I expected, but loved the DH part, that was good times!

    Good to run into CoyoteKis' as our team mates happened to stash their bikes next to each other for the start. Ran into Wiskers of Death right as I finished my lap, but did not connect again that night as I kinda laid low.

    Had fun, will do it again and props to you solo and duo riders. I kinda felt like I was cheating by doing just one lap!

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    Ive taken multiple showers and still feel dusty....i swear my contacts made a scratching noise every time I blinked on that course.

    Great event...I think I may leave a little gas in the tank for that second climb towards the end next year...i may have underestimated that thing.

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    Our team had a good weekend. 4th place in the 4 person division. As a team, we finished 8 minutes faster than last year. But, we still missed the podium by a few minutes. Oh well, maybe next year. It was a great time, and I'm looking forward to next year.
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    I got to meet a couple people up there, but didn't race this year...you guys got me into this crap now...it's on for next year.
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    Really fun course. First lap was pretty decent, second lap I realized that my rear derailleur wasn't working and I couldn't get into my bottom two cogs... the second hill on the second lap killed me (no idea if I was missing those for the first lap or if I hit a rock somewhere early on, although there wasn't much rock until mile 16).

    And WTF is up with the dude that did a lap in 1:35? That is crazy. Almost as crazy as wearing a pooh costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangedog
    And WTF is up with the dude that did a lap in 1:35? That is crazy. Almost as crazy as wearing a pooh costume.
    Last year a lap was done in 1:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianc
    I had a great time too! especially spinning out on the rocky downhill! I had to at least use my Van 160 and 2.5 tires a little bit.

    My public goal was to finish two laps with no break down of body nor bike. I meet that goal. But ever so slightly bummed that CoyoteKis' beat me. My 2:09 with run and opening loop, and my 2:10 second lap just are not up to the juggernaut of kickass riding she unleashed on the course!

    Thanks for firing me up for my second lap with your spirit and unbridled joy, bestie!!

    Brian, donít get too far away from your manliness. You may need it back one day.

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