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    Attempt at "Which tires" Question

    I have been searching the forums for a couple of weeks now. I did not really get a good answer, but with so many variables I did not expect it. I do, however, have some more experience on my present tires and if my observations make sense, maybe I can get some recommendations to think about? I ride SOMO mostly (Javelina, Mormon, National), also T100, Hawes, McDowell Mts. I am 150 lbs, I ride a Iron Horse Hollowpoint MK 3 with DW-Link that I like. Recently wore out Weirwolf tires, 2.35. I am running Weirwolfs, new ones, 2.1 size, and I have them at F/R 25psi/29psi, tubes. Now I am washing out constantly, front tire squirms, took off some skin on a curve that I would never have fallen on before. I am riding more aggressively now, but not at all racing level. Is it the new Weirwolfs, or the size change that may be causing my problems? They do not feel at all secure any more like the old ones. I want uphill traction, I am not very concerned about speed, but my speed on Desert Classic and McDowell Mt is causing me to gain scars. I don't do real DH, but I do like the downhills on Mormon and National, but I don't drop more than 1-2'. Help??
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    tire size. 2.35 is as small as I would go for where you ride. I like 2.5's better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble View Post
    I have been searching the forums for a couple of weeks now. I did not really get a good answer, but with so many variables I did not expect it. I do, however, have some more experience on my present tires and if my observations make sense, maybe I can get some recommendations to think about? I ride SOMO mostly (Javelina, Mormon, National), also T100, Hawes, McDowell Mts. I am 150 lbs, I ride a Iron Horse Hollowpoint MK 3 with DW-Link that I like. Recently wore out Weirwolf tires, 2.35. I am running Weirwolfs, new ones, 2.1 size, and I have them at F/R 25psi/29psi, tubes. Now I am washing out constantly, front tire squirms, took off some skin on a curve that I would never have fallen on before. I am riding more aggressively now, but not at all racing level. Is it the new Weirwolfs, or the size change that may be causing my problems? They do not feel at all secure any more like the old ones. I want uphill traction, I am not very concerned about speed, but my speed on Desert Classic and McDowell Mt is causing me to gain scars. I don't do real DH, but I do like the downhills on Mormon and National, but I don't drop more than 1-2'. Help??
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    Sounds about right, tmarkos. I wonder if anyone has experience with the Geax tires, or Maxxis? Or should I just stick with larger Weirwofls? I think the larger Weirwolfs are pretty heavy, now.
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    I am ambidextrous, but I lean heavily toward right-handed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble View Post
    Sounds about right, tmarkos. I wonder if anyone has experience with the Geax tires, or Maxxis? Or should I just stick with larger Weirwofls? I think the larger Weirwolfs are pretty heavy, now.
    I've been riding maxxis for the last 10 years. No plan to change.

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    I mostly ride the PMP area.

    2.4 PURGATORY GRID UST up front.

    2.3 ESKAR2 GRID UST out back.

    Great combo for me. Weight more than you. Ride a Specy Enduro tubeless.
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    tmarkos, which Maxxis? so many models!
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    Cycle64, thanks. The pattern here looks like mine go back and I get larger size.
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    Maxxis Ignitor 2.35 rear, Maxxis minion EXO front. I have yet to try a WTB or any other tire that stands up to the variety of our terrain (hawes ball bearings to SoMo chunk), as well as the Maxxis..

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    Sounds like the issue is the width. Rim width plays a part in how the tire will profile from edge to edge. I would measure your rim width at the inside of the beads (preferable if the tires are off-but outside is doable too) and compare that along with what tire size and style others recommend.

    Changing tire brand/tread pattern/volume/size etc also affects your suspenion settings too. You may want to play with that a little. I know it sounds hokey-but this is all taken from the motorcycle world where I learned a lot as a racing tire vendor a few years ago. Other factors to make your head spin is sidewall contruction/stiffness etc.

    My choice on every XC up to 4 inch bike I have ridden thus far is Maxxis Larsen TT, Ignitors (on front only for me) and High Rollers (especially on my old 29'r). I weigh anywhere from 140-155 over the years, ride pretty quick and technical, but am a "floater" and not a "basher" allowing me to run a 2.1 in the front and 2.0 in the rear without pinching or tearing on tubeless setups. If you can't tell- I kind of geek out on bike setup! Great setup can make a great rider awesome and overcome many of a bike or riders other shortcomings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble View Post
    Sounds about right, tmarkos. I wonder if anyone has experience with the Geax tires, or Maxxis? Or should I just stick with larger Weirwofls? I think the larger Weirwolfs are pretty heavy, now.
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    supermoto,
    So the minion EXO is more of an all-mountain than a DH? I have been looking at the Ignitor. What size up front?
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    cstem,

    Geeking out on setup is what I want. Thanks! See, that is what gets me. You like the Ignitor up front, supermoto likes it on the rear. (Don't go there ). There are so many combos I could try, just not so much $$ to do it with!! I think I am more of a floater, but I also need a lot of work on getting better, too. More riding!! I will check out the Larsen, and the High Roller already has a great rep!!
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    Panaracer Rampage 2.3 up front always for me. I love that tire! Knobby and solid. You can hardly kill it doing XC. I can put about 1500 miles on one tire. For the rear, Exiwolf/Wolverine have been fine, but I also liked the GEAX Saguaro and Specialized Fast Track - they looked pretty similar, but wore much faster than the Rampage - probably only 800 miles or so. They climbed just fine for me. SoMo is my home mountain, and where I ride the most.
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    I think the larger Weirwolfs are pretty heavy, now.
    I agree. But maybe that makes them safer?

    Try a 2.5 Maxxis Minion DHF EXO (60A durometer) up front, and a 2.35 Maxxis High Roller I in back. Maxxis tires are skinny(except for the Ardent), so don't worry about those big numbers.

    I've even seen recommendations to run two Minion DHF's. For where you ride, I would consider that. I'm in this camp:

    tire size. 2.35 is as small as I would go for where you ride. I like 2.5's better.

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    A 2.5 Maxxis is like a 2.3 Specialized. I have yet to find a Maxxis tire that is the actual size they claim.
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    Take all tire advice with a grain of salt. You have no idea if that person rides like you or has any idea what they're talking about. That said, I just started running Larsen 1.9 in the rear, switching over from Weirwolf 1.9. Been running Larsen 2.35 up front for a year, very good for me. For the record, the micrometer says the front is 2.29 and the rear is right around 1.80. So they are a little smaller than advertised. I ride a lot so I rarely pay over $30 for a tire. Buy some different ones on sale and try em out. Everyone I race motorcyles with loves Maxxis Desert IT's but I can't stand them on my bike. Don't know why, they just don't work for me. You never know til you try it for yourself.
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    Donrasti is right on there. Individual techinique is as big a factor as anything.
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    While it's true that tires are personal, I think you'll see a trend with riders on similar trails: Maxxis and/or Specialized. Personally, Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 Exo 3c on the front; either Ignitor LUST 2.35 or High Roller LUST 2.35 on the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    I mostly ride the PMP area.

    2.4 PURGATORY GRID UST up front.

    2.3 ESKAR2 GRID UST out back.

    Great combo for me. Weight more than you. Ride a Specy Enduro tubeless.
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    A 2.5 Maxxis is like a 2.3 Specialized. I have yet to find a Maxxis tire that is the actual size they claim.
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    I have to throw my $.02 in and suggest my current setup, selected for performance/cost/longevity. I run Kenda tires on all my bikes, main setup is a SB8 DH casing on back (2.35) with a Nexcavator up front (also 2.35). Hooks up amazingly well and the Nexcavator has saved me from more "oh crap" moments than I care to admit. FWIW, I got to try out the Weirwolf when the TCS casing was being released and I really liked it in the loose, gravelly stuff but it kinda suffered in the embedded rock sections. I think it's one of the best tires out there but not necessarily for our conditions here. Oh yeah, while my setup works great for me here in Phoenix it was downright scary in Flagstaff! Rear wheel needed something more aggressive (Excavators are my "Go To" tires for that)
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    Wow. This is all very helpful!! And I knew up front that different riding styles will get different results, but I kind of needed a place to start, and this is a great place to start! I am definitely ditching the 2.1's, as I did feel better with the 2.35, but I know things will change when I go to a new tire. I will be looking at sales for the next few days to pick up something new. Also, I want to go tubeless as I know I want to air my tires down, because that has worked well for me in the past. Just getting too many pinch flats with more aggressive riding. I think I may try some Maxxis tires, and look for some others on sale to try. Looks like a busy summer!
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    Lot's a great advice here. personally, I ride minion DHF on front and rear. They're a bit heavy but I don't ever flat and that's more important to me.

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    Another +1 for Minion DHF. I actually use it for a rear tire and it hooks up nicely in our conditions. I run a Speshy Butcher in front which is pretty much a replica of the DHF. Seems like lots of manufacturers have a twin for the DHF and I think there's good reason for that...it works.

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    So even though Maxxis says to use the DHR on rear, you all use the DHF on the rear also? And 2.5 front, 2.35 rear? This may be a setup I can start from and see how it works for me.
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    What is the difference between using the Minion DHF or the Highroller on the rear? Or is it just riding style/preference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble View Post
    What is the difference between using the Minion DHF or the Highroller on the rear? Or is it just riding style/preference?
    I think HR are a bit lighter. I doubt you would notice a difference in traction.

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    They seem to be the same weight from their web site, but the tread patterns are different between the DHF and DHR.
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    I accidentally mounted a High Roller backwards on the rear on my 29'r SS. It was slightly used as a front and it handled great until you trailbraked into flat granite turns. Then it would step out which was kind of cool-like backing it in on a supermoto- but only if you wanted it to/were ready for it! (Let me edit this before I get flamed for skidding-not locking up the tire at all, it would just step out in a little slide which still probably is not great for trails) Personally I did not like it on the front at all for my style of riding.
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    Just mounted two brand new DHF's on my DH bike...so stoked on new rubber...so stoked. I see a lot of tires and tire fails...My best bet is DHF #1, High Roller #2, Ardent #3, Nevegal/Nexcavator/excavator #4. Go tubeless as well...

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    cstem, sounds like fun. Just one more way to optimize the experience!
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    latedropbob, it is very interesting to me that the recommendations for an all-mountain tire is actually a downhill tire. I am also interested in the Ardent, and I still wonder with all the awards and recommendations, why the Nevegal comes up so few times in my searches, for our conditions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmarkos View Post
    I think HR are a bit lighter. I doubt you would notice a difference in traction.
    Going from Highrollers to DHF front and back, there is a noticeable difference in traction. The Highroller is great in a downhill setting if you really throw your bike into corners but don't try to take a corner half @$$ed because they wont- they like it all or nothing. If you ride a lot of off-camber stuff the highroller may not be for you. I've heard this has changed with the new HR 2. The DHF's are a phenomenal tire and offer great, even traction. The only downfall is that they are a little slow going uphill, but 2 seconds after you've pointed downhill and its all worth it. I ride them tubeless at around 18-20 psi.
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    I have two wheel set ups that I have used in all the locations you listed. One is a Trail King 2.4 both wheels on Flows. I have the back tire reversed for traction. Love them and this is my favorite wheel set. I also have Trail King 2.2's on both with Mavic 819's for my lighter trail/XC runs. I run the rear in the normal position for this one (although I will change it when I wear the tire out). I love the Trail Kings. I have done long XC, AM, and DH with the tires and am very happy. I run both sets tubeless with the UST Trail King tires and would never go back to tubes.

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    Interesting so many seem to like the Highroller. I thought it totally sucked on the loose shale at PMP.
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    Bob & Ken - which casing Kenda tires are you using? I've had extremely bad luck with single-ply Kendas. As in, I get about 3 rides out of them before slicing a sidewall. And their older tubeless casing used to separate when using sealant and was also unreliable for me. Are the newer casings more tolerant of mounting tubeless with sealant?

    I've had much better luck with Specialized tires. I've really been liking the 2.3" Clutch. It's a little slow rolling as a rear tire but great as a front. Haven't had one die prematurely yet. Planning to try the Butcher but still burning through my tire stash. The 2.2" Purgatory was OK as a rear tire when new but after the tread starts wearing a bit it started breaking free with no warning on high-speed braking in loose over hardpack.

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    Anybody try out the new Hutchinson Cobra? Supposed to be designed for dry conditions, comes in Tubeless ready and had "hardskin" puncture protection. Im wondering how this tire would work for a rear paired up with a DHF exo on the front for a good AM setup.

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    Hey I have tire question. I need tires for my 26" hardtail XC bike. I run tubes and wore down on old Hutchinson scorpion airlight . Tire worked, but wore the tread down. I put on some 10 year old IRC mythos XC. I had these stored up for years. Like the grip and the weight, but I have beebread ripping lugs off the rear like crazy. I have done about 45 miles and have ripped off 20% of the rear lug on toe rides. On here in north phx and another in flag yesterday. Now clearly some of this could be just tat the tires are old. However I can't replace tires every 50 miles. I was running 35 psi and I am only 155 lbs.

    My bike is light at 23lbs so I want to keep to 500-600g tire in 2.0 to maybe 2.2. My Hutchinson were 2.0 and the mythos ar 2.1. Kenda small block 8 maybe?
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    I've got a set of Schwalbe Nobby Nic takeoffs you might be interested in. 26x2.25, less than 600grams per tire. Send me a PM for details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkaz View Post
    Bob & Ken - which casing Kenda tires are you using? I've had extremely bad luck with single-ply Kendas. As in, I get about 3 rides out of them before slicing a sidewall. And their older tubeless casing used to separate when using sealant and was also unreliable for me. Are the newer casings more tolerant of mounting tubeless with sealant?

    I've had much better luck with Specialized tires. I've really been liking the 2.3" Clutch. It's a little slow rolling as a rear tire but great as a front. Haven't had one die prematurely yet. Planning to try the Butcher but still burning through my tire stash. The 2.2" Purgatory was OK as a rear tire when new but after the tread starts wearing a bit it started breaking free with no warning on high-speed braking in loose over hardpack.
    The Butcher is AWESOME and like all special ed tires, they measure to advertised size. I love the Purgatory 2.4 on the front for my AM. I've got Maxxis DHF and HRs on back-up with some use, if anyone wants to buy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douger-1 View Post
    Anybody try out the new Hutchinson Cobra? Supposed to be designed for dry conditions, comes in Tubeless ready and had "hardskin" puncture protection. Im wondering how this tire would work for a rear paired up with a DHF exo on the front for a good AM setup.

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    Have one on the back now for about 25 miles. Like the traction for climbing and cornering, but doesn't come close to advertised size.

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    Trail King 2.2 UST with Black Chili compound. Run tubeless. On Stan Flow rims until last month now on easton haven carbons.

    They are at least as big as my friends 2.35 nevgals. I have used these tires since the purchase of my bike in August (Mojo HD) and on my second set of tires. They have given me great traction on everything from Trail 100, National, Moab, BCT and Sedona. I like them better then my Captain Controls on my old bike. I really dont have alot of exprerience with other tires, but traction has never been a problem either in technical climbing or turns. and in 10 months of riding I have NEVER once had to stop on the trail for tire issues. They mounted easily onto the flows and havens (bike shop tried a set of the current non TRL protection TK and they had problems mounting them on the flow rims, so went back to UST) They like low pressures. I have sometimes wished I had some lighter true cross country tires for days that I am out on the BCT but I am afraid I will compromise traction or have tire problems on the trail. So I got a pair of used Carbon wheels and kept the heavy tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones2 View Post
    Trail King 2.2 UST with Black Chili compound. :
    I'm always looking for the next tire.

    I've searched but everything I've found states that Black Chili is only availble with the 2.4ust, not 2.2. Are you sure about the size of your tire?


    From Comp Cyclist website:
    The 2.4 version uses Black Chili rubber compound on the tread, with carbon black rubber sidewalls
    The Trail King UST 2.2 does NOT have Black Chili rubber on the tread and the APEX sidewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I'm always looking for the next tire.

    I've searched but everything I've found states that Black Chili is only availble with the 2.4ust, not 2.2. Are you sure about the size of your tire?


    From Comp Cyclist website:
    Yes, since about last August. It's on the box.

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    This has turned into a great thread! I am still trying to choose, maybe the Trail Kings or the Minions. Still wondering that many have the DHF on front and rear, but don't have the DHR on the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble View Post
    This has turned into a great thread! I am still trying to choose, maybe the Trail Kings or the Minions. Still wondering that many have the DHF on front and rear, but don't have the DHR on the rear.
    Needless to say the DHR wasn't the best tire. The DHR II has been released and the tread pattern has been totally re-worked. The complaint's I read about the DHR is that it was a little squirrely under heavy braking and didn't provide good traction when climbing.

    The DHF has been a great tire for me front and back. It has great traction all-around and is predictable.
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    woahey,
    Thanks for the clarification. That helps a lot.Then I am leaning toward trying the DHF front and rear. So many like it. I hope it is not too slow for XC and uphill, but really I am not racing, so slow is ok as long as I stop falling off the bike in sandy/hardpack sweeper turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones2 View Post
    Yes, since about last August. It's on the box.
    Just ordered a 2.2 ust TK. No idea if it's Black Chili or not, we'll see. It'll be for the rear so a little smaller is ok...I've heard it's "a large volume 2.2". I now see they list an ETRTO of 55mm, now I'm concerned it's too narrow.

    If you have nothing better to do with your evening and you happen to have digital calipers/micrometer could you take a measurement of the casing only and a measurement at the widest point of knob to knob?
    thanks

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    Got my TK 2.2 UST today. It is indeed a Black Chili. thanks.

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