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    Another Sedona post, I know, not again!

    It seems like there is a little bit of drama going on around the subject of riding in Sedona. It's a shame because it is such an amazing destination with some really fun, exciting and challenging trails.
    I will be out there this Friday, the 24th through the following Friday and will be doing at least 3-4 rides if anyone wants to join. I rode highline an hangover last time and loved them. Rode more designated trails the year before. Im always up fr something new and challenging if anyone has any suggestions. If not, I know enough to have a good time.

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    We're gettin some rain southwest of Sedona at the moment, with more forcast for the next couple of days. If you're gonna camp...bring a tent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62kona View Post
    It seems like there is a little bit of drama going on around the subject of riding in Sedona. It's a shame because it is such an amazing destination with some really fun, exciting and challenging trails.
    I will be out there this Friday, the 24th through the following Friday and will be doing at least 3-4 rides if anyone wants to join. I rode highline an hangover last time and loved them. Rode more designated trails the year before. Im always up fr something new and challenging if anyone has any suggestions. If not, I know enough to have a good time.
    kona:

    How good a rider are you, and how good are you at following directions? Did you have any issues with Hangover on the steep sections?

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    TD, regardless of the volunteer work you've done, you are a poor ambassador for Sedona. After reading these drama threads from 5k miles away and with no dog in the fight or ax (hoe?) to grind, I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. No longer. I suspect your many critics are spot on. Kona said he loved Hangover - period. What purpose is there in calling him out with such a rude post? Who the heck are YOU! Well I guess you've already answered that many times over: Narcissist, egomaniac, drama queen, king of trolls, pedant... If I had your wife's email address I'd recommend she hide the computer from you and start planning for the intervention. What ever good you've done for Sedona trail riding, you've negated many times over. Ignore button from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    TD, regardless of the volunteer work you've done, you are a poor ambassador for Sedona. After reading these drama threads from 5k miles away and with no dog in the fight or ax (hoe?) to grind, I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. No longer. I suspect your many critics are spot on. Kona said he loved Hangover - period. What purpose is there in calling him out with such a rude post? Who the heck are YOU! Well I guess you've already answered that many times over: Narcissist, egomaniac, drama queen, king of trolls, pedant... If I had your wife's email address I'd recommend she hide the computer from you and start planning for the intervention. What ever good you've done for Sedona trail riding, you've negated many times over. Ignore button from now on.
    Wow velo I am going to share the goods with a fellow rider and you think I am a dirt bag. The trail I was going to offer () is a lot more steep than Hangover, so I wanted to see if kona was comfortable with steep slickrock and routing on slickrock where there is no distinguishable trail.

    As you say I must be all those things you are accusing me of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Wow velo I am going to share the goods with a fellow rider and you think I am a dirt bag.
    As you say I must be all those things you are accusing me of.
    Right. You see veloborealis...traildoc is not a really bad fellow. He just does bad things!

    Because...just as a broken clock can be right twice a day, so can a Narcissist, egomaniac, drama queen, king of trolls, pedant retired old fart of a mountain biker occasionally direct a newb to a mountain bike trail.

    TD. These trails you are going to show 62kona. These are legal, authorized, sanctioned, FS permitted trails are they not? Wouldn't want to see him get arrested, kicked out of the forrest and fined a thousand bucks.

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    TD. These trails you are going to show 62kona. These are legal, authorized, sanctioned, FS permitted trails are they not?

    NOPE, he needs to go to Bike & Bean for those trails. I think they took a group down it recently, check out their facebook page


    Wouldn't want to see him get arrested, kicked out of the forest and fined a thousand bucks.

    I am more concerned he will get lost, but their is good cell service so he can call me for directions.

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    can we please just ban TD so we can have a discussion about sedona without the chest thumping?

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    If there were any moderation at all in this forum, he would've been banned years ago.

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    Remember we ran the mods off lol...Back in the day of unicorns, tummy sticks and meat rainbows
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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork View Post
    .Back in the day of unicorns, tummy sticks and meat rainbows
    Is that the name of 3 user built trails that only 70% of the 30%'rs can ride? Or just gay tourons in the motorcasa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork View Post
    Remember we ran the mods off lol...Back in the day of unicorns, tummy sticks and meat rainbows
    I still cringe at that one censored pic of the broken finger...I miss chuck's humor

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    BAN the MOFO!

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
    REALLY, TD STFU!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Is that the name of 3 user built trails that only 70% of the 30%'rs can ride? Or just gay tourons in the motorcasa?
    the later
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    Wow, that got out of hand quick! haha.
    Thanks TD, the trail in that video looks awesome. I handled the steep parts on hangover fine. I like steep and rough. I usually ride DH so thats my style.
    I'm pretty good with directions i guess, but if i have to constantly stop to read where to go next, i think it takes the fun out of the ride. If its really easy to get lost without checking for directions every 5 minutes, maybe it would be best if I rode that trail with someone who knows it. I know your out of town, so is there anyone else who likes riding that stuff who might want to go out next week. As long as it dries up soon.

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    And how do the trails in the area take heavy rain? Do they get beaten up and need a few days to dry out or they just get tacky and perfect? You guys usually ride right after rain?
    I know in my area, some trails are perfect after rain, others we stay off of for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    If there were any moderation at all in this forum, he would've been banned years ago.
    Amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 62kona View Post
    And how do the trails in the area take heavy rain? Do they get beaten up and need a few days to dry out or they just get tacky and perfect? You guys usually ride right after rain?
    I know in my area, some trails are perfect after rain, others we stay off of for a few days.
    kona:

    I hope you are enjoying the passion the AZ MTBR forum provides. Your post is the perfect example of how the sharing of great trails works. If I was in town I would show you what I consider to be the best ride in Sedona.

    There are others like helimech that ride the trail and share it with others, but heli is a responsible working man and doesn't always have the time to show others around.

    There are others that know the route and may PM you. Due to the steepness I would not recommend it in the rain unless you are in the Wade Simmons category of rider. That being said the best area shortly after a heavy rain period is West Sedona near the High School.

    Special Ed, Pyramid, Witch Doctor, Under the Radar, Templeton, Easy Breezy, Slim Shady, Highline and Baldwin are pretty much all weather trails.

    Good luck with your stay.

    TD

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    What traildoc said.

    And if you're gonna camp...bring a tent.

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    I'd rather read the tummy stick, meat rainbow, ginger docking and vuvuzala threads than anything by some really old guys from the great red north.

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    Yet, here your are, reading it anyway. Life is funny, aye single Speed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Amen.
    So do you want moderation or not? Or just when you snap your fingers? Because I'm telling you, we're getting extremely mixed messages from the AZ community.

    Nobody has yet done the work I specifically requested. To restate: provide links and explanations of what posting guidelines you feel are being violated, and we'll begin the review process for timeouts and/or bans.

    If your reaction to that is "duh, that's the moderator's job," well... you're wrong. It isn't. Maybe it's unclear what it is moderators do, but I can tell you that evaluating every post in every thread is not part of it.

    So once more: read the guidelines, provide links, explain your reasoning. PM me and/or David with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion_ View Post
    Yet, here your are, reading it anyway. Life is funny, aye single Speed?
    You must be one of the old guys. Hi old guy. Yep , I'm here, busted. Your irony meter is top shelf for your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B View Post
    So do you want moderation or not? Or just when you snap your fingers? Because I'm telling you, we're getting extremely mixed messages from the AZ community.

    Nobody has yet done the work I specifically requested. To restate: provide links and explanations of what posting guidelines you feel are being violated, and we'll begin the review process for timeouts and/or bans.

    If your reaction to that is "duh, that's the moderator's job," well... you're wrong. It isn't. Maybe it's unclear what it is moderators do, but I can tell you that evaluating every post in every thread is not part of it.

    So once more: read the guidelines, provide links, explain your reasoning. PM me and/or David with it.

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    Do not go and get your moderator panties in a bunch Paul. If you cannot see the disruption to the forum with all this Sedona crap. Not sure what to tell you. Does TD bait people in sure! That alone should be addressed with him. Little common sense is all that is needed by the moderators and users. TD is not going to stop and if I or anyone else stops responding to him. Someone else will step in, it is the nature of the beast. So you let these problems continue and tell more and more to ignore him. Explain to me how these Sedona threads look to the new member coming to the AZ forum for riding info. Is the goal to promote riding in AZ or have three threads a day started by TD about the same thing he posted the day before?

    You want specifics? Show me where in the rules it states. Users can bait others into debates simply to disrupt the forum for personal gratification?

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    7.) The message is posted as "flame-bait" and is posted to incite flames and insults.

    Apply it to which ever thread you want. I could find dozens.

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    A simple solution is to ignore what you don't want to read. Yah it's annoying but to each their own. This is the first TD/Sedona thread I've clicked on for months. I chose not to click on the other 983 threads.
    No Mods needed.

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    You can't ban someone because they're annoying you. Some of you can't wait until Traildoc posts something just so you can hit reply. It's really rather pathetic. Just leave the guy alone and don't repond to his posts. But you can't can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    You can't ban someone because they're annoying you. Some of you can't wait until Traildoc posts something just so you can hit reply. It's really rather pathetic. Just leave the guy alone and don't repond to his posts. But you can't can you?
    rock:

    It is amazing the amount of time several viewers spend on the AZ forum having discussions with me. I feel sorry for their kids if they are parents, I feel sorry for their wives if they are married, I fell sorry for their significant others whoever they are.

    My hope is that the new viewers can get through the useless posts and get the Intel of the great Sedona riding.

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    You are not a victim, Tim. You have options!

    1. Block/ignore users you don't want to read.
    2. Report specific infractions and ask for specific redress. This has already happened regarding various users, not necessarily just Traildoc, and the supermods and overlords are reviewing them now.

    General infractions and general redress ("I get sad when X posts, do something about it") are not going to get you anywhere. Name-calling and other direct intervention will probably get you banned, so I strongly advise ignoring/blocking folks who make you sad. If you're physically/emotionally incapable of ignoring/blocking people who make you sad, man up, do the work, and we'll do what we can.
    Don't be that guy! Read the forum guidelines.

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    I suggest the buddy system. Have someone who cares prevent you from clicking the TD posts.
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    Now THAT is a clicking buddy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B View Post
    You are not a victim, Tim. You have options!

    1. Block/ignore users you don't want to read.
    2. Report specific infractions and ask for specific redress. This has already happened regarding various users, not necessarily just Traildoc, and the supermods and overlords are reviewing them now.

    General infractions and general redress ("I get sad when X posts, do something about it") are not going to get you anywhere. Name-calling and other direct intervention will probably get you banned, so I strongly advise ignoring/blocking folks who make you sad. If you're physically/emotionally incapable of ignoring/blocking people who make you sad, man up, do the work, and we'll do what we can.
    Can you explain how rule seven does not apply too many of Traildoc's threads?

    I like your coy attempt to divert this as my physical and/or emotional issue. I am not sad and could really careless what TD does or how it looks on MTBR. I am simply making an argument since you called me out for saying Amen. If that upsets you well not much I can do about that now is there.

    I am done debating it with you online. Got something to say to me, PM me I'll be happy to listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    You can't ban someone because they're annoying you. Some of you can't wait until Traildoc posts something just so you can hit reply. It's really rather pathetic. Just leave the guy alone and don't repond to his posts. But you can't can you?
    Been there, tried that. If he's going to treat the MTBR masss as children, then he deserves the same. It's a calculated effort.

    Sorry, but he brought this on himself by not living the Golden Rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B View Post
    You are not a victim, Tim. You have options!

    1. Block/ignore users you don't want to read.
    2. Report specific infractions and ask for specific redress. This has already happened regarding various users, not necessarily just Traildoc, and the supermods and overlords are reviewing them now.

    General infractions and general redress ("I get sad when X posts, do something about it") are not going to get you anywhere. Name-calling and other direct intervention will probably get you banned, so I strongly advise ignoring/blocking folks who make you sad. If you're physically/emotionally incapable of ignoring/blocking people who make you sad, man up, do the work, and we'll do what we can.
    Why on earth would MTBR ever ban Traildoc? His borderline sociopathic posts drive on-line traffic. And MTBR makes money based on traffic. In fact, I'm starting to think that TD is on the payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpvet73 View Post
    Why on earth would MTBR ever ban Traildoc? His borderline sociopathic posts drive on-line traffic. And MTBR makes money based on traffic. In fact, I'm starting to think that TD is on the payroll.
    That is an extremely good point! He's in pretty tight with Francois the MTBR Ultralord. They were rogue trail builders together back in the day in the Bay area

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    I have actually given in and put TD on the ignore list awhile back. The noise is way more than anything mountain bike value-add (for me anyway). He knows exactly what he is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    That is an extremely good point! He's in pretty tight with Francois the MTBR Ultralord. They were rogue trail builders together back in the day in the Bay area
    Wait, isn't mt biking either not allowed or heavly restricted in the Bay area? Hhmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Can you explain how rule seven does not apply too many of Traildoc's threads?

    I like your coy attempt to divert this as my physical and/or emotional issue. I am not sad and could really careless what TD does or how it looks on MTBR. I am simply making an argument since you called me out for saying Amen. If that upsets you well not much I can do about that now is there.

    I am done debating it with you online. Got something to say to me, PM me I'll be happy to listen.
    good lord, you are awful.

    the guy (td) was trying to help someone looking for trail info. checks to see if the op was comfortable with the exposure/steepness in order to assess whether another trail would be a good choice. some velo******bag guy comes roaring to the rescue of someone not needing rescue and then you all come running with torches and ropes.

    pathetic... and funny. you know how it sounds for a grown man (im making a big assumption here) to cry for more moderation on the interwebs? embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B View Post
    You are not a victim, Tim. You have options!

    1. Block/ignore users you don't want to read.
    2. Report specific infractions and ask for specific redress. This has already happened regarding various users, not necessarily just Traildoc, and the supermods and overlords are reviewing them now.

    General infractions and general redress ("I get sad when X posts, do something about it") are not going to get you anywhere. Name-calling and other direct intervention will probably get you banned, so I strongly advise ignoring/blocking folks who make you sad. If you're physically/emotionally incapable of ignoring/blocking people who make you sad, man up, do the work, and we'll do what we can.
    Paul:

    I want to thank-you for clearing up the posting protocol. Let's hope some of the viewers take your suggestions to heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Paul:

    I want to thank-you for clearing up the posting protocol. Let's hope some of the viewers take your suggestions to heart.
    There you go again TD. FYI, we're not a dum as you think we is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    That is an extremely good point! He's in pretty tight with Francois the MTBR Ultralord. They were rogue trail builders together back in the day in the Bay area
    rockman:

    It is true Francois and I were friends the last time I broke bread with him. But it is not true that he and I ever worked on a rogue trail together. I believe I did possibly work with him on maintenance and re-route projects at Soquel Demo Forest. Lately I have joined in on several of the great barbecues he and his buddies put on after the Wednesday bike rides at Skeggs Point.

    He once told me that there were some people on MTBR that don't like me and if I wanted to increase my rep power it would be better to shorten my posts.

    We're heading to McCall tomorrow to check out the riding. Got any ideas of which trails to try out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    He once told me that ... if I wanted to increase my rep power it would be better to shorten my posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    good lord, you are awful.

    the guy (td) was trying to help someone looking for trail info. checks to see if the op was comfortable with the exposure/steepness in order to assess whether another trail would be a good choice. some velo******bag guy comes roaring to the rescue of someone not needing rescue and then you all come running with torches and ropes.

    pathetic... and funny. you know how it sounds for a grown man (im making a big assumption here) to cry for more moderation on the interwebs? embarrassing.
    HE:

    I was responding to Paul for calling me out for saying Amen to another users post. He asked if a person violates a rule let him know. I simply did that as Rule 7 applies to many of TD's posts plain and simple.

    For the record, I don't care if they moderate the forum or not. Just be consistent if with the hand slapping one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Can you explain how rule seven does not apply too many of Traildoc's threads?

    I like your coy attempt to divert this as my physical and/or emotional issue. I am not sad and could really careless what TD does or how it looks on MTBR. I am simply making an argument since you called me out for saying Amen. If that upsets you well not much I can do about that now is there.

    I am done debating it with you online. Got something to say to me, PM me I'll be happy to listen.
    Nothing coy about it, Tim. Link me to a specific post you feel specifically violates Rule 7. Do not point me to "many" of his threads. Point to a thread, make the argument that it's in violation and why, and I'll take it from there.

    The same applies to anyone who has a problem with another poster and cannot avoid the issue via blocking or exerting some willpower. If you have a problem, flag it and forget it.
    Don't be that guy! Read the forum guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    HE:

    I was responding to Paul for calling me out for saying Amen to another users post. He asked if a person violates a rule let him know. I simply did that as Rule 7 applies to many of TD's posts plain and simple.

    For the record, I don't care if they moderate the forum or not. Just be consistent if with the hand slapping one way or the other.
    trust me, i knew where your response was pointed. just commented on that as well as the general tone of an otherwise innocuous thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    velo******bag guy comes roaring to the rescue of someone not needing rescue and then you all come running with torches and ropes.
    You don't think TD's online persona had anything to do with that?

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. TD's like the boy who cried wolf. Many don take anything he post seriously any more unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Many don take anything he post seriously any more unfortunately.
    True!
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    What really needs to be determined is What happens to all the Porn where the actors are wearing the LIVESTRONG bracelets ? Will they get an asterisk ?

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    Hey that's me you're talking about.

    In retrospect, I agree with you. If you take him at his word, it appears TD was trying to be helpful to the OP and I jumped in on the mistaken assumption that he was calling the OP out about his skills. But I made those assumptions based on TD's past behavior on this forum and I question whether it's helpful to start out a "friendly" suggestion about a trail to ride by asking how a good a rider he is or whether he can follow directions.

    I would suggest such a subject be broached along the lines of, "If you liked Hangover, your might like trail A, B, or C." But we all have our own "style" I guess. As an "ambassador" for Sedona, TD has little or no grasp of diplomacy or the tone of his posts. His credibility also seems to be evaporating like a puddle on a redrock summer day.

    I plan to simply ignore him from now on, but I wouldn't want him banned. It's more fun to watch him self destruct. One last thought: Can you imagine spending one vacation day, let alone one's entire retirement, posting as relentlessly asTD does on this forum? What may have started as a way for TD to serve his "community" (a commendable notion) has turned into a form of public masturbation. Makes me want to gouge out my eyes, but yes I keep looking. I think I need to go ride my bike. VB

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    Hey that's me you're talking about.

    In retrospect, I agree with you. If you take him at his word, it appears TD was trying to be helpful to the OP and I jumped in on the mistaken assumption that he was calling the OP out about his skills.
    VB
    VB:

    It's nice to see you realize I provide a nice service to fellow advanced mountain bikers looking for Intel on the Sedona trail system. Unfortunately in Sedona the user built trail system is not signed, so navigating on our trails is confusing, if you don't have one of my comprehensive maps to help you out.

    I also provide numerous loop suggestions(EveryTrail Trips by johnf0246 - page 1 - order: creation date | EveryTrail) on Everytrail.com. Those loop suggestions have ride descriptions that also help riders determine if the ride fits their style of riding along with videos of the ride being reviewed.

    If being informative about Sedona riding is not what you consider ambassador like I am curious what would you call it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _dragon View Post
    Now THAT is a clicking buddy!!!
    Yeah, I would click that buddy.

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