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    120* Ouch

    Next week is going to hurt.

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    It's a dry heat tho so it's so much better.

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    This is the part of the year where my dad, who lives in Flagstaff, gets to make fun of me for living in Phoenix. I get to make fun of him at other times of the year but on balance I kinda think he wins overall...


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    It has to be dry to get that hot.

    I'm off the bike due to injury for a few more months so i won't be riding until the temps moderate again.

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    And to think I walked outside today, got blasted by the searing 80 degree temp and said "nope, I'll wait until tonight" Heat is my kryptonite. I was in Scottsdale last month when it was 104 and thought I was going to die. I can't imagine what 120 feels like.
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    I'm looking over at my indoor outdoor thermometer and it reads 107 at 2:15pm. This morning, several of us felt cold during the first few miles of our ride in the Phoenix Sonoran Preserve. I think it was 67 degrees. While not everyone gets up at 3:45am, and is on the trail by 5am, there are very few people who begin their rides at 3pm, when you hit the high for the day. The overnight lows will be much higher next week, but riding in the shade, before the sun comes up over the mountains, is fairly comfortable, even when it's in the upper 80's. Just find a way to get to bed between 8 and 9pm.
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    I'll admit, this part of the year is not my favorite. Like Boris mentioned, FIP at 5am isn't that awesome for most mortals.

    103-105 peak is actually fine by me. Morning rides are fine, night rides are doable.
    120 is gonna suck. I guess it's time to just ride it out with Dos Equis by the pool.
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    Awesome suggestion Boris. I really appreciate how you can find a way to enjoy our great sport even though it's so hot out during the day. In Sedona if we start our daily ride by 7:00 AM we can get a good 3 hour ride in. Fortunately the heart of the best trails is less than a mile away. Interesting how it happened that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchblade2 View Post
    Interesting how it happened that way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by life behind bars View Post
    Not really.
    Yes it really was, kind of like Divined Intervention. We are really looking forward to hotter weather. Yesterday we didn't run into one other rider. It makes for some awesome World Class riding.

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    Hey, don't forget about the MMP night ride this Saturday. It will cool off to about 110 by 7pm, right?
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    Is Schilling gonna invite us for a 4pm this Tues at Somo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by el poseur View Post
    Is Schilling gonna invite us for a 4pm this Tues at Somo?
    I prefer 3pm, but I have to work both Monday & Tuesday out on the tarmac. So that'll be fun!! I'm tempted to drop my afternoon work shift and go for a spin. I was a bit disappointed last year when my heat miser ride only topped out at 118º.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schillingsworth View Post
    I prefer 3pm, but I have to work both Monday & Tuesday out on the tarmac. So that'll be fun!! I'm tempted to drop my afternoon work shift and go for a spin. I was a bit disappointed last year when my heat miser ride only topped out at 118º.
    who's tarmac do you work on?

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    63° in Homer, AK right now...but coming back on Tuesday so that's going to suck.




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    Quote Originally Posted by madduck View Post
    who's tarmac do you work on?
    PT bag slinger for American.
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    37 degrees right now in Crested Butte ..... high of 71 today .... not going to ride today.... did Deer Creek yesterday .... Walrod Cutoff, 409, Strand the day before .... no rides until it is at least 38 degrees at 6:00 am.... : - )

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    Haha, I was playing softball till 10:30pm last night in Anchorage in shorts and t-shirt. Temps in 70s. Plenty of sun, but it was getting a bit low when I rode home with sunglasses...lol. We are even getting thunderstorms like monsoon season these weeks.

    I have to go to Texas next week though...a horrible horrible place...
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    after putting your helmet on,, just go in the bathroom and put your head under the shower for 30 seconds before heading out (bald ppl plz disregard)

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    Quote Originally Posted by schillingsworth View Post
    PT bag slinger for American.
    stay hydrated man. did that at DFW yrs ago, those ramps suck in the heat.

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    I might have to turn my AC on tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madduck View Post
    stay hydrated man. .
    And salty snacks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Why choose to live in Phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Why choose to live in Phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Where do you choose to live?
    Where it's not 120.

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    Back issues will probably keep me off the bike through the summer, but I actually don't mind summer riding. I try to start pedaling by 0530 when the temps are still tolerable and almost have the trail to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhairmike View Post
    after putting your helmet on,, just go in the bathroom and put your head under the shower for 30 seconds before heading out (bald ppl plz disregard)
    When I go out running in TX or OK in the summertime (when down there for work) I'll do things like bring an ice chest full of ice water and soak a t-shirt in there then pour the ice water all over me before I start, starting completely saturated and soaked, this after drinking a crap-load of water obviously on the way to the trailhead. It's not fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madduck View Post
    stay hydrated man. did that at DFW yrs ago, those ramps suck in the heat.
    I really don't mind it. This will be my 13th summer out on the tarmac. We're typically only outside for 30-45 minutes at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Why choose to live in Phoenix?
    I like that it's always prime ride season either here in the PHX or within a 2-3 hour drive 365 days a year. It's very easy to escape the heat if you want to. Personally, I don't really see what all the fuss is about re: 120 aside from it only ever getting that hot here in Phoenix twice since 1990. You'd think it was that hot for weeks on end when you hear some people complain about the heat. As long as I don't have to shovel or scrape it, it's all good. I just have to keep those pesky sunglasses clean. If you're happy where you live, then good on you. I love it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Why choose to live in Phoenix?
    Ask me that in October. No clue where you live but I'll put money on us having better weather than you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schillingsworth View Post
    I like that it's always prime ride season either here in the PHX or within a 2-3 hour drive 365 days a year. It's very easy to escape the heat if you want to. Personally, I don't really see what all the fuss is about re: 120 aside from it only ever getting that hot here in Phoenix twice since 1990. You'd think it was that hot for weeks on end when you hear some people complain about the heat. As long as I don't have to shovel or scrape it, it's all good. I just have to keep those pesky sunglasses clean. If you're happy where you live, then good on you. I love it here.
    Thanks. Was curious. Been to Scottsdale once in November (gorgeous weather) and once in August (brutal heat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by schillingsworth View Post
    I like that it's always prime ride season either here in the PHX or within a 2-3 hour drive 365 days a year.
    And it's exactly the same here in Alaska. 365 days a year.

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    Except right now it's like 75 degrees for 20hrs of sunlight
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    Quote Originally Posted by krel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    And it's exactly the same here in Alaska. 365 days a year.

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    Except right now it's like 75 degrees for 20hrs of sunlight
    ...and you are forced to ride a bicycle with a Glandular disorder.
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    120 degree day vs. 50 degree day


    On a 120 degree day at least I can go out on the bike at night or early morning and have a good time. On a 50 degree day I usually won't go outside at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    ===November thru April
    Suppose it depends on your tolerance for heat, and whether you'd rather shovel snow in the winter or hang out in the pool in the summer


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    Rode National today at 12:45 and it was all mine no one else on the trail. Bring it on as long as the humidity stays low that is.....

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    I work outside all day long. You just adapt and drink lots of fluids. We'll start at 430 and be done by noon.

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    Good turn out at the MMP night ride. It was a bit breezy but temp was tolerable even @ 5:30 pm when I took a little preride up to the top of the scenic route. Doubtful another 10 degrees would have stopped anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    ===November thru April
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    And it's exactly the same here in Alaska. 365 days a year.

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    Except right now it's like 75 degrees for 20hrs of sunlight
    That looks fun for like a day then I'd be looking for the brown pow to get after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    ===November thru April
    Or 9/16 - 6/14 for some of us, as long as the lows are in the 70's I'm stoked for morning rides. Even the 80's right now aren't actually that bad. If people can get used to the cold of MN and MI surely we can also adjust to the heat of AZ and NV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnar602 View Post
    surely we can also adjust to the heat of AZ and NV.
    We can and do, to a point. There are physiological changes that happen - for example, over time the capillaries in your skin grow closer to the surface for more efficient cooling when you live in a hot climate. (This also explains why people who live in Phoenix and go up to Flagstaff in the winter freeze their butts off.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMOLE View Post
    Good turn out at the MMP night ride. It was a bit breezy but temp was tolerable even @ 5:30 pm when I took a little preride up to the top of the scenic route. Doubtful another 10 degrees would have stopped anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Why choose to live in Phoenix?

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    I've lived in CA, MT, NV, UT, TN, PA and IL. Found things to love and hate about each state.

    AZ is honestly pretty awesome though. I generally like to deal with the heat better than bitter winters, but both can be tough. One difference though is that when I lived in Montana, for example (or many other winter states) and I was burned out, sick of the grey, overcast, cold, wind, snow, sleet, icy roads.... It was a multi-day drive or a plane ticket to get out of it and get a break.

    In AZ, when I'm burned out on the heat, Prescott is 2 hours, Flag and Sedona are 2.5-3 hours, Payson is 1.5 hours, Show Low is 3 hours, San Diego is 5 hours. Rocky Point Mexico is 3.5 hours.

    I ride my MTB and Dirt bike all year round here. In the summer, If I'm on the trail by 530-6am, I can get a couple hours in (85-95 degrees) without the glaring sun, very doable. Or, I can just load the bikes and head to any of the northern destinations I mentioned.

    SoMo in Phoenix, Sedona etc are generally considered world class riding. They are the subject of youtube vids and bike movies, suspension testing grounds for major manufacturers and mag articles etc for a reason. And that's not mentioning some of the incredible trail systems we have that are less publicly known.

    It's an easy transportation hub, and politically friendly to entrepreneurs like me (not to mention a fantastic gun culture for shooters like me). We have a lot of opportunity for our kids here too. Another thing that is rare, I've lived in the smallest towns in the country, as well as the largest cities. Phoenix is rare as a major metro in that you can pretty easily have a small town, rural feel, close to BLM and FS, trails, lakes etc, while being only 30-45 minutes from downtown and all the pleasantries that come with city life.

    It's a cool place and yes, it is a dry heat.

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    Disregard the above post.
    There are no good trails here.
    Phoenix is awful all year round. It's too hot in the summer and in the winter, there are too many snowbirds on the road to even get to a trail.


    You should 100% definitely stay in whatever state you live in and bask in your glory that you have it way better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARandomBiker View Post
    Disregard the above post.
    There are no good trails here.
    Phoenix is awful all year round. It's too hot in the summer and in the winter, there are too many snowbirds on the road to even get to a trail.


    You should 100% definitely stay in whatever state you live in and bask in your glory that you have it way better.

    Don't come here. You won't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARandomBiker View Post
    Disregard the above post.
    There are no good trails here.
    Phoenix is awful all year round. It's too hot in the summer and in the winter, there are too many snowbirds on the road to even get to a trail.


    You should 100% definitely stay in whatever state you live in and bask in your glory that you have it way better.

    Don't come here. You won't like it.
    Very true.

    I'll add that the kajillion miles of trails in the state suck and are boring. And the many miles of trails added each year are totally not worth riding. Don't even bring your bikepacking gear cause there is nowhere to explore here.

    arizona is just about the worst place in the world for a person who likes to be outside.

    but don't EVER ask me to live anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtownmtb View Post
    arizona is just about the worst place in the world for a person who likes to be outside.

    The hunting sucks. The hiking sucks. The skiing sucks. The fishing sucks. Everybody who lives here is an asshole. I hear New Jersey is great though, i'd give that a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krel View Post
    The hunting sucks. The hiking sucks. The skiing sucks. The fishing sucks. Everybody who lives here is an asshole. I hear New Jersey is great though, i'd give that a try.
    Yeah totally- stay away, it all sucks.

    Especially the hunting- there's nothing that survives the weather here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Next week is going to hurt.
    Last Tuesday the heat finally got to me. I walking around just after dark in the park with my daughter and began to feel nausea and very dizzy, almost to the point of losing consciousness. I got home just in time to dry heave. My pulse dropped well below 50 -- my normal resting rate is around 60 -- and I had a headache. The veins in my hands disappeared and pinching the skin on the back of my hands stayed molded in the shape of the pinch. Severe dehydration and I ought to know better.

    After a couple of weeks of heat my 60 year old body just couldn't take it anymore. I hadn't really cut back on my exposure to heat too much other than driving to work instead of bicycling. I was still walking at lunch time, and the cumulative stress was just too much. The last straw was probably a late afternoon cup of coffee that dehydrated me.

    The temperature when I suffered this bout of heat exhaustion was only around 107 but the park was a bit humid. Still, I got a bit behind on my fluid intake and went down hard.

    Be careful out there. On my ride this morning I saw a college runner suffering from similar symptoms even though the temperature was only 80 degrees. She was only about 1/4 mile from returning to the trailhead, but was bent over and weak. It looked like she was going to make it but she had just refused help from a couple of elderly hikers. Probably she'll be OK but now I'm wondering if I should be carrying extra water to give out ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hikerdave View Post
    Last Tuesday the heat finally got to me. I walking around just after dark in the park with my daughter and began to feel nausea and very dizzy, almost to the point of losing consciousness. I got home just in time to dry heave. My pulse dropped well below 50 -- my normal resting rate is around 60 -- and I had a headache. The veins in my hands disappeared and pinching the skin on the back of my hands stayed molded in the shape of the pinch. Severe dehydration and I ought to know better.

    After a couple of weeks of heat my 60 year old body just couldn't take it anymore. I hadn't really cut back on my exposure to heat too much other than driving to work instead of bicycling. I was still walking at lunch time, and the cumulative stress was just too much. The last straw was probably a late afternoon cup of coffee that dehydrated me.

    The temperature when I suffered this bout of heat exhaustion was only around 107 but the park was a bit humid. Still, I got a bit behind on my fluid intake and went down hard.

    Be careful out there. On my ride this morning I saw a college runner suffering from similar symptoms even though the temperature was only 80 degrees. She was only about 1/4 mile from returning to the trailhead, but was bent over and weak. It looked like she was going to make it but she had just refused help from a couple of elderly hikers. Probably she'll be OK but now I'm wondering if I should be carrying extra water to give out ...



    Heat related events are cumulative, each new event potentially being worse so you may want the extra hydration for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmj831 View Post
    it is a dry heat.
    Give it 2 weeks and that will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnar602 View Post
    That looks fun for like a day then I'd be looking for the brown pow to get after.
    Why would you even think about bikes in AK during the winter? Alaska has the best skiing in the world pretty much. That stuff is WAY more rad than riding bicycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaklabl View Post
    63° in Homer, AK right now...but coming back on Tuesday so that's going to suck.




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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    Why would you even think about bikes in AK during the winter? Alaska has the best skiing in the world pretty much. That stuff is WAY more rad than riding bicycles.
    Says the guy who has never ridden "the crust"....

    Plus, the skiing isn't as consistent as you might think. There are good days for sure, but warmer temperatures mean more rain than years past and warmer air screwing with the snowpack and avalanche danger that makes it off limits for days. So if you are human-powered, there are some good days, but it's not like every single day is magic. Too much marine influence with a lot of the snow. If you got a helicopter and unlimited Jet-A to burn, then sure, you can probably find something most of the time, but most of us don't have those available at a moment's notice or at our disposal.

    So mountain biking in the winter turns out to be far more consistent, doesn't need nearly as much snow, snow conditions can change more and still be decent, generally not dependent on avalanche conditions, etc. You can just grab your bike and go and many trails and routes open up in the winter that simply don't exist in the summer.

    Don't know what would be worse, the AZ heat or what I did yesterday in TX. Riding in 100 degrees, high humidity. There WAS tree cover for the most part, but that heat and humidity was sweltering in the middle of the day. The area had a lot of extremely short rocky technical climbs, which seemed to make everything worse because you could never get going fast enough for your sweat to cool you. I started having to take breaks every quarter to half mile. Glad I rode it, but damn. No one deserves that.

    Tomorrow we ride this:

    120* Ouch-g0053820.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARandomBiker View Post
    Disregard the above post.
    There are no good trails here.
    Phoenix is awful all year round. It's too hot in the summer and in the winter, there are too many snowbirds on the road to even get to a trail.


    You should 100% definitely stay in whatever state you live in and bask in your glory that you have it way better.

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