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    11/9 Cave Creek Cactus Classic (C4) sound-off

    Who's planning on attending this year? State your team name if you have one.
    I rode the course yesterday and Spur Cross has been groomed almost all the way to the top. The rocky sections seem chunkier because of the summer rains and the stream bed is pretty rough as well. CC Rec is in good shape (as usual) and the sand in the creek bed has been raked away some to make the crossing 1000% better. CCBA is that you? Anyway, thanks to all the volunteers that have put time and effort into making this year's race a great one. See everyone on the 9th!


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    I am tentative. I did this last year when it was the Cave Creek Bike Fest. Fun race.
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    This is a really good local event run by passionate mountain bikers.
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    A majority of the Nationwide/Veloworx team will be out there as these are the "home trails" for many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    A majority of the Nationwide/Veloworx team will be out there as these are the "home trails" for many of us.
    Thanks for the warning. I'm out...

    (Actually, I'll be in Hawaii that weekend.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    I'm out...
    An added incentive for people to register. Aloha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    An added incentive for people to register. Aloha.
    casual observer ??

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    I am plus or minus at the moment. My rear brake rotor is bent and rubbing slightly on the pad but if I bend if off the pad, the rear brake doesn't work very well. If I can get my bike fixed and riding normal, then Ill prob sign up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    This is a really good local event run by passionate mountain bikers.
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    A majority of the Nationwide/Veloworx team will be out there as these are the "home trails" for many of us.
    Thanks WoD for posting the link. I do know that the race will follow the same exact course as last year but we may be in for a slight change next year (fingers crossed)...the re-birth of Surrey Hill. Anyhow, the Cave Creek Bike Assoc (local IMBA Chapter) has taken over responsibility for the race from the Town of Cave Creek and they're really hoping for a good turnout to keep this thing going. In case anyone has not seen the new promotional artwork for the race, here it is:

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    Yeti- what size and style rotor do you need to get by? I have a few six bolt 160mm avids lying around-cheap as in come get it and it would be free.

    I am trying to do this one. I will be on my Vassago SS and doing it as a fitness check as I get ready for the MBAA series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    This is a really good local event run by passionate mountain bikers.
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    A majority of the Nationwide/Veloworx team will be out there as these are the "home trails" for many of us.
    Awesome! I'll be out there and, as always, trying to keep up with HB and the rest of the Nationwide team!! :-)
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    Can the course be riden anytime? I would like to out and check it out this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark194 View Post
    Can the course be riden anytime? I would like to out and check it out this weekend?
    Yes. Anytime, including at night. Here is the Strava segment of what could be the course. Begin and end at Flat Tire Bike Shop in downtown Cave Creek.

    Strava Segment | FTBS CCBF w/ Surrey

    Have fun, bring water and stuff for flats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomvader View Post
    Yes. Anytime, including at night. Here is the Strava segment of what could be the course. Begin and end at Flat Tire Bike Shop in downtown Cave Creek.

    Strava Segment | FTBS CCBF w/ Surrey

    Have fun, bring water and stuff for flats!
    Just remember that it is not identical to the actual race course as the parts in the town of cave creek are a little different. However it does cover all the important areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark194 View Post
    Can the course be riden anytime? I would like to out and check it out this weekend?
    Best bet is to do the shop ride on Sunday. There is usually a big enough turn out to split into groups based on how fast you want to go.

    It's easy to get lost on this loop your first time.

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    I am trying to do this one. I will be on my Vassago SS and doing it as a fitness check as I get ready for the MBAA series.
    CSTEM-

    Fully rigid? What gearing?

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    not sure if you all realize this but they have a "rock crusher" (clydsedale) category this year... 225 lbs +

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    not sure if you all realize this but they have a "rock crusher" (clydsedale) category this year... 200 lbs +
    Rock crusher is 225

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Rock crusher is 225
    oh sorry.. I assumed it was 200... oh well, I guess thats out for me... I would have to gain at least 25 lbs for that... and that ain't happening...

    seems right since I know a few 200 pounders that can really crank...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Rock crusher is 225
    do you work for Flat Tire ?

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    I'm just on the cusp of qualifying as a rockcrusher - maybe 10 pounds short. If I eat a McDonald's every day for lunch and dinner between now and the registration deadline, I can get my first podium win on November 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCTJ View Post
    I'm just on the cusp of qualifying as a rockcrusher - maybe 10 pounds short. If I eat a McDonald's every day for lunch and dinner between now and the registration deadline, I can get my first podium win on November 9.
    Yep, it's a know fact that "fat" riders are slow.

    Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfp23 View Post
    CSTEM-

    Fully rigid? What gearing?

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    Damn.. I'm down to 216#.... and real effing slow so no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    do you work for Flat Tire ?
    No. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    No. Why?
    I ask only because I know Kaolin and I have met some of the other workers there..... You seem to know a lot of the happenings of Cave Creek mountain biking, so this is why I ask...

    I do a lot of riding in the cave creek area and its nice to put a face with a name

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    do you work for Flat Tire ?
    No he doesn't, he's just a groupie. or is that a roadie?
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    No rolling a whole 80mm of squish and 32-20 or 19. Not sure on that yet. You?
    I pre-rode the course a month ago before they did all the trail maintenance and came to the conclusion that I needed some squish up front. I am gonna ride it again to make sure... CSTEM I think you could go 32/19. Local 50+ guy typically rides rides a 32/18. I am gonna run 33/19, its been magic lately- lol

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    Reading about this makes me miss it there even more. You guys have fun.

    If you're on the fence about this one, do yourself a HUGE favor and register. Now!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    No he doesn't, he's just a groupie. or is that a roadie?
    No...I just live in Cave Creek and hang out at the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    No...I just drive around Cave Creek asking strangers if they want their chained lubed.
    Sicko!
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    Do they have a cap on the amount of riders. These trails can only accommodate so many hundreds of riders.

    Tough one for the singlespeeders, as they gonna get blown initially on the flat/downhill parts only to catch up on the long climbs and get stuck behind riders in their grannys on those narrow trails.

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    11/9 Cave Creek Cactus Classic (C4) sound-off

    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    Do they have a cap on the amount of riders. These trails can only accommodate so many hundreds of riders.

    Tough one for the singlespeeders, as they gonna get blown initially on the flat/downhill parts only to catch up on the long climbs and get stuck behind riders in their grannys on those narrow trails.
    There's good news for you in that Spur Cross has been widened as a result of the new groom. Passing will easier once you hit trail.


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    I might do the 19t then. And I am not concerned with geared guys. I "smoked" a lot of them on the downhill sections before- the flats hurt a little though!
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    Ok I am in for this. Just need to sign up.
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    Changed my mind and signed up after all. I did have fun last year and figured what the hell.........I am IN!!

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    I rode this course last night... Bad time to ride since the sun was in my face for a good amount of the ride.... Also, the rains this past summer really, really chunked up the section between Spur cross and Go John.... damn...
    The variety of this course makes it hard to decide between a full suspension/hard tail....

    I was trying to time myself, but I got a flat... That kind of fouled things up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstem View Post
    I might do the 19t then. And I am not concerned with geared guys. I "smoked" a lot of them on the downhill sections before- the flats hurt a little though!
    I ride it 19t, the only reason I don't go 18t because of all the slower granny gear riders who beat me to the single track on the dirt road. I can't get the momentum I need, It makes for a very difficult ride up that long climb when everyone is spinning like a rabbit on crack. I think the course if fine, I like the chunky rocky trails, I just hate the sandy section towards the end, that's where I begin to cramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBeer View Post
    I ride it 19t, the only reason I don't go 18t because of all the slower granny gear riders who beat me to the single track on the dirt road. I can't get the momentum I need, It makes for a very difficult ride up that long climb when everyone is spinning like a rabbit on crack. I think the course if fine, I like the chunky rocky trails, I just hate the sandy section towards the end, that's where I begin to cramp.
    we all hate the kitty litter... that stuff should be outlawed on any race course

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    Okay I just signed up and was thinking about a preride this weekend. Looks like a fun event and will be my first MTB race. But does anybody know of a course map or turn by turn directions? The map that's linked to the registration site (MTB Project | Mountain Bike Trail Maps) doesn't have sufficient detail to keep from getting lost. Same for the Strava map that someone posted. Maybe I'm missing something or maybe the route will be easy to figure out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bituman View Post
    Okay I just signed up and was thinking about a preride this weekend. Looks like a fun event and will be my first MTB race. But does anybody know of a course map or turn by turn directions? The map that's linked to the registration site (MTB Project | Mountain Bike Trail Maps) doesn't have sufficient detail to keep from getting lost. Same for the Strava map that someone posted. Maybe I'm missing something or maybe the route will be easy to figure out?

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    Your best bet will be to do the Flat Tire Shop Ride on Sunday morning. I think it's at 8am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bituman View Post
    Okay I just signed up and was thinking about a preride this weekend. Looks like a fun event and will be my first MTB race. But does anybody know of a course map or turn by turn directions? The map that's linked to the registration site (MTB Project | Mountain Bike Trail Maps) doesn't have sufficient detail to keep from getting lost. Same for the Strava map that someone posted. Maybe I'm missing something or maybe the route will be easy to figure out?

    Bob
    The most of the course is easy to follow. The only part that gets tricky is bit after you leave cave creek park. The trail (slate I think) dumps you into a big wash. From there you cross and it becomes harder to follow as you cross the neighborhood. The good part is there no much complex riding from there on expect for sandy wash which is hard, but just sucky. At race time it is marked and easy to follow.
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    Anyone know the length and course for the kids race? My 7y/o is wanting to do it. I was going to enter SS but broke my arm this past Sunday so it's a no go for me.

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    The Kids Mountain Bike Race takes place on private property located approximately one block north of the start/finish line for the mountain bike race. The course is a short loop with some portions of desert single-track and open dirt with minor obstacles. We will have races for kids from 18 months to 14 in different age brackets and a special category for "kick bikes". Strider brand kick bikes will be available for use at the event at no cost.

    Each finisher will receive a hand-made ceramic medallion made by a local artist and a chance to win one of four bikes donated by REI.

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    AGE-------LAPS-- DISTANCE
    Kick Bike-- 1/4---- ~150 yards
    4-5 ------1----- .38
    6-8 ----- 2------- .7
    9-11-----4------ 1.5
    12-14-----6 ----- 2.2
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    So looks like less than a mile.
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    I pre rode it again last night... Its pretty tough to go all out for 24 miles... no pain, no gain...

    And I came across 10-15 night hawks in Spur cross... no exaggeration...

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    signed him up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    I pre rode it again last night... Its pretty tough to go all out for 24 miles... no pain, no gain...

    And I came across 10-15 night hawks in Spur cross... no exaggeration...

    You can do it. This was my first ever race when I did it last year and I had a great experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    You can do it. This was my first ever race when I did it last year and I had a great experience.
    yes, riding it the course is fun, but doing it for your best time is tough... my thighs were burning up at the final road climb

    but, hey I like it

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    What part of "Mtn bike RACE" is supposed to be easy! If it were easy everyone would do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath View Post
    Your best bet will be to do the Flat Tire Shop Ride on Sunday morning. I think it's at 8am.
    Excellent advice WOD and thank you. I drove up to CC today and visited Flat Tire. Great shop. Indeed they have a shop ride tomorrow morning and will be doing the race loop. They also have a very good and free map of the route they are passing out.

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    Re: 11/9 Cave Creek Cactus Classic (C4) sound-off

    Quote Originally Posted by Bituman View Post
    Excellent advice WOD and thank you. I drove up to CC today and visited Flat Tire. Great shop. Indeed they have a shop ride tomorrow morning and will be doing the race loop. They also have a very good and free map of the route they are passing out.

    Bob
    Ill probably be there at 7:00-7:15 tomorrow as well with a buddy of mine. We're B riders and know the course well as we've ridden it many times. Ill be on a f/s Giant with an orange/yellow helmet. Name is Mike.

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