Word is Salsa is developing another 29er offering for next year - I'm guessing it'll be a nice steel steed.

Word is Salsa is developing another 29er offering for next year - I'm guessing it'll be a nice steel steed.

That'd be great. We need more production steel 29"ers! Speaking of which, anyone heard anything from SOMA in the last few weeks?

I'd prefer a Scandium hardtail with Carbon stays

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Is projected to be released this summer. They are apparently just starting on production now. I can hardly wait - definitely one of my favorite companies.

Any info about the soma frame? Geometry, etc?

Is projected to be released this summer. They are apparently just starting on production now. I can hardly wait - definitely one of my favorite companies.

Mine too, I heard that a few ex-breezer people ended up there. My first nice bike was a breezer lightning, and man was that a sweet ride!

I'd prefer a Scandium hardtail with Carbon stays

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I could go either way, but the racer geek side of me likes your idea the best ;)

I could go either way, but the racer geek side of me likes your idea the best ;)


I third the idea of Scandium. Full hardtail. The only thing I don't like about the current Dos Niner is the fact that there is no pivot at the bottom bracket. I don't trust aluminum chain stays flexing with every impact. Aluminum simply can't take as many fatigue cycles as steel or titanium. Give me a hardtail so I don't have to worry. It will be lighter and easier to maintain.

I don't trust aluminum chain stays flexing with every impact. Aluminum simply can't take as many fatigue cycles as steel or titanium.
Ever check out what the wings are doing when your on an airplane? ;)

Ever check out what the wings are doing when your on an airplane? ;)

YEA!! lets start the frame material war!!


Planes, bikes, same thing right? :eek: :confused: :D ;)

FYI Planes have full body overhauls and replacements, frames do not.

A plane's single "ride" can also get longer than most of us ever put on a frame. :-)

I prefer using balsa wood in my planes....hmmmmm? I did see Calfee is making a bamboo frame. Bamboo trees sway very nicely in the breeze - much more that airplane wings ever could.

I have seen results of German (TUV?) studies , where the Alu road frames beat the Ultra light steel frames in cycles before breaking. Actually sveral of the frames did not break. Alu came a long way. I guess it comes down to the welder and heat treatments.

QUOTE=gregk]I third the idea of Scandium. Full hardtail. The only thing I don't like about the current Dos Niner is the fact that there is no pivot at the bottom bracket. I don't trust aluminum chain stays flexing with every impact. Aluminum simply can't take as many fatigue cycles as steel or titanium. Give me a hardtail so I don't have to worry. It will be lighter and easier to maintain.[/QUOTE]

Ever check out what the wings are doing when your on an airplane? ;)

BB/Chainstay failure doesn't quite worry me like a plane wing falling off...I'll take my chances with the pivotless bike.

-tom

www.salsacycles.com

I won't argue the properties of Scandium with you, but read the article on Salsa's site and you will be more at ease with the use of Scandium.

Besides Ibis/Castellano made the aluminum softail (I believe the ripley) several years ago. In fact Castellano is still making an aluminum softtail.

Get the Dos, have a dummy machined for it, save at least a quarter pound, at ride the Dos hardtail as harsh as you want it. I've seen it done, even with longer travel bikes.